This is a very simple question to answer. His wife was one of his sisters. We can see, by comparing the story of Cain to that of Seth in terms of time-frame, that this is Biblically plausible. Seth was 105 when Enos was born, and Enos was 90 when Cainan was born. The 4th verse of chapter five says that Adam lived 800 years after the birth of Seth and begat sons and daughters. Apparently Adam and Eve had quite a few children and at least some of them were daughters. It is interesting that the Bible rarely if ever records the birth of women.

It is very possible, then, seeing that Cain and Abel were grown when their conflict is recorded, that daughters had been born to Adam and Eve in the intervening years. One of them may have sided with Cain in his feud with Abel and with God and followed him into the land of Nod. Or perhaps Eve sent one of her daughters to Cain so that he would not be alone in the world. From the early verses of chapter five it is more likely, given as long as people lived in those days and as old as men were before they began to have children, that his wife was one of the daughters that was born after the birth of Seth; one who went looking for her brother for whatever reason.

Anthropologically speaking, it is altogether acceptable-indeed it is inevitable- that the first sons would have married sisters. There would have been no one else for them to marry. A race could not begin with an original pair and propagate if brothers and sisters did not mate. And let it be clear that one would not avoid this consideration if he adopted some other idea of origins. Somewhere the original pair of humans had to appear. In order for them to multiply there would have to be domestic cohabitation between brothers and sisters.

Question for the god's

Don't know why this question has been trending both online and offline.
Well I senior friend told me it is written in the Quran that Adam and Eve had 13 twins, making 26 children in all. So cain married one of his sisters.
I am not a muslim but so I was told.

Cain's wife was obviously his sister.

uboma:
Cain's wife was obviously his sister.

No other logical explanation

its in the bible,can't really remember where.it should be in one of these hallowed verses;
EX 17:13 With the Lord's approval, Joshua mows
down Amalek and his people. EX 21:20-21 With
the Lord's approval, a slave may be beaten to
death with no punishment for the perpetrator as
long as the slave doesn't die too quickly. EX
32:27 "Put every man his sword by his side, and
go in and out from gate to gate throughout the
camp, and slay every man his brother, and every
man his companion, and every man his neighbor.
EX 32:27-29 With the Lord's approval, the
Israelites slay 3000 men. LE 26:7-8 The Lord
promises the Israelites that, if they are obedient,
their enemies will "fall before your sword." LE
26:22 "I will also send wild beasts among you,
which shall rob you of your children." LE 26:29 ,
DT 28:53 , JE 19:9 , EZ 5:8-10 As a punishment,
the Lord will cause people to eat the flesh of their
own sons and daughters and fathers and friends.
LE 27:29 Human sacrifice is condoned. (Note: An
example is given in JG 11:30-39 ) NU 11:33 The
Lord smites the people with a great plague. NU
12:1-10 God makes Miriam a leper for seven days
because she and Aaron had spoken against
Moses. NU 15:32-36 A Sabbath breaker (who had
gathered sticks for a fire) is stoned to death at
the Lord's command. NU 16:27-33 The Lord
causes the earth to open and swallow up the men
and their households (including wives and
children) because the men had been rebellious.
NU 16:35 A fire from the Lord consumes 250
men. NU 16:49 A plague from the Lord kills
14,700 people. NU 21:3 The Israelites utterly
destroy the Canaanites. NU 21:6 Fiery serpents,
sent by the Lord, kill many Israelites. NU 21:35
With the Lord's approval, the Israelites slay Og "...
and his sons and all his people, until there was
not one survivor left ...." NU 25:4 (KJV) "And the
Lord said unto Moses, take all the heads of the
people, and hang them up before the Lord against
the sun ...." NU 25:8 "He went after the man of
Israel into the tent, and thrust both of them
through, the man of Israel, and the woman
through her belly." NU 25:9 24,000 people die in a
plague from the Lord. NU 31:9 The Israelites
capture Midianite women and children. NU
31:17-18 Moses, following the Lord's command,
orders the Israelites to kill all the Midianite male
children and "... every woman who has known
man ...." (Note: How would it be determined
which women had known men? One can only
speculate.) NU 31:31-40 32,000 virgins are taken
by the Israelites as booty. Thirty-two are set
aside (to be sacrificed?) as a tribute for the Lord.
DT 2:33-34 The Israelites utterly destroy the men,
women, and children of Sihon. DT 3:6 The
Israelites utterly destroy the men, women, and
children of Og. DT 7:2 The Lord commands the
Israelites to "utterly destroy" and show "no mercy"
to those whom he gives them for defeat. DT
20:13-14 "When the Lord delivers it into your
hand, put to the sword all the males .... As for
the women, the children, the livestock and
everything else in the city, you may take these as
plunder for yourselves." DT 20:16 "In the cities of
the nations the Lord is giving you as an
inheritance, do not leave alive anything that
breathes." DT 21:10-13 With the Lord's approval,
the Israelites are allowed to take "beautiful
women" from the enemy camp to be their captive
wives. If, after sexual relations, the husband has
"no delight" in his wife, he can simply let her go.
DT 28:53 "You will eat the fruit of the womb, the
flesh of the sons and daughters the Lord your
God has given you." JS 1:1-9 , 18 Joshua receives
the Lord's blessing for all the bloody endeavors to
follow. JS 6:21-27 With the Lord's approval,
Joshua destroys the city of Jericho--men, women,
and children--with the edge of the sword. JS
7:19-26 Achan, his children and his cattle are
stoned to death because Achan had taken a
taboo thing. JS 8:22-25 With the Lord's approval,
Joshua utterly smites the people of Ai, killing
12,000 men and women, so that there were none
who escaped. JS 10:10-27 With the help of the
Lord, Joshua utterly destroys the Gibeonites. JS
10:28 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly
destroys the people of Makkedah. JS 10:30 With
the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the
Libnahites. JS 10:32-33 With the Lord's approval,
Joshua utterly destroys the people of Lachish. JS
10:34-35 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly
destroys the Eglonites. JS 10:36-37 With the
Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the
Hebronites. JS 10:38-39 With the Lord's approval,
Joshua utterly destroys the Debirites. JS 10:40 (A
summary statement.) "So Joshua defeated the
whole land ...; he left none remaining, but
destroyed all that breathed, as the Lord God of
Israel commanded." JS 11:6 The Lord orders
horses to be hamstrung. (Exceedingly cruel.) JS
11:8-15 "And the lord gave them into the hand of
Israel, ...utterly destroying them; there was none
left that breathed ...." JS 11:20 "For it was the
Lord's doing to harden their hearts that they
should come against Israel in battle, in order that
they should be utterly destroyed, and should
receive no mercy but be exterminated, as the Lord
commanded Moses." JS 11:21-23 Joshua utterly
destroys the Anakim. JG 1:4 With the Lord's
support, Judah defeats 10,000 Canaanites at
Bezek. JG 1:6 With the Lord's approval, Judah
pursues Adoni-bezek, catches him, and cuts off
his thumbs and big toes. JG 1:8 With the Lord's
approval, Judah smites Jerusalem. JG 1:17 With
the Lord's approval, Judah and Simeon utterly
destroy the Canaanites who inhabited Zephath.
JG 3:29 The Israelites kill about 10,000 Moabites.
JG 3:31 (A restatement.) Shamgar killed 600
Philistines with an oxgoad. JG 4:21 Jael takes a
tent stake and hammers it through the head of
Sisera, fastening it to the ground. JG 7:19-25 The
Gideons defeat the Midianites, slay their princes,
cut off their heads, and bring the heads back to
Gideon. JG 8:15-21 The Gideons slaughter the
men of Penuel. JG 9:5 Abimalech murders his
brothers. JG 9:45 Abimalech and his men kill all
the people in the city. JG 9:53-54 "A woman
dropped a stone on his head and cracked his
skull. Hurriedly he called to his armor-bearer,
'Draw your sword and kill me, so that they can't
say a woman killed me.' So his servant ran him
through, and he died." JG 11:29-39 Jepthah
sacrifices his beloved daughter, his only child,
according to a vow he has made with the Lord.
JG 14:19 The Spirit of the Lord comes upon a
man and causes him to slay thirty men. JG 15:15
Samson slays 1000 men with the jawbone of an
ass. JG 16:21 The Philistines gouge out
Samson's eyes. JG 16:27-30 Samson, with the
help of the Lord, pulls down the pillars of the
Philistine house and causes his own death and
that of 3000 other men and women. JG 18:27
The Danites slay the quiet and unsuspecting
people of Laish. JG 19:22-29 A group of sexual
depraved men beat on the door of an old man's
house demanding that he turn over to them a
male house guest. Instead, the old man offers his
virgin daughter and his guest's concubine (or
wife): "Behold, here are my virgin daughter and
his concubine; let me bring them out now. Ravish
them and do with them what seems good to you;
but against this man do not do so vile a thing."
The man's concubine is ravished and dies. The
man then cuts her body into twelve pieces and
sends one piece to each of the twelve tribes of
Israel. JG 20:43-48 The Israelites smite 25,000+
"men of valor" from amongst the Benjamites,
"men and beasts and all that they found," and set
their towns on fire. JG 21:10-12 "... Go and smite
the inhabitants of Jabesh-gilead with the edge of
the sword and; also the women and little ones....
every male and every woman that has lain with a
male you shall utterly destroy." They do so and
find four hundred young virgins whom they bring
back for their own use. 1SA 4:10 The Philistines
slay 30,000 Israelite foot soldiers. 1SA 5:6-9 The
Lord afflicts the Philistines with tumors in their
"secret parts," presumably for having stolen the
Ark. 1SA 6:19 God kills seventy men (or so) for
looking into the Ark (at him?). (Note: The early
Israelites apparently thought the Ark to be God's
abode.) 1SA 7:7-11 Samuel and his men smite
the Philistines. 1SA 11:11 With the Lord's
blessing, Saul and his men cut down the
Ammonites. 1SA 14:31 Jonathan and his men
strike down the Philistines. 1SA 14:48 Saul smites
the Amalekites. 1SA 15:3 , 7-8 "This is what the
Lord says: Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly
destroy all that they have; do not spare them, but
kill both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox
and sheep, camel and ass ....' And Saul ... utterly
destroyed all the people with the edge of the
sword." 1SA 15:33 "Samuel hewed Agag in pieces
before the Lord ...." 1SA 18:7 The women sing as
they make merry: "Saul has slain his thousands
and David his ten thousands." 1SA 27:8-11 "David
left neither man nor woman alive ....". (Note: This
implies that children and infants were included in
the slaughter.) 1SA 30:17 David smites the
Amalekites. 2SA 2:23 Abner kills Asahel. 2SA 3:30
Joab and Abishai kill Abner. 2SA 4:7-8 Rechan
and Baanah kill Ish-bosheth, behead him, and take
his head to David. 2SA 4:12 David has Rechan
and Baanah killed, their hands and feet cut off,
and their bodies hanged by the pool at Hebron.
2SA 5:25 "And David did as the Lord commanded
him, and smote the Philistines ...." 2SA 6:2-23
Because she rebuked him for having exposed
himself, Michal (David's wife) was barren
throughout her life. 2SA 8:1-18 (A listing of some
of David's murderous conquests.) 2SA 8:4 David
hamstrung all but a few of the horses. 2SA 8:5
David slew 22,000 Syrians. 2SA 8:6 , 14 "The Lord
gave victory to David wherever he went." 2SA
8:13 David slew 18,000 Edomites in the valley of
salt and made the rest slaves. 2SA 10:18 David
slew 47,000+ Syrians. 2SA 11:14-27 David has
Uriah killed so that he can marry Uriah's wife,
Bathsheba. 2SA 12:1 , 19 The Lord strikes David's
child dead for the sin that David has committed.
2SA 13:1-15 Amnon loves his sister Tamar, rapes
her, then hates her. 2SA 13:28-29 Absalom has
Amnon murdered. 2SA 18:6 -7 20,000 men are
slaughtered at the battle in the forest of Ephraim.
2SA 18:15 Joab's men murder Absalom. 2SA
20:10-12 Joab's men murder Amasa and leave
him "... wallowing in his own blood in the
highway. And anyone who came by, seeing him,
stopped." 2SA 24:15 The Lord sends a pestilence
on Israel that kills 70,000 men. 1KI 2:24-25
Solomon has Adonijah murdered. 1KI 2:29-34
Solomon has Joab murdered. 1KI 2:46 Solomon
has Shime-i murdered. 1KI 13:15-24 A man is
killed by a lion for eating bread and drinking
water in a place where the Lord had previously
told him not to. This is in spite of the fact that
the man had subsequently been lied to by a
prophet who told the man that an angel of the
Lord said that it would be alright to eat and drink
there. 1KI 20:29-30 The Israelites smite 100,000
Syrian soldiers in one day. A wall falls on 27,000
remaining Syrians. 2KI 1:10-12 Fire from heaven
comes down and consumes fifty men. 2KI
2:23-24 Forty-two children are mauled and killed,
presumably according to the will of God, for
having jeered at a man of God. 2KI 5:27 Elisha
curses Gehazi and his descendants forever with
leprosy. 2KI 6:18-19 The Lord answers Elisha's
prayer and strikes the Syrians with blindness.
Elisha tricks the blind Syrians and leads them to
Samaria. 2KI 6:29 "So we cooked my son and ate
him. The next day I said to her, 'Give up your son
so we may eat him,' but she had hidden him." 2KI
9:24 Jehu tricks and murders Joram. 2KI 9:27
Jehu has Ahaziah killed. 2KI 9:30-37 Jehu has
Jezebel killed. Her body is trampled by horses.
Dogs eat her flesh so that only her skull, feet,
and the palms of her hands remain. 2KI 10:7
Jehu has Ahab's seventy sons beheaded, then
sends the heads to their father. 2KI 10:14 Jehu
has forty-two of Ahab's kin killed. 2KI 10:17 "And
when he came to Samaria, he slew all that
remained to Ahab in Samaria, till he had wiped
them out, according to the word of the Lord ...."
2KI 10:19-27 Jehu uses trickery to massacre the
Baal worshippers. 2KI 11:1 Athaliah destroys all
the royal family. 2KI 14:5 , 7 Amaziah kills his
servants and then 10,000 Edomites. 2KI 15:3-5
Even though he did what was right in the eyes of
the Lord, the Lord smites Azariah with leprosy for
not having removed the "high places." 2KI 15:16
Menahem ripped open all the women who were
pregnant. 2KI 19:35 An angel of the Lord kills
185,000 men. 1CH 20:3 (KJV) "And he brought
out the people that were in it, and cut them with
saws, and with harrows of iron, and with axes."
2CH 13:17 500,000 Israelites are slaughtered.
2CH 21:4 Jehoram slays all his brothers. PS
137:9 Happy will be the man who dashes your
little ones against the stones. PS 144:1 God is
praised as the one who trains hands for war and
fingers for battle. IS 13:15 "Everyone who is
captured will be thrust through; all who are
caught will fall by the sword. Their infants will be
dashed to pieces before their eyes; their ... wives
will be ravished." IS 13:18 "Their bows also shall
dash the young men to pieces; and they shall
have no pity on the fruit of the womb; their eye
shall not spare children." IS 14:21-22 "Prepare
slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their
fathers." IS 49:26 The Lord will cause the
oppressors of the Israelite's to eat their own flesh
and to become drunk on their own blood as with
wine. JE 16:4 "They shall die grievous deaths;
they shall not be lamented; neither shall they be
buried; but they shall be as dung upon the face
of the earth: and they shall be consumed by the
sword, and by famine; and their carcasses shall
be meat for the fowls of heaven, and for the
beasts of the earth." LA 4:9-10 "Those slain by
the sword are better off than those who die of
famine; racked with hunger, they waste away for
lack of food. ... pitiful women have cooked their
own children, who became their food ..." EZ
6:12-13 The Lord says: "... they will fall by the
sword, famine and plague. He that is far away
will die of the plague, and he that is near will fall
by the sword, and he that survives and is spared
will die of famine. So will I spend my wrath upon
them. And they will know I am the Lord, when the
people lie slain among their idols around their
altars, on every high hill and on all the
mountaintops, under every spreading tree and
every leafy oak ...." EZ 9:4-6 The Lord commands:
"... slay old men outright, young men and
maidens, little children and women ...." EZ 20:26
In order that he might horrify them, the Lord
allowed the Israelites to defile themselves
through, amongst other things, the sacrifice of
their first-born children. EZ 21:3-4 The Lord says
that he will cut off both the righteous and the
wicked that his sword shall go against all flesh.
EZ 23:25 , 47 God is going to slay the sons and
daughters of those who were whores. EZ 23:34
"You shall ... pluck out your hair, and tear your
bosoms." HO 13:16 "They shall fall by the sword:
their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their
women with child shall be ripped up." MI 3:2-3 "...
who pluck off their skin ..., and their flesh from
off their bones; Who also eat the flesh of my
people, and flay their skin from off them; and
they break their bones, and chop them in pieces,
as for the pot, and as flesh within the caldron."
MT 3:12 , 8:12 , 10:21 , 13:30 , 42, 22:13 , 24:51 ,
25:30 , LK 13:28 , JN 5:24 Some will spend
eternity burning in Hell. There will be weeping,
wailing and gnashing of teeth. MT 10:21 "... the
brother shall deliver up his brother to death, and
the father his child, ... children shall rise up
against their parents, and cause them to be put
to death." MT 10:35-36 "For I have come to turn
a man against his father, a daughter against her
mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-
law a man's enemies will be the members of his
own family." MT 11:21-24 Jesus curses [the
inhabitants of] three cities who were not
sufficiently impressed with his great works. AC
13:11 Paul purposefully blinds a man

Femidigirits:

Well I senior friend told me it is written in the Quran that Adam and Eve had 13 twins, making 26 children in all. I am not a Muslim but so I was told.

You should have asked your friend to show you the chapter and verse for this allegation in the Quran. Is your friend a Muslim?. Ask him and get back here, please.

ok,will do so as soon as convenient.

Empiree:
You should have asked your friend to show you the chapter and verse for this allegation in the Quran. Is your friend a Muslim?. Ask him and get back here, please.

Femidigirits:
ok,will do so as soon as convenient.

Well, waste no time of yourself. Narrations like this are usually found in hadith of prophet (pbuh). Qur'an only reflects on important issues necessary for us to know. Whatever else we need to know is by following the prophet (pbuh).

It's true that Adam's children intermarried. For instance, Adam's first set of twins were male and female. The second set of twins were also male and female. Instructions given by God was that the first male should marry second female. Second male should marry first female. I understand the wisdom behind this.

Anyways, the first son disagreed. He said he would marry his (immediate) twin sister not the second twin sister. This is how conflicts began between the two sons that brought about murder into the world today(hatred). My point is the conflicts between the two sons is what Quran pretty much concerned about. Quran only teaches us lesson about these sons (Cain/Abel) to be contended with whatever God decrees for us.

So the story of how many children Adam had, who married who etc was narrated by famous companions of the prophet (peace be upon him), Ibn Abbas and Ibn Masud(God be pleased with them). So it's not in the Quran but hadith.

Thank you sir.

Empiree:
Well, waste no time of yourself. Narrations like this are usually found in hadith of prophet (pbuh). Qur'an only reflects on important issues necessary for us to know. Whatever else we need to know is by following the prophet (pbuh).

It's true that Adam's children intermarried. For instance, Adam's first set of twins were male and female. The second set of twins were also male and female. Instructions given by God was that the first male should marry second female. Second male should marry first female. I understand the wisdom behind this.

Anyways, the first son disagreed. He said he would marry his (immediate) twin sister not the second twin sister. This is how conflicts began between the two sons that brought about murder into the world today(hatred). My point is the conflicts between the two sons is what Quran pretty much concerned about. Quran only teaches us lesson about these sons (Cain/Abel) to be contended with whatever God decrees for us.

So the story of how many children Adam had, who married who etc was narrated by famous companions of the prophet (peace be upon him), Ibn Abbas and Ibn Masud(God be pleased with them). So it's not in the Quran but hadith.

Femidigirits:
Thank you sir.

You are welcome

... When this hits front page , then i'll explain

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go and read the book of Adam and Eve (the first & second) and get a clearer understanding. the name of the wife is mentioned there

Empiree:
Well, waste no time of yourself. Narrations like this are usually found in hadith of prophet (pbuh). Qur'an only reflects on important issues necessary for us to know. Whatever else we need to know is by following the prophet (pbuh).

It's true that Adam's children intermarried. For instance, Adam's first set of twins were male and female. The second set of twins were also male and female. Instructions given by God was that the first male should marry second female. Second male should marry first female. I understand the wisdom behind this.

Anyways, the first son disagreed. He said he would marry his (immediate) twin sister not the second twin sister. This is how conflicts began between the two sons that brought about murder into the world today(hatred). My point is the conflicts between the two sons is what Quran pretty much concerned about. Quran only teaches us lesson about these sons (Cain/Abel) to be contended with whatever God decrees for us.

So the story of how many children Adam had, who married who etc was narrated by famous companions of the prophet (peace be upon him), Ibn Abbas and Ibn Masud(God be pleased with them). So it's not in the Quran but hadith.

what you said matches with the first book of Adam and Eve

Inteltower:



what you said matches with the first book of Adam and Eve

Bible, right?.

I wouldn't have problem with that. Problem is Bible said one of Adam's sons went to another to town and married a woman from there.

Question is, how did they exist or who birthed then if Adam was the first creation, then his Eve, then their 2 sons, Abel and Cain?.

Empiree:
Bible, right?.

Nope, the book of A&E is not bible. It is apocrypha, as in meaning, its dodgy and/or of doubtful origin.

Empiree:
I wouldn't have problem with that. Problem is Bible said one of Adam's sons went to another to town and married a woman from there.
[s]Question is, how did they exist or who birthed then if Adam was the first creation, then his Eve, then their 2 sons, Abel and Cain?[/s].

My dear Muslim brother friend, with all due respect, where did you in the whole Bible read that "... one of Adam's sons went to another to town and married a woman from there" hmm? Haba! Abeggy fear God nah.

MuttleyLaff:
Nope, the book of A&E is not bible. It is apocrypha, as in meaning, its dodgy and/or of doubtful origin.

My dear Muslim brother friend, with all due respect, where did you in the whole Bible read that "... one of Adam's sons went to another to town and married a woman from there" hmm? Haba! Abeggy fear God nah.

Okay, maybe you have problem with "he married a woman". How about he (Cain) impregnated a woman in the land he went?..

Anyways, the story is in Genesis 4. Read the whole story. In Genesis 4:16 says Cain vacated his family (Ada and Eve) after murdering his brother, Abel. Genesis vs 16 says Cain left and had a son (Enoch) with a woman. Question is, where did woman that Cain impregnated in the land of Nod come from if Adam was the first creation?.

agwom:
This is a very simple question to answer. His wife was one of his sisters. We can see, by comparing the story of Cain to that of Seth in terms of time-frame, that this is Biblically plausible. Seth was 105 when Enos was born, and Enos was 90 when Cainan was born. The 4th verse of chapter five says that Adam lived 800 years after the birth of Seth and begat sons and daughters. Apparently Adam and Eve had quite a few children and at least some of them were daughters. It is interesting that the Bible rarely if ever records the birth of women.

It is very possible, then, seeing that Cain and Abel were grown when their conflict is recorded, that daughters had been born to Adam and Eve in the intervening years. One of them may have sided with Cain in his feud with Abel and with God and followed him into the land of Nod. Or perhaps Eve sent one of her daughters to Cain so that he would not be alone in the world. From the early verses of chapter five it is more likely, given as long as people lived in those days and as old as men were before they began to have children, that his wife was one of the daughters that was born after the birth of Seth; one who went looking for her brother for whatever reason.

Anthropologically speaking, it is altogether acceptable-indeed it is inevitable- that the first sons would have married sisters. There would have been no one else for them to marry. A race could not begin with an original pair and propagate if brothers and sisters did not mate. And let it be clear that one would not avoid this consideration if he adopted some other idea of origins. Somewhere the original pair of humans had to appear. In order for them to multiply there would have to be domestic cohabitation between brothers and sisters.

This is true!

Jesus' foster father (Joseph) and his biological mother (Mary) had sons and daughters, the Bible only made mention of the Jesus' brothers (males) by name but the numbers of the females was excluded talkless their names! Matthew 13:55-57

Empiree:
Okay, maybe you have problem with "he married a woman". How about he (Cain) impregnated a woman in the land he went?...

Smh, your problem is, you arent aware your nose by the minute is growing. Tell me, is it now a crime to impregnate ones wife after emigration ni?

Empiree:
Anyways, the story is in Genesis 4. Read the whole story. In Genesis 4:16 says Cain vacated his family (Adam and Eve) after murdering his brother, Abel. Genesis vs 16 says Cain left and had a son (Enoch) with a woman. Question is, where did woman that Cain impregnated in the land of Nod come from if Adam was the first creation?.

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So what if Cain left the presence of the Lord and his Mum & Dad family

Where in this your special Genesis 4:16 read, do you see in Genesis 4:16, that Cain married in it, huh? Where did you read

If Cain, at Genesis 4:17, had sexual relations with his wife, did it not occur to you that Cain, must have left the Lord's presence with his wife ni, hmm, and that it is the same wife he got impregnated upon getting to Nod? Everyday is a educational biblical school day for most of my dear Muslim brothers sha, lol.

MuttleyLaff:
Smh, your problem is, you arent aware your nose by the minute is growing. Tell me, is it now a crime to impregnate ones wife after emigration ni?

[img]https://s3/images/ObamaMuttley.gif[/img]
So what if Cain left the presence of the Lord and his Mum & Dad family

Where in this your special Genesis 4:16 read, do you see in Genesis 4:16, that Cain married in it, huh? Where did you read

If Cain, at Genesis 4:17, had sexual relations with his wife, did it not occur to you that Cain, must have left the Lord's presence with his wife ni, hmm, and that it is the same wife he got impregnated upon getting to Nod? Everyday is a educational biblical school day for most of my dear Muslim brothers sha, lol.

Lol, told you to forget about "married to his wife".

Genesis says Cain left presence of his Lord. It didn't say he left with his wife and family to the land of Nod. Why did you conclude he left with his wife?. That's biblical scholars that assumed that. Also the passage in Genesis inferred that there were people living in the land of Nod where Cain got his wife pregnant. Genesis didn't say that Cain went to land of Nod with his wife.

Again my question is where are those people in the land of Nod and his wife from if Adam was the first creation?.

Read the attachments below. Your priest response to the answer has implications. First implication is that he admitted there might be people living in the land of Nod.

Second, he admitted that writers felt that way which means Moses didn't write Genesis as Christians thought. Priest answer shows there are more than one writer of Genesis


Third implication is that this Bible could not have been God's word.

Empiree:
Lol, told you to forget about "married to his wife".

Your wish is my command

Empiree:
Genesis says Cain left presence of his Lord. It didn't say he left with his wife and family to the land of Nod.

First and foremost, is the only family before turning vagabond he had was his missus, as in meaning, he only had a wife and not yet kids. Cain was the subject of the narrative, and it went without saying that he left with his wife to become a vagabond.

Empiree:
Why did you conclude he left with his wife?. That's biblical scholars that assumed that. Also the passage in Genesis inferred that there were people living in the land of Nod where Cain got his wife pregnant. Genesis didn't say that Cain went to land of Nod with his wife.

Genesis didnt say Cain went alone to the land of Nod without a wife either.

Empiree:
Again my question is where are those people in the land of Nod and his wife from if Adam was the first creation?.

If it was important to know, the Bible would have advanced that information. In the grand scheme of things, it is inconsequential so ithe information was left out. Capisce?

Empiree:
Read the attachments below. Your priest response to the answer has implications. First implication is that he admitted there might be people living in the land of Nod.

[img]https://s3/images/ObamaMuttley.gif[/img]

What going on here?. What's with "your priest response"? Is there anything wrong with you typing "the priest's response ...." ni? So what if people are already living in the land of Nod? Is it a crime or illegal for people to live in the land of Nod ni?

Empiree:
Second, he admitted that writers felt that way which means Moses didn't write Genesis as Christians thought. Priest answer shows there are more than one writer of Genesis

So make we go fry beans because of there are more than one writer of the book of Genesis, erhn, hmm? Are you just JJC lately, knowing this, lol?

Empiree:
Third implication is that this Bible could not have been God's word.

By proxy then the Quran too could not be God's word too, lol. Ẹgbe kẹ gbẹ, na bad society, lol, dont you think, lol. You put your foot right in it lol, trying to play smarty-pants. The implication, then, my dear Muslim brother friend, is that you're in for a rude awakening to know that the Quran, is guilt by association, lol

MuttleyLaff:
Your wish is my command

First and foremost, is the only family before turning vagabond he had was his missus, as in meaning, he only had a wife and not yet kids. Cain was the subject of the narrative, and it went without saying that he left with his wife to become a vagabond.

Genesis didnt say Cain went alone to the land of Nod without a wife either.

Isn't the bible verse clear enough, that cain was the focus in the verses of Genesis?. Why the twist now?. In your subsequent comment you admitted to the possibility human presence in the land of Nod.

If it was important to know, the Bible would have advanced that information. In the grand scheme of things, it is inconsequential so ithe information was left out. Capisce?

It is very important bcus the question is still being asked today. It is a major historical defect of Bible account.

So what if people are already living in the land of Nod? Is it a crime or illegal for people to live in the land of Nod ni?

Here we go. It is not a crime. That's not the problem. Problem is, since Adam was the first creation, who were the people in Nod before Cain went there and where did they come from?. This is major biblical flaw.

So make we go fry beans because of there are more than one writer of the book of Genesis, erhn, hmm? Are you just JJC lately, knowing this, lol?

Am not JJC. It simply proves that Bible could not have been written by Moses nor God's word. It means historians collected pieces of information and called it "Holy Bible". This is what muslims have emphasized for far too long telling you guys that Bible is not inspired by God.

By proxy then the Quran too could not be God's word too, lol. Ẹgbe kẹ gbẹ, na bad society, lol, dont you think, lol. You put your foot right in it lol, trying to play smarty-pants. The implication, then, my dear Muslim brother friend, is that you're in for a rude awakening to know that the Quran, is guilt by association, lol

This is empty comment without proof. Quran compared to Bible?. No way. Quran was Divinely inspired through archangel Gabriel to Prophet muhammad not some historians cooked up stories.

Empiree:
Isn't the bible verse clear enough, that Cain was the focus in the verses of Genesis?.

If you realise that Cain is the focus in the verses of Genesis. If you admit that the bible verse(s) clear enough has Cain as the focus in the verses of Genesis, then why and/or what's the fuss over someone else, like Cain's wife, who isnt the focus?

My dear Muslim brother friend, to let you know Cain's wife, isnt part of the focus at all, is the fact that Cain's wife doesnt have a name mention to reveal her identity, lol.

Empiree:
Why the twist now?. In your subsequent comment you admitted to the possibility human presence in the land of Nod.

Do you know how old Adam lived before he died, hmm? Yep 930 years old Adam was at the time of his last breath and/or death. That is a very good 930 years, long enough time to father sons and daughters, lol, aside the three boys, Cain, Abel and Seth, dont you think my dear doubtful Muslim brother friend, lol, hmm?

I am waiting for you round the corner, to ask me for biblical evidence(s) of A&E's sons and daughters other than their three boys, Cain, Abel and Seth, lol.

Empiree:
It is very important bcus the question is still being asked today. It is a major historical defect of Bible account.

Empiree, A&E had sons and daughters other than their three boys, Cain, Abel and Seth, lol. It is not rocket science that these sons and daughters of A&E and the grandchildren and great granchildren left their parents' home to set up home elsewhere, like in places like the land of Nod for example.

Now, when I first hinted it to you, it flew right over your head, as if like a Naija Airforce fighter jet, so I'll repeat it here again so it sink in. If you keep bleating that "... a major historical defect of Bible account" then take it on the chin that the Quran, that came later after the older Bible book, is then guilty by association with the Bible, of this your "... a major historical defect of Bible account"

Empiree:
Here we go. It is not a crime. That's not the problem. Problem is, since Adam was the first creation, who were the people in Nod before Cain went there and where did they come from?. This is major biblical flaw.

The people were the sons and daughters of A&E and the grandchildren and great granchildren who left their parents' home to set up home elsewhere, in places like the land of Nod in question, for example, lol.

The supposedly major biblical flaw, exists only in your imagination brother, lol. Please stop it already, this your deliberate and attempted misrepresentation of facts.

Empiree:
Am not JJC. It simply proves that Bible could not have been written by Moses nor God's word. It means historians collected pieces of information and called it "Holy Bible". This is what muslims have emphasized for far too long telling you guys that Bible is not inspired by God.

"Then the LORD said to Moses, “Write this as a memorial in a book and recite it in the ears of Joshua, that I will utterly blot out the memory of Amalek from under heaven.”"
- Exodus 17:14

"And Moses wrote down all the words of the LORD. Early the next morning he got up and built an altar at the base of the mountain, along with twelve pillars for the twelve tribes of Israel."
- Exodus 24:4

"¹²One day Moses said to the LORD, “You have been telling me, ‘Take these people up to the Promised Land.’ But you haven’t told me whom you will send with me. You have told me, ‘I know you by name, and I look favorably on you.’
¹³If it is true that you look favorably on me, let me know your ways so I may understand you more fully and continue to enjoy your favor. And remember that this nation is your very own people.”
¹⁴The LORD replied, “I will personally go with you, Moses, and I will give you rest—everything will be fine for you.”
¹⁵Then Moses said, “If you don’t personally go with us, don’t make us leave this place.
¹⁶How will anyone know that you look favorably on me—on me and on your people—if you don’t go with us? For your presence among us sets your people and me apart from all other people on the earth.”
¹⁷The LORD replied to Moses, “I will indeed do what you have asked, for I look favorably on you, and I know you by name.”
¹⁸Moses responded, “Then show me your glorious presence.”
¹⁹The LORD replied, “I will make all my goodness pass before you, and I will call out my name, Yahweh, before you. For I will show mercy to anyone I choose, and I will show compassion to anyone I choose.
²⁰But you may not look directly at my face, for no one may see me and live.”
²¹The LORD continued, “Look, stand near me on this rock.
²²As my glorious presence passes by, I will hide you in the crevice of the rock and cover you with my hand until I have passed by.
²³Then I will remove my hand and let you see me from behind. But my face will not be seen.”"
- Exodus 33:12-23

"²⁷Then the LORD said to Moses, “Write down all these instructions, for they represent the terms of the covenant I am making with you and with Israel.”
²⁸Moses remained there on the mountain with the LORD forty days and forty nights. In all that time he ate no bread and drank no water. And the LORD wrote the terms of the covenant—the Ten Commandments—on the stone tablets"
- Exodus 34:27-28

"All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It corrects us when we are wrong and teaches us to do what is right"
- 2 Timothy 3:16

You've just with this comment proven you are not only a kofam and bonafide JJC but you're also inexperienced and a bible illiterate. It is an inexperienced and a bible illiterate person who believes and will embarrassingly type that Bible was written by Moses and that the Bible isnt God's word.

I am fully aware I have wasted Exodus 33:12-23 on you. What do you think Moses was doing for 40 days and night at Mount Horeb, hmm? Painting his toes nails erhn, lol?

Fyi, I deliberately pasted Exodus 17:14 up there with "recite" emboldened and underlined for you, so you perhaps, might have an epiphany from the word when you think of the meaning of the word Quran, lol.

2 Timothy 3:16 above, informs you that the Pentateuch mostly written down by Moses and other books by the prophets, Apostles, ghostwriters like Joshua etcetera are each and all together inspired by God.

Empiree:
This is empty comment without proof. Quran compared to Bible?.

Which of the two came first Empiree, hmm? If you say the Bible is not God's word, it means, by proxy then, the Quran too could not be God's word, this not only because the Bible was the first on the block before the Quran and even written first, but that the Quran has narratives similar and stories identical to what's in the Bible.

The Quran, even mentions Zabur, as in meaning, king David's Psalms of the Old Testament. Are the Psalms too not God inspired then, Empiree my dear Muslim brother friend, hmm, lol?

Empiree:
No way. Quran was Divinely inspired through archangel Gabriel to Prophet muhammad not some historians cooked up stories.

How long did it take Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) to complete reciting the lines archangel Gabriel ordered him to, lol? 40 days and 40 nights, hmm, lol?

MuttleyLaff:
If you realise that Cain is the focus in the verses of Genesis. If you admit that the bible verse(s) clear enough has Cain as the focus in the verses of Genesis, then why and/or what's the fuss over someone else, like Cain's wife, who isnt the focus?

My dear Muslim brother friend, to let you know Cain's wife, isnt part of the focus at all, is the fact that Cain's wife doesnt have a name mention to reveal her identity, lol.

Do you know how old Adam lived before he died, hmm? Yep 930 years old Adam was at the time of his last breath and/or death. That is a very good 930 years, long enough time to father sons and daughters, lol, aside the three boys, Cain, Abel and Seth, dont you think my dear doubtful Muslim brother friend, lol, hmm?

I am waiting for you round the corner, to ask me for biblical evidence(s) of A&E's sons and daughters other than their three boys, Cain, Abel and Seth, lol.

Emp.iree, A&E had sons and daughters other than their three boys, Cain, Abel and Seth, lol. It is not rocket science that these sons and daughters of A&E and the grandchildren and great granchildren left their parents' home to set up home elsewhere, like in places like the land of Nod for example.

this is your idea not biblical record. You assumed by virtue of your common sense that his wife must have followed him to the land of Nod. Was the land of Nod vacant or occupied before they (Cain and wife) went there if I am to agree that he went there with his wife?. Your cooked up idea that because Adam lived for long his children must have spread out and lived in different cities including Nod. Problem with this is that you forgot that Cain was the first set of twins and his ordeal took place quite early before Adam had other children.

For fact that Bible scholars presented different theory hinted they aren't sure. You could confirm that from my previous post on the priest.

"Then the LORD said to Moses, “Write this as a memorial in a book and [b]recite it in the ears of Joshua[/b], that I will utterly blot out the memory of Amalek from under heaven.”"
- Exodus 17:14

"And Moses wrote down all the words of the LORD. Early the next morning he got up and built an altar at the base of the mountain, along with twelve pillars for the twelve tribes of Israel."
- Exodus 24:4

"¹²One day Moses said to the LORD, “You have been telling me, ‘Take these people up to the Promised Land.’ But you haven’t told me whom you will send with me. You have told me, ‘I know you by name, and I look favorably on you.’
¹³If it is true that you look favorably on me, let me know your ways so I may understand you more fully and continue to enjoy your favor. And remember that this nation is your very own people.”
¹⁴The LORD replied, “I will personally go with you, Moses, and I will give you rest—everything will be fine for you.”
¹⁵Then Moses said, “If you don’t personally go with us, don’t make us leave this place.
¹⁶How will anyone know that you look favorably on me—on me and on your people—if you don’t go with us? For your presence among us sets your people and me apart from all other people on the earth.”
¹⁷The LORD replied to Moses, “I will indeed do what you have asked, for I look favorably on you, and I know you by name.”
¹⁸Moses responded, “Then show me your glorious presence.”
¹⁹The LORD replied, “I will make all my goodness pass before you, and I will call out my name, Yahweh, before you. For I will show mercy to anyone I choose, and I will show compassion to anyone I choose.
²⁰But you may not look directly at my face, for no one may see me and live.”
²¹The LORD continued, “Look, stand near me on this rock.
²²As my glorious presence passes by, I will hide you in the crevice of the rock and cover you with my hand until I have passed by.
²³Then I will remove my hand and let you see me from behind. But my face will not be seen.”"
- Exodus 33:12-23

"²⁷Then the LORD said to Moses, “Write down all these instructions, for they represent the terms of the covenant I am making with you and with Israel.”
²⁸Moses remained there on the mountain with the LORD forty days and forty nights. In all that time he ate no bread and drank no water. And the LORD wrote the terms of the covenant—the Ten Commandmentsi—on the stone tablets"
- Exodus 34:27-28

"All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It corrects us when we are wrong and teaches us to do what is right"
- 2 Timothy 3:16

You've just with this comment proven you are not only a kofam and bonafide JJC but you're also inexperienced and a bible illiterate. It is an inexperienced and a bible illiterate person who believes and will embarrassingly type that Bible was written by Moses and that the Bible isnt God's word.

I am fully aware I have wasted Exodus 33:12-23 on you. What do you think Moses was doing for 40 days and night at Mount Horeb, hmm? Painting his toes nails erhn, lol?

Fyi, I deliberately pasted Exodus 17:14 up there with "recite" emboldened and underlined for you, so you perhaps, might have an epiphany from the word when you think of the meaning of the word Quran, lol.

2 Timothy 3:16 above, informs you that the Pentateuch mostly written down by Moses and other books by the prophets, Apostles, ghostwriters like Joshua etcetera are each and all together inspired by God.

Which of the two came first Emp.iree, hmm? If you say the Bible is not God's word, it means, by proxy then, the Quran too could not be God's word, this not only because the Bible was the first on the block before the Quran and even written first, but that the Quran has narratives similar and stories identical to what's in the Bible.

The Quran, even mentions Zabur, as in meaning, king David's Psalms of the Old Testament. Are the Psalms too not God inspired then, Emiree my dear Muslim brother friend, hmm, lol?

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So you didn't get to think "the Lord said" 2nd speaker or 3rd speaker?. It means there are historians narrating stories. If you believe the Lord said means the Lord commanded Moses, did the Lord also command him to write his (Moses) in death?. When your grandfather died did he write his own obituary?.

Here Moses (according to you) wrote his own death and burial.



Deuteronomy 34

The Death of Moses


34 Then Moses climbed Mount Nebo from the plains of Moab to the top of Pisgah, across from Jericho. There the Lord showed him the whole land—from Gilead to Dan, 2 all of Naphtali, the territory of Ephraim and Manasseh, all the land of Judah as far as the Mediterranean Sea, 3 the Negev and the whole region from the Valley of Jericho, the City of Palms, as far as Zoar. 4 Then the Lord said to him, “This is the land I promised on oath to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob when I said, ‘I will give it to your descendants.’ I have let you see it with your eyes, but you will not cross over into it.”

5 And Moses the servant of the Lord died there in Moab, as the Lord had said. 6 He buried him[a] in Moab, in the valley opposite Beth Peor, but to this day no one knows where his grave is. 7 Moses was a hundred and twenty years old when he died, yet his eyes were not weak nor his strength gone. 8 The Israelites grieved for Moses in the plains of Moab thirty days, until the time of weeping and mourning was over.


Can you think?. It is so clear that historians are the speakers not Moses and definitely not God. This is why in my previous post the priest said there are different writers in Deuteronomy. Why did you choose to argue otherwise?

Empiree:
this is your idea not biblical record. You assumed by virtue of your common sense that his wife must have followed him to the land of Nod. Was the land of Nod vacant or occupied before they (Cain and wife) went there if I am to agree that he went there with his wife?.

Did you think them gray matter in the head are just decorations and not to be used ni, hmm?

The land could have been vacated or not vacant, but bear in mind that the word "Nod" in Hebrew, means wander or wandering.

Empiree:
Your cooked up idea that because Adam lived for long his children must have spread out and lived in different cities including Nod. Problem with this is that you forgot that Cain was the first set of twins and his ordeal took place quite early before Adam had other children.

Your problem is you can't seem to accept that Adam and Eve had many sons, daughters, grandchildren and great grandchildren other than the three boys/men, Cain, Abel and Seth

Empiree:
For fact that Bible scholars presented different theory hinted they aren't sure. You could confirm that from my previous post on the priest.

To you, those Bible scholars are two-headed exceptionally knowledgeable super human beings with exclusive insights isn't It, lol?

Empiree:
So you didn't get to think "the Lord said" 2nd speaker or 3rd speaker?. It means there are historians narrating stories. If you believe the Lord said means the Lord commanded Moses, did the Lord also command him to write his (Moses) in death?. When your grandfather died did he write his own obituary?.
Here Moses (according to you) wrote his own death and burial.
Deuteronomy 34

The Death of Moses
34 Then Moses climbed Mount Nebo from the plains of Moab to the top of Pisgah, across from Jericho. There the Lord showed him the whole land—from Gilead to Dan, 2 all of Naphtali, the territory of Ephraim and Manasseh, all the land of Judah as far as the Mediterranean Sea, 3 the Negev and the whole region from the Valley of Jericho, the City of Palms, as far as Zoar. 4 Then the Lord said to him, “This is the land I promised on oath to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob when I said, ‘I will give it to your descendants.’ I have let you see it with your eyes, but you will not cross over into it.”

5 And Moses the servant of the Lord died there in Moab, as the Lord had said. 6 He buried him[a] in Moab, in the valley opposite Beth Peor, but to this day no one knows where his grave is. 7 Moses was a hundred and twenty years old when he died, yet his eyes were not weak nor his strength gone. 8 The Israelites grieved for Moses in the plains of Moab thirty days, until the time of weeping and mourning was over.

MuttleyLaff:
"All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It corrects us when we are wrong and teaches us to do what is right"
- 2 Timothy 3:16

You've just with this comment proven you are not only a kofam and bonafide JJC but you're also inexperienced and a bible illiterate. It is an inexperienced and a bible illiterate person who believes and will embarrassingly type that Bible was written by Moses and that the Bible isnt God's word.

I am fully aware I have wasted Exodus 33:12-23 on you. What do you think Moses was doing for 40 days and night at Mount Horeb, hmm? Painting his toes nails erhn, lol?

Fyi, I deliberately pasted Exodus 17:14 up there with "recite" emboldened and underlined for you, so you perhaps, might have an epiphany from the word when you think of the meaning of the word Quran, lol.

2 Timothy 3:16 above, informs you that the Pentateuch mostly written down by Moses and other books by the prophets, Apostles, ghostwriters like Joshua etcetera are each and all together inspired by God.

Which of the two came first Empiree, hmm? If you say the Bible is not God's word, it means, by proxy then, the Quran too could not be God's word, this not only because the Bible was the first on the block before the Quran and even written first, but that the Quran has narratives similar and stories identical to what's in the Bible.

The Quran, even mentions Zabur, as in meaning, king David's Psalms of the Old Testament. Are the Psalms too not God inspired then, Empiree my dear Muslim brother friend, hmm, lol?

How long did it take Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) to complete reciting the lines archangel Gabriel ordered him to, lol? 40 days and 40 nights, hmm, lol?

My dear Muslim brother friend Empiree, you probably thought that emboldened underline above was a decoration, lol. I knew you wouldn't be thinking right, so pre-emptively type in that info there. Obviously, if you know, you know, but someone like you, who doesn't know, wouldn't know, so you're forgiven for your ignorance.

Empiree:
Can you think?. It is so clear that historians are the speakers not Moses and definitely not God. This is why in my previous post the priest said there are different writers in Deuteronomy. Why did you choose to argue otherwise?

Please stop continually publicly embarrassing yourself. Go research or look up what ghostwriter means, lol.

TATIME:


This is true!

Jesus' foster father (Joseph) and his biological mother (Mary) had sons and daughters, the Bible only made mention of the Jesus' brothers (males) by name but the numbers of the females was excluded talkless their names! Matthew 13:55-57

This is the more reason to understand why Jesus never appointed any female as an Apostle!

Your problem is you can't seem to accept that Adam and Eve had many sons, daughters, grandchildren and great grandchildren other than the three boys/men, Cain, Abel and Seth

I have no problem with this. How does this correlate with Cain in Nod.

MuttleyLaff:


Please stop continually publicly embarrassing yourself. Go research or look up what ghostwriter means, lol.

So you acknowledged ghostwriter in the Bible and it is still "inspired word of God", right?.

Yeyeman

Empiree:
I have no problem with this. How does this correlate with Cain in Nod

[img]https://s5/images/NodCropped.jpg[/img]
You see, my dear Muslim brother friend Empiree, you have this problem of not able to get your head round how and where Cain got his missus from. You like historians abi? Do you then see in the above screens grab's blown up circle, where in that "Keil and Delitzsch Biblical Commentary on the Old Testament" write-up, it is advanced that Cain's wife went into exile with Cain, to the land of Nod (i.e. the land of wandering)

Empiree:
So you acknowledged ghostwriter in the Bible and it is still "inspired word of God", right?.

My dear Muslim brother friend Empiree, that Deuteronomy 34:1-8 that you gleefully quoted but that you attributed the authorship of, to be that historian(s), did you not know that it was Joshua, lol, an accomplished author in his own right, who is the ghostwriter that wrote that Deuteronomy 34:1-8 obituary/eulogy etcetera literary or journalistic piece and/or other texts that are officially credited to Moses, pbuh, as the author ni, hmm, lol?

Listen, dear Muslim brother friend Empiree, and let me break it all down for you. If you think that the Bible is not the "inspired word of God", then the Quran too is complicit, it too cant be seen to be the "inspired word of God". The Quran wouldnt be "inspired word of God" because of it being guilty by association with the Bible. C'mon now, it's common knowledge that the Quran, as a matter of fact, is piggybacked by the Bible, lol, so if in your eye, there's anything wrong with the Bible, then then there'll be loads worse with your "Holy Book" lol, bwahahaha ha and that is true. Take for example, the above pasted picture, lol. I know, I know that the Quran doesnt itself talk about 72 virgins, thats only the Hadiths, but even though the Quran might not have specified 72 number of virgins, it does promise Muslim men with virgins in Islamic heaven. If only the men did read the fine print, lol. I am not going to quote the Hadith here nor mention the several descriptions related to houri(s)/virgins because they are either gross, ludicrous and/or too graphic

Empiree:
Yeyeman

You're a first grade yeyeman plus plus with that your funny white burka wearing ghostwriter with shadeshade glasses put on inside the house. Who does that? For wearing a burka, must have even thought itself to be a woman, lol

TATIME:
This is true!

Jesus' foster father (Joseph) and his biological mother (Mary) had sons and daughters, the Bible only made mention of the Jesus' brothers (males) by name but the numbers of the females was excluded talkless their names! Matthew 13:55-57

Maximus69:
This is the more reason to understand why Jesus never appointed any female as an Apostle!

[img]https://s3/images/ObamaMuttley.gif[/img]
1/ What has "the more reason to understand why Jesus never appointed any female as an Apostle" have to do with the good observational points agwom (i.e. OP) and TATIME made, huh?
2/ OK, now that you've brought this up, what then is the "more reason" to understand why Jesus never appointed any female as an Apostle, huh?

MuttleyLaff:
[img]https://s5/images/NodCropped.jpg[/img]
You see, my dear Muslim brother friend Empiree, you have this problem of not able to get your head round how and where Cain got his missus from. You like historians abi? Do you then see in the above screens grab's blown up circle, where in that "Keil and Delitzsch Biblical Commentary on the Old Testament" write-up, it is advanced that Cain's wife went into exile with Cain, to the land of Nod (i.e. the land of wandering)





Listen, dear Muslim brother friend Em.piree, and let me break it all down for you. If you think that the Bible is not the "inspired word of God", then the Quran too is complicit, it too cant be seen to be the "inspired word of God". The Quran wouldnt be "inspired word of God" because of it being guilty by association with the Bible. C'mon now, it's common knowledge that the Quran, as a matter of fact, is piggybacked by the Bible, lol, so if in your eye, there's anything wrong with the Bible, then then there'll be loads worse with your "Holy Book" lol, bwahahaha ha and that is true. Take for example, the above pasted picture, lol. I know, I know that the Quran doesnt itself talk about 72 virgins, thats only the Hadiths, but even though the Quran might not have specified 72 number of virgins, it does promise Muslim men with virgins in Islamic heaven. If only the men did read the fine print, lol. I am not going to quote the Hadith here nor mention the several descriptions related to houri(s)/virgins because they are either gross, ludicrous and/or too graphic

what you have successfully done was that you further proved to me The Bible is history book not essentially Divine. I can understand why historians would claim his wife acomplained him to Nod. I know I have frustrated you enough. Nice try from wherever website you got that from. They realized the only option left was to claim his wife followed him while at the same time the same image you posted says "he knew his wife there". Then later said his wife must have went there with him but there is no biblical text to prove that and you do not have unique external source to back it up.

Anyways, that's gone but you proved to us that Bible remains a book written by different historians contrary to popular saying that Moses write old testament.

Again, a priest confirmed the book of Genesis was written by different writers. Even if these writers were righteous people, they are not hujjah (evidence) for Bible credentials. It is like Muslim hadith. Hadith is not entirely Divine because there are different narrators of Hadith and they are not 100 evidence except what is in harmony with Qur'an. Qur'an is the only source of Divine guidance that is guaranteed.

So you will not find different writers of Quran, never!!!!!!! Because it can not be authored by anyone other than Allah. On the contrary is the reason why you have ghostwriters and ghost authors of the Bible.

My dear Muslim brother friend Em.piree, that Deuteronomy 34:1-8 that you gleefully quoted but that you attributed the authorship of, to be that historian(s), did you not know that it was Joshua, lol, an accomplished author in his own right, who is the ghostwriter that wrote that Deuteronomy 34:1-8 obituary/eulogy etcetera literary or journalistic piece and/or other texts that are officially credited to Moses, pbuh, as the author ni, hmm, lol?

as I said before you just implicated yourself more bcuz Joshua was not a Divine. Nor did he have Divine authority over what is right or wrong. For fact that he credited his work to Moses proved hanky-panky .

Historians will always be historians. Whether they wrote accurately or not their accomplishment could not be Divine because when it comes to story book or history book there is always minus and plus (distortions)


So Bible is in the same status of Hadith even Hadith has more intergrity because we have hadith classifications and chains of narrators.

I know that the Quran doesnt itself talk about 72 virgins, thats only the Hadiths, but even though the Quran might not have specified 72 number of virgins, it does promise Muslim men with virgins in Islamic heaven. If only the men did read the fine print, lol. I am not going to quote the Hadith here nor mention the several descriptions related to houri(s)/virgins because they are either gross, ludicrous and/or too graphic

is there any problems, sin or crimes in having virgin in paradise?. You think it is like boring CHRISTIAN Paradise?. Yes, Christian paradise is boring.