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Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by crownprince102: 9:38pm On Apr 07, 2015
christopher123:


Revisionist ..is it oyo empire that women from dahomey crumble or is it the one that fulani took over

Yoruba wars are cowardice filled
Dahomey women crumbles Oyo? You historical knowledge is low. Dahomey was under Oyo kingdoem for several years and pays tribute to Oyo



Dahomey truly has women army is the 17th century but they fight alongside with men.The Dahomey women’s army had three main wings: the right and left wings, and the elite center wing or Fanti.
Each of these wings had five subgroups: the artillery women, the elephant huntresses, the musket-bearing frontline group, the razor women, and the archers.
They served in battles in conjunction with male troops.




By 1748, after the Dahomey Kingdom had been subdued by the Oyo Empire, King Gezo restored Dahomey independence by defeating the Mahi nation, an ally of Oyo. Dahomey never attack Oyo but rather an ally of Oyo, Mahi nation.




Truly Nupe not Fulani overtook Oyo kingdom due to political instablity but Oyo regained it dignity when a new king was installed and it overtook the entire Nupe kingdom.



Oyo was the strongest Kingdom and one of the biggest in ancient west africa.

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Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by manikspears: 12:43pm On Jul 12, 2017
who all of una help............mitchewwwww.....
Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by tomakint: 12:56pm On Jul 12, 2017
History reloaded I love this ......

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Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by feelgoodInc: 1:46pm On Jul 12, 2017
but the fact still remains, LAGOS IS NOT YORUBA LAND.
hahahaha they'll love this.
watch:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8rUJyt4l88
Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by feelgoodInc: 1:54pm On Jul 12, 2017
grin grin grin
Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by intervention3(m): 2:58pm On Jul 12, 2017
all these guys will just b opening dumb trend..does this change the fact that Lagos is located in south west?...as long as Lagos remain in south west.. all these threads re useless.

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Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by feelgoodInc: 11:53pm On Jul 12, 2017
history is not on your side
Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by feelgoodInc: 11:53pm On Jul 12, 2017
true
Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by OPCNAIRALAND: 12:10am On Jul 13, 2017
COUNTDOWN
How many days to October 1st sef?

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Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by totit: 12:18am On Jul 13, 2017



GREAT BENIN ORIGIN OF ONITSHA


BENIN ROOT OF ONITSHA

  Many of our traditional titles are the same with the Edos/Binis: Onicha titles like “Iyasele” is “Iyasere” in Bini; “Ogene Onira” is “Oliha” in Benin; “Odu Osodi” is “Osodin” in Benin; “Omodi Daike” in Onitsha is “Edaiken” in Benin; “Esagba” in Onitsha is “Esogban” in Benin; the “Isama” titles are the same in both towns amongst many others. The “Obi” of modern Onitsha today is the continuation of the ancient Pharonic dynasty of ancient Kemet or Egypt. Onitsha must retrace the history of her monarchs from his imperial Majesty Obi Achebe back to the Ogiso Kings of Igodomigodo in Edo, then to Egypt; to Pharoah Tutankhamon, Pharoah Amenemhet, Pharoah Amenemes, Pharoah Amenkhuti Ra; Pharoah Khafara, and back to the first dynasty in Egypt. Enough of this tracing of our kingship to just Obi Oreze or his father Ohime(corrupted to “Chima”) by his later descendants. Onicha people came from Benin or Edo land, they were also in Igbo land. I suspect that the Priests of Nri were distantly connected, that is why till date an Nri King upon consecration must bring certain sacrifial items to the Obi of Onicha and must sleep over in Onicha before assuming the Nri throne. Why would the very traditional Nri people who were(and still are) known all over the Igbo land as a holy people and the spiritual custodian of all Igbo lands, accord these rights to Onicha Kings? All these indicate that Onicha and many other tribes had had prior interactions and established certain traditional precedence which had been ongoing before the Onicha town was founded just around 700 hundred years ago. No Nri man would just concede to subject his divine King to some unknown immigrants who just crossed over from the Niger River, if that were to be the case.

authoritatively portray the following facts that the Ikelike people from the Bini kingdom were the first to settle in Ogwashi-Uku (see Ben Nwabua, Ogwash-uku Kingdom, 1000 Years of Traditional Democracy and Cultural Life, 950-1914). Both traditional and empirical sources gives credence that Ikelike people were the first set of immigrants to settle in the present Ogwashi-Uku as against the notion that Adaigbo who purportedly came from Nri in present Anambra State today is the founder of Ogwashi-Uku. So far, no counter claim has been made on this. According to Ogwashi-Uku intelligence report by Mr. J.E Hull, the then Assistant District Officer dated on the 9th of April 1936, the Ikelike people from all indications migrated from Benin to settle where they are found themselves today, because of a reign of wanton persecution of subjects by the then Benin Monarch, Oba Eweka 11. The story further goes that at the head was Odigie Ikelike with his younger brother Ado who later founded Adonta, a relatively small village close to Azungwu in Ogwashi-uku today.

The Ikelike migrants were said to be politically averse and could not, therefore evolve an orderly method of governance even though there were small in number. Jull`s report further went on to point out that because of such indisposition towards an effective means of governing themselves, it cost them the political leadership they were first to settle in. Rather, Adaigbo, the prince from Nri later came, controlled the situation and imposed leadership based on Igbo customs and tradition on them and what later became Ogwshi-Uku kingdom. Adaigbo’s imposed of republican system, however, later gave way to the hereditary system of the Benins . BENIN EMIGRATION OR EXODUS: The migration of Onicha people from Benin happened in phases over many years and did not happen once. The Ohime/Obi Ezechima’s exodus was one of the last ones that occurred but it should be noted that not all Onicha people left with Obi Eze Chima or Ohime. Some stayed back and are still in Benin today. Some took a different migrationary route towards Ile Ife and Ado Ekiti. Some went to establish Ondo. Some made a northern migrational journey towards the north to establish the Igala Kingdom.The Attah of Igala and a substantial part of the Igala kingdom were Onicha people who immigrated into Igala from Benin. The first Attah of Igala was a Prince of the Edo/Benin Kingdom. Now it can be understood why the Onicha people were ferried across the Niger and greatly assisted by their Igala kinsmen when they reached the banks of the Niger river. It can also be understood why Onicha people easily incorporated many Igala rituals and traditions into their own concepts. They were of the same roots but different branches. Onicha people left Benin to establish Igala; that was the secret behind the easy adoption of and exchange of different tenets amongst Onicha and Igala people. Some Onicha people, before Eze Chima’s exodus, had left Benin to establish other towns like Issele Ukwu, Ebu, Kwale, Ezzi, Onicha-Ukwu, Okpanam, Asaba(originally called “Araba”) and some other towns of Benin orientation that had been established before the Ezechima’s exodus from Benin.. It was these settlements that habored Obi Ohime/Ezechima when he and his family fled from Benin. The migration from Benin to Onicha Mmili took many years, towns of Onicha-Olona and Onicha-Ugbo were established by Onicha people who felt reluctant to continue and follow Obi Ohime to Onicha-mmili. ESTABLISHMENT OF ONICHA-MMILI AND HER RULING DYNASTY: Obi Ohime or Eze Chima, having been told that he could not enter Onicha, stayed for a long time in Obio with his family and relatives before he died. After he died, his relatives decided to continue with their migration to establish Onicha. The qualification for whom shall be crowned king was conditioned upon who shall sound ancient rhythms on a wooden Ufie. Traditionally, Ufie cannot be owned or be sounded/beaten by a person whose father is still alive. The contestants to the throne having just lost their father, had no ufie, however, Oreze Obi, had carved one which he hid under the boat and sounded first upon getting to Onicha whilst his siblings were busy looking for the appropriate wood to cut for the Ufie.


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Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by feelgoodInc: 12:36am On Jul 13, 2017
so after they lost kwarra they want to claim our Lagos? No way. Oduduwa Republic should not include Lagos, it is an abomination.
Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by Flashh: 12:47am On Jul 13, 2017
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Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by feelgoodInc: 7:16am On Jul 13, 2017
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Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by feelgoodInc: 7:32am On Jul 13, 2017
Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by columbus007(m): 8:02am On Jul 13, 2017
kay1one:
Obviously the benin empire ruled lagos at some point in time. Words like "osa" like in "osariemen" a benin word are from bini language. E.g eti-osa.
+ osayemi+iyayi, e.t.c smiley
Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by columbus007(m): 8:09am On Jul 13, 2017
crownprince102:

I guess you are the one with flawed knowledge in history. Let me educate your ignorance.


King "Oduduwa" was the first Ooni of Ile Ife (i.e the first king of ife kingdom), he bears only one child named "Okanbi". "Okanbi" was gave birth to 7 seven children who all became King in seperate part of Yoruba land such Egba, Oyo, etc.


The last born of Okanbi's 7 children was named Oranmiyan or Oranyan. Oranmiyan was the founder and first king of Oyo empire. Oranmiyan gave birth to several children among which was Eweka.



Oba Eweka was the first king of Benin kingdom. He was sent by his father Oranmiyan to the land which mean Yorubas directly owns the entire Benin kingdon from the onset. An Oyo prince was the first king of Benin kingdom.



Oba Eweka got to Benin empire and rejected the title of "Ogiso" which literarily mean "ruler" in benin language. He said he will be referred to as "Oba" which mean "King" in Yoruba land and that was how the term "OBA" became a title for Benin king till date.




Though Benin grows stronger under several kings after Eweka, it wasn't able to conquer Oyo. Some Yoruba land was truly tributary to benin but not so many. The size of Oyo kingdom was three times of Benin. Though Oyo sometimes fell to the Nupes, it rise again and conquered the Nupe knowns as Tapa by Yorubas.



When Oyo grow much stronger, they tried to overthrow Benin but failed several time for two and half century. Though they failed to conquer Benin but some parts of Benin kingdom such as "Ewe" and "Aja" paid tribute to Oyo kingdom.



We are in the world of internet, please do more research and know more about this history. Oyo is superior to Benin because Oyo owns Benin.
100% thrash,stop turning history upside down, no one climbs the ladder downward.
Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by Basic123: 8:19am On Jul 13, 2017
columbus007:
100% thrash,stop turning history upside down, no one climbs the ladder downward.
You cant just call it trash like that.Only mumus will take that from you.Post your own history and let people determine which one is trash themselves.


To me,if lagos belong to benin,then nigeria and USA still belong to britain.

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Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by columbus007(m): 9:02am On Jul 13, 2017
Basic123:
You cant just call it trash like that.Only mumus will take that from you.Post your own history and let people determine which one is trash themselves.


To me,if lagos belong to benin,then nigeria and USA still belong to britain.
your previous post was way too misleading,it has already been known to us how it started,u don't just come and re-write,i'am among those who has refused to be brainwashed.
Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by Basic123: 9:25am On Jul 13, 2017
columbus007:
your previous post was way too misleading,it has already been known to us how it started,u don't just come and re-write,i'am among those who has refused to be brainwashed.

You cant just call it trash like that.Only mumus will
take that from you.Post your own history and let
people determine which one is trash themselves.



To me,if lagos belong to benin,then nigeria and USA
still belong to britain.
Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by Atigba: 10:02am On Jul 13, 2017
ozoigbondu:
So benin rules lagos....kai l don die cheesy

This is not news

Even the lagos state government attest to this fact
Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by Basic123: 11:04am On Jul 13, 2017
Atigba:


This is not news

Even the lagos state government attest to this fact
yes,like Britain once ruled igboland.
Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by feelgoodInc: 3:22pm On Jul 13, 2017
Basic123:
yes,like Britain once ruled igboland.
how does Britain ruling igbo land concern Benin ruling Yoruba land haha
Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by Basic123: 3:29pm On Jul 13, 2017
feelgoodInc:

how does Britain ruling igbo land concern Benin ruling Yoruba land haha

use your brain,you will know.

lemme help you,the fact that britain once rule igboland in history doesnt mean igboland is briton

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Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by feelgoodInc: 3:35pm On Jul 13, 2017
Basic123:


use your brain,you will know.

lemme help you,the fact that britain once rule igboland in history doesnt mean igboland is briton
hahahaha you had to go so low to compare britain, a whole Britain to bini kingdom hahahah as if Britain did not colonize the whole Nigeria.
Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by Basic123: 6:54am On Jul 14, 2017
feelgoodInc:

hahahaha you had to go so low to compare britain, a whole Britain to bini kingdom hahahah as if Britain did not colonize the whole Nigeria.

your are such a Slow poke that you cant even make sense out of a simple analogy.



British colonize the whole nigeria,does that make Nigerians british in this 21st century?
Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by feelgoodInc: 7:53am On Jul 14, 2017
Basic123:


your are such a Slow poke that you cant even make sense out of a simple analogy.



British colonize the whole nigeria,does that make Nigerians british in this 21st century?

so you mean Benin colonized you.... very funny, there's a difference between being conquered in war and peaceful colonization
Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by Basic123: 7:59am On Jul 14, 2017
feelgoodInc:


so you mean Benin colonized you.... very funny, there's a difference between being conquered in war and peaceful colonization

ok they colonized and conquered us.Are you now happy.


Let one benin man go to eko and start speaking edo language to the oba of lagos.

Even several parts of yorubaland have conquered one and other in the past,e.g Egba under oyo empire,does that mean egba is oyo land in the 21st century?


use your brain.

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Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by feelgoodInc: 10:00am On Jul 15, 2017
yes sir ride on
Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by feelgoodInc: 10:10am On Jul 15, 2017
kwarra was also taken
Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by chiagozien(m): 10:12am On Jul 15, 2017
what of the oba in prison,is he yoruba?
Re: Oba Of Lagos Is Not Even Yoruba by chiagozien(m): 10:18am On Jul 15, 2017
what of the oba in prison,is he yoruba?

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