The story of Adam and Eve is definitely a mythological one. If you read about a lot of other ancient cultures you are bound to come across all sorts of stories about the creation of earth and man. Think about it, if a Sango worshipper told you a similar story about man's creation how long will it take you to discard it. Science gives us some glimpses of how things may have been in the beginning, but truth told no one actually knows the full story.

Ovamboland:

I have yet to see anyone disprove the dating method used by scientists to date fossils.

Or else we have many things to disprove, like the origin of televison, atomic power (maybe it also allegory ), Laser systems amd microwave ( can you really prove these exists )?

The best way to learn about history and the age of the earth is to consult the history book of the universe, which is the Bible.  Many scientists and theologians accept a straightforward reading of the Scripture and agree that the earth is about 6,000 years old.  It is better to use the infallible Word of God for our scientific assumptions than to change His Word in order to compromise with the historical or origin "science" that is based on man's fallible assumptions.  True science will always support God's Word.  Chikena!

If you are really interested in what creation scientists that are Christians have discovered, then check the websites below:

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/nab/does-radiometric-dating-prove

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/nab/does-c14-disprove-the-bible

OLAADEGBU:

The best way to learn about history and the age of the earth is to consult the history book of the universe, which is the Bible. Many scientists and theologians accept a straightforward reading of the Scripture and agree that the earth is about 6,000 years old. It is better to use the infallible Word of God for our scientific assumptions than to change His Word in order to compromise with the historical or origin "science" that is based on man's fallible assumptions. True science will always support God's Word. Chikena!

If you are really interested in what creation scientists that are Christians have discovered, then check the websites below:

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/nab/does-radiometric-dating-prove

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/nab/does-c14-disprove-the-bible

Are you kidding me? If you want to believe what is in the bible go ahead and believe, stop using science to validate what is inside the bible because science does not agree with most of the things that are in the bible. Creation scientist are mostly scientist that are confused becase they really do not like science. They are forever looking for excuses and making up false thoeries to back up mostof what is written in the bible, they find science a little bit discomforting because of how it completely rubbishes almost all of the biblical assertions. Believe in the bible if you want to but stop using science to validate it because science does not agree with the bible.

Ovamboland:

I have yet to see anyone disprove the dating method used by scientists to date fossils.

Or else we have many things to disprove, like the origin of televison, atomic power (maybe it also allegory ), Laser systems amd microwave ( can you really prove these exists )?

Hi Ovamboland. You can wait ad infinitum but be lest assured that you will not get an alternative but scientifically verifiable dating methods from those that question the present scientific methods of dating. If for example they dispute that that dinosaur fossils do not date back to 96 million earth years or more, then they should invent their own dating methods and do a dating of the fossils themselves.  Belief is not a replacement for evidence and until these opponents provide alternative experimental evidence, all they have is a wish or what some may call a belief. When "religious" people mock scientific explanations, it simply springs from fear (often uncounscious) that their fancifully erected edifice is collapsing like a pack of cards in the light of current scientific evidence. And fear is an unhealthy emotion that paralysis both the faculties of the brain as well as the faculties of the spirit. Fear can make men think the unthinkable and believe the unbelievable. Best wishes.

farotika:

@ poster,

I will advise you to go back to history of RCC and u'll realize they are not Christians (Act 11:26; X-tians are those u believe what Christ believe and leave like him).

This so-called church has killed many x-tians and even burn many alive just because they preached Christ. The RCC of old made it a sin punishable by death if anybody was caught reading the Bible. Should they be the one to teach us about the sword of the spirit?

We are not here to call names.I believe this is an intellectual discourse.Back ur arguments with reasons or back off.

m_nwankwo:

Hi Ovamboland. You can wait ad infinitum but be lest assured that you will not get an alternative but scientifically verifiable dating methods from those that question the present scientific methods of dating. If for example they dispute that that dinosaur fossils do not date back to 96 million earth years or more, then they should invent their own dating methods and do a dating of the fossils themselves. Belief is not a replacement for evidence and until these opponents provide alternative experimental evidence, all they have is a wish or what some may call a belief. When "religious" people mock scientific explanations, it simply springs from fear (often uncounscious) that their fancifully erected edifice is collapsing like a pack of cards in the light of current scientific evidence. And fear is an unhealthy emotion that paralysis both the faculties of the brain as well as the faculties of the spirit. Fear can make men think the unthinkable and believe the unbelievable. Best wishes.

This is very true, its also one of the reason i dislike debating theist. They use the world belief to ignore glaring evidence that go against what is written in their various religious text.

This is what Fax-Timer wrote earlier: This is not much and a long talk, As for this words you all are talking about; i have a question.
Have you ever in your life SEEN GOD?
Do you ever know if really GOD was GOD either if all the things in the Bible were real.

As for me i can tell you that take your time and as him to show him self to you but if he doesn't then For get it , Its all friction , or movie"smile".

But i will like to Fax-Timer a Questions:

Have you ever seen your Brain?

I guess no. Which means You don't have a brain.

Writers in that time(middleages) before there was a clear divide between fiction/ non-fiction, and before there were people vetting your work tended to embellish a lot.  In many cultures, particularly with an oral storytelling tradition, it was the embellishments that allowed a story to survive (because they were repeated and memorised over and over).  There's also the tendency (you see this today watching the news) for the person writing to favour his side (so when I watch the sports report on TV, and the Nigerian team have beaten the Cameronian team, the people on the Nigerian news emphasise how large and humiliating the defeat was.  On Cameronian TV they will report tha the defeat was very close, and perhaps due to something like poor umpiring or the weather or bad luck.  Have you seen something like that, though perhaps not with football).  These things are only accentuated when a claim of the divine comes in- because more people have got more to prove.  And also remember that for most of our ancient sources, we rely on medieval (Christian) scholars for their survival- in some cases, the earliest copies we have are from the Dark Ages (I'm not thinking specifically of the Bible, but ancient texts).  Medieval scholars weren't above a bit of embellishment themselves, as has been proven in some secular cases when looking at ancient history.

That doesn't tell you what did or didn't happen, but it may give you some idea as to why these texts aren't particularly reliable at all.

Here are evidences that further supports the biblical account of a young earth.

Population Studies Indicate A Young Planet Earth

According to the Star Tribune Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA, July 24, 1999, "Last weekend the world's population topped 6 billion".
In 1985 there were 5 billion people in the world.
In the year 1800 there were only 1 billion people in the whole world.
In the year 3 BC a Roman Census at the time of the Birth of Jesus Christ indicated that the population of the world was 250 million.
All text books teach that, and the world's population is growing rapidly.

Illustration from Merrill Earth Science 1993, p.503
(Check the link below for the graph or chart of the population growth of modern humans)

Year World Population
   
2000 6 Billion
1985 5 Billion
1800 1 Billion
3BC 250 Million

The Bible teaches that:

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[li]6,000 years ago God created the Universe.[/li]
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[li]4,400 years ago there was a Flood which destroyed everyone except for 8 people. [/li]
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[li]The current population curve started 4,400 years ago. [/li]
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Current growth curve based on Biblical time scales

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[li]If you start with 8 people 4,400 years ago, after Noah's Flood, a population of 6 Billion people over 4,400 years is perfectly reasonable. [/li]
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Current growth curve based on Evolutionary Theory

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[li]Evolutionists believe that the Earth is billions of years old, and that Human Life evolved millions of years ago. [/li]
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[li]If Human Life started 3 million years ago, we would now have a world population of 150,000 people per square inch, and that is incredibly crowded! [/li]
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[li]The population growth curve clearly demonstrates that Human Life did not start[b] 3 million [/b] years ago. [/li]
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http://www.finalfrontier.org.uk/index.php?main=3&sub=1&page=22

The Earth Is Slowing Down

Because of the Second Law of Thermodynamics, the Earth is slowing down.  In fact the whole Universe is slowing down.  The Earth is spinning at approximately 1000 miles per hour at the equator, but it is slowing down.  The Earth is slowing down at a rate of 1/1000 second per day.

Regular clocks use days as a measure, which are growing longer by a thousandth of a second or more daily as Earth's rotation slows down.

According to Astronomy Magazine, June 1992, p 24, "The Earth's Rotation is slowing down. To compensate for this lagging motion, June will be one second longer than normal. This 'Leap Second' announced by the International Earth Rotation Service in February, will keep calendar time in close alignment with international time."

Addition of Leap Seconds

To allow for the slowing of the Earth, leap seconds are added to the international cosmic clocks every 18 months. The following are the past Leap Seconds recorded by the International Earth Rotation Service:

Jan. 1973
Jan. 1974
Jan. 1975
Jan. 1976
Jan. 1977
Jan. 1978
Jan. 1979
Jan. 1980
July 1981
July 1982
July 1983
July 1985
Jan. 1988
Jan. 1990
Jan. 1991
July 1992
July 1993
July 1994
Jan. 1996

Leap seconds are added approximately every 18 months.

If the Earth is only 6,000 years old, as the Bible says, there is no problem:
In the time of Adam the Earth was spinning slightly faster.
The 24 hour day would have elapsed slightly faster, but the difference would not be noticeable.
This may explain why the Babylonians had a 360 day year, instead of our current 365 day year.
If the Earth is billions of years old, as the Evolutionists claim, this would pose enormous problems.

The Earth would have been spinning much faster.
The 24 hour days would have been compressed into a few seconds only.
The Centrifugal Force would be a major problem.
Centrifugal force is that force that tends to maintain the direction of a moving object in the direction of its current movement.
If the Earth was billions of years old the Centrifugal force would be so high that everything and everyone would actually fly into space!
The winds would have been 5,000 miles per hour, due to the Coriolis Effect.
If the dinosaurs lived 200 million years ago they would have been blown away from the Earth!

http://www.finalfrontier.org.uk/index.php?main=3&sub=1&page=21

Spikedcylinder are you an atheist?

Sara j!! abi watin be ur name saf? since u believe watin common nun talk den u and the nun una no even think of even existing

wow,i came across so many rational reasonings why Biblical truths should be seen as fables and wat have you.but that goes to prove a point that the things of God are foolishness to the wise of this world.

@sara j,

Have you managed to complete the assignment I gave you on the dinosaurs? 

Since you are from Ireland click on the website of a former Roman Catholic priest from Ireland and see what he has to say about the RCC and how he had an encounter with the Lord Jesus Christ.  He said in an interview I watched last night that the standpoint of the RCC, which is theistic evolutionism is more deadly than evolutionism itself.

His name is Richard Bennett and you can read his testimony on his website: www.bereanbeacon.org

The bible can not and will not be a book written or inspired by God. if it were so then the book would have been written in all languages of the universe, not even this world(earth) and it would have been understood at a glance, without someperson's interpreting for another.

for truth sake God is universal, omni present, even when moses wrote account of Him. He did not originate along in Israel or was know onto Israel alone. He was know exactly at the time man had the consciousness of HIM, and not to a sect alone. The bible tells a story of a particular set of people here on earth, the Israelite's, a fork story, how they came into being, their culture and so on. Is like, when a yorubaman tells you that oduduwa climbed down from the sky to establish the Yoruba race, and so on. if you could believe that of the Israelite or the Jews, then you should also believe that of the Yoruba
The Romans where the one's that picked on the Christan's and propagated the story to the world, that's why today you see the Christian headquarters in Rome. As it were, if they had pick on any other religion at that era, it would have been the establish religion in the world today. Why did Romans picked on the Christan faith, was base on political reason, and it was done by emperor constantine.

The bible can not and will not be a book written or inspired by God. if it were so then the book would have been written in all languages of the universe, not even this world(earth) and it would have been understood at a glance, without someperson's interpreting for another.

for truth sake God is universal, omni present, even when moses wrote account of Him. He did not originate along in Israel or was know onto Israel alone. He was know exactly at the time man had the consciousness of HIM, and not to a sect alone. The bible tells a story of a particular set of people here on earth, the Israelite's, a fork story, how they came into being, their culture and so on. Is like, when a yorubaman tells you that oduduwa climbed down from the sky to establish the Yoruba race, and so on. if you could believe that of the Israelite or the Jews, then you should also believe that of the Yoruba
The Romans where the one's that picked on the Christan's and propagated the story to the world, that's why today you see the Christian headquarters in Rome. As it were, if they had pick on any other religion at that era, it would have been the establish religion in the world today. Why did Romans picked on the Christan faith, was base on political reason, and it was done by emperor constantine.

for the first time in a very long time i have read through every body responce to this thread!

OP is trying to castigate catholics. No nun will tell him or her such a thing because it's a blatant lie. How easy people get conned by gists on nairaland.

I wonder how "slave" came in, too. But isn't somebody a slave; servant? The good leader serves (Servant/slave) those whom he leads.

Jesus was even a servant/slave of his community.

Aloy.Emeka:

OP is trying to castigate catholics. No nun will tell him or her such a thing because it's a blatant lie. How easy people get conned by gists on nairaland.

Ask ~Lady~, who is a nun to be, she will confirm to you that the RCC sees the creation account of Genesis as a fable, myth or an allegory.

OLAADEGBU:

Ask ~Lady~, who is a nun to be, she will confirm to you that the RCC sees the creation account of Genesis as a fable, myth or an allergory.

genetic research kills the drivel of adam and eve very nicely. so they have every reason to see the story either as a myth, fable or an allegory.

there many things that cannot be fully understood. the secret things are left to God if you believe God exist. Don't let anyone deceive into being an aeist which is worst of.

@ OLAADEGBU : i have watched carefully as you have taken time to speak ill abt Catholics, What exactly is your problem? Did a catholic priest rape u as a child?

Watch a former Evolution scientist sharing his testimony on how the Lord opened his eyes to the glorious gospel of Jesus Christ showing now on a live broadcast on Genesis TV channel Sky 585, 592 or online if you can:

http://www.revelationtv.com/watchgen.php

http://www.revelationtv.com/watchrev.php

Hai Spikedcylinder you don spoil finish.
May the god in that picture forgive you o.

@amaikama

amaikama:

Sara j!! abi watin be ur name saf? since u believe watin common nun talk den u and the nun una no even think of even existing

we are told, the bible is the word of God. It is, therefore, proper for us to know who told us so, so that we may know what credit to give to the report.

The story is nothing other than an allegorical myth.The entire christian faith is based on "literalised" myth.

Mad_Max:

Hai Spikedcylinder you don spoil finish.
May the god in that picture forgive you o.

* tee hee hee*

The Adam and Eve story is an analogy. Nothing more.

Even the Bible itself is totally contradictory on the subject of the first man and woman:

1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

But hang on:

2:22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.


There is a school of thought that Eve was not Adam's first wife. The woman mentioned in 1:27 was the first woman.
They call her Lilith.

http://www.deliriumsrealm.com/delirium/articleview.asp?Post=177#sumerian

Either way, if even the Bible is inconsistent, how can one fanatically claim that Adam and Eve were the first people?

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, . . . And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

Romans 1:20-22,28

This is what happens to those have rejected the truth and have embraced a lie.