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Re: Norway Apologizes For Selling Military Wares To Nigerian Insurgents by ebukaOtika(m): 3:58pm On May 01, 2015 |
doctokwus: You Are Very Very Wicked and Heartless,,,, what right and Mannerism do you have to Insult his Parents huh ,,.? Who brought you up must be questioned ,,,, the guy insulted you , why didnt you insult him in particular or you ignore him ,.,,, You better stop dis Thrashy Attitude of Yours or else it will land you where you will for ever more Regret. |
Re: Norway Apologizes For Selling Military Wares To Nigerian Insurgents by goodgood2(m): 3:59pm On May 01, 2015 |
Who are you calling touts, inbred? Europe-trained engineers? The owners of the waters are securing their waterways, and you're there in the desert ranting. Park well, joor before I burst your head. doctokwus: |
Re: Norway Apologizes For Selling Military Wares To Nigerian Insurgents by doctokwus: 4:03pm On May 01, 2015 |
ebukaOtika:You are a confirmed fool.Why didn't you chide him for even insulting me in d first place,fool and accursed! |
Re: Norway Apologizes For Selling Military Wares To Nigerian Insurgents by Hakagure: 4:03pm On May 01, 2015 |
Key term, paramilitary forces. NOT INSURGENTS. What is simple English? The OP changed Paramilitary to insurgent. A blatant misrepresentation, when did NIMASA become MEND or NDVF, did you read the article at all? skyope: |
Re: Norway Apologizes For Selling Military Wares To Nigerian Insurgents by Hakagure: 4:05pm On May 01, 2015 |
The ships can be used on any pirates or aggressor forces in our inland waterways or near coastal waterwats, not just Nigerians. skyope: |
Re: Norway Apologizes For Selling Military Wares To Nigerian Insurgents by doctokwus: 4:06pm On May 01, 2015 |
goodgood2:So tompolo is an Europe trained engineer.I didn't know that,thanks for the scoop. He must have been trained in the Europe of Otuoke. |
Re: Norway Apologizes For Selling Military Wares To Nigerian Insurgents by omonnakoda: 4:08pm On May 01, 2015 |
OrlandoOwoh:What is the difference? |
Re: Norway Apologizes For Selling Military Wares To Nigerian Insurgents by cirmuell(m): 4:10pm On May 01, 2015 |
All these under GEJ's watch and most with his approval. Another 4years under this man would have been hell. |
Re: Norway Apologizes For Selling Military Wares To Nigerian Insurgents by Nobody: 4:15pm On May 01, 2015 |
Hakagure: Norwegian regulations prohibit the sales or export of material or services to private buyers who may arm the vessels and offer them for use in areas of conflict, and those regulations were violated Representatives for CAS Global had also declared that the vessels would sail under British flag and British jurisdiction, and with European crews News bureau NTB reported that Bruun-Hansen admitted that military officials did not carry out a thorough check of the company, CAS Global, that bought six missile torpedo boats (MTBs) and the support vessel KMN Horten three years ago The so-called “Nigerian boats” scandal emerged after a series of reports in newspaper Dagbladet, and several members of the parliamentary committee noted on Thursday that a simple Internet search would have revealed that CAS Global only had a postbox address. Defense department officials nonetheless received the Nigerians who represented CAS Global and wanted to inspect the vessels that were up for sale. I know you read above. But still......believe what you want |
Re: Norway Apologizes For Selling Military Wares To Nigerian Insurgents by Nobody: 4:17pm On May 01, 2015 |
Hakagure: Have you ever heard of any attack in the region that is non-nigerian? |
Re: Norway Apologizes For Selling Military Wares To Nigerian Insurgents by Nobody: 4:17pm On May 01, 2015 |
Basildvalour: Boats that have not been put to use. Is it not the boats purchased by former Niger Delta militants who won pipelines surveillance contracts from the federal government of Nigeria ? Huh ? |
Re: Norway Apologizes For Selling Military Wares To Nigerian Insurgents by o42austino(m): 4:18pm On May 01, 2015 |
harveyspec:listen, their are private security companies over the world, even some nations has private army owned by a company and government can solicits for their help and pay them in return and SA has such Army, America security company has been hired by American government to do one job or the other for them, so why the noise if a Nigerian decided to hv one?, if the law forbids him from having it and he went ahead and establish it then he has committed a crime and should be punished. Why am against this noise is that the vessel in question has been stripped of it armoury and it's no longer a threat to any person or nation, it's now a civilian boat just like the Norway government stated |
Re: Norway Apologizes For Selling Military Wares To Nigerian Insurgents by Nobody: 4:30pm On May 01, 2015 |
o42austino: There are many private security outfits already in Nigeria. Why use an Ex-militants fake company? And if nothing was wrong in the deal, why is there a parliamentary inquiry into it with a former norwegian military employee charged with corruption. |
Re: Norway Apologizes For Selling Military Wares To Nigerian Insurgents by o42austino(m): 4:32pm On May 01, 2015 |
duni04:first I don't like the name calling, pls grow up. Regarding Tompolo buy a Naval boat when he can afford civilian boats, u first hv to know the reason his buying the boat in the first Place. All Naval boat has a greater horsepower than ur normal civilian boats and u need that horsepower to be able to catch pirates both in Nigerian waters and international waters, Tompolo company is a security company that protects Nigeria and international waters again pirates and vandals so they need a big horsepower boat that can go a great knot on the high sea. |
Re: Norway Apologizes For Selling Military Wares To Nigerian Insurgents by o42austino(m): 4:34pm On May 01, 2015 |
skyope:I think their inquiry is based on the person of Tompolo not the company, because they clear mentioned that the company has been helping to fight pirates in the international waters. |
Re: Norway Apologizes For Selling Military Wares To Nigerian Insurgents by hardbody: 4:35pm On May 01, 2015 |
Basildvalour: Did you read the apology? The vessels could have claimed no lives. He said all armaments and such like items were removed to make the both come in line with civilian usage. Read first and comment later. It doea help |
Re: Norway Apologizes For Selling Military Wares To Nigerian Insurgents by ednut1(m): 4:39pm On May 01, 2015 |
Jaypea98:insurgency militancy terrorism all gt der weapons from where. dullard |
Re: Norway Apologizes For Selling Military Wares To Nigerian Insurgents by duni04(m): 4:39pm On May 01, 2015 |
o42austino:There's no point explaining anything to someone with a depraved sense of morality. The morality of Tompolo, a militant warlord in the Niger delta, acquiring gun boats under any guise is the point you still don't get. If those ships had been stripped of their weapons and sold to a legitimate government, no one would be making noise today. But Jonathan's government gave approval to a company owned by his kinsman and ethnic warlord to buy gunboats on behalf of Nigeria. That is the problem! |
Re: Norway Apologizes For Selling Military Wares To Nigerian Insurgents by duni04(m): 4:42pm On May 01, 2015 |
o42austino:oga read the story well! The people who deceived the Norwegians into selling the gunboats to them erroneously and mischievously claimed they were to be used in fighting piracy in somalia and not Nigeria. |
Re: Norway Apologizes For Selling Military Wares To Nigerian Insurgents by o42austino(m): 4:46pm On May 01, 2015 |
duni04:what u failed to understand is that the government gave approval for Procurement but it never gave Tompolo the right to own them, Tompolo acquired it with his company as the security contractor not the final owner, the final owner is NIMASA, Tompolo duty to the vessel is Procurement and maintenance the owner is NIMASA. |
Re: Norway Apologizes For Selling Military Wares To Nigerian Insurgents by o42austino(m): 4:49pm On May 01, 2015 |
duni04:Bros, this boat are procured from the black market and u don't say the truth in the black market and remember American and their friends are blocking our purchases from the open market so our options are in the black market. |
Re: Norway Apologizes For Selling Military Wares To Nigerian Insurgents by Hakagure: 4:56pm On May 01, 2015 |
You are aware that NIMASA is using this boats as we speak? They are not hidden anywhere, they are matters of public record? I agree that the boats were bought using a 3rd party and were misrepresented, what I am clarifying is that they are used by militants, that aspect is not true. skyope: |
Re: Norway Apologizes For Selling Military Wares To Nigerian Insurgents by Nobody: 4:56pm On May 01, 2015 |
o42austino: What is the difference between Tompolo and his company? Did you miss the detail that the company itself has no established identity? "the company has been helping to fight pirates in the international waters" Help fighting pirates, or help fighting other militants who disagree with tompolo?. |
Re: Norway Apologizes For Selling Military Wares To Nigerian Insurgents by Hakagure: 4:57pm On May 01, 2015 |
The fact that no attacks by non Nigerians have occired so far, does not mean attacks by non Nigerians can never occur. skyope: |
Re: Norway Apologizes For Selling Military Wares To Nigerian Insurgents by Nobody: 4:59pm On May 01, 2015 |
Hakagure: The question has always been why this particular 3rd party? The investigation is concerned about this particular 3rd party. Why the lies by CAS global regarding the intent of use? |
Re: Norway Apologizes For Selling Military Wares To Nigerian Insurgents by Nobody: 5:00pm On May 01, 2015 |
Hakagure: Should you not be more worried by existing attacks than imaginary ones? |
Re: Norway Apologizes For Selling Military Wares To Nigerian Insurgents by Hakagure: 5:00pm On May 01, 2015 |
Good point, however that is not illegal, and morality is relative. He was given a contract and he filled it. My problem is claiming it was sold to insurgents when that is not true. No matter how you cut it it, acting like it will be used to destroy Nigerian infrastructure by militants is not true, and the OP clearly meant this to be a case of western powers arming a rebel insurgency in Nigeria. The ships are run by NIMASA, the weapons are run by the Navy since the Navy is running the security aspect of the operation. duni04: |
Re: Norway Apologizes For Selling Military Wares To Nigerian Insurgents by Hakagure: 5:04pm On May 01, 2015 |
Thats a poor point, you are just belaboring. I agree with you that it is used against Pirates. My exception is now the point that all Pirates operating in the Gulf of Guinea/Bight of Benin are Nigerians. That is not true, Ghanaian Pirates have operated in that region, there are more pirates operating in the bight of benin in the past two years than there are operating in the gulf of aden off the coast of Somalia, attacks by non Nigerian pirates are not imaginary, and no... I am not worrying about it. You get kidnap insurance and get some armed guards if your cargo is valuable enough. skyope: |
Re: Norway Apologizes For Selling Military Wares To Nigerian Insurgents by Hakagure: 5:08pm On May 01, 2015 |
Good point about the use of this third party, I am not sure. perhaps its because of the contract given to said Tomopolo as a sub contractor to NIMASA and to supply men for patrolling creeks and inland water ways, why the lies? Norway will not sell ships to any one who could use it in a conflict zone, even a state actor would not have been able to buy the ships, CAS global lied so that hey could buy the ships, probably bought it cheap and marked it up when transferring it to NIMASA, I am merely speculating. The point is, the ships are not operated by an insurgency, Norway is not arming Niger Delta militants. skyope: |
Re: Norway Apologizes For Selling Military Wares To Nigerian Insurgents by o42austino(m): 5:12pm On May 01, 2015 |
skyope:Bros, dont over flog this issue, the boat in Question I'd owned by NIMASA and is not been used by Tompolo or any militant, Tompolo company is a security contractor in this transaction, all they did is acquire and maintain this vessels but the owner are NIMASA. |
Re: Norway Apologizes For Selling Military Wares To Nigerian Insurgents by harveyspec: 5:14pm On May 01, 2015 |
o42austino: Pls which of those countries outsource such need thru security outfits of questionable character? Hope you read the line where it says that CSGLOBAL told them that the ship was going to sail on British waters & will fly a British flag with European workers!! now, it's flying a Nigerian flag on Nigerian waters with nimasa/Nigerian navy workers !! Not until we put sentiments aside of he is my brother or we attend the same church or we are of same tribe, we will never progress |
Re: Norway Apologizes For Selling Military Wares To Nigerian Insurgents by houstonia(m): 5:18pm On May 01, 2015 |
InvertedHammer: Respect sir, trrruuuuueeeeee. |
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