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Re: Amazing Statements By Muhammad: Hallucination Or Reality by Empiree: 11:17am On May 27, 2015 |
author=truthman2012 post=34137795]As usual, arrant nonsense What of the hadiths he made in the OP as islam prophet, are they any better?And what's the point of posting tafsir if you are not ready to concede like you just did above?. Waste of my glorious time. 3 Likes |
Re: Amazing Statements By Muhammad: Hallucination Or Reality by truthman2012(m): 11:43am On May 27, 2015 |
Empiree: Huummm! Everyone of you is dodging, complaining of time just because there is no defence available. 2 Likes |
Re: Amazing Statements By Muhammad: Hallucination Or Reality by Empiree: 12:01pm On May 27, 2015 |
truthman2012:Just show one concession you ever made on our counterclaims? 4 Likes |
Re: Amazing Statements By Muhammad: Hallucination Or Reality by truthman2012(m): 12:10pm On May 27, 2015 |
Empiree: When you defend your religion, are you doing it to convince me or the readers? If you are in a debate, will you try to convince your co-debators or the judges? |
Re: Amazing Statements By Muhammad: Hallucination Or Reality by Empiree: 12:29pm On May 27, 2015 |
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Re: Amazing Statements By Muhammad: Hallucination Or Reality by truthman2012(m): 12:45pm On May 27, 2015 |
Keep dodging deceiving your very self. Objective readers will have discovered islam is fraud. 2 Likes |
Re: Amazing Statements By Muhammad: Hallucination Or Reality by tartar9(m): 1:01pm On May 27, 2015 |
truthman2012:lmao,let me just assume this is as a result of your old age.you didn't see what you posted. |
Re: Amazing Statements By Muhammad: Hallucination Or Reality by truthman2012(m): 1:08pm On May 27, 2015 |
tartar9: Trash! 1 Like |
Re: Amazing Statements By Muhammad: Hallucination Or Reality by tartar9(m): 1:16pm On May 27, 2015 |
truthman2012:just trying to save ya *ss don't spoil it.re-read what you just posted,with your 1 Like |
Re: Amazing Statements By Muhammad: Hallucination Or Reality by malvisguy212: 1:29pm On May 27, 2015 |
tartar9:rubbish, all you have to do is so simple, explained the plurality(WE,US,OUR) in the quran, that all. I take my time and read the verse you quote from the quran, did Allah just mention trinity in the quran? This is strange, the bible did not made mention of trinity, then how could muhammed have known this? It is clear, muhammed learn all this from the christians during his time and it is also clear the bible that was used during muhammed time was the same with nowadays bible.my question was that , when was the bible corrupted? 2 Likes |
Re: Amazing Statements By Muhammad: Hallucination Or Reality by malvisguy212: 1:45pm On May 27, 2015 |
tartar9:what are you saying here? The talking donkey did not just start talk on his own. But muhammed say tree, hell talk to him and the tree even cry. Today is a christian say a tree talk to him and cry to him you will insult the christian and called many kind of name.I don't even know what to talk about the hell part, do you seriously believe hell could talk to muhammed? Were was him when hell talk to him? Certainly not in this life, he was in hell in the afterlife when hell speak to him. 1 Like |
Re: Amazing Statements By Muhammad: Hallucination Or Reality by tartar9(m): 1:54pm On May 27, 2015 |
malvisguy212:so if its yours,its a miracle,if its ours you call it hallucination.if yours saw Hell,its a vision but ours,thats when you start having problems with it smh.I don't even expect you to believe them,but trying to say they are impossible,is where the problem lies. 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Amazing Statements By Muhammad: Hallucination Or Reality by tartar9(m): 2:15pm On May 27, 2015 |
malvisguy212:what are you trying to say that it has never been explained or that it has been explained numerous times before but your feeble minds where too clouded by bigotry to entertain the thought of accepting defeat so it simply chose not to understand. 2 Likes |
Re: Amazing Statements By Muhammad: Hallucination Or Reality by truthman2012(m): 2:45pm On May 27, 2015 |
tartar9: You guys said you have no time to explain the hadiths because there is nothing you can say, but since yesterday you 've been having much time to say trash. Liars. 1 Like |
Re: Amazing Statements By Muhammad: Hallucination Or Reality by yazach: 2:59pm On May 27, 2015 |
@op! I have a question for you Is it possible for a tree to speak? |
Re: Amazing Statements By Muhammad: Hallucination Or Reality by truthman2012(m): 3:04pm On May 27, 2015 |
yazach: Why your question? I should ask you same question because it is your hadiths that say trees speak and cry like babies in islam. 1 Like |
Re: Amazing Statements By Muhammad: Hallucination Or Reality by malvisguy212: 3:09pm On May 27, 2015 |
tartar9:do me one favour, paste were it has been explained, you guys are unstable in explanation, different opinion, just as I say earlier, one muslim brother say the "we" was reffering to Allah and the heavenly host, but when I ask him if Allah and the heavenly host spirit descend on Mary? He did not answer, so my question still stand, I wan to hear your view, or are you afraid I will observe your lies? Don't be afraid, just explained it to me on your own understanding. 1 Like |
Re: Amazing Statements By Muhammad: Hallucination Or Reality by yazach: 3:13pm On May 27, 2015 |
truthman2012: Some Muslims like empiree, tartar, rilwain and other muslims claimed that you have little knowledge about your religion and the bible, please don't tell me what you stated above is a clear cut testimony to their claim |
Re: Amazing Statements By Muhammad: Hallucination Or Reality by malvisguy212: 3:20pm On May 27, 2015 |
tartar9:my friend,tree speak and cry is not a miracle but magic.tree speak to muhammed, did he command it to happened in God name?the issue here was that hell speak to muhammed,if it vision, the hadith would have say so right? It not a vision, then what is it? |
Re: Amazing Statements By Muhammad: Hallucination Or Reality by malvisguy212: 3:21pm On May 27, 2015 |
tartar9:my friend,tree speak and cry is not a miracle but magic.tree speak to muhammed, did he command it to happened in God name? the issue here was that hell speak to muhammed,if it vision, the hadith would have say so right? It not a vision, then what is it? |
Re: Amazing Statements By Muhammad: Hallucination Or Reality by truthman2012(m): 3:27pm On May 27, 2015 |
yazach: If they truly said so, they must have been hallucinating like their prophet, Muhammad. |
Re: Amazing Statements By Muhammad: Hallucination Or Reality by yazach: 3:38pm On May 27, 2015 |
malvisguy212:But since you agreed you don't know much about your own religion, why are you displaying the shame on the internet here is a verse in the book you believe that says trees speaks but you are denying it here. i will try to analyze it in your way the trees went forth to anoint a king over them, Trees anoint = hallucination by malvis and they said to the olive tree, ‘Reign over us!’ tree speaks in the bible, a christian(malvis) said it is hallucination 9“But the olive tree said to them, ‘Shall I leave my fatness with which God and men are honored and go to wave over the trees?’ , through fatness of a tree, God and Men are honored = blasphemy 10“Then the trees said to the fig tree, ‘You come, reign over us!’ 11“But the fig tree said to them, ‘Shall I leave my sweetness and my good fruit, and go to wave over the trees?’ 12“Then the trees said to the vine, ‘You come, reign over us!’ 13“But the vine said to them, ‘Shall I leave my new wine, which cheers God and men, and go to wave over the trees?’ when God is unhappy, he drinks wine of vine = blasphemy,stupidity, idiocy etc 14“Finally all the trees said to the bramble, ‘You come, reign over us!’ trees have kings = hallucination by malvis @malvisguy212, hope you now know your problem Let me help you: your problem is IGNORANCE OF THE HIGHEST ORDER 2 Likes |
Re: Amazing Statements By Muhammad: Hallucination Or Reality by malvisguy212: 3:43pm On May 27, 2015 |
yazach:the hadith the op quote does not looks like muhammed was seeing vision or performing miracle, infacte the first hadith say he was under a tree on Friday when tree speak, I believe this is nothing but demon possessed man seeing things because any miracle don was for the manifestation of God glory, but the hadith did not imply anything like that.tree speak was a magic attributed to different source of power. Any wonders don must be for the manifestation of God glory and through out the bible it was soo, there is NO place in the bible a man just stand and started seeing things, this is pure demonic. 1 Like |
Re: Amazing Statements By Muhammad: Hallucination Or Reality by truthman2012(m): 3:46pm On May 27, 2015 |
malvisguy212: These muslim guys don't know the difference between a miracle and magic. Allah himself confirm Muhammad was not given the power for miracle, then where did he get the power for it? Quran 13: 07 “And the Unbelievers say: "Why is not a sign sent down to him from his Lord?" But thou art truly a warner, and to every people a guide.” Allah said he was only a warner and not a miracle worker. Does a warner kill for people not heeding his warning? All along, the unbelievers asked Muhammad to perform a miracle so that they could believe. All they got in response was, Quran 17: 90 They say: "We shall not believe in thee, until thou cause a spring to gush forth for us from the earth, And he would reply: Qurajm 17: 93 Say: "Glory to my Lord! Am I aught but a man,- a messenger. A man, an ordinary man who could not do miracles. Quran 3: 138 They (also) said: "Allah took our promise not to believe in an messenger unless He showed us a sacrifice consumed by Fire (From heaven)." Say: "There came to you messengers before me, with clear Signs and even with what ye ask for: why then did ye slay them, if ye speak the truth?" if you are truthful? Hear what he said in the above verse because he couldn't perform miracles. Therefore, what tartar9 said are miracles are not but mere hallucinations. 1 Like |
Re: Amazing Statements By Muhammad: Hallucination Or Reality by malvisguy212: 3:47pm On May 27, 2015 |
yazach:what is this madness? I don't even understand what you are trying to say here, I will just ignore your insult and move on. |
Re: Amazing Statements By Muhammad: Hallucination Or Reality by malvisguy212: 3:51pm On May 27, 2015 |
truthman2012:excellent points, muhammed was a Warner, but how can a Warner killed people for not obeying his word? Satan will not allow them to differentiate between magic and miracle. God help us. 1 Like |
Re: Amazing Statements By Muhammad: Hallucination Or Reality by yazach: 4:17pm On May 27, 2015 |
malvisguy212:But since you agreed you don't know much about your own religion, why are you displaying the shame on the internet here is a verse in the book you believe that says trees speaks but you are denying it here. i will try to analyze it in your way the trees went forth to anoint a king over them, Trees anoint = hallucination by malvis and they said to the olive tree, ‘Reign over us!’ tree speaks in the bible, a christian(malvis) said it is hallucination 9“But the olive tree said to them, ‘Shall I leave my fatness with which God and men are honored and go to wave over the trees?’ , through fatness of a tree, God and Men are honored = blasphemy 10“Then the trees said to the fig tree, ‘You come, reign over us!’ 11“But the fig tree said to them, ‘Shall I leave my sweetness and my good fruit, and go to wave over the trees?’ 12“Then the trees said to the vine, ‘You come, reign over us!’ 13“But the vine said to them, ‘Shall I leave my new wine, which cheers God and men, and go to wave over the trees?’ when God is unhappy, he drinks wine of vine = blasphemy,stupidity, idiocy etc 14“Finally all the trees said to the bramble, ‘You come, reign over us!’ trees have kings = hallucination by malvis @malvisguy212, hope you now know your problem undecided undecided undecided undecided Let me help you: your problem is IGNORANCE OF THE HIGHEST ORDER |
Re: Amazing Statements By Muhammad: Hallucination Or Reality by yazach: 4:20pm On May 27, 2015 |
malvisguy212:But since you agreed you don't know much about your own religion, why are you displaying the shame on the internet here is a verse in the book you believe that says trees speaks but you are denying it here. i will try to analyze it in your way the trees went forth to anoint a king over them, Trees anoint = hallucination OR manifestation of God glory by malvis and they said to the olive tree, ‘Reign over us!’ tree speaks in the bible, a christian(malvis) said it is hallucination 9“But the olive tree said to them, ‘Shall I leave my fatness with which God and men are honored and go to wave over the trees?’ , through fatness of a tree, God and Men are honored = blasphemy, hallucination and manifestation of God glory by malvis 10“Then the trees said to the fig tree, ‘You come, reign over us!’ 11“But the fig tree said to them, ‘Shall I leave my sweetness and my good fruit, and go to wave over the trees?’ 12“Then the trees said to the vine, ‘You come, reign over us!’ 13“But the vine said to them, ‘Shall I leave my new wine, which cheers God and men, and go to wave over the trees?’ when God is unhappy, he drinks wine of vine to cheer up = blasphemy,stupidity, idiocy, manifestation of God glory etc by malvis 14“Finally all the trees said to the bramble, ‘You come, reign over us!’ trees have kings = hallucination and manifestation of God glory by malvis @malvisguy212, hope you now know your problem undecided undecided undecided undecided Let me help you: your problem is IGNORANCE OF THE HIGHEST ORDER |
Re: Amazing Statements By Muhammad: Hallucination Or Reality by tartar9(m): 4:54pm On May 27, 2015 |
malvisguy212:and yet again,yours is the miracle ours is the magic,did Balaam also command the donkey to speak?do you even know what magic is?can you tell me what charms, spells, or rituals He(SAW) did for you to decide it was magic. " And if they see a miracle they turn aside and say: Transient magic. They have denied the truth and followed their whims and desires, but everything has its time."(Qur'an, 54:2-3) 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Amazing Statements By Muhammad: Hallucination Or Reality by yazach: 5:04pm On May 27, 2015 |
tartar9: what an excellent response !!! I think it is netter said here that malvisguy212 is hallucinating 1 Like |
Re: Amazing Statements By Muhammad: Hallucination Or Reality by truthman2012(m): 5:09pm On May 27, 2015 |
tartar9: allahh was contradicting himself. Was he not the one who said Muhammad couldn't perform miracles as clearly stated up there? |
Re: Amazing Statements By Muhammad: Hallucination Or Reality by yazach: 5:18pm On May 27, 2015 |
truthman2012:I doubt it rather you should check your self because for you not to know that the bible mentioned that a tree speaks is a clear indication of your ignorance or hallucination But since you agreed you don't know much about your own religion, why are you displaying the shame on the internet here is a verse in the book you believe that says trees speaks but you are denying it here. i will try to analyze it in your way the trees went forth to anoint a king over them, Trees anoint = hallucination OR manifestation of God glory by truthman212 and they said to the olive tree, ‘Reign over us!’ tree speaks in the bible, a christian(malvis) said it is hallucination 9“But the olive tree said to them, ‘Shall I leave my fatness with which God and men are honored and go to wave over the trees?’ , through fatness of a tree, God and Men are honored = blasphemy, hallucination and manifestation of God glory by truthman212 10“Then the trees said to the fig tree, ‘You come, reign over us!’ 11“But the fig tree said to them, ‘Shall I leave my sweetness and my good fruit, and go to wave over the trees?’ 12“Then the trees said to the vine, ‘You come, reign over us!’ 13“But the vine said to them, ‘Shall I leave my new wine, which cheers God and men, and go to wave over the trees?’ when God is unhappy, he drinks wine of vine to cheer up = blasphemy,stupidity, idiocy, manifestation of God glory etc by truthman212 14“Finally all the trees said to the bramble, ‘You come, reign over us!’ trees have kings = hallucination and manifestation of God glory by truthman212 hope you now know your problem undecided undecided undecided undecided Let me help you: your problem is IGNORANCE OF THE HIGHEST ORDER |
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