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Re: Hell Fire, Adam And Eve Are Not Real, Just Fables - Pope Francis. by Nobody: 11:01am On Aug 28, 2015
emrain:
One man who is out to open many old “secrets” in the Catholic church is Pope Francis.
Some of the beliefs that are held in the church but contrary to the loving nature of God are now being set aside by the Pope who was recently named The Man of The Year by TIME Magazine . In his latest revelations, Pope Francis said:

“Through humility, soul searching, and prayerful contemplation we have gained a new understanding of certain dogmas. The church no longer believes in a literal hell where people suffer. This doctrine is incompatible with the infinite love of God. God is not a judge but a friend and a lover of humanity.
God seeks not to condemn but only to embrace. Like the fable of Adam and Eve, we see hell as a literary device. Hell is merely a metaphor for the isolated soul, which like all souls ultimately will be united in love with God.”



In a shocking speech that is reverberating across the world, Pope Francis declared that: “All religions are true, because they are true in the hearts of all those who believe in them. What other kind of truth is there? In the past, the church has been harsh on those it deemed morally wrong or sinful. Today, we no longer judge. Like a loving father, we never condemn our children. Our church is big enough for heterosexuals and homosexuals, for the pro-life and the pro-choice! For conservatives and liberals, even communists are welcome and have joined us. We all love and worship the same God.”
In the last six months, Catholic cardinals, bishops and theologians have been deliberating in the Vatican City, in discussing the future of the church and redefining long-held Catholic doctrines and dogmas. The Third Vatican Council, is the largest and most important since the Second Vatican Council was concluded in 1962.
Pope Francis convened the new council to “finally finish the work of the Second Vatican Council.”
The Third Vatican Council concluded with Pope Francis announcing that… Catholicism is now a “modern and reasonable religion, which has undergone evolutionary changes. The time has come to abandon all intolerance. We must recognize that religious truth evolves and changes. Truth is not absolute or set in stone. Even atheists acknowledge the divine. Through acts of love and charity the atheist acknowledges God as well, and redeems his own soul, becoming an active participant in the redemption of humanity.”
One statement in the Pope’s speech has sent traditionalists into a fit of confusion and hysteria… “God is changing and evolving as we are, For God lives in us and in our hearts. When we spread love and kindness in the world, we touch our own divinity and recognize it. The Bible is a beautiful holy book, but like all great and ancient works, some passages are outdated. Some even call for intolerance or judgement. The time has come to see these verses as later interpolations, contrary to the message of love and truth, which otherwise radiates through scripture. In accordance with our new understanding, we will begin to ordain women as cardinals, bishops and priests. In the future, it is my hope that we will have a woman pope one day. Let no door be closed to women that is open to men!”

source: TV

The emboldened though. Reminds me of Mizmycoli

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Re: Hell Fire, Adam And Eve Are Not Real, Just Fables - Pope Francis. by Addietunes(m): 11:05am On Aug 28, 2015
I can't wait for this pope to claim there is no god
Re: Hell Fire, Adam And Eve Are Not Real, Just Fables - Pope Francis. by Ubenedictus(m): 11:06am On Aug 28, 2015
MzNelly:
Wow....this is really interesting.

Will they stop worshipping Mary too?
they do not woship mary they have said that severally but you chose not to hear.
Re: Hell Fire, Adam And Eve Are Not Real, Just Fables - Pope Francis. by Nobody: 11:13am On Aug 28, 2015
Ubenedictus:
they do not woship mary they have said that severally but you chose not to hear.

Who do they worship? Jesus through Mary?
Re: Hell Fire, Adam And Eve Are Not Real, Just Fables - Pope Francis. by Nobody: 11:56am On Aug 28, 2015
JMAN05:


What is the name of that TV station, what program was it that he spoke the above, and at what time?

U can share a link from a reputable news agency let's see.

It is not new tho that catholic does not believe Adam and Eve story as a real life story. I think they dont also accept Jonah and fish story as real life story. That one is not new, but hellfire issue is new. I find it hard to believe. Maybe good source can convince me

Select a paragraph from the post and google it to get a better source yourself... It's a free world. cheesy
Re: Hell Fire, Adam And Eve Are Not Real, Just Fables - Pope Francis. by Nobody: 11:59am On Aug 28, 2015
MzNelly:


Who do they worship? Jesus through Mary?

Don't be silly...

Catholics worship God, God's son, God's mother and the holy spirit. How can one worship sango through amadioha? cheesy
Re: Hell Fire, Adam And Eve Are Not Real, Just Fables - Pope Francis. by Nobody: 12:02pm On Aug 28, 2015
Addietunes:
I can't wait for this pope to claim there is no god

The world will be plunged into anarchy.

Pls let the delusion continue.... cheesy cheesy grin
Re: Hell Fire, Adam And Eve Are Not Real, Just Fables - Pope Francis. by Nobody: 12:06pm On Aug 28, 2015
emrain:


Don't be silly...

Catholics worship God, God's son, God's mother and the holy spirit. How can one worship sango through amadioha? cheesy

God's mother?

Lol, tell me something I do not know.
Re: Hell Fire, Adam And Eve Are Not Real, Just Fables - Pope Francis. by Nobody: 12:15pm On Aug 28, 2015
MzNelly:


God's mother?

Lol, tell me something I do not know.

The Hail Mary prayer: Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen

What else do you wanna see?
Re: Hell Fire, Adam And Eve Are Not Real, Just Fables - Pope Francis. by Nobody: 12:38pm On Aug 28, 2015
emrain:


The Hail Mary prayer: Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen

What else do you wanna see?


Sorry, are you a Catholic?
Re: Hell Fire, Adam And Eve Are Not Real, Just Fables - Pope Francis. by Nobody: 12:52pm On Aug 28, 2015
MzNelly:


Sorry, are you a Catholic?

Of what relevance is the answer to this question?
Re: Hell Fire, Adam And Eve Are Not Real, Just Fables - Pope Francis. by Nobody: 1:23pm On Aug 28, 2015
emrain:


Of what relevance is the answer to this question?
Re: Hell Fire, Adam And Eve Are Not Real, Just Fables - Pope Francis. by Nobody: 1:23pm On Aug 28, 2015
emrain:


Of what relevance is the answer to this question?

Nvm then.
Re: Hell Fire, Adam And Eve Are Not Real, Just Fables - Pope Francis. by Nobody: 1:44pm On Aug 28, 2015
MzNelly:


Nvm then.

Aiit
Re: Hell Fire, Adam And Eve Are Not Real, Just Fables - Pope Francis. by Ubenedictus(m): 9:48am On Sep 01, 2015
emrain:


The Hail Mary prayer: Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen

What else do you wanna see?

did you see anythin like worship there?

You people alway like to make silly insinuations.
Re: Hell Fire, Adam And Eve Are Not Real, Just Fables - Pope Francis. by Nobody: 10:58am On Sep 01, 2015
The man of sin has finally revealed himself. Smh!

2 Thessalonians 2:3-4

Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.
Re: Hell Fire, Adam And Eve Are Not Real, Just Fables - Pope Francis. by Ubenedictus(m): 4:06pm On Sep 01, 2015
DoubleDeeX:
The man of sin has finally revealed himself. Smh!

2 Thessalonians 2:3-4

Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.
u had already made your conclusion. You don't care if the news is correct or fabricated.

Enjoy the lies dear!
Re: Hell Fire, Adam And Eve Are Not Real, Just Fables - Pope Francis. by Nobody: 5:48pm On Sep 01, 2015
Ubenedictus:
did you see anythin like worship there?

You people alway like to make silly insinuations.

if the bolded text is not worship, I wonder what it is.
Re: Hell Fire, Adam And Eve Are Not Real, Just Fables - Pope Francis. by Ubenedictus(m): 10:55pm On Sep 01, 2015
emrain:


if the bolded text is not worship, I wonder what it is.
the bloded says "...pray for us sinner...", how does translate to worship?
Re: Hell Fire, Adam And Eve Are Not Real, Just Fables - Pope Francis. by Nobody: 6:21am On Sep 02, 2015
Ubenedictus:
the bloded says "...pray for us sinner...", how does translate to worship?

what is worship?
Re: Hell Fire, Adam And Eve Are Not Real, Just Fables - Pope Francis. by misreal(m): 12:31pm On Sep 02, 2015
Ranchhoddas:
The pope did not and can never say this.This is a fabrication.
i am not a Catholic but I think the Pope did not say this.
Re: Hell Fire, Adam And Eve Are Not Real, Just Fables - Pope Francis. by brocab: 5:56am On Sep 09, 2015
Which God is Pope Francis talking about?-Are we connected to the same word of God-does the Catholic's now have a new idea how the word of God should be written? What do the Catholic's believe in?
Where is the Holy Spirit-have they decided to push Him out of the way' like the Pharisees did after rejecting Christ.
We all agree God loves everyone-but He hates sin, sin wont get anybody into heaven-we as a nation of Christians cant encourage sinners to sin, we need to encourage them not too. Jesus is the door, He is the only way into heaven, one must be born again before he or she can enter into the kingdom of God.
In the last months the net has flooded news across the planet, and the Pope is calling all denominational Churches to join him, get ready for the One World Religion.
To be honest true believers in Christ would rather die-then fall with the devil.
The Pope has no-chance.
Here comes 2 Thessalonian's 2:3-4
emrain:
One man who is out to open many old “secrets” in the Catholic church is Pope Francis.
Some of the beliefs that are held in the church but contrary to the loving nature of God are now being set aside by the Pope who was recently named The Man of The Year by TIME Magazine . In his latest revelations, Pope Francis said:

“Through humility, soul searching, and prayerful contemplation we have gained a new understanding of certain dogmas. The church no longer believes in a literal hell where people suffer. This doctrine is incompatible with the infinite love of God. God is not a judge but a friend and a lover of humanity.
God seeks not to condemn but only to embrace. Like the fable of Adam and Eve, we see hell as a literary device. Hell is merely a metaphor for the isolated soul, which like all souls ultimately will be united in love with God.”


In a shocking speech that is reverberating across the world, Pope Francis declared that: “All religions are true, because they are true in the hearts of all those who believe in them. What other kind of truth is there? In the past, the church has been harsh on those it deemed morally wrong or sinful. Today, we no longer judge. Like a loving father, we never condemn our children. Our church is big enough for heterosexuals and homosexuals, for the pro-life and the pro-choice! For conservatives and liberals, even communists are welcome and have joined us. We all love and worship the same God.”
In the last six months, Catholic cardinals, bishops and theologians have been deliberating in the Vatican City, in discussing the future of the church and redefining long-held Catholic doctrines and dogmas. The Third Vatican Council, is the largest and most important since the Second Vatican Council was concluded in 1962.
Pope Francis convened the new council to “finally finish the work of the Second Vatican Council.”
The Third Vatican Council concluded with Pope Francis announcing that… Catholicism is now a “modern and reasonable religion, which has undergone evolutionary changes. The time has come to abandon all intolerance. We must recognize that religious truth evolves and changes. Truth is not absolute or set in stone. Even atheists acknowledge the divine. Through acts of love and charity the atheist acknowledges God as well, and redeems his own soul, becoming an active participant in the redemption of humanity.”
One statement in the Pope’s speech has sent traditionalists into a fit of confusion and hysteria… “God is changing and evolving as we are, For God lives in us and in our hearts. When we spread love and kindness in the world, we touch our own divinity and recognize it. The Bible is a beautiful holy book, but like all great and ancient works, some passages are outdated. Some even call for intolerance or judgement. The time has come to see these verses as later interpolations, contrary to the message of love and truth, which otherwise radiates through scripture. In accordance with our new understanding, we will begin to ordain women as cardinals, bishops and priests. In the future, it is my hope that we will have a woman pope one day. Let no door be closed to women that is open to men!”

source: TV
Re: Hell Fire, Adam And Eve Are Not Real, Just Fables - Pope Francis. by italo: 9:06am On Sep 09, 2015
misreal:
i am not a Catholic but I think the Pope did not say this.

Of course the Pope didn't say it.

What you must wonder is why so-called "christians" keep making up lies about the Pope and Catholicism.
Re: Hell Fire, Adam And Eve Are Not Real, Just Fables - Pope Francis. by brocab: 9:33am On Sep 09, 2015
Maybe if you pull your head out of backside and stop criticising, and check out this news yourself, you may learn something in life.
The Vatican has many hidden secrets behind those doors, but you wouldn't know-you are to bissy rubbishing other Christians who are willing to speak forward.
Maybe you and your nosey gang-could consider listening instead of being such jerks, about anything that is happening in these last day's heading our way, millions of Christians are falling each day.
Maybe if you learn to pray to Jesus without Mary, you yourselves may receive the answers other believers have retrieved.
Remember not only the Catholic's but all believers have their issues.
italo:


Of course the Pope didn't say it.

What you must wonder is why so-called "christians" keep making up lies about the Pope and Catholicism.
Re: Hell Fire, Adam And Eve Are Not Real, Just Fables - Pope Francis. by italo: 10:03am On Sep 09, 2015
brocab:
Maybe if you pull your head out of backside and stop criticising, and check out this news yourself, you may learn something in life.
The Vatican has many hidden secrets behind those doors, but you wouldn't know-you are to bissy rubbishing other Christians who are willing to speak forward.
Maybe you and your nosey gang-could consider listening instead of being such jerks, about anything that is happening in these last day's heading our way, millions of Christians are falling each day.
Maybe if you learn to pray to Jesus without Mary, you yourselves may receive the answers other believers have retrieved.
Remember not only the Catholic's but all believers have their issues.

Instead of showing us that your mother raised you to insult people who did nothing to you...

...why don't you just show us where and when Pope Francis said it?

Misreal, please take note.
Re: Hell Fire, Adam And Eve Are Not Real, Just Fables - Pope Francis. by misreal(m): 10:52am On Sep 09, 2015
italo:


Instead of showing us that your mother raised you to insult people who did nothing to you...

...why don't you just show us where and when Pope Francis said it?

Misreal, please take note.
k
Re: Hell Fire, Adam And Eve Are Not Real, Just Fables - Pope Francis. by brocab: 10:20pm On Sep 09, 2015
Everyday the net is flooded with news reports about Pope Francis, everyday we are hearing how our beloved Churches are used and abused by wolves in sheep clothing-Italo open your eye's-listen what's going on around the globe.
Over and over the Christians have showing you and your gang where to find such information across the net, and you have chosen not to see for yourselves.
So you don't like the way my mama brought me into this world, guess who my Father is?
italo:


Instead of showing us that your mother raised you to insult people who did nothing to you...

...why don't you just show us where and when Pope Francis said it?

Misreal, please take note.

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Re: Hell Fire, Adam And Eve Are Not Real, Just Fables - Pope Francis. by italo: 10:43pm On Sep 09, 2015
brocab:
Everyday the net is flooded with news reports about Pope Francis, everyday we are hearing how our beloved Churches are used and abused by wolves in sheep clothing-Italo open your eye's-listen what's going on around the globe.
Over and over the Christians have showing you and your gang where to find such information across the net, and you have chosen not to see for yourselves.
So you don't like the way my mama brought me into this world, guess who my Father is?

@misreal,

What do you think drives some protestants like this, so-called followers of Jesus Christ, to continually fabricate lies against the pope and catholicism?

Or have they been able to tell us when and where the pope said so?
Re: Hell Fire, Adam And Eve Are Not Real, Just Fables - Pope Francis. by brocab: 12:15am On Sep 10, 2015
Let your fingers do the walking, you must wonder within why are so many protestants making these claims?
Is it because some of these claims are true.
We are already starting to see, the endtimes prophesies coming into place.
Soon the Pope's visiting the USA, their talks are about the New World Order climate changes and the New World Religion-Pope want's all churches to combined once again-together with the Catholic Church.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoh1FQPQAZA
The nets flooded with this fabricated lies as you have put it.
Italo we don't need the New World Order-without our freedom we are doomed.
italo:


@misreal,

What do you think drives some protestants like this, so-called followers of Jesus Christ, to continually fabricate lies against the pope and catholicism?

Or have they been able to tell us when and where the pope said so?
Re: Hell Fire, Adam And Eve Are Not Real, Just Fables - Pope Francis. by misreal(m): 12:34am On Sep 10, 2015
brocab:
Let your fingers do the walking, you must wonder within why are so many protestants making these claims?
Is it because some of these claims are true.
We are already starting to see, the endtimes prophesies coming into place.
Soon the Pope's visiting the USA, their talks are about the New World Order climate changes and the New World Religion-Pope want's all churches to combined once again-together with the Catholic Church.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoh1FQPQAZA
The nets flooded with this fabricated lies as you have put it.
Italo we don't need the New World Order-without our freedom we are doomed.
what can I more say..
Re: Hell Fire, Adam And Eve Are Not Real, Just Fables - Pope Francis. by brocab: 1:45am On Sep 10, 2015
We Christians need to stick together, no-ones against other denominational's, My wife is Catholic all in all.
Theirs One God, one Lord, and one Spirit, if this is our goal to believe' then all I can say' as Jesus has written it in the bible through and through, then none of us has anything to worry about what's about to come towards the end.

Even the pentecostal's believers are seeing great changes with our leaderships involving the Church.
And many' like the Pope are pushing for the New World Order, as God had written it' this will happen.

Revelation 13:16-17 "And he causes all, both small and Great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive the mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, and no-one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Revelation 20:4 "And then I saw thrones and those who were seated on them, and judgement was committed to them. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshipped the beast or his image.
misreal:
what can I more say..
Re: Hell Fire, Adam And Eve Are Not Real, Just Fables - Pope Francis. by knowyaself2(m): 2:57am On Sep 10, 2015
Barnabaseloka:
Be careful, lest ANYONE (whether pope or not) deceives you. The first people created by God were Adam and Eve, and it was through them (though not directly) that Jesus came to the world. If the story of Adam and Eve is fable, then Jesus did not exist and we christians are wasting our time believing in Jesus that doesn't exist.

If hell fire does not exist, why will Jesus tell believers that it were better to go to heaven maimed than to go to hell with one's body intact? Why will the Devil, Death, the world of the dead and those whose names will not be found in the Book of Life be thrown into a place that does not exist (hell fire) on the judgement day?
If hell does not exist, why will Jesus leave His throne in heaven and come to the earth and even died for the sins of the world?
Jesus did not exist my dear, that's the bitter truth for christains-this has been proved beyond all doubts. Go and read my post on ''Christ's Existence Not Substantiated by Historical Evidence''
The problem with christains, especially Nigerian Christians, is that they have been so indotrinated that they hardly research and ask thought-provoking questions. Whoever that has carried out a thorough research, and have most likely seen all the evidence attesting to the fact that both the old and new testament are figment of the Jewish people's imagination, and a sublimal tool and properganda to achieve their selfish interest at the detriment of the rest of the world; and still goes on to believe it, is crazy.
There's nothing original about the bible. Most of the concepts were stolen from acient pegan religion that predates it by thousands of years, and of course were further corrupted to give it a feel of originality.
The Jews created both the bible and quaran out of thin air to enslave the whole world - these two serve as their bulwark of power and control. And the annoying thing is that they even try to fool us by appearing to be hostile to these religions. The Jews excel in occult practices, and Christianity and Islam readily provide them with adequate supply of psychic energy. The everage deluded Christian is innocently devoted and committed, thinking they are worshiping the almighty God.
Jehova, Allah and Jesus Christ are just thoughtforms created by the Jews and made powerful through constant supply of psychic energy via worship, praises, adoration, etc. Then there are extra terristials beings out there impersonating these fiticious entities - greys, reptilians, and some nordics who made a deal with the vetican: souls(energy) in exchange for power and wealth. These are verified facts, not fables like the bible. People need to wake up - Jewish religion is the highest fraud ever known by humanity. Enough said.

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