haibe:
how is he promoting sin please

If I work in a condom industry, I will b promoting sin as well.. coz I m producing things dat ALWAYS lead pple to go against God's will....

haibe:


I will not eat because the bible condemns gluttony

Thank you.

Kanyol:
Working in an alcohol producing company doesn't make u a drinker. Even if you drink, it's not a sin before God, provided you don't get drunk.
After all, Paul advised Timothy to add a little shepe in his system so as to carry on his ministry
I no dey forget that bible verse

1 Timothy 5:23

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If the company produces alcoholic products, i will advise he should not take the offer. Even if he doesnot drink, working in the environment where they produce it is not good for him. Believe in God he will provide you a better job at the appropriate time.

coolviv:


HmAm how do you know? Did they write it there?

It was stated that Noah, the first drunkard, was an husbandman! He got drunk from the wine he processed from is vine farm...there are other points in the bible that talks about it, like the songs of solomon. A little patience in reading the bible won't harm,

Coolcash1:
I will like to share a true life experience that is happening now.

Also, I will appreciate if the moderator can move this to front page to gather enough advice as possible.

My wife's brother-in law who is a pastor in RCCG was offered an employment in one of the leading MNL brewery company but contemplating on taking it up. His reason was it is against his faith. I argued that so long you are not going to be taking their products I don't see anything bad in it. Here is a man that really needs to change his job because of his current state of living which is not good at all.

So, I will like you to advice if I am the one that is wrong or him. Because I am of the opinion that whether you are a Muslim or Christian faithful working in such industry is not against one's faith.

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......just a thought, what position is he being offered? If it's like account and administrative position, no problems. But if he's delivery man, driving the truck or escorting it, problem dey oh as a pastor![/size]

CrazyMan:
The Bible doesn’t condemn alcohol. The only reference made to alcohol in the Bible is do not take too much of wine, don't be filled with wine".

Prophets, men of God and even Jesus himself all drank wine. And in his last moments on earth, he (Jesus) gave his disciples wine and bread and specifically instructed us to keep drinking wine in remembrance of him.

But despite the fact that Jesus and his disciples were known for drinking wine, (in fact one of Jesus first miracles was the turning of water into wine) it was never recorded anywhere in the bible that he (Jesus) nor his disciples got drunk. They choose to be filled with more of the holy ghost than the wine they consumed.

So you see these alcohol stuff has to do with the individual state...people detest alcohol not because the bible strongly forbids it but because they feel its not good.

Tell your pastor in-law to accept the job offer. Whether or not he consumes it is up to him to decide. But in the meantime, he has a family to carter for.

don't mind d hypocrates....does d bible condemn consumption of alcohol?....Paul wrote to timothy and I quote "drink no more water but little wine for d sake of Ur stomach and reoccurring diseases".....am sure if alcohol is a sin he wouldn't an prescribed it for bro timo.
Jesus Christ himself said "john d baptist came he Dnt drink nor eat dey said he has evil spirit,BT d son of man came he ate and drank dey call him a glutton and a DRUNKARD".... am sure if pple had not seen him taking alcohol dey wouldn't av called him a drunkard...Bible does not forbid alcohol,mode racy is what it preaches...
"woes unto dem DAT tarries at d table of wine "is what d bible says not woe unto dem DAT sit or near d table of wine....enof of dis hypocritical lifestyle... u no dey drink BT u dey lie and fornicate...where is d sense in DAT?

Can a pastor work in the following places:

Jolly Friends Hotel
Reckitt Benckiser (manufactyrers of KY Jelly and Durex)
NairaBet

crixtex:

If I work in a condom industry, I will b promoting sin as well.. coz I m producing things dat ALWAYS lead pple to go against God's will....

I won't talk about condoms but please how is taking alcohol a sin against God. Please help with scriptural references.

i will provide mine too, which will show taking alcohol isn't sinful but the misuse of it, also known as drunkenness

Ok. But even at that, he must have attended series of interviews or chats to have gotten an offer abi?

Coolcash1:


No. The job was on recommendation.

Doluvincent1:
If truly he is a Christian he should not pick up the job.
"Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things." (Philippians 4:.
So the question now is : is this job "just"
is it a honest job
is it a job of good report?

So even those posters above saying drinking alcohol is not a sin read and understand the above verse to know if drinking will make people to give a good report about u?
Or if there is any praise in drinking

his breakthrough is on the way
he should just focus on JESUS only

God bless

I totally disagree with this.

Mind you, been cautioned about all these things is because of your health matters, it's not because of getting to heaven or not.

Taking alcohol is like taking beverages or water. But, been cautioned on it is because of what an excess of it can cause to your body. I don't want to believe that taking Coke or Pepsi is better than beer though, but things are just needed to be done moderately. If Christ can take wine, then I don't see anything wrong in taking it. And besides, alcohol has a reason of been created.

Btruth:
. And besides, alcohol has a reason of been created.

I always tell people this.. If God doesn't want us to take alcohol at all, then there is no reason he should create it. I was just telling someone who said taking palm wine is a sin

haibe:


I won't talk about condoms but please how is taking alcohol a sin against God. Please help with scriptural references.

i will provide mine too, which will show taking alcohol isn't sinful but the misuse of it, also known as drunkenness

Jesus was a Nazarite who never took Alcohol, so Jesus did not turn water to Alcoholic wine....
D bible specifies Wine and Strong drink. We as christians are dedicated to God through Jesus Christ, so dea are things we shudn't indulge ourselves in or be heard of amongst us... Taking in of Alcohol is amongst them.... buh y most are against alcohol is dat it has d tendency to b abused....

NO! Never right. Its like selling your birth rite for a meal of pottage. I guess u know wat follows after

If he's putting church as reference point then he should ignore the job and the church should pay him full time

Apostle Paul said a little wine is good for the body. Whether he takes alchohol is his whala but he needs to be reminded that drunkards will not enter into the kingdome of God who is a drunkard - some who over drink the liquid, and reason many detest the liquid content is because of the after effect of the liquid in the body and mind of the drinker. how will you feel when you see your brother drunk and come home beating the wife?

Think about it. if what i will drink will make me to sin or will make me make another person committ sin i will rather not do it.

To work in brewry....eheheheheheheh its up to your level of faith.

There's the utmost need for a pastor to not just work in an alcohol manufacturing company but also have a feel of the alcohol itself cos the smell of the alcohol and the way it feels inside him would increase his spirit level

crixtex:

Jesus was a Nazarite who never took Alcohol, so Jesus did not turn water to Alcoholic wine....
D bible specifies Wine and Strong drink. We as christians are dedicated to God through Jesus Christ, so dea are things we shudn't indulge ourselves in or be heard of amongst us... Taking in of Alcohol is amongst them.... buh y most are against alcohol is dat it has d tendency to b abused....

the question is you should provide scriptural reference condemning taking alcohol itself.

kayalcomp:
If the company produces alcoholic products, i will advise he should not take the offer. Even if he doesnot drink, working in the environment where they produce it is not good for him. Believe in God he will provide you a better job at the appropriate time.

How exactly is it not good for him?
Pls go straight to the point.

OP Nairaland is not a place for you to ask such a question. I'll advice you and your inlaw to go into dry fasting and ask God for his direction over the job.
I'm sure He will definitely speak.

Asking people this kind of question is like allowing the human body to dictate things where you need God to speak.

haibe:


I always tell people this.. If God doesn't want us to take alcohol at all, then there is no reason he should create it. I was just telling someone who said taking palm wine is a sin

Ah! Taking palm wine is the greatest privileged to all wine/alcohol drinker. Because, palm wine the most natural drink of all. No mind them Abeg my dear brother.

I absolutely don't see anything wrong in his working in such a place.
Alcohol is not poison. The Bible in which his faith is built does not in any way condemn alcohol but taking it in excess.
Remind him that " worse than an infidel is he that cannot provide for his family". Maybe, that will jolt him out of his comfort zone and make him go the job without further delay

True talk he needs to think about it very well what position?

pomsky:


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crixtex:

Jesus was a Nazarite who never took Alcohol, so Jesus did not turn water to Alcoholic wine....
D bible specifies Wine and Strong drink. We as christians are dedicated to God through Jesus Christ, so dea are things we shudn't indulge ourselves in or be heard of amongst us... Taking in of Alcohol is amongst them.... buh y most are against alcohol is dat it has d tendency to b abused....

Waiting for scriptural reference to back up this jaundiced view.

Coolcash1:
I will like to share a true life experience that is happening now.

Also, I will appreciate if the moderator can move this to front page to gather enough advice as possible.

My wife's brother-in law who is a pastor in RCCG was offered an employment in one of the leading MNL brewery company but contemplating on taking it up. His reason was it is against his faith. I argued that so long you are not going to be taking their products I don't see anything bad in it. Here is a man that really needs to change his job because of his current state of living which is not good at all.

So, I will like you to advice if I am the one that is wrong or him. Because I am of the opinion that whether you are a Muslim or Christian faithful working in such industry is not against one's faith.

What is God telling him as a pastor ? Remember, people depend on men of God for revelations these days. Otherwise, he should meet Adeboye for guide.

[quote author=tonychristopher post=33028097][/quote] Stay away from a foolish man you will not find knowledge on his lips

He shouldn't take the job. Alcohol is poison and he'll be contributing to the death of many lives while his job is to save them. And come to think of it, he's a pastor isnt he? Doesn't his church pay him?

The pastor should pls forget about the job and face the choosen work of God, is like if someone is given a job to work in a cocaine factory do u no the effect? Drinking alcohol is dangerous to health so why contrubuting to the fall of man its completely against the doctrine of God read ur bible and u will see more concern drinking of Alcohol

mbulela:

Since you are not a Christian how do you know who qualifies to be a true Christian?

That moment when you have to explain that you were being sarcastic. Guess I'm so advance in doling out sarcasm.







the same pastor will collect tithe from arm robbers is contemplating working in a brewery



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justi4jesu:

Howdy?

mbulela:


Waiting for scriptural reference to back up this jaundiced view.

Luke 1; 15, Lev 10:9, Judges 13:4&7, Rom 1:26.... All talking about a christian.. Remember a Christian is dedicated to God already.....

Coolcash1:
I will like to share a true life experience that is happening now.

Also, I will appreciate if the moderator can move this to front page to gather enough advice as possible.

My wife's brother-in law who is a pastor in RCCG was offered an employment in one of the leading MNL brewery company but contemplating on taking it up. His reason was it is against his faith. I argued that so long you are not going to be taking their products I don't see anything bad in it. Here is a man that really needs to change his job because of his current state of living which is not good at all.

So, I will like you to advice if I am the one that is wrong or him. Because I am of the opinion that whether you are a Muslim or Christian faithful working in such industry is not against one's faith.

IT IS SO WRONG!!! A CHRISTIAN,PASTOR,BELIEVER,BORNAGAIN HAS NO DEALINGS WITH BREWERIES,BARS,CLUBS E.TC
I'LL ASK YOU, IS IT WRONG TO SELL HARD DRUGS, EVEN THOUGH YOU DON'T TAKE THEM??