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Any Evidence That Christ Really Exists Without A Bible Backing by PAT4HOT(m): 6:01am On Apr 17, 2015 |
These thoughs has been going through my mind if Christ really exist (infact if there is a deity) as proclaimed by the world over. I am more interesting with the Christianity aspect of it as am in a Christian dominated part of the world. So my worry is, HOW CAN I BE CONVINCED IF CHRIST TRULY OR REALLY EXIST WITHOUT A BIBLE QUOTATION? Please I need matured answers only and no insults please. |
Re: Any Evidence That Christ Really Exists Without A Bible Backing by CountDracula(m): 6:17am On Apr 17, 2015 |
Ur existence is proof of the existence of a diety... A God, I dnt knw if Jesus existed in any other literature but d fact dat dere was a book written in his tym is more dan enof proof of hw special He was... I think dats d 1st ever biography to b written in history, dere cudnt hav been anoda, its d original, d one piece of evidence! |
Re: Any Evidence That Christ Really Exists Without A Bible Backing by eleko1: 6:19am On Apr 17, 2015 |
Go to the beach,U'll see the amazing WONDERS of AGE/tremble with fear |
Re: Any Evidence That Christ Really Exists Without A Bible Backing by bakjal(m): 6:24am On Apr 17, 2015 |
Yes ofcos the Noble Holy Qur'an is yet another proof Not only did it mention,but also explain how he was given birth to on a chapter wit his mother's name "MARYAM" |
Re: Any Evidence That Christ Really Exists Without A Bible Backing by ayindejimmy(m): 6:29am On Apr 17, 2015 |
Sure! You don't need any literature to tell you Christ really exist. Simply travel to Israel and visit Jerusalem and Nazareth people there will show you where used to be the area Jesus lived. That apart, when you have established a cordial relationship with God, you will have a personal encounter with Jesus himself. 1 Like |
Re: Any Evidence That Christ Really Exists Without A Bible Backing by jascon1(m): 6:29am On Apr 17, 2015 |
Well, the Quran attested to it. At the time Jesus existed journalism was at its birth, tho historians can prove it to u better. Anyways, do u discredit the Bible's authenticity? My brother, don't let the devil use you. Kindly inbox me n we can talk more on this |
Re: Any Evidence That Christ Really Exists Without A Bible Backing by Truth24(m): 6:30am On Apr 17, 2015 |
Believe by Faith dear |
Re: Any Evidence That Christ Really Exists Without A Bible Backing by Nobody: 6:33am On Apr 17, 2015 |
@OP I compose a song for you Is all over the place the mighty work of God That He has done of old throughout the world What no man eyes have seen What no man ears have heard A great salvation He has prepared for All. OP Christ came and die for our sins... crucified and resurrect the third day that we may live.. Sir,, if you want to know if Christ came you buy a Bible and read that is the only source of Christ existence....the real Christ.. In everything you do remember Christ died for you and Yes it is True God Loves You |
Re: Any Evidence That Christ Really Exists Without A Bible Backing by Nobody: 6:40am On Apr 17, 2015 |
bakjal:The Christ in Quran is not Christ of the Bible..The former Is a propaganda by Satan while the Latter is the divine source of Life for all..The bread that came down from heaven and give life to all...The one that is,was and still to come... The True and Sovereign God who is to be worship forever.... OP buy a Bible and read you will be surprised about the revelation God will give you |
Re: Any Evidence That Christ Really Exists Without A Bible Backing by bakjal(m): 6:47am On Apr 17, 2015 |
starlingslimnet:SORRY! I THOUGHT I COULD ADD TO THE TABLE... |
Re: Any Evidence That Christ Really Exists Without A Bible Backing by Nobody: 6:55am On Apr 17, 2015 |
bakjal:Nevermind |
Re: Any Evidence That Christ Really Exists Without A Bible Backing by PAT4HOT(m): 6:59am On Apr 17, 2015 |
CountDracula: Then what makes you think that the founders did not just make up a story in the bible to backup their belief. 1 Like |
Re: Any Evidence That Christ Really Exists Without A Bible Backing by PAT4HOT(m): 7:03am On Apr 17, 2015 |
ayindejimmy: Are u aware that Israel is not a Christian country, then why is the supposed origin of Christ not dominated by Christians? 2 Likes |
Re: Any Evidence That Christ Really Exists Without A Bible Backing by ayindejimmy(m): 7:38am On Apr 17, 2015 |
PAT4HOT:Simple. Jesus Christ is not a Christian. The religion started after the life of Jesus. The ancestral home of Jesus was captured by Islamist during the rise of the Islam religion so since then most inhabitants have been practicing Islam. Even during Jesus time, according to history, you know many did not believe his prophecy. "A prophet is not valued in his own town." So most of Jesus' people are Jews and Jews are not Christians |
Re: Any Evidence That Christ Really Exists Without A Bible Backing by vooks: 7:56am On Apr 17, 2015 |
Start with the Quran, then Jewish literature over the same period PAT4HOT: |
Re: Any Evidence That Christ Really Exists Without A Bible Backing by PAT4HOT(m): 8:00am On Apr 17, 2015 |
ayindejimmy: INTERESTING!!!! So how then did the Christians come to play.... Come to think of it, how was Christ originated, if from God (the father) then how was the father originated? Is there a grand father? 1 Like |
Re: Any Evidence That Christ Really Exists Without A Bible Backing by ayindejimmy(m): 8:45am On Apr 17, 2015 |
PAT4HOT:The meaning of Christian is " to be Christ like" Now Jesus came to the world in human form so as to be accepted by all humans. In the beginning there was the Word and the word is God. Jesus has been with God from creation. The knowledge of God surpasses all human comprehension. You don't understand it by having a PhD of Masters. It will only be revealed to you when you're in TOTAL submission to the will of God. To know more about God, Jesus and the origin of God find a KJV Bible and read it with the heart of someone willing to learn news things without any prejudice. So help u God |
Re: Any Evidence That Christ Really Exists Without A Bible Backing by Nobody: 8:54am On Apr 17, 2015 |
PAT4HOT:Sir',I like the fact that you curious minded wanna seek jesus existence but I'm pained in my heart at the ignorance and lies been written to you especially the first poster to have replied you,Truth is,you being misled by these people whom you agree with because all of you still believe in the same christ therefore giving you more questions to ask yourself at the exhibition of others ignorance and yes I'm atheist but I wouldn't wanna write here the truth because it would seem like a jigsaw puzzle for you to fit in the pieces but like socrates said "I can't give you knowledge,I can only make you THINK" and the great physicist Albert Einstein also said something he said "education isn't to learn facts but to the ability to think" so,don't believe any one who claims to know the truth just to camouflaging their ignorance for intelligence,Truth is like a pathless land because you stubble on truth on your way to the destination of lies. Like I said I'm a proud atheist and constant study and research has made me understand the word "BELIEF" contains "LIE" in the middle. 2 Likes |
Re: Any Evidence That Christ Really Exists Without A Bible Backing by CountDracula(m): 1:37pm On Apr 17, 2015 |
PAT4HOT:Its goin to b both foolish and impossible to write such a magnificent book and nt include ur name as the author. Dnt u think? |
Re: Any Evidence That Christ Really Exists Without A Bible Backing by davien(m): 5:04pm On Apr 17, 2015 |
CountDracula:So was Allah the author of the Quran? |
Re: Any Evidence That Christ Really Exists Without A Bible Backing by CountDracula(m): 5:31pm On Apr 17, 2015 |
davien:I never mentioned anythng abt d quran. I dnt do religious arguments. |
Re: Any Evidence That Christ Really Exists Without A Bible Backing by Nobody: 5:48pm On Apr 17, 2015 |
I'm sorry to disappoint you but the only external mention of Jesus Christ in the 1st century was supposedly by Josephus and it turned out to be a forgery by Eusebius in the 3rd century. 2 Likes |
Re: Any Evidence That Christ Really Exists Without A Bible Backing by Joagbaje(m): 6:12pm On Apr 17, 2015 |
PAT4HOT: The calendar has your answer . What is the meaning of 2015 AD ? 1 Like |
Re: Any Evidence That Christ Really Exists Without A Bible Backing by vooks: 6:53pm On Apr 17, 2015 |
Don't waste your literacy http://coldcasechristianity.com/2014/is-there-any-evidence-for-jesus-outside-the-bible/ DProDG: |
Re: Any Evidence That Christ Really Exists Without A Bible Backing by davien(m): 7:01pm On Apr 17, 2015 |
CountDracula:It's not an argument....it's a question based on your logic.....like you said why would someone go through all the hassle to mark something with their name? |
Re: Any Evidence That Christ Really Exists Without A Bible Backing by CountDracula(m): 7:22pm On Apr 17, 2015 |
davien:I dnt wanna talk abt quran... |
Re: Any Evidence That Christ Really Exists Without A Bible Backing by Nobody: 8:14pm On Apr 17, 2015 |
Joagbaje:Lol, you have no knowledge of the history of the Gregorian calender do you? |
Re: Any Evidence That Christ Really Exists Without A Bible Backing by johnydon22(m): 8:20pm On Apr 17, 2015 |
They may be a real historical occurance that a Jesus existed in the isreali roman outpost. . . The name Jesus is a very common name in isreali. their is high chance that a jewish teacher of probably essens sect taught and had followers. But the activities sorrounding the christlized Jesus of the Christian belief are plain myth reworked from other ancient religions and popular mythologies . . Like the virgin birth, walking on water and thousand other supernatural mumbo jumbo concorted in both the synoptic and gnostic gospels. 1 Like |
Re: Any Evidence That Christ Really Exists Without A Bible Backing by johnydon22(m): 8:23pm On Apr 17, 2015 |
Joagbaje: Lmao. . . Calendar.. You mean the gregorian/julian calendar we are using now right? |
Re: Any Evidence That Christ Really Exists Without A Bible Backing by Nobody: 8:26pm On Apr 17, 2015 |
vooks:Is this a joke? |
Re: Any Evidence That Christ Really Exists Without A Bible Backing by johnydon22(m): 9:17pm On Apr 17, 2015 |
Their are list of many Jesuses actually The archetypal Jewish hero was Joshua (the successor of Moses) otherwise known as Yehoshua (Yeshua) bin Nun (‘Jesus of the fish’). Since the name Jesus (Yeshua or Yeshu in Hebrew, Iesous in Greek, source of the English spelling) originally was a title (meaning ‘saviour’, derived from ‘Yahweh Saves’ ) probably every band in the Jewish resistance had its own hero figure sporting this moniker, among others. Josephus, the first century Jewish historian mentions no fewer than nineteen different Yeshuas/Jesii, about half of them contemporaries of the supposed Christ! In his Antiquities , of the twenty-eight high priests who held office from the reign of Herod the Great to the fall of the Temple, no fewer than four bore the name Jesus: Jesus ben Phiabi , Jesus ben Sec , Jesus ben Damneus and Jesus ben Gamaliel. Even Saint Paul makes reference to a rival magician, preaching ‘another Jesus’ (2 Corinthians 11,4). The surfeit of early Jesuses includes: Jesus ben Sirach . This Jesus was reputedly the author of the Book of Sirach (aka 'Ecclesiasticus, or the Wisdom of Jesus the Son of Sirach '), part of Old Testament Apocrypha. Ben Sirach, writing in Greek about 180 BC, brought together Jewish 'wisdom' and Homeric-style heroes. Jesus ben Pandira. A wonder-worker during the reign of Alexander Jannaeus (106-79 BC), one of the most ruthless of the Maccabean kings. Imprudently, this Jesus launched into a career of end-time prophecy and agitation which upset the king. He met his own premature end-time by being hung on a tree – and on the eve of a Passover. Scholars have speculated this Jesus founded the Essene sect. Jesus ben Ananias . Beginning in 62AD, this Jesus had caused disquiet in Jerusalem with a non-stop doom-laden mantra of ‘Woe to the city’. He prophesied rather vaguely: "A voice from the east, a voice from the west, a voice from the four winds, a voice against Jerusalem and the holy house, a voice against the bridegrooms and the brides, and a voice against the whole people." – Josephus, Wars 6.3. Arrested and flogged by the Romans, Jesus ben Ananias was released as nothing more dangerous than a mad man. He died during the siege of Jerusalem from a rock hurled by a Roman catapult. Jesus ben Saphat. In the insurrection of 68AD that wrought havoc in Galilee, this Jesus had led the rebels in Tiberias ("the leader of a seditious tumult of mariners and poor people " – Josephus, Life 12.66). When the city was about to fall to Vespasian’s legionaries he fled north to Tarichea on the Sea of Galilee. Jesus ben Gamala. During 68/69 AD this Jesus was a leader of the ‘peace party’ in the civil war wrecking Judaea. From the walls of Jerusalem he had remonstrated with the besieging Idumeans (led by ‘James and John, sons of Susa’). It did him no good. When the Idumeans breached the walls he was put to death and his body thrown to the dogs and carrion birds. Jesus ben Thebuth. A priest who, in the final capitulation of the upper city in 69AD, saved his own skin by surrendering the treasures of the Temple, which included two holy candlesticks, goblets of pure gold, sacred curtains and robes of the high priests. The booty figured prominently in the Triumph held for Vespasian and his son Titus. But was there a crucified Jesus? Certainly. Jesus ben Stada was a Judean agitator who gave the Romans a headache in the early years of the second century. He met his end in the town of Lydda (twenty five miles from Jerusalem) at the hands of a Roman crucifixion crew. And given the scale that Roman retribution could reach – at the height of the siege of Jerusalem the Romans were crucifying upwards of five hundred captives a day before the city walls – dead heroes called Jesus would (quite literally) have been thick on the ground. Not one merits a full-stop in the great universal history. 1 Like |
Re: Any Evidence That Christ Really Exists Without A Bible Backing by Nobody: 10:22pm On Apr 17, 2015 |
vooks: Which Jewish literature? I hope it is not the Bible? The New Testament was written between 30 AD and 95 AD. The Quran was compiled about 600 AD. 1 Like |
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