true2god:
Sir I have a question for you. Can I carry a bible publicly in saudi arabia, the home of mohammed and the supreme headquaters of islam?

Ahmed4002:


Jihād is not simply the waging of war, as most people today understand. Jihād of the hand includes struggle by the sword ( Jihādun bis-sayf ), as when one fights the aggressor who attack you in
combative war. (note ) read the statement with an open mind
While is the other form of jihad always ignored and people think jihad is all about war.

we have about 14 jihad
Jihad of the Hand – Development of Civil
Society and Material Progress
Jihād of the hand includes the struggle to build
the nation through material development and
progress, including building up civil society,
acquiring and improving every aspect of
technology and societal progress in general. This
form of Jihād includes scientific discovery,
development of medicine, clinics and hospitals,
communication, transportation, and all necessary
underlying infrastructure for societal progress
and advancement, including educational
institutions. Building also means to open
opportunities to the poor through economic
programs and self empowerment.

WombRaiders:


Story.

Why then did Shekau take the time to show us a video of the girls learning to recite the Koran?

You are getting tangled with your own lies.

abduljabbar4:

Which lies? He was teaching the non-muslims. And its not every muslim that knows how to recite Qur'an. Shekau said the Qur'an told him to kill yet he can't prove it.

WombRaiders:


So if he was teaching the non Muslims so that implies that all those purported abducted girls in the video are actually Christians

abduljabbar4:

Which lies? He was teaching the non-muslims. And its not every muslim that knows how to recite Qur'an. Shekau said the Qur'an told him to kill yet he can't prove it.

abduljabbar4:

You think you bastards can defeat muslims? Try it and see.

WombRaiders:


Where is the copy pasta here?

I guess you mean these verses I have taken from the words of your Prophet


9:5 Slay the idolaters wherever you find them.

9:6 Those who submit and convert to Islam will be treated well. (Those who don't submit will be killed. See previous verse.)

9:7-9 Don't make treaties with non-Muslims. They are all evildoers and should not be trusted.

9:11 Treat converts to Islam well, but kill those who refuse to convert (see 9:5).

9:12-14 Fight the disbelievers! Allah is on your side; he will give you victory.

9:23 Don't make friends with your disbelieving family members. Those who do so are wrong-doers.

9:29 Fight against Christians and Jews "until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low."

9:33 The "Religion of Truth" (Islam) must prevail, by force if necessary, over all other religions.

9:41 Fight for Allah with your wealth and whatever weapons are available to you.

9:42 Those who refuse to fight for Allah (claiming they are unable) are liars who have destroyed their souls.

9:73 Fight the disbelievers and hypocrites. Be harsh with them. They are all going to hell anyway.

9:81-83 Those who refuse to give their wealth and lives to Allah will face the fire of hell.

9:85 Those who refuse to fight for Allah will be treated (along with their children) as unbelievers.

9:111 Believers must fight for Allah. They must kill and be killed. Allah will reward them for it.

9:123 Fight disbelievers who are near you, and let them see the harshness in you.

amaben2020:


Islam is already dead, everyone hates you guys, oh what a pity, chai, sorry it's not my fault you are a Muslim

abduljabbar4:

Where in the Qur'an did you read that muslims should force others to accept Islam? And please there's nothing hard to understand in the Qur'an. Somebody like shekau who claimed to be talking with Allah CANNOT be regarded as a muslim. Take a look at this quote

[s]Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things.
— trans. Yusuf Ali, Quran 2:256[/s]

Ahmed4002:
in addition to
chattelle post.

As the persecution continued, it became harder
and harder to bear, reaching its peak when the
Quraysh conspired against the life of the Noble
Messenger . At this time, it became imperative
that he migrate from Makkah to Madīnah, both
for his personal safety, for the very survival of
the new faith, and in an effort to avoid war.
Thus thirteen years after the commencement of
Qur’ān’s revelation, the Prophet ordered his
companions to emigrate to Madīnah.
Here we see that the Prophet did not engage in
repulsing the aggressive attacks against the
Muslims by his tribesmen, but sought to avoid
conflict and avoid their persecution by means of
migration.

abduljabbar4:

Oh my God! Can't he tell the muslims to read along? Sometimes I carry Qur'an and read a Surah that a 10 year old boy can read. A teacher can read out the alphabets and instruct his students to read after him

WombRaiders:
The Muslim Jesus, Isa who by the way shares no linguistic link just as we have Ibrahim for Abraham, Musa for Moses, Marryam for Mary, Adamu for Adam, Daoud for David, Yakubu for Jacob and so forth is proof that Islam shares no link to the same God of the Judeo-Christian faith.

Here is a summary of what the Muslim Jesus in the Koran is and why non Muslims especially Christians and Jews should understand why Islam and Muslims have declared war on us.

1.      Jesus is said to return to the earth in the last-days near a mosque in Damascus.
2.      He will arrive at a time when the Mahdi and his army will be preparing to pray.
3.      He will be offered to lead the prayer by the Mahdi, but will decline in direct deference to the Mahdi who Jesus declares to be the leader of the Muslims.
4.      He will then pray behind the Mahdi as a subordinate.
5.      He will be a faithful Muslim
6.      He will make pilgrimage to Mecca.
7.      He will visit Muhammad’s grave, and salute Muhammad, whereby Muhammad will return the salute from the grave.
8.      He will destroy Christianity.
9.      He will repeal the jizyah tax thus causing the only option for Jews and Christians to convert to Islam or die.
10.  He will establish Islamic Shari’ah (Law) throughout the entire earth.
11.  He will kill the Antichrist and his followers made up largely of Jews and women.
12.  He will remain on the earth for roughly forty years, during which time he will marry, have children and then die.

true2god:
Yes the meaning of jihad is literarily war against the infidels. That is the primary meaning of jihad as known and taught by the arab religio-cultural supremacist who see their religion and culture as superior to the rest of the world. The rest of the world which must be subjugated until all religion will be for allahh alone and mohammed his messenger (quran 9:29-30).

However modern jihad is also flexible to accomodate the environment islam finds itself. In the west muslims are few and outnumbers hence they dont usually go for offensive and physical jihad. In the US muslims use legal jihad, supervised by CAIR, to silence islamic critics while at the same time discourage fellow muslims from providing implicative evidence against muslims.

In place like pakistan, muslims also use legal jihad in form of blasphemy law to keep non-muslims silent and to even get rid of potential non-muslim enemy. Any blasphemy against islam\mohammed\allahh is punishable by death in pakistan, iran, sudan, saudi arabia, etc.

We also have educational and cultural jihad. This is the most modern form of jihad whereby saudi oil monies are used in promoting arabian and islamic cultures worldwide thereby threatning any local culture that it comes accross. The cultural jihad involves building of islamic centres, madrassas, mosques in non-muslim countries. Almost all these centres and mosques are financed by saudi arabia (for sunnis) or iran (for shia).

Another form of jihad is rich muslim countries sponsor of muslim militia groups against a non-muslim govt (or different islamic ideologies), like we have in the phillipine, nigeria, yemen, burma etc. This is to ensure that non-compalint non-muslim govt is forcefully brought down and a muslim friendly govt enthrone for allahh and his apostle.

So the context of jihad has evrything to do with arab quest for world cultural domination and the forceful or legal imposition of halal arabic system on weak or gullible culture and people. The only language the arabs and muslims (by extension) understand is strength, strong will and force if any people want to survive islamic invasion.

The russian, the japanese and the chinese understand islam more than the rest of the world.

Ahmed4002:



So Jihād in its combative sense did not come about
until after the Prophet and his Companions were
forced to leave theircountry and hometown of
Makkah, fleeing for safety to in Madīnah
after thirteen years of propagating the call to
the faith and calling for freedom of belief.
They were oppressed by their enemies and expelled by them from their homes unjustly for no reason except that they practice the religion of Allah and say, “Our Lord is Allah.” They then came under the obligation to take back the country from which they had been expelled.
there are fourteen
different categories of Jihād, only one of which
entails fighting. Since it is this, the combative
Jihād, which is now so much the focus of this
paper we will now speak on the principles of such
combat, who can declare combative Jihād and
the reasons Muslims fight.
Combative Jihād was authorized only after the
Prophet migrated along with his followers from
Makkah to Madīnah, having been persecuted and
finally expelled from their country running from
persecution and torture. This is not unlike what
we see today: people running from persecution
in their home countries, becoming refugees in
foreign nations. And the supporters, al-Anšār,
of Madīnah, welcomed the refugees al-
Muhājirūn, and shared with them all they
possessed of their wealth and their homes.
The struggle in the way of Allah, Jihādun fī
sabīlillāh, when the Prophet began by teaching
the Qur’ān in his country, Makkah, was primarily
one of enlightenment and education while in
Madīnah his message became the basis for a
model constitution for civic society and social
life. This is borne out by the emphasis the
Prophet made on caring for the poor, the
emancipation of slaves, giving rights to women
and building a civic society by levying taxes on
the rich to benefit the poor, establishing
community centers and community homes in
which people could meet. These teachings were
brought to a society in Makkah in which anarchy
ruled and for this reason the Prophet was
persecuted and fled to Madīnah. There he was
able to establish a nation-state based on
freedom of speech, and freedom of religion
where all religions flourished together without
conflict.

true2god:
Sir I have a question for you. Can I carry a bible publicly in saudi arabia, the home of mohammed and the supreme headquaters of islam?

WombRaiders:
[size=18pt]The Myth: Muhammad was Tortured by the Meccans[/size]

The Truth:

This never happened.  Unlike some of his less fortunate followers, Muhammad enjoyed the protection of his powerful uncle, Abu Talib:
[The leading men of Mecca] went to Abu Tablib [and said] “Your nephew has cursed our gods, insulted our religion, mocked our way of life and accused our forefathers of error. Either you must stop him or you must let us get at him”
But Abu Talib would not relent:
The apostle continued on his way… In consequence, his relations with the Quraish [Meccans] deteriorated and men withdrew from him in enmity. (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 168).
For thirteen years, the worst that ever happened to Muhammad at Mecca was that he had dust thrown on him by a heckler and was occasionally mocked while praying at the Kaaba.  He continued to provoke the Meccans, at one point telling them that he had come to bring them "slaughter" (Tabari Vol. IV, page 101)  This caused them to seize Muhammad in an attempt (by one named Uqba) to "throttle" him, but he was released unharmed almost immediately:
Then they left him. That is the worst that I ever saw the Quraish do to him. (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 184).
I asked 'Abdullah bin 'Amr bin Al-'As to inform me of the worst thing the pagans had done to Allah's Apostle. He said: "While Allah's Apostle was praying in the courtyard of the ka'ba, 'Uqba bin Abi Mu'ait came and seized Allah's Apostle by the shoulder and twisted his garment round his neck and throttled him severely. Abu Bakr came and seized 'Uqba's shoulder and threw him away from Allah's Apostle and said, "Would you kill a man because he says: 'My Lord is Allah,' and has come to you with clear Signs from your Lord?" (Bukhari 60:339)

Though not injured, Muhammad would have his opportunity to forgive the man who had seized him when Uqba was captured following the Battle of Badr.  According to his biographers, the prophet of Islam chose instead to have him slaughtered even as the unarmed prisoner begged for his life.

The Hadith also confirms that Muhammad was not physically harmed by the Meccans:
Allah's Apostle said, "Doesn't it astonish you how Allah protects me from the Quraish's abusing and cursing?  They abuse Mudhammam and curse Mudhammam while I am Muhammad (and not Mudhammam)" (Bukhari 56:733)
As mentioned in several places, the worst indignity that Muhammad endured was an episode in which Abu Jahl and others mocked him while he was praying by putting the intestines of an animal on his back (Bukhari 4:241).  The men who did this were later killed by the Muslims.

Neither does the Quran provide any support for the contemporary thesis that Muhammad suffered physical abuse at Mecca, despite the many harsh things said about those who rejected him - the redundancy of which is so abundant in the Quran that it comprises the majority of the text. 
There is also an entire Sura is devoted to describing the gruesome and sadistic torture awaiting Abu Lahab and his wife in hell, who are the only people mentioned by name in the Qur'an (other than Muhammad, of course).  Yet, according to the authentic Hadith, their only crime was personal mockery of "the Messenger" at Mecca (Muslim 406, Bukhari 60:475).

Ahmed4002:
Buhari have said it all. yes there are not Muslim.

The leader is the one who has been elected to administer the foreign policy of his nation, and he has been entrusted by the people to conduct the common affairs of the state, sign treaties, forbid wrong deeds, suppress criminals, fight aggressors, and settle people down in their homes and the like.
This specific duty can never devolve to a group
of people living in a country who come against a
government by terrifying innocent citizens. It is
not acceptable in Islam by any means for
someone to declare combative war if he is not in
the position of leadership.
The many aforementioned rulings of scholars
and the many verses of Qur’ān and hadith
citation expose the methods of the so-called
“Islamic parties”' who establish states within the
state and act as if they are the rightful rulers
of Muslims.
Their methodology is to initiate war by attacking
non-Muslims in their country or other countries,
and they do this without the permission of the
Muslim rulers or the Muslim nation and without
the consensus of its scholars. What happens
then? The result is that everyone suffers from
the disastrous consequences of their actions.

so disregard bokoharam as Muslim.
as they target everyone

WombRaiders:


Can you go and preach this sermon to Shekau and his gang?

abduljabbar4:

So if boko haram was created to tarnish gej then what are they still doing now? And please boko haram was at first not created to cause any sectarian war.we know how they started. They were graduates who burnt their certificates and declared that western education is haram without any proof.
Boko haram will claim to be fighting christianity and bomb mosques

They claim to fight western education and yet bomb villages where there is no single school.
Let's stop decieving ourselves

Ahmed4002:


go make research. how many Christian working with Saudi aramco and also those studying petroleum related courses in king fahad university. whether they prevent them from practising Christianity.

Their honor and rights are under the protection
of Islām and they are given freedom to the
right of deliberation and discussions within the
limits of reason and decorum, while adhering
to respect, good conduct and avoiding rudeness
and harshness.

This also shows that even if unbelievers come to
the Muslims, seeking to live and work in their
nation for any reason, it is ordered to grant
them safety and security to demonstrate the
great care and compassion Islam takes in the
care of others. Then such are free to move
where they like.