Contact all the NAPES polytechnic student around you and the latest let meet and form a way forward in NAIRALAND.

Infact we are going to give government one last chance. If they fail to make to meet to the demands of polytechnics and polytechnic graduates, we will mobolize all poly graduates and poly staff to carryout a national demonstration and campaign for the closure of all polytechnics in nigeria. We will no longer need polytechnics again; let everybody go to university and get any degree he/she wants. Why should polytechnics exist in nigeria when they are of no significance??

ALL we are saying no more POLY

Is it true that a HND student with Distinction or Upper credt can go 4 masters directly¿ i heard some fed. Polys now issue Btech in some courses & they go 4 housemanship, is it? Wat re d names of those schls.

Is it true that a HND student with Distinction or Upper credt can go 4 masters directly¿ i heard some fed. Polys now issue Btech in some courses & they go 4 housemanship, is it? Wat re d names of those schls.

Is it true that a HND student with Distinction or Upper credt can go 4 masters directly¿ i heard some fed. Polys now issue Btech in some courses & they go 4 housemanship, is it? Wat re d names of those schls. Are some state polys involved

Is it true that a HND student with Distinction or Upper credt can go 4 masters directly¿ i heard some fed. Polys now issue Btech in some courses & they go 4 housemanship, is it? Wat re d names of those schls. Are some state polys involved?

Is it true that a HND student with Distinction or Upper credit can go 4 masters directly¿

There are types of masters degree , Professional and academic

You can go for Professional Masters direct with any HND
eg
MBA,MMP,MPP, MSW,MCA MILR, Msc Finace or Msc . Also known as Terminal Masters it is for both HND and Degree holders.

Academic maters allow you to do PhD you must scored above 60% to do that in your masters.

So for HND to do academicmasters he must cross to academicwith PGD.
So a BSC with 3rd class will do PGD again if you want to cross from Education you must do PGD.
Again if you want to go to Education you must Do PGD E In education.

i heard some  fed. Polys now issue Btech in some courses & they go 4 housemanship, is it? What re d names of those schls. Are some state polys involved?

Yes they do that with understanding with some university. Yaba tech, Kadunapoly may be some state poly, but I will post the facts later.
What do you mean by "they go 4 housemanship"

Both HND and Bsc will go for the engineering SIWES and SITSIE page 9 section 2.3e of the Government white paper of Octomber 2005.

ishmael:

Hnd-holder, when will polytechnics start running Msc and MTech programs in nigeria??

Kaduna Poly has started something. Not untill the laws are changed. Some Universities may be for advance studies only, as we are looking at it.
I do not think there is any need to start something that will not be accepted.
Let us go to the available university with our HND. Some poly already had the PGD and Phnd.
Regards

Its Msc and MTech we want, and not PGD or Post-HND.

We shall get there.

Hnd-holder:

We shall get there.

when?? I'm almost getting tired of waiting.

Those that trained me in 1988 are all retired now. Those that started this equality of HND with BSc in 1976 are now above 70 years old. So to change policy is not always easy. But let fight on brother one day will be one Day it may be you or me.

OK oo!! But wetin government and national assembly dey talk now??

But why cant our Government encourage Nigerians to go for Technical and Technological education?? Everybody cannot go to university, it's not possible. That is why we have so many unproductive university graduates roaming about the streets today, where as they would have been useful to themselves and the society if they had acquired Technical and Technological education. All blame goes to the Government of Nigeria.

I was under seuns suspection, I just got my freedom. What Technical people get is simpathy. Let us see the graduates coming out of university to learn a trade bring up the needed technological man power.

Hnd-holder:

I was under seuns suspection, I just got my freedom. What Technical people get is simpathy. Let us see the graduates coming out of university to learn a trade bring up the needed technological man power.

Why did Seun suspend you?? What crime did you commit?? you are welcome back sha. So how far with HND graduates, polytechnics, ASUP, NBTE and all that has to do with Technical education?? Any progress?? What is the way forward now??

We are planing to meet them at portharcourt on 29 of this month you are invited. All of them will be there with OBJ. It is our AGM.

what issues are guy going to address there??

Consolidation of tertiary institutions in Nigeria, problems and Prospects to be disscused by Oby Ezekwesili and Nuru yakubu.

you people should not allow them to take away yabatech and kadpoly from NBTE; and HND should be regarded as the same level with Bsc. Polytechnics should be empowered to run MSc and MTech programs.

Yes o but yaba and KAD poly are now NUC property.

Govt scraps HNDs, merges polys with varsities
From Madu Onuorah, Abuja
THE Federal Executive Council (FEC) yesterday approved a comprehensive reform of Nigeria's tertiary education system, scrapping the award of the Higher National Diploma (HND) by the nation's polytechnics.

In effect, the award of the HND will be limited to only the students currently admitted for the programmes.

Also, all the programmes currently being run by the polytechnics, which are not technology-based, and which are about 70 per cent, will be scrapped.

Under the new rule, the polytechnics will now become campuses of the proximate universities with the Vice Chancellors of those universities appointing provosts for the polytechnics, subject to the ratification of the Universities Councils.

The polytechnics will now be limited to award of the National Diploma (ND) while those desirous of further education will be awarded the Bachelor of Technology (B. Tech) by the proximate university.

To kick-start the new policy, the nation's two most prominent polytechnics - Yaba College of Technology and Kaduna Polytechnic - will henceforth be known as City University of Technology, Yaba and City University of Technology, Kaduna.

And to give legal teeth to these approvals, the FEC approved the submission of two Executive bills to the National Assembly for enactment into law.

With education being on the concurrent list, the states may wish to consolidate their tertiary institutions. But if they do not wish to follow the federal example, their programmes will continue to be regulated by the relevant agencies of the Federal Ministry of Education.

The first bill will concretise the setting up of the two city universities while the second will approve the preparation and consolidation of all federal polytechnics and colleges of education as campuses of proximate universities.

The Ministry of Justice will do the preparation and submission of the two bills to the National Assembly.

Minister of Education, Mrs. Obiageli Ezekwesili, told journalists after the weekly meeting of the council that under the reform measures, her ministry would, however, continue to licence private polytechnics and colleges of education for the award of qualification at ND and National Certificate in Education (NCE) levels.

She said: "There will be no more award of HND. After we have exhausted the current students under the programme, there will be no more award of HND. This means that there will be no fresh admission for HND programmes. And in addition, any programme that is not technical will be out of the polytechnics. About 70 per cent of polytechnic graduates are in the non-technical courses. It is going to be a rigorous implementation programme."

A ministerial committee to ensure the smooth implementation of all that is required for the take-off of the reform initiatives is to begin work immediately.

Ezekwesili said: "The HND certificate will remain a legal tender in Nigeria and holders of such certificate will continue to be recognised as the equivalent of first degree holders without discriminatory remunerations and limit to progression in the work place. The NCE certificate will be retained as the minimum teaching qualification at the basic level of education. Any higher qualifications by these private or state-owned polytechnics will be only affiliation with a university. So, HND is no longer in existence, but existing HND will be respected and considered legal tender."

The council also approved the Federal Government's formal take-over of the Waziri Umaru Polytechnic, Birnin Kebbi, which will be the College of Technology campus of the Othman Dan Fodio University, Sokoto, as well as the Hussein Adamu Polytechnic, Kazaure, Bauchi, which will be a College of Technology of the proximate university in the state.

Also, the Alvan Ikoku College of Education, Owerri, Imo State, has been taken over as a campus of the Federal University of Technology, Owerri. A state that had never had any federal institution, like Bayelsa, is to have a College of Technology as a campus of the College of Technology of the University of Port Harcourt. Also, Bali, in Taraba State, is to have a college of technology as a campus of the proximate university.

Guardian 15 march 2007

Thank God HND is equivalent to Bsc. Chikena!!

Chikena abi.

yes o, the unsettled case[b] Bsc Vs HND [/b] has been settled.

We now know that the case will move to professional level of COREN as ICAN never discriminate.
COREN should put his house in order Now.
as things became critical when Engr. Inuwa became president of COREN and used
his influence with the Government, he was able to complete the process of
amending Decree 55 of 1970. Thus Degree 27 of 1992 finally rename HND as
as Engineering Technologist with abbreviation Engn.Tech which Britain used for their Technician. This abriviation without stamp of office made our members refuse to register.
NATE was involved in the amendment. COREN, agreed to
Technological Engineers in fact NATE suggested COREN'S new name "Council for
Regulation of Engineering in Nigeria (COREN) as a way to meet the desire of
the HND holders. Several other issues were yet unresolved before they rushed into change of decree to nail HND as Technologists.
the amendment of the decree which we claimed we were not satisfy with. NATE
has always opposed the designation as Engineering Technologist but for
separation of Identity Technological Engineers was prefered.