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Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by Ikengawo: 7:24pm On Apr 06, 2015
Can anyone tell me which tribe has Obas that wear this regalia?


shirtless, heavily coral beaded


Dense Wrappa?



is it the Ooni of Ife?

Alaafin of Oyo



Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by Nobody: 7:25pm On Apr 06, 2015
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Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by Ikengawo: 7:27pm On Apr 06, 2015
Or is this more familiar



1. Distinct Bini Staff
2. white wrappa
3. coral necklace
4. coral bracelet
Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by abduljabbar4(m): 7:28pm On Apr 06, 2015
You didn't listen to the audio? His accent can tell you whether he is yoruba or not

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Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by Nobody: 7:30pm On Apr 06, 2015
Wow...we have been scammed o

So Lagos is even owned by Benin!!!!!


No wonder..... No wonder....


From the pic..it shows that the Oba of Lagos was a chief in Benin Kingdom ...sent by the Oba of Benin... Amazing

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Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by ozoigbondu: 7:32pm On Apr 06, 2015
So benin rules lagos....kai l don die cheesy

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Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by Ikengawo: 7:32pm On Apr 06, 2015
Whatever he speaks or has an accent of is up to him
the point is his own throne was created by the OUTSIDER Bini empire when it established Lagos (Eko - War Camp) as an outpost for their campaigns to conquer Yoruba kingdoms and Dahomey as sell captives as slaves to the portugese.




Why now will a decedent of the openness and detribalized nature of Lagos, who's own throne comes from east of yoruba land as well begin threatening others from supporting the man they want to support?

what's worst is the Oba of Lagos, who is in power because of Bini historical tradition, is condemning a Yoruba man that's actually a native of Lagos (Agbaje)

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Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by Ikengawo: 7:35pm On Apr 06, 2015
The Establishment of Lagos

According to the oral history of Lagos, at some point around 1300-1400 CE, the Oba (King) of the Benin Empire - who used to send trade expeditions to Ghana, where spices were traded - heard from one of his traders complaints about the way she was being treated by the Awori who lived in the area of current day Lagos. The Oba of Benin then sent a trade expedition by sea to engage with the Awori people, who nonetheless declined to engage and attacked the mission sent by Benin.

Upon hearing this as the mission returned to Benin City, the Oba of Benin commanded the assembling of a war expedition, led by Ado, a Benin Prince, which headed to the settlement of the Awori (current-day Lagos; then called Eko by the Benin people) and demanded an explanation.

On getting there, Ado and his army were more than well received - the Awori from Lagos asked Benin Prince Ado to stay there and become their leader. Ado agreed, on the condition that they surrendered their sovereignty to the Oba of Benin, to which the Awori people of Lagos agreed.

Upon hearing this, the Oba of Benin gave his permission for Prince Ado and the expedition to remain in Eko with the Awori. The Oba of Benin later sent some of his chiefs, including the Eletu Odibo, Obanikoro and others, to assist Ado in the running of Eko.


Lagos as a tributary to the Benin Empire

From the crowning of Ado as its first Oba, Lagos (then called Eko) served as a major center for slave-trade, from which then Oba of Benin Ado and all of his successors for over four centuries benefited - until 1841, when Oba Akitoye ascended to the throne of Lagos and tried to ban slave-trading.

Local merchants strongly opposed the intended move, and deposed and exiled the king, and installed Akitoye's brother Kosoko as Oba.[3]

At exile in Europe, Akitoye met with British authorities, who had banned slave-trading in 1807, and who therefore decided to support the deposed Oba to regain his throne. With the success of the British intervention, in 1851 Akitoye was reinstalled as Oba of Lagos. In practical terms, however, British influence over the kingdom had become absolute, and ten years later, in 1861, Lagos was formally annexed as a British colony.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Lagos#Lagos_as_a_tributary_to_the_Benin_Empire

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Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by crownprince102: 7:39pm On Apr 06, 2015
@Ikengawo ......; Yes, He is an Ijaw man from Otuoke and his mother is from Okrika. Mumu of our time.



Lagos is truly tributary to Benin Kingdom but Benin is also tributary to the Oyo Empire.



The whole of Yoruba land belongs to Oyo including Benin Kingdom and Dahomey in Benin Republic. That's why Benin kings are termed as "OBA"



Ilorin kings are termed as Emir because Kakanfo Afonja (Field marshal Afonja) who is the army commander betrayed the Oyo kingdom and colluded with Usman Dan Fodio to fight for the freedom of Ilorin and they were successful.



Ikengawo, if Benin kingdom is tributary to Oyo, does that make Oba of Benin an Oyo man? Please get cogent history and add common sense before posting historical thread like this next time.



Dahomey and Benin are tributary to Oyo kingdom and that doesn't make their kings a Yoruba man. Can you say because Nigeria was formerly under britain, all our leader including GEJ you almost died are Brits?




Rilwan is an islamic name while Akinolu is a pure Yoruba name, can you bring a benin man with the name Akinolu?



Though Lagos was tributary to Benin, the culture of Benin Kingdom have no influence in Lagos or have you ever seen Eyo festival celebrated in Benin?



Please note that only Isale Eko the place known as Lagos island today was tributary to Benin, the like of Abadagiri (which was rechristened by the whites to Badagry) was an not under Benin but was under Oyo kingdom ruled by Alaafin.

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Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by PhillyBrav0(f): 7:41pm On Apr 06, 2015
All dis online e-brat preparing to destroy d world with propaganda and lies! Cha! Where ar we going ? How do we get here

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Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by Nobody: 7:44pm On Apr 06, 2015
Binis originally own lagos..they ruled in lagos b4,setting out to seek a new settlement..i read this while in jss1 baq in d yester-years..

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Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by Crocz(m): 7:46pm On Apr 06, 2015
OmG shocked ...did Jona hit that drum?...no wonder he's dead politically!...he's invoke some nasty shi't upon himself


Chai!...Alaafin is a dangerous man!

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Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by collinspro(m): 7:51pm On Apr 06, 2015
He is a Nigerian so it doesn't matter. I detest his curse on the ibos

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Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by kay1one(m): 7:59pm On Apr 06, 2015
Obviously the benin empire ruled lagos at some point in time. Words like "osa" like in "osariemen" a benin word are from bini language. E.g eti-osa.

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Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by Nobody: 11:06pm On Apr 06, 2015
All this your mumu rantings doesn't change the fact that FFK a Yoruba bastard sucked, rocked nd bangggedd the wife of the moses of your Biafra.... Jus picture FFK on bianca with bianca moaning oooooo aaaaahhh uuusshhhhh eeeeeeeh urrrrrgh grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin FFK loves dogggggy style grin grin grin

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Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by Brimmie(m): 11:24pm On Apr 06, 2015
Kinfunfun22:
All this your mumu rantings doesn't change the fact that FFK a Yoruba bastard sucked, rocked nd bangggedd the wife of the moses of your Biafra.... Jus picture FFK on bianca with bianca moaning oooooo aaaaahhh uuusshhhhh eeeeeeeh urrrrrgh grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin FFK loves dogggggy style grin grin grin

grin grin grin grin

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Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by Ikengawo: 11:25pm On Apr 06, 2015
kay1one:
Obviously the benin empire ruled lagos at some point in time. Words like "osa" like in "osariemen" a benin word are from bini language. E.g eti-osa.

They founded Lagos as a city

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Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by raumdeuter: 11:25pm On Apr 06, 2015
Kinfunfun22:
All this your mumu rantings doesn't change the fact that FFK a Yoruba bastard sucked, rocked nd bangggedd the wife of the moses of your Biafra.... Jus picture FFK on bianca with bianca moaning oooooo aaaaahhh uuusshhhhh eeeeeeeh urrrrrgh grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin FFK loves dogggggy style grin grin grin

Nothing new there.

Yorubas have been fuckkingg Ibos since 1920

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Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by Nobody: 11:35pm On Apr 06, 2015
raumdeuter:


Nothing new there.

Yorubas have been fuckkingg Ibos since 1920

Yeah, that's true. But our bastard boinking the wife of their messiah is an epic one grin grin grin

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Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by CecyAdrian(f): 11:38pm On Apr 06, 2015
Benin originally own lagos and are still consulted till today in some traditional rites concerning lagos,so I won't be surprised if the Oba is not originally a yoruba man

Don't ask me how I know please.
Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by Nobody: 11:50pm On Apr 06, 2015
PhillyBrav0:
All dis online e-brat preparing to destroy d world with propaganda and lies! Cha! Where ar we going ? How do we get here
The abyss into whic internet cum propaganda wil plunge this country is beta immagined.
Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by meforyou1(m): 6:19pm On Apr 07, 2015
ozoigbondu:
So benin rules lagos....kai l don die cheesy
Seriously, Oba of Lagos is a subject of benin empire. Lagos was formally a benin kingdom military outpost

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Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by meforyou1(m): 6:19pm On Apr 07, 2015
CecyAdrian:
Benin originally own lagos and are still consulted till today in some traditional rites concerning lagos,so I won't be surprised if the Oba is not originally a yoruba man

Don't ask me how I know please.
What u said is common knowledge.
Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by Nobody: 7:10pm On Apr 07, 2015
crownprince102:
@Ikengawo ......; Yes, He is an Ijaw man from Otuoke and his mother is from Okrika. Mumu of our time.

Lagos is truly tributary to Benin Kingdom but Benin is also tributary to the Oyo Empire.

The whole of Yoruba land belongs to Oyo including Benin Kingdom and Dahomey in Benin Republic. That's why Benin kings are termed as "OBA"


Dahomey and Benin are tributary to Oyo kingdom and that doesn't make their kings a Yoruba man. Can you say because Nigeria was formerly under britain, all our leader including GEJ you almost died are Brits?


Nah. I think your knowledge of history is flawed. There's no empire that was more powerful in the south (as far as history is concerned) as that of the Empire of Benin, "land of the Obas". Many yoruba lands were tributaries to the Benin Empire. Oyo empire, though not as powerful as Benin, had influence in some of the yoruba lands. Benin Empire did held sway in alot of yoruba lands.

As a matter of fact, the Title "Oba" meaning Ruler in Bini, is bestowed on the rulers of Bini lands. And the Obas of Benin, bestowed it on rulers of "conquered" lands, similar to the way the title "emir" / "sarki" is bestowed by the hausas/fulanis on ruler "conquered" lands, Kwara is an example. Some yoruba kings claimed the title of "Oba" to show allegiance to the powerful Benin empire. The title of "oba' which till this day is being used by many Yoruba rulers is still a living testament to the strong influence and tentacles of Benin Empire in that region, Secondly the country of Benin Republic itself is another one.

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Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by dunkem21(m): 7:16pm On Apr 07, 2015
I won't delve into the origin and determination of Obas because of the heated argument and tensed environment.

All I can say for now, is that there is a huge connection between the Oba of Benin and Oba of Lagos.

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Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by Nobody: 7:19pm On Apr 07, 2015
dunkem21:
I won't delve into the origin and determination of Obas because of the heated argument and tensed environment.

All I can say for now, is that there is a huge connection between the Oba of Benin and Oba of Lagos.


Thats an undisputable fact!
Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by Ikengawo: 7:20pm On Apr 07, 2015
Maple:


Nah. I think your knowledge of history is flawed. There's no empire that was more powerful in the south (as far as history is concerned) as that of the Empire of Benin, "land of the Obas". Many yoruba lands were tributaries to the Benin Empire. Oyo empire, though not as powerful as Benin, had influence in some of the yoruba lands. Benin Empire did held sway in alot of yoruba lands.

As a matter of fact, the Title "Oba" meaning Ruler in Bini, is bestowed on the rulers of Bini lands. And the Obas of Benin, bestowed it on rulers of "conquered" lands, similar to the way the title "emir" / "sarki" is bestowed by the hausas/fulanis on "conquered" lands, Kwara is an example. Some yoruba kings claimed the title of "Oba" to show allegiance to the powerful Benin empire. The title of "oba' which till this day is being used by many Yoruba rulers is still a living testament to the strong influence and tentacles of Benin Empire in that region, Secondly the country of Benin Republic itself is another one.



exactly. No real Yoruba Monarch is an 'Oba'. only Bini installed ones. Alaafin, Ooni etc are all authentic and bare the names of the paramount ruler of their respective kingdoms, where as if you see the name 'Oba' it's strictly Bini.

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Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by dunkem21(m): 7:26pm On Apr 07, 2015
Maple:


Thats an undisputable fact!

Believe me, if I break down the history, this forum will burn tonight.

I wont add to the already charged atmosphere.
Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by bogzyboy(m): 7:59pm On Apr 07, 2015
raumdeuter:


Nothing new there.

Yorubas have been fuckkingg Ibos since 1920

I fvcked on in the asss last nite grin
Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by christopher123(m): 8:03pm On Apr 07, 2015
crownprince102:
@Ikengawo ......; Yes, He is an Ijaw man from Otuoke and his mother is from Okrika. Mumu of our time.



Lagos is truly tributary to Benin Kingdom but Benin is also tributary to the Oyo Empire.



The whole of Yoruba land belongs to Oyo including Benin Kingdom and Dahomey in Benin Republic. That's why Benin kings are termed as "OBA"



Ilorin kings are termed as Emir because Kakanfo Afonja (Field marshal Afonja) who is the army commander betrayed the Oyo kingdom and colluded with Usman Dan Fodio to fight for the freedom of Ilorin and they were successful.



Ikengawo, if Benin kingdom is tributary to Oyo, does that make Oba of Benin an Oyo man? Please get cogent history and add common sense before posting historical thread like this next time.



Dahomey and Benin are tributary to Oyo kingdom and that doesn't make their kings a Yoruba man. Can you say because Nigeria was formerly under britain, all our leader including GEJ you almost died are Brits?




Rilwan is an islamic name while Akinolu is a pure Yoruba name, can you bring a benin man with the name Akinolu?



Though Lagos was tributary to Benin, the culture of Benin Kingdom have no influence in Lagos or have you ever seen Eyo festival celebrated in Benin?



Please note that only Isale Eko the place known as Lagos island today was tributary to Benin, the like of Abadagiri (which was rechristened by the whites to Badagry) was an not under Benin but was under Oyo kingdom ruled by Alaafin.

Revisionist ..is it oyo empire that women from dahomey crumble or is it the one that fulani took over

Yoruba wars are cowardice filled
Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by crownprince102: 9:18pm On Apr 07, 2015
Maple:


Nah. I think your knowledge of history is flawed. There's no empire that was more powerful in the south (as far as history is concerned) as that of the Empire of Benin, "land of the Obas". Many yoruba lands were tributaries to the Benin Empire. Oyo empire, though not as powerful as Benin, had influence in some of the yoruba lands. Benin Empire did held sway in alot of yoruba lands.

As a matter of fact, the Title "Oba" meaning Ruler in Bini, is bestowed on the rulers of Bini lands. And the Obas of Benin, bestowed it on rulers of "conquered" lands, similar to the way the title "emir" / "sarki" is bestowed by the hausas/fulanis on ruler "conquered" lands, Kwara is an example. Some yoruba kings claimed the title of "Oba" to show allegiance to the powerful Benin empire. The title of "oba' which till this day is being used by many Yoruba rulers is still a living testament to the strong influence and tentacles of Benin Empire in that region, Secondly the country of Benin Republic itself is another one.

I guess you are the one with flawed knowledge in history. Let me educate your ignorance.


King "Oduduwa" was the first Ooni of Ile Ife (i.e the first king of ife kingdom), he bears only one child named "Okanbi". "Okanbi" was gave birth to 7 seven children who all became King in seperate part of Yoruba land such Egba, Oyo, etc.


The last born of Okanbi's 7 children was named Oranmiyan or Oranyan. Oranmiyan was the founder and first king of Oyo empire. Oranmiyan gave birth to several children among which was Eweka.



Oba Eweka was the first king of Benin kingdom. He was sent by his father Oranmiyan to the land which mean Yorubas directly owns the entire Benin kingdon from the onset. An Oyo prince was the first king of Benin kingdom.



Oba Eweka got to Benin empire and rejected the title of "Ogiso" which literarily mean "ruler" in benin language. He said he will be referred to as "Oba" which mean "King" in Yoruba land and that was how the term "OBA" became a title for Benin king till date.




Though Benin grows stronger under several kings after Eweka, it wasn't able to conquer Oyo. Some Yoruba land was truly tributary to benin but not so many. The size of Oyo kingdom was three times of Benin. Though Oyo sometimes fell to the Nupes, it rise again and conquered the Nupe knowns as Tapa by Yorubas.



When Oyo grow much stronger, they tried to overthrow Benin but failed several time for two and half century. Though they failed to conquer Benin but some parts of Benin kingdom such as "Ewe" and "Aja" paid tribute to Oyo kingdom.



We are in the world of internet, please do more research and know more about this history. Oyo is superior to Benin because Oyo owns Benin.

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