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Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by pazienza(m): 3:59pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
trillville: I am from Anambra, if you must know. Yes, there is sense in it. Incase of any sea related disaster like sea storms and sea level rise and submerging/ flooding, it's those states close to the sea that will bear the direct impact. It's only fair that they enjoy both the positives and negatives the sea has to offer, don't you think so? 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by trillville(m): 4:11pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
pazienza: Your example is quite funny, what if the resulting flood not only affects the Niger delta but also anambra. So anambra should suffer the flood but get no benefit? How do we decide the impact of this your imaginary flood?? We are talking about ownership here and now who is affected by flooding. Why should the Niger delta claim to own resources in the Atlantic Ocean? Again, if there is a virus (disease) in the Niger Delta, and this virus spreads to anambra, why should anambrans suffer the effect of the Niger Deltan virus but not benefit from the Niger Deltan oil? 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by pazienza(m): 4:15pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
trillville: What if Niger delta were to be an independent country of their own, will we be talking about onshore/offshore stuff here? Why can't the rest of the control be happy they are part of the country, and let them keep their resources while paying taxes to the central government? 2 Likes |
Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by meccuno: 4:25pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
pazienza:parasitic qualities of the "One Nigerian state" 2 Likes |
Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by pazienza(m): 4:31pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
meccuno: I tell you, they started off as facultative parasites, now they have evolved to obligate ones. 3 Likes |
Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by trillville(m): 4:37pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
pazienza: Even if the Niger delta were a country on its own, Nigeria could still claim the resources in the ocean. For example, the state Alaska is a piece of land only bordered by Canada, yet is part of the United States of America. The Reunion island is off the coast of South East Africa after Madagascar yet it is part of the French Republic. So what right would the Niger delta have to claim what is in the Atlantic Ocean? |
Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by yang(m): 4:39pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
We have oil in Anambra. All regions should control their resource and end parasites. pazienza: 2 Likes |
Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by pazienza(m): 4:46pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
trillville: You mean, even Niger and Chad can also lay claim to the Atlantic ocean, since they are neighbors to the North, and indirectly Nigeria, right? Nigeria can only lay claim to the part of the Atlantic ocean that borders Lagos and Ondo states, if Niger delta were to be an independent country of it's own. 2 Likes |
Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by pazienza(m): 4:47pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
yang: I know, but it's not yet well developed. |
Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by trillville(m): 5:01pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
pazienza: Yes The only thing stopping them is the Nigerian army. This brings about the question of civil war. While it is morally justifiable for resources on land in the Niger delta to be considered Niger delta resources, will the western world also support the idea of the resources in the ocean belonging to the niger delta? What happens in the case of a civil war. Winner takes all |
Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by kmariko: 5:52pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
edogirl2: The united states we so copy, oil is owned by individuals, corporation and families not by states. The communities where the oil if found are the rightful owners. The family where the oil is found are the rightful owners. The scenario you just painted is merely to fly a kite and see where it lands. Resource control is not about Niger Delta as no such entity exists. Resource control is about fiscal federalism and reducing the overbearing government at the center.. 1 Like |
Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by trillville(m): 6:04pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
kmariko: I agree with all you've just said in principle. From your understanding, who owns the offshore oil and gas? |
Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by kmariko: 6:07pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
trillville: Within nigerian territorial waters which ever company discovered it I |
Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by cocoduck: 6:11pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
trillville: please please hahahahaha it is enough oooo this your logic na ogbonga logic can you imagine? abeg e don do you are too funny my belle wan burst for laughter chai Nigerians ehh na wa ooooh |
Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by trillville(m): 6:12pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
kmariko: Even if its a foreign multinational like shell? Does nigeria deserve to get any compensation based on the fact that the oil is in Nigerians territorial waters? |
Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by kmariko: 6:14pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
trillville: It is called tax |
Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by trillville(m): 6:16pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
cocoduck: This is one of the major reasons the PIB has not been passed. The issue of ownership of offshore wells. |
Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by trillville(m): 6:18pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
kmariko:How do you tax something you do not own. How would the Nigerian government tax the corporation? You said the corporation owns the offshore well yet it is paying tax for something it owns? What's the sense in that? |
Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by asha80(m): 6:23pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
I wonder why I get the feeling that kogi state is potentially richer than bayelsa state |
Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by kmariko: 6:25pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
trillville: Yes there is something called corporate tax. The tax that companies like Guiness or Coca cola pays for operating in the country. Also taxes are merely generic term that encompass a variety of fees that oil companies will pay for operating in the country irrespective of country of origin. 1 Like |
Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by IGBOSON1: 6:44pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
Vorp: ^^^Unless you're from Akwa Ibom, it's hardly any of your business how they choose to spend their money! |
Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by IGBOSON1: 6:51pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
trillville: ^^^So why is Niger or Chad claiming the resources in our territorial waters!? You peeps just like to stand reason on its head to justify your continued dependence on the Niger Delta ! 1 Like |
Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by Sweetguy25: 6:54pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
asha80:The thing with oil is that easily attracts investment and it has a greater commercial value than anything in Kogi. Kogi can't be richer than Bayelsa. 1 Like |
Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by trillville(m): 6:54pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
kmariko: Yeah you are right. We could tax companies different rates for different natural resources. 1 Like |
Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by trillville(m): 6:59pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
IGBOSON1: See, we are a sovereign nation, what protects our sovereignty is our army |
Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by BushidoBlue(m): 9:38pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
Vorp: Have you been to Akwa Ibom in d past two years? |
Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by Chiaka(f): 9:57am On Apr 24, 2015 |
edogirl2: But even when you give to other members of your family part of your wealth. The larger percentage still stays with you, not the other way round |
Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by Chiaka(f): 10:02am On Apr 24, 2015 |
pazienza: I agree with you. During the cash crop era. The farmers where in control the government buy from them for export so what are we saying here. Why cant the same be done for Oil. Why will only one region be serving the whole of the regions. If its done other regions will have to build wealth also, they will then look inward. Every region is blessed some way or the other. This is why I don't blame militants when they go on rampage. So much is taken from their region. |
Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by Chiaka(f): 10:03am On Apr 24, 2015 |
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Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by Chiaka(f): 10:04am On Apr 24, 2015 |
texazzpete: If you are from that region you will not be here saying this Nonsense!! |
Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by Chiaka(f): 10:08am On Apr 24, 2015 |
Vorp: Akwa government have done a lot aside the stadium. Don't sit in Isolation and condemn! and they still need to get more, because money generated from there is used to service other regions. They aren't even getting enough compared to what they generate. |
Re: Resource Control Is Not Feasible by GBTYO: 10:09am On Apr 24, 2015 |
Nigeria is a land of the absurd! SW governors like Fasole and that rascal Aregbe keep demanding for more revenue from the central govt. They hinge their claims for more money on the fact that the current sharing formula of 52% to the FG is too large. Ask the ediots how the FG gets so much revenue which is primarily from the proceeds of Niger Delta oil and they will keep mute. You want more at the expense of another region. Full resource control and an exit from this useless nigeria is what we demand Operation 12 Monkeys No more free food for baboons 1 Like 1 Share |
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