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Re: Why Did God "Kill" 42 Lads Merely For Saying Elisha Was Bald? by johnydon22(m): 5:46pm On May 28, 2015 |
Scholar8200: And so the bears acting under preternatural influences had the speed of light that enabled them get 42, how come they never got all of them then or are the other boys not under the curse too? It is very clear that 42boys wouldn't stick around for some bears to maul them, in fact a commotion will even make things harder for the bears as the boys would all scatter in different directions. For one man overpowering 7, am sure the verse never said he overpowered 42 or mauled them. . . Just escaped them and fled the house. . How would you reconcile this with 2 bears mauling 42children 4 Likes |
Re: Why Did God "Kill" 42 Lads Merely For Saying Elisha Was Bald? by Scholar8200(m): 6:00pm On May 28, 2015 |
johnydon22:He did not maul them; he overwhelmed them. Note the violence displayed by the two examples given. The stones and natural strength of animals exceed that of man how much more when preternatural influences are involved. |
Re: Why Did God "Kill" 42 Lads Merely For Saying Elisha Was Bald? by johnydon22(m): 6:12pm On May 28, 2015 |
Scholar8200: So i just read about the sloth bear and it never told us if the attack happened in one single strike. . . it never stipulated if the attacks happened through out the duration of it's life before it was finally shot by Kenneth Anderson... Now the elisha bears mauled 42 boys dead in one single fatal strike (event) that is 21boys for each bear? And someone believe this? Like WTF |
Re: Why Did God "Kill" 42 Lads Merely For Saying Elisha Was Bald? by johnydon22(m): 6:17pm On May 28, 2015 |
Scholar8200: Lmao... And a scenario were 1man overpowered and escaped from 7 men, who doesnt see that shiit everyday. is now likened to one were 42boys are being mauled by just 2bears who supposedly acting under the influence of preternatural ability that somehow made them superspeed enough to maul down 42boys, and the boy was supposed have stood there and watched?. . . For crying out loud their is no way these boys would have stood there and watched, how exactly can 2 bears tie down 42boys from escaping them. |
Re: Why Did God "Kill" 42 Lads Merely For Saying Elisha Was Bald? by OYAY(m): 6:19pm On May 28, 2015 |
Scholar8200 you really shows your depth of the scripture and knowledge about God as Johnydon22 and theatheist101 are looking at God's working principle literarily;God sometimes work in a way that is beyond human comprehension take the case of of israelites walking on a dry land in the red sea and Jesus walking on the sea! It is the holy spirit that explains God's way to human hence he said in John4:23-24 that those that will worship him will does so in spirit and the truth. So his way is not man way,hence some things look impossible before man but easily possible with God. |
Re: Why Did God "Kill" 42 Lads Merely For Saying Elisha Was Bald? by johnydon22(m): 6:31pm On May 28, 2015 |
^^^ Dude above me OYAY.. Yeah those mythologies; Sea dividing, Jesus walking on water, muhammed splitting the moon, hercules helping atlas hold up the earth. that is what we don't exactly believe. . . Tho we recognize they are all colourful interesting mythologies from a very imaginative mind. . 6 Likes |
Re: Why Did God "Kill" 42 Lads Merely For Saying Elisha Was Bald? by Scholar8200(m): 6:33pm On May 28, 2015 |
johnydon22:It was the 7 men , not the possessed man, that ran away naked after being dealt with by the possessed man. 1 Like |
Re: Why Did God "Kill" 42 Lads Merely For Saying Elisha Was Bald? by Scholar8200(m): 6:40pm On May 28, 2015 |
johnydon22:On the contrary, the seven men fled unclad from the possessed man who had overpowered them. |
Re: Why Did God "Kill" 42 Lads Merely For Saying Elisha Was Bald? by johnydon22(m): 6:45pm On May 28, 2015 |
Scholar8200: Ok a possessed man over powered 7 guys and that you think is unnatural? lol... it practically happens. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfkE4EKNbwk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9AYKXkTFB0&itct=CAYQpDAYCiITCP3f2pP95MUCFYRIGAodVRcA6DIHcmVsYXRlZEiJ3rWUhJzB_M0B&hl=en&gl=NG&client=mv-google https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny9f_uxE48w&itct=CBsQpDAYAyITCOTF8r_95MUCFcSnHAodxzoAUjIHcmVsYXRlZEidqMzIl4WG6Hs%3D&gl=NG&client=mv-google&hl=en https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9AYKXkTFB0&itct=CBUQpDAYBSITCO7Rpdv95MUCFURkHAodNPsA9DIHcmVsYXRlZEjMx5Pi7v_Xl58B&client=mv-google&hl=en&gl=NG https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTnh8EYmb80&itct=CCEQpDAYASITCNDSiu795MUCFYmHGAodrEEAtDIHcmVsYXRlZEidqMzIl4WG6Hs%3D&client=mv-google&hl=en&gl=NG All these are scenarios of one man beating up many. . . Their is nothing preternatural about them like you would have us think, these are rare but yet common occurrences. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Did God "Kill" 42 Lads Merely For Saying Elisha Was Bald? by Scholar8200(m): 6:46pm On May 28, 2015 |
johnydon22:I removed the Sloth bear story since the timing was not specified. |
Re: Why Did God "Kill" 42 Lads Merely For Saying Elisha Was Bald? by Scholar8200(m): 6:48pm On May 28, 2015 |
OYAY:Thanks for your input. |
Re: Why Did God "Kill" 42 Lads Merely For Saying Elisha Was Bald? by johnydon22(m): 6:48pm On May 28, 2015 |
Scholar8200: Good then, yet again it still boils down to the possibility of 2bears mauling 42boys in a single strike. . which you have failed to substantiate or demonstrate to us how plausible this can be. 4 Likes |
Re: Why Did God "Kill" 42 Lads Merely For Saying Elisha Was Bald? by scaler345: 8:20pm On May 28, 2015 |
Anybody dat believes in a talking snake, a loquacious donkey, a virgin giving birth .... heck, a horde of dead folks rising up and parading d street could believe anything! 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Did God "Kill" 42 Lads Merely For Saying Elisha Was Bald? by Nobody: 12:23am On May 29, 2015 |
OYAY: It's all part of the lies the Jews wrote to scare their enemies! 1 Like |
Re: Why Did God "Kill" 42 Lads Merely For Saying Elisha Was Bald? by Nobody: 1:17am On May 29, 2015 |
Scholar8200: Sorry, I forgot you believe that a snake can talk, that Moses parted the Red Sea (!) with a stick, the same Moses used his stick to break a rock, and that the death of someone can cleanse you of your atrocities. Why wouldn't you believe two bears with an average speed of 30 mph can kill 42 young boys with an average speed of 14 mph each . I wouldn't want to waste my time writing mathematical proofs to someone who has no regards for empirical reasoning. Stoning from over 42 children would kill these bears! The smallest of stones would inflict a damaging injury on these animals. But, yet again, you would claim god must have given these bears supernatural power to withstand the impacts from the stones. Then, I wonder why god/Elisha didn't just kill these kids directly without troubling his "super-bears". Note: The higher the number of boys the lesser the chance of these bears to come out of the attack alive. 3 Likes |
Re: Why Did God "Kill" 42 Lads Merely For Saying Elisha Was Bald? by Scholar8200(m): 7:17am On May 29, 2015 |
theAtheist101:Alright. |
Re: Why Did God "Kill" 42 Lads Merely For Saying Elisha Was Bald? by ayoku777(m): 11:22am On May 29, 2015 |
theAtheist101: You really don't understand what a curse is; that's why you think it is impossible for a curse to make just two bears kill 42 people. A curse is the opposite of a blessing. What is a blessing? To be blessed is to be supernaturally empowered to prosper. When you're blessed, everything (physical, spiritual, natural and material) is supernaturally empowered to work for you and help you prosper. Now, the exact opposite is the meaning of a curse. A curse is when everything is supernaturally empowered to work against you or make you fail. Remember how an angel removed the wheels of the Chariot of the armies of Pharoah, so that they could not run out of the sea that was about closing up on them. (Exodus 14v24-25). Those are how a curse works against someone. If the children are under an active curse, they can't escape from the bears even if they tried; and they can't fight them even if they tried. The curse could keep them tripping over a stone that is not there. The spirit of fear could possess the kids and make them freeze. Not to talk of the bears too being possessed with strange speed to chase after the kids or strange strenght to kill with a single blow or any other thing. Trust me; under a curse from someone like Elisha; a prophet with the double portion of the spirit of Elijah, even a lizard can maul a human being like a grown crocodile. That's why it is a curse. It is not ordinary. Something is being supernaturally empowered to make you fail. Everything comes together to work against you with supernatural assistance. You're trying to rationalize the supernatural effect of a curse using scientific empirical methods. That will only make you go in circles and then you will conclude that the incident is a myth and can't be true. A curse is supernatural. To be cursed is for things to be supernaturally empowered to work against you. When you understand that; you will understand that a curse can make 2 bears kill 42 lads easily -especially a curse from someone whose authority is from God. God bless. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Did God "Kill" 42 Lads Merely For Saying Elisha Was Bald? by Nobody: 1:59pm On May 29, 2015 |
ayoku777: No no! You are very wrong! It was actually the boys that cursed Elisha to be illusive. Remember that god loves children, so he gave them that power to deceive that wicked man people called Elisha. Elisha then went to recount his false vision. The reason Elisha couldn't recollect the actual number of boys that mocked him was because the curse was still active. That actually how curses were designed by Yakunde (the God of the Multiverse!). Everything we both wrote is fallacy! Do a qualitative experiment on the workings of curses, then we would take you seriously. Lucifer bless! 2 Likes |
Re: Why Did God "Kill" 42 Lads Merely For Saying Elisha Was Bald? by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:44am On Jun 16, 2015 |
Scholar8200: Well said. |
Re: Why Did God "Kill" 42 Lads Merely For Saying Elisha Was Bald? by Scholar8200(m): 9:52am On Jun 16, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU:Glory to God and Father of Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ |
Re: Why Did God "Kill" 42 Lads Merely For Saying Elisha Was Bald? by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:00am On Jun 16, 2015 |
Scholar8200: Amen! I still insist that it was God that killed the 42 lads not Elisha. |
Re: Why Did God "Kill" 42 Lads Merely For Saying Elisha Was Bald? by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:02am On Jun 16, 2015 |
ayoku777: Why did God kill 42 lads merely for saying Elisha was bald? It was God that sent the bears not Elisha. Read the article below. Elisha’s Bears |
Re: Why Did God "Kill" 42 Lads Merely For Saying Elisha Was Bald? by davien(m): 10:06am On Jun 16, 2015 |
Why would elisha resort to killing anyone?...Did it teach anyone any moral lesson?...does that mean I can smash kids heads in when offended? |
Re: Why Did God "Kill" 42 Lads Merely For Saying Elisha Was Bald? by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:11am On Jun 16, 2015 |
davien: Who told you that Elisha killed any kid? |
Re: Why Did God "Kill" 42 Lads Merely For Saying Elisha Was Bald? by MuttleyLaff: 10:12am On Jun 16, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU:Does God "kill" or is it a case of God allows death prevail? Or a case of the latter where, God gives one up to the whims of death or the grim reaper. Do you seriously or really believe God kills or God murders? If yes, how does He kill, how does He murder? |
Re: Why Did God "Kill" 42 Lads Merely For Saying Elisha Was Bald? by davien(m): 10:15am On Jun 16, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU:Who gave the curse?.....and who didn't tell "god" to spare them for they knew not what they were doing? |
Re: Why Did God "Kill" 42 Lads Merely For Saying Elisha Was Bald? by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:27am On Jun 16, 2015 |
MuttleyLaff: Both are the case. This is what our Lord Jesus said about whom to fear. "But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear Him, which after he has killed has power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear Him" (Luke 12:5). MuttleyLaff: God kills but does not murder. Read the verse quoted above to see how. |
Re: Why Did God "Kill" 42 Lads Merely For Saying Elisha Was Bald? by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:30am On Jun 16, 2015 |
davien: Elisha pronounced the curse against those thugs and God had to honour His Word that says "the wages of sin is death". |
Re: Why Did God "Kill" 42 Lads Merely For Saying Elisha Was Bald? by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:38am On Jun 16, 2015 |
Pr0ton: This is where you err. Those guys were not kids they were thugs. The OT says the soul that sins shall die (Ezekiel 18:20) either you are a Jew or Gentile. God had the thugs killed according to the Law. |
Re: Why Did God "Kill" 42 Lads Merely For Saying Elisha Was Bald? by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:43am On Jun 16, 2015 |
Scholar8200: Good job. 1 Like |
Re: Why Did God "Kill" 42 Lads Merely For Saying Elisha Was Bald? by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:03am On Jun 16, 2015 |
theAtheist101: Why don't you summon up your fellow thugs and then test the strength of two grizzly bears to find out whether its a lie? See the video clip below for an idea of the strength of the average bear. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38q2fDtDDvM |
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