Atheism   

An atheist was spending a quiet day fishing when suddenly his boat was attacked by the Loch Ness monster.  In one easy flip, the beast tossed him and his boat high into the air.  Then it opened its mouth to swallow both.

As the man sailed head over heels, he cried out,

"Oh, my God!  Help me!"

At once, the ferocious attack scene froze in place, and as the atheist hung in the mid air, a booming voice came down from the clouds,

"I thought you didn't believe in me!"

"Come on God, give me a break!"

the atheist pleaded.

"Two minutes ago I didn't believe in the Loch Ness monster either!"

OLAADEGBU:

God does not murder. Murder is the unlawful taking of life. God kills just as He has given the authority to human governments to exact capital punishments. Those who perished in Noah's Flood and Sodom and Gomorrah are examples where executed people according to His Law.
The text did not say God killed in the first place and it is your duty to find out the facts.
"It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter" (Proverbs 25:2).

OLAADEGBU:


Newsflash! The biblical text did not say that the thugs were killed so there's no need barking up the wrong tree.

OLAADEGBU:
God does not murder. Murder is the unlawful taking of life. God kills just as He has given the authority to human governments to exact capital punishments. Those who perished in Noah's Flood and Sodom and Gomorrah are examples where executed people according to His Law.

OLAADEGBU:
The text did not say God killed in the first place and it is your duty to find out the facts.

"It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter" (Proverbs 25:2).

theAtheist101:


But, he authorises the murder of "his son". Remind me of the law term that is used for people like him? I think, accessory!

theAtheist101:


Prove it!

MuttleyLaff:


Glad to read you know or acknowledge that God doesnt murder


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MuttleyLaff:


So why did you post "Why did God KILL 42 lads merely for saying Elisha was bald?"
You're even using one of my favourite verse (i.e. Proverbs 25:2)

Thank you for admiting "kill" is not found in 2 Kings 2:23-24
Thank you for being man enough to admit you inserted "kill" yourself into 2 Kings 2:23-24
So it's true you used a little poetic licence to embellish a good tale by adding the "kill" extra detail
Baba ooo!

OLAADEGBU:


Who is your god if not the Bible or Christian God?

OLAADEGBU:


Are you now accusing the God that you don't believe exists?




Read the text. The proof of the pudding is in the eating.

"Then he went up from there to Bethel; and as he was going up by the way, young lads came out from the city and mocked him and said to him, "Go up, you baldhead; go up, you baldhead!" When he looked behind him and saw them, he cursed them in the name of the LORD. Then two female bears came out of the woods and tore up forty-two lads of their number" (2 Kings 2:23-24)

OLAADEGBU:
As if you know the difference between killing and murdering.

OLAADEGBU:
And you did not notice this before you jumped to conclusion which is the only exercise some folks get to do nowadays.

Pr0ton:


This is why your answer doesn't work:

Punishment for violating the law in the OT was by stoning to death. Here is an example of a rude wayward child.

Deut 21

18 If someone has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him,19 his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town.20 They shall say to the elders, “This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard.”21 Then all the men of his town are to stone him to death.You must purge the evilfrom among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid.

Assumimg these boys violated the law, then they should have died by stoning. But this wasn't anything in connection to the law. Elisha with the support and assistance from God ordered bears to tear those lads because they (Elisha and God) chose to.

Second reason is because the lads weren't Jews, and the law could not have had effect on them. Rom 3:19 says the Law speaks to those under it. And Rom 4:16 says where there's no law, there is no sin. Hence, the lads were innocent in that aspect as they were not under the Jewish law. If we are to base on what the law says, then God and Elisha killed innocent kids.

ROSSIKE:


What an arrogant, ignorant and stup.id question. Are you unaware that monotheism predates christianity by a minimum of 50,000 years? Your very own ancestors, did they not believe in a Supreme Being? Do you know their belief predates your imported religion by several thousand years? Your ignorance stinks to high heavens.

theAtheist101:


But, you do? Am only applying reverse psychology!

theAtheist101:


At bolded: maybe, you're right. The boys might have been clothes that could have been easily stitched together. You're a genius, man! Keep it up. Am expecting to clap for you when you collect your Nobel price of "shit".

OLAADEGBU:


And you did not realise that I was begging the question?



That's what you get when you keep poking your nose into matters that doesn't concern you.

MuttleyLaff:


Let that rest. You cant teach granma how to suck eggs

MuttleyLaff:


At the expense of accuracy, it is an irresponsible and incorrigible behavior to insert texts or words (e.g. KILL) not found in 2 Kings 2:23-24 for sensationalism sake.

MuttleyLaff:


Why did God kill 42 lads merely for saying Elisha was bald?

"Then he went up from there to Bethel; and as he was going up by the way, young lads came out from the city and mocked him and said to him, "Go up, you baldhead; go up, you baldhead!" When he looked behind him and saw them, he cursed them in the name of the LORD. Then two female bears came out of the woods and tore up forty-two lads of their number" (2 Kings 2:23-24)

Why would God allow two bears to kill 42 young lads simply for saying Elisha was bald?

delishpot:



Rude lads that is what happens to lads who are rude.

theAtheist101:


A good way to show ignorance.

OLAADEGBU:
As long as you are not licking lager.

OLAADEGBU:
Quit the potation. Where did I insert words into the text?

OLAADEGBU:
Don't tell me you're temulent.

OLAADEGBU:
How was the loaded question inserted into the text you quoted here?

MuttleyLaff:


I do take the occasional pint or two now and then

MuttleyLaff:


In your original post
KILL in your original post is nowhere found in 2 Kings 2:23-24

MuttleyLaff:


I am only but only the Ephesians 5:18 type

MuttleyLaff:


I think I am beginning to understand how or why you open up threads
Maybe if you had done your KILL like this "kill", others will know what you are on to

OLAADEGBU:


Could their be a better way to show nescience other than the depiction below?

theAtheist101:


Cool.

Look below, that is me querying you.


.... And a follow-up image.

Keep calm -- I understand your frustration in explaining a lie.

theAtheist101:


Cool.

Look below, that is me querying you.


.... And a follow-up image.

Keep calm -- I understand your frustration in explaining a lie.

Image123:


So, why were they killed? The unbelievers just continued with their frustration. i can't tell what's pissing them more, that the boys were killed or that only two bears came.

OLAADEGBU:


Hi image123, do you believe those thugs were killed?

CHARLOE:


@ OP, Can't u see, it never happened! will 42 kids be standing by while 2 bears tear them apart? won't they run? @ most, d bears will kill 4-7 and injure less dan 10, but 42, haba! It's a tale, it never happened. Am a xtian, never belived d bible was tampered with, but now i know better. was blind, but now i see, was asleep but now awake!

Image123:


Lol, i was simply amused at the behaviour of the unbelievers. They seemed quite confused and annoyed about everything from the number of bears, to who the bears killed.

2Ki 2:24 And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tore forty and two children of them.

Surely, 42 of the thugs got torn. i believe they were killed. Maybe others were injured only, but these 42 were not that spared. They were cursed. Cars for instance and heavy vehicles run into people accidentally and kill many. i wonder why people do not ask silly questions like can't they run away. Apart from curse which itself pits one at a huge disadvantage and abnormality, sudden pandemonium and appearance of two ferocious bears can freeze hearts, make people stumble on one another etc. The bears simply need to trample on and disturb their flight, then come back to tear the wounded. It's good we don't walk in the midst of thugs so that we don't get unfortunate like these ones did.

johnw74:


Mat 18:10 Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven.

Little ones here is child like believers

Mat 18:6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

If you offend one of God's little ones, and God's Angels see the hurt on God's face >>>

then look out!

OLAADEGBU:
Why did God "kill" 42 lads merely for saying Elisha was bald?

"Then he went up from there to Bethel; and as he was going up by the way, young lads came out from the city and mocked him and said to him, "Go up, you baldhead; go up, you baldhead!" When he looked behind him and saw them, he cursed them in the name of the LORD. Then two female bears came out of the woods and tore up forty-two lads of their number" (2 Kings 2:23-24)

Why would God allow two bears to "kill" 42 young lads simply for saying Elisha was bald?

OLAADEGBU:


Suggested answer.

https://carm.org/why-did-god-kill-42-lads-merely-saying-elisha-was-bald?platform=hootsuite

OLAADEGBU:


Suggested answer.

https://carm.org/why-did-god-kill-42-lads-merely-saying-elisha-was-bald?platform=hootsuite