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Re: Obasanjo Not Jonathan Responsible For Boko Haram- Gen Gumi by OteDOLLAR(m): 6:01am On Jun 18, 2015
500GP:
OBASANJO IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR BOKOHARAM INSURGENCY..

IT STARTED DURING YARADUA'S REGIME BY THE THE RECKLESS KILLING OF THE FIRST BOKOHARAM LEADER IN THE POLICE CUSTODY.....

GEJ FAILED AS A PRESIDENT TO CURB THE INSURGENCY...

HOW DOES ENFORCEMENT OF SHARIA LAW LEAD TO BOKOHARAM? SHARIA LAW IS PART AND PARCEL OF ISLAMIC RELIGION.....



#IT MAY BE TO LATE NOW TO CONTROL THE INSURGENCY BECAUSE OF THE IMMEDIATE PAST REGIME...

BOKO boys started Operation since baba Obasanjo's era

Obasanjo didn't create bokoharam, bt he allowed them to thrive long enough to develop into this monstrous team!

The enforcement of sharia in some states of d federation and indeed in the NIGERIAN CONSTITUTION itself encouraged the believe that the religion was marginalized thus it became imperative for d boko boys to stand tall!

The GEJ administration didn't kill Yusuf Muhammed! He was killed during Yar'adua's tenure when Goodluck Jonathan was a spare tyre in d running.

Afta Yusuf muhammed was murdered, the reign of terror took a new turn and we have this!

SOMEONE SHOULD SHOW ME A HANDING OVER NOTE GIVEN TO xPGEJ that could av highlighted d problem that BH presents? He sincerely had no idea what he was coming to meet+ it will b difficult for somebody of a non-military background to develop a idea to tackle those religious bigots

I AM A MUSLIM!!! Bt partial inclusion of Sharia in the Nigerian constitution iz the problem cos Nigeria is a secular state!


Ramadan Kareem

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Re: Obasanjo Not Jonathan Responsible For Boko Haram- Gen Gumi by OteDOLLAR(m): 6:05am On Jun 18, 2015
noblezone:
the political Sharia was a bait against. OBJ and his government. Yerima and his likes dared OBJ, they set a trap for him. The man understood and delibrately shyed away from the issue of political Sharia. If he did not, the Islamists up north, woyld had labelled him anti Islam. Thw political sharia was their reaponse to the loss of power at the centre. Its easy for Gumi to talk now. Why didnt he stand up against the likes of Yerima as at then?when we say Nigeria cannot work in its present structure, we are called tribalists, bigots and haters. We can either stand up now and do wahy we have to do or keep shying away from the truth. Time is running out.

Sharia is not only operated in the North...it is well recognized by the Nigerian constitution (1999) which was initiated under the xPOBJ dispensation
Re: Obasanjo Not Jonathan Responsible For Boko Haram- Gen Gumi by OteDOLLAR(m): 6:12am On Jun 18, 2015
senier007:
there is a difference between the person that is responsible for this mess and failure to curtail the issue, Obj was responsible while Jone fail to do a simple job, arresting the situation while it's still young, he play politics with the whole issue and it ends up consuming him, the writer tries to go back to history to blame who is responsible and the way forward. If PMB fail to defeat them after 4years he will also be part of those people that fail to finished what Obj allowed to fester so long.


Jonah failed to do a simple job indeed!!! Y did OBJ allow it to manifest anyway.... If that is d assertion, OBJ should b tried for unjustly allowing d growth of terror.


Can u b sure Baba Obasanjo/Buhari/Babangida/Yerima are not privy to many things even PGEJ doesn't know??
Re: Obasanjo Not Jonathan Responsible For Boko Haram- Gen Gumi by senier007(m): 6:25am On Jun 18, 2015
OteDOLLAR:



Jonah failed to do a simple job indeed!!! Y did OBJ allow it to manifest anyway.... If that is d assertion, OBJ should b tried for unjustly allowing d growth of terror.


Can u b sure Baba Obasanjo/Buhari/Babangida/Yerima are not privy to many things even PGEJ doesn't know??
Bros, you don't go round looking for people to blame when your are in charge! Jona refused to listen to the voice of reasoning, he made it know to all that must of his advisers are dull i.e they misled him into making a wrong decision, judging by his utterance he has failed a simple job of securing the lfe and properties of his citizens, he has the army, police and intelligence community under his fold for good 6years as the man in charge and u still think he is. In the loop? That's shows nothing but vindictive that naija people were right to send him parking.
Re: Obasanjo Not Jonathan Responsible For Boko Haram- Gen Gumi by Nobody: 6:36am On Jun 18, 2015
OteDOLLAR:


Sharia is not only operated in the North...it is well recognized by the Nigerian constitution (1999) which was initiated under the xPOBJ dispensation
That was why i said, politival sharia. The northen leaders used sharia to play dity politics. That is the fruit we are reaping today.
Re: Obasanjo Not Jonathan Responsible For Boko Haram- Gen Gumi by Nobody: 6:46am On Jun 18, 2015
senier007:

Bros, you don't go round looking for people to blame when your are in charge! Jona refused to listen to the voice of reasoning, he made it know to all that must of his advisers are dull i.e they misled him into making a wrong decision, judging by his utterance he has failed a simple job of securing the lfe and properties of his citizens, he has the army, police and intelligence community under his fold for good 6years as the man in charge and u still think he is. In the loop? That's shows nothing but vindictive that naija people were right to send him parking.
it is very easy to conclude who was at fault on this matter but the way i see it, it was a complex situation. Are you talking about police and the army? Are you not aware that many of them were working behind the scenes for BH? Even when Jonathan declared state of emergency, didnt the Northern leaders say he had declared war againt the North? Bros, there was sabotage. T
Re: Obasanjo Not Jonathan Responsible For Boko Haram- Gen Gumi by 500GP: 6:56am On Jun 18, 2015
noblezone:
bros, BH was already attacking Government institutions, killing police men in the days of OBJ. Why was Yusuf arrested in the first place?


YOU'RE WRONG... BOKOHARAM STARTED ITS INSURGENCY DURING YARADUA'S REGIME AFTER THE KILLING OF THEIR LEADER....... NOT IN OBJ'S REGIME AND YUSUF WAS ARRESTED DURING YARADUA'S REGIME NOT IN OBJ...........
Re: Obasanjo Not Jonathan Responsible For Boko Haram- Gen Gumi by senier007(m): 6:57am On Jun 18, 2015
noblezone:
it is very easy to conclude who was at fault on this matter but the way i see it, it was a complex situation. Are you talking about police and the army? Are you not aware that many of them were working behind the scenes for BH? Even when Jonathan declared state of emergency, didnt the Northern leaders say he had declared war againt the North? Bros, there was sabotage. T
Then my Bros you are paranoid, imagine, as a leader saboteurs and bad belle is expected, it's your duty to manage and purged them not to allow them to drag you 2ru the mud, if you can't prevail over your enemies you have no business being a leader, that's why it's ur sole right to appoint and fire any. Head of organisation and not to keep blaming everyone except you. You are a winner when you subdue and make your enemy fear and bowdown.
Re: Obasanjo Not Jonathan Responsible For Boko Haram- Gen Gumi by cooljude(m): 7:11am On Jun 18, 2015
500GP:
OBASANJO IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR BOKOHARAM INSURGENCY..

IT STARTED DURING YARADUA'S REGIME BY THE THE RECKLESS KILLING OF THE FIRST BOKOHARAM LEADER IN THE POLICE CUSTODY.....

GEJ FAILED AS A PRESIDENT TO CURB THE INSURGENCY...

HOW DOES ENFORCEMENT OF SHARIA LAW LEAD TO BOKOHARAM? SHARIA LAW IS PART AND PARCEL OF ISLAMIC RELIGION.....



#IT MAY BE TO LATE NOW TO CONTROL THE INSURGENCY BECAUSE OF THE IMMEDIATE PAST REGIME...
Can't you comprehend the message or maybe you are just biased. The writer is trying to pass a message that if OBJ had acted on some decisive things when he was in power, this dragon would have been destroyed at its infant stage. The north also have to be blamed for its attitude when this monster was still growing. OBJ as the president of Nigeria should had never allowed any section of the country practice any law contrary to the law of Nigeria.
Re: Obasanjo Not Jonathan Responsible For Boko Haram- Gen Gumi by Nobody: 7:11am On Jun 18, 2015
MizMyColi:
So, he's inadvertently saying Obasanjo might have knowingly given Boko Haram a free reign to serve the purposes of some higher power.

Could this higher power be the same people who refused selling weapons to Oga Jona and blocked avenues from which he could source?

Is that why they rammed in on the SA arms deal and made him look even worse?


It is too early to think that Nigeria has truly entered one chance....

We will keep observing and taking notes.
you typed this comment @ 1am, don't you sleep?

The truth about BH was because of the North who have held power for so long denied their people basic western education which would have given them a sense of enlightenment.

Obj was not ready to fight political Islam because he knew that the North was using it as a bait to destabilise his govt.
I'm only pained because when BH rampage was threatening GEJ's govt he didn't see through the veil of those fifth elements that tried to destabilise his govt rather he worked with them to truncate GEJ's govt. It goes a long way to show the level of betrayal in his DNA.

Why should political and militant Islam rear its head when Southerners are in govt?

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Re: Obasanjo Not Jonathan Responsible For Boko Haram- Gen Gumi by 500GP: 7:25am On Jun 18, 2015
cooljude:
Can't you comprehend the message or maybe you are just biased. The writer is trying to pass a message that if OBJ had acted on some decisive things when he was in power, this dragon would have been destroyed at its infant stage. The north also have to be blamed for its attitude when this monster was still growing. OBJ as the president of Nigeria should had never allowed any section of the country practice any law contrary to the law of Nigeria.

WHY SHOULDN'T THEY PRACTICE WHAT'S IN THEIR HOLY BOOK QURAN? DIDN'T THEY'VE THE RIGHT TO PRACTICE THEIR SHARIA LAW?
THINGS HAVE BEEN GOING ON SMOOTHLY UNTIL THE KILLING OF MOHAMMED YUSUF...........
Re: Obasanjo Not Jonathan Responsible For Boko Haram- Gen Gumi by Nobody: 7:39am On Jun 18, 2015
senier007:
there is a difference between the person that is responsible for this mess and failure to curtail the issue, Obj was responsible while Jone fail to do a simple job, arresting the situation while it's still young, he play politics with the whole issue and it ends up consuming him, the writer tries to go back to history to blame who is responsible and the way forward. If PMB fail to defeat them after 4years he will also be part of those people that fail to finished what Obj allowed to fester so long.
can you please tell us how without the help of the north GEJ would have effectively being able to curb the islamic insurgents?...

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Re: Obasanjo Not Jonathan Responsible For Boko Haram- Gen Gumi by Nobody: 7:45am On Jun 18, 2015
Boko haram started during Thief Obasanjo's reign

OPC also started then

As did MOSSAB

Thief Obasanjo was preparing to assist his imperialist masters break up Nigeria, but was unexpectedly denied the third time he required to accomplish it.
Re: Obasanjo Not Jonathan Responsible For Boko Haram- Gen Gumi by coolzeal(m): 7:45am On Jun 18, 2015
It's not Biafra's nightmare but Nigeria's. Apparently, the North are only facing what they created for themselves. Karma is a nasty little b.itch.
Re: Obasanjo Not Jonathan Responsible For Boko Haram- Gen Gumi by dayo23(f): 8:02am On Jun 18, 2015
Not Obj fault, It the northern fault! Killing of Muhammed Yusuf was the beginning of BH terrorism.
Re: Obasanjo Not Jonathan Responsible For Boko Haram- Gen Gumi by Nobody: 8:43am On Jun 18, 2015
senier007:

Then my Bros you are paranoid, imagine, as a leader saboteurs and bad belle is expected, it's your duty to manage and purged them not to allow them to drag you 2ru the mud, if you can't prevail over your enemies you have no business being a leader, that's why it's ur sole right to appoint and fire any. Head of organisation and not to keep blaming everyone except you. You are a winner when you subdue and make your enemy fear and bowdown.
I wish you can get to the seat of the Presidecy of Nigeria today, so you can have a taste of the whole mess.

Buhari has taken over, let us see how far he can go.

Yet let me say this, there is nothing the Police or government can do over a woman who has decided to feed her husband with rat poison. So, there is nothing you can do about a suicide bomber. The USA with all her sophistication could not defeat the insurgency in IRAQ neither could they defeat the Taliban in Afghanistan,

When you have Moslems in all works of life supporting the Boko Haram, even Buhari cannot do anything about it.

Time will tell.
Re: Obasanjo Not Jonathan Responsible For Boko Haram- Gen Gumi by Blackfire(m): 9:05am On Jun 18, 2015
500GP:
OBASANJO IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR BOKOHARAM INSURGENCY..

IT STARTED DURING YARADUA'S REGIME BY THE THE RECKLESS KILLING OF THE FIRST BOKOHARAM LEADER IN THE POLICE CUSTODY.....

GEJ FAILED AS A PRESIDENT TO CURB THE INSURGENCY...

HOW DOES ENFORCEMENT OF SHARIA LAW LEAD TO BOKOHARAM? SHARIA LAW IS PART AND PARCEL OF ISLAMIC RELIGION.....



#IT MAY BE TO LATE NOW TO CONTROL THE INSURGENCY BECAUSE OF THE IMMEDIATE PAST REGIME...

islam is a disease
Re: Obasanjo Not Jonathan Responsible For Boko Haram- Gen Gumi by MizMyColi(f): 9:05am On Jun 18, 2015
ECOTERRORS:
you typed this comment @ 1am, don't you sleep?

The truth about BH was because of the North who have held power for so long denied their people basic western education which would have given them a sense of enlightenment.

Obj was not ready to fight political Islam because he knew that the North was using it as a bait to destabilise his govt.
I'm only pained because when BH rampage was threatening GEJ's govt he didn't see through the veil of those fifth elements that tried to destabilise his govt rather he worked with them to truncate GEJ's govt. It goes a long way to show the level of betrayal in his DNA.

Why should political and militant Islam rear its head when Southerners are in govt?

Your question should be "didn't you sleep?" cheesy

Well, at some point, we really don't know what to believe.
What I am intuitively sure of is that BH has outside help.
Re: Obasanjo Not Jonathan Responsible For Boko Haram- Gen Gumi by Blackfire(m): 9:09am On Jun 18, 2015
noblezone:

I wish you can get to the seat of the Presidecy of Nigeria today, so you can have a taste of the whole mess.

Buhari has taken over, let us see how far he can go.

Yet let me say this, there is nothing the Police or government can do over a woman who has decided to feed her husband with rat poison. So, there is nothing you can do about a suicide bomber. The USA with all her sophistication could not defeat the insurgency in IRAQ neither could they defeat the Taliban in Afghanistan,

When you have Moslems in all works of life supporting the Boko Haram, even Buhari cannot do anything about it.

Time will tell.

islam is a disease
Re: Obasanjo Not Jonathan Responsible For Boko Haram- Gen Gumi by dokyOloye: 9:23am On Jun 18, 2015
dustmalik:

Get your facts right. He was arrested and killed in 2009. Was OBJ still the president at the time?
Boko haram was militant long b4 2009 when Yusuf was killed.Ask anybody living in Borno or Yobe.
Re: Obasanjo Not Jonathan Responsible For Boko Haram- Gen Gumi by senier007(m): 9:24am On Jun 18, 2015
noblezone:

I wish you can get to the seat of the Presidecy of Nigeria today, so you can have a taste of the whole mess.

Buhari has taken over, let us see how far he can go.

Yet let me say this, there is nothing the Police or government can do over a woman who has decided to feed her husband with rat poison. So, there is nothing you can do about a suicide bomber. The USA with all her sophistication could not defeat the insurgency in IRAQ neither could they defeat the Taliban in Afghanistan,

When you have Moslems in all works of life supporting the Boko Haram, even Buhari cannot do anything about it.

Time will tell.
Your are wrong on your premises so is your conclusion, it's true there is nothing police can do when a woman decides to feed rat poison to her family, but the fallacy here is, you are basin your conclusion on her actions, and we all know reactions and actions goes hand in hand, if there is no reaction there won't be action, take for instance, the woman was not allowed to voiced out her concern or someone decides to impose his will on her thinking she will come to terms with it or the husband is guilty of molestation, treating the woman like slave, all this will lead to such ending, as a leader or force, laws are made to forestall either future occurrences or before such things happen, laws are meant to serve as a deterrence to would-be, for that past 6years not a single member of BH was successfully tried and convicted! What does that tell you? Intelligence community have failed, criminals are allowed to walk free once they have friends in power a clear case is bode George; he was convicted and sentenced during Yar Adua regime only for him to gain his freedom with a hero welcome under jona, not a single person was convicted through out the mass cleansing and ethinic genocide that is happening in jos and taraba, what does that tell you? It's ok to be criminal cuz our laws can't punish you. A woman that serve rat poison to her husband supposed to be convicted and sentenced no matter how minor she is, No condition warrant anybody to take another man's life, and the process that leads to this woman committing such things must be thoroughly investigated and any culprit found wanted should also be sentence I don't believe in clemency when live is involved cuz the other person can't defend himself. Nobody should be and nobody is above the law
Re: Obasanjo Not Jonathan Responsible For Boko Haram- Gen Gumi by dokyOloye: 9:30am On Jun 18, 2015
senier007:
there is a difference between the person that is responsible for this mess and failure to curtail the issue, Obj was responsible while Jone fail to do a simple job, arresting the situation while it's still young, he play politics with the whole issue and it ends up consuming him, the writer tries to go back to history to blame who is responsible and the way forward. If PMB fail to defeat them after 4years he will also be part of those people that fail to finished what Obj allowed to fester so long.
Is it Jonathan that played politics wt Boko haram or northern leaders who at different times demanded d wtdrawal of soldiers from Maidugri,opposed state of emergency,demanded amnesty for Boko haram(sultan),claimed a fight against boko haram is a fight against d north(borno elders forum),demanded boko haram shld be left alone since ND militants had amnesty(pa Buhari),demanded d prosecution of Ihejirika who pushed boko haram out of the major cities in d north?
Very soon,all of U who conspired to boot GEJ out wt unbridled propaganda will have Ur reward.
Re: Obasanjo Not Jonathan Responsible For Boko Haram- Gen Gumi by dokyOloye: 9:33am On Jun 18, 2015
OteDOLLAR:


BOKO boys started Operation since baba Obasanjo's era

Obasanjo didn't create bokoharam, bt he allowed them to thrive long enough to develop into this monstrous team!

The enforcement of sharia in some states of d federation and indeed in the NIGERIAN CONSTITUTION itself encouraged the believe that the religion was marginalized thus it became imperative for d boko boys to stand tall!

The GEJ administration didn't kill Yusuf Muhammed! He was killed during Yar'adua's tenure when Goodluck Jonathan was a spare tyre in d running.

Afta Yusuf muhammed was murdered, the reign of terror took a new turn and we have this!

SOMEONE SHOULD SHOW ME A HANDING OVER NOTE GIVEN TO xPGEJ that could av highlighted d problem that BH presents? He sincerely had no idea what he was coming to meet+ it will b difficult for somebody of a non-military background to develop a idea to tackle those religious bigots

I AM A MUSLIM!!! Bt partial inclusion of Sharia in the Nigerian constitution iz the problem cos Nigeria is a secular state!


Ramadan Kareem
I have never seen a muslim who is as frank as U.
Thumbs up bro,this means there is still hope for Nigeria if there are still people like U.
Re: Obasanjo Not Jonathan Responsible For Boko Haram- Gen Gumi by dokyOloye: 9:37am On Jun 18, 2015
500GP:



YOU'RE WRONG... BOKOHARAM STARTED ITS INSURGENCY DURING YARADUA'S REGIME AFTER THE KILLING OF THEIR LEADER....... NOT IN OBJ'S REGIME AND YUSUF WAS ARRESTED DURING YARADUA'S REGIME NOT IN OBJ...........
Restrict Urself to what U know only.
Boko haram was already violent long b4 Yar'Adua only that d scale of violence wasn't much.
Google Sheik Jafar Adam's name and U will get a little idea of what I am saying.
Re: Obasanjo Not Jonathan Responsible For Boko Haram- Gen Gumi by cooljude(m): 3:50pm On Jun 18, 2015
500GP:


WHY SHOULDN'T THEY PRACTICE WHAT'S IN THEIR HOLY BOOK QURAN? DIDN'T THEY'VE THE RIGHT TO PRACTICE THEIR SHARIA LAW?
THINGS HAVE BEEN GOING ON SMOOTHLY UNTIL THE KILLING OF MOHAMMED YUSUF...........
The un-lawful killing of Yusuf was wrong, he should have been tried for disturbing public peace, intimidation and sometimes his members executed some notable cleric and different innocent Nigerians and so many other crimes that he was accused of.

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