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Re: How Foreign Religions Ruined Our Societies by Nobody: 7:48pm On Jul 12, 2015
Ahmed4002:

Islam is acknowledging that God is the only one
deserving of worship, that there will be a Day of
Judgment. Islam is to acknowledge the existence
of the angels with the duty of revealing the
divine messages to the prophets—controlling the
winds, the oceans and to take the life of those
God ordered to die. Acknowledging that all the
Prophets of God were righteous men and were
all sent by God, and acknowledging that there
will definitely be a day of resurrection after
death, and that all good and evil has been
proportioned by God. In Islam is to uphold strict
monotheism- Not to worship any partners
besides God, not to say anything about God that
you have no right to say—this means: not to say
that He has a father, a mother, a son, an aunt
or even a board of trustees—not to say
anything about God that you have no right to
say. To bear witness, this means that you
sentence yourself either to peace and Paradise
or, in declining, to a state of confusion,
frustration and ultimately hellfire and
punishment. You sentence yourself—you ask
yourself, “Do I bear witness that there is only
one God?

Normal
people who followed Moses were not called
Mosesans, or the people who followed Jacob were
not called Jacobeans, and the people who
followed Abraham were not called Abrahamians.
So how do people call themselves Christians?
Christ never called himself a Christian. We have
to be Christ-like. What was Christ like? He was
a servant of Almighty God. So we have to be
servants of God. That’s all. As the final
revelation of God, the Quran makes a very clear
and concise statement: “This day I have
perfected for you your religion, bestowed my
favor upon you and chosen ‘Islam’, for you, as a
complete way of life.” So through the Quran,
the word ‘Islam’ came.
What a clever way of dodging my questions.
Your back-up points don't hold anything therefore are considered void.
This is no way of arguing intellectually. You're strategically diverting, manoeuvering and imposing factual tendecies just to siut your motives.
First answer my subsequent questions, then we can start from there.
And if I may ask: when you say God, are you referring to Allah or what?
Be precise please.

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Re: How Foreign Religions Ruined Our Societies by Nobody: 8:31pm On Jul 12, 2015
Ahmed4002:

First, the Quran is a revelation from Allah, it says “that Muhammad is not speaking form his own opinions, ambitions, emotions or feelings, but this is a revelation, which is being revealed to him.” For anyone to be convinced of the authenticity of the Quran, we must first prove that it was impossible for Muhammad to have come up with it; and secondly, we must also prove that it was impossible for any other human agency to have written it. Let us think about this. The Quran makes the statement: "And we created the human being from a hanging clot in the womb." How did the Prophet know that the embryo started out as a clot hanging and clinging to the wall of the uterus of the mother? Did he have some kind of x-ray vision? How did he receive this knowledge when it was just discovered by scientists 47 years ago? How did he know that oceans have a barrier between them to separate the salt and the fresh water? How did he know that the sun and the moon and all the planets are in orbits? These are all mentioned in the Quran. How did he know this 1400 years ago, when our technology and science is giving us access to the information now? An uneducated shepherd, a man raised in the desert, a man unable to read or to write—how could he produce something like this, how could he say something like this? And how could anyone living with him or afterwards produce something that has just been discovered recently? Impossible. How can a man who never left the Arabian Peninsula, who never sailed on a ship, who lived fifteen centuries ago make such clear descriptions that have been discovered the second half of the 20th century? Also let me tell you, the Quran has 114 chapters and over 6000 verses. And there were many people in the time of the prophet who memorized this book entirely. How does that happen? Did anyone memorize the Bible, the Torah, the Psalms? Nobody, no one—not even the Pope. But there are millions of Muslims today who have memorized the entire Qura—the entire book!
You're just running around repeated circles.
My facts are clear, concrete and solid.
All your efforts are geared at brainwashing me to receive and believe the bullshyte of Islam.
But I rise to say NO! I refused to be blindfolded.
I stand for truth! Nothing more nothing less.

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Re: How Foreign Religions Ruined Our Societies by malvisguy212: 9:19pm On Jul 12, 2015
plaetton:


Correction sir,
Atheism is not a practice. There is nothing to practice.

Atheism is simply being impervious to religious bullshyte.
I don't care to know what atheism mean, anyway thank you for the correction. But do you understand my point? Do you agree ?
Re: How Foreign Religions Ruined Our Societies by malvisguy212: 9:31pm On Jul 12, 2015
Ahmed4002:


The scripture that Muhammad came with is
called the Quran; which literally means, “that
which is recited.” Because Muhammad (pbuh) did
not write the Quran, he did not author it. But,
the angel Gabriel came and recited it to him
and Allah made his heart a receptacle to that,
just as a satellite is receptive of waves and
gives you images. Is there any other book in the
history of the world that you know of that has
been preserved, without the changing of even a
dot? No book—only the Quran. Don’t take my
word for it. Go to the library and read any
encyclopedia -read what it says about Islam,
Muhammad (pbuh), and the Quran. Read what
non-Muslims say about Islam, the Quran and
Muslims. Then you will see that what I am saying
is universally documented; that Muhammad
(pbuh) was the most profound individual in the
history of humanity. Profound why? Read what
non-Muslims have said. The Quran is the most
profound piece of literature in history. Read
what they said. Islamic life is so comprehensive,
precise and dynamic that it has never changed.
Read what they said. All of the previous
prophets, their scriptures and their stories and
the principle message they came with are
mentioned in the Quran with profound detail.
Did Muhammad (pbuh) meet them, talk with
them, and collaborate with them to write their
biographies? No, of course he didn’t. In the
Quran, the prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is
referred to as the messenger of God, and that
is his limit as a human being. Muslims do not
worship Muhammad-they are not Mohammedans.
We have no right to take the name Muhammad
and claim that we are Mohammedans.
The Qur’an is based completely on the personal experiences of one illiterate man spanning a period of 23 years.Only one person allegedly saw the
“angel.”Only one person allegedly heard a voice. The entire faith is limited to one book with only one person who allegedly received the vision. There is absolutely no way to verify anything. Our question is, “Does not this then mean that the only way to become a Muslim is to take this one man’s word for it?”

It was his wife kadijah who had NO knowledge of God, she was a BUSINESS woman, she was the one who convinced muhammed, what he saw was an angel , she was never a eyewitne.
Re: How Foreign Religions Ruined Our Societies by Nobody: 11:13pm On Jul 12, 2015
Dnarvaez:

I have nothing to prove to a certified m0ron whos cognitive ability is abysmally poor!

STFU! and stop trying to play smart. all you have to do is to prove him wrong muhfucka
Re: How Foreign Religions Ruined Our Societies by Ahmed4002(m): 1:56am On Jul 13, 2015
malvisguy212:
The Qur’an is based completely on the personal experiences of one illiterate man spanning a period of 23 years.Only one person allegedly saw the
“angel.”Only one person allegedly heard a voice. The entire faith is limited to one book with only one person who allegedly received the vision. There is absolutely no way to verify anything. Our question is, “Does not this then mean that the only way to become a Muslim is to take this one man’s word for it?”

It was his wife kadijah who had NO knowledge of God, she was a BUSINESS woman, she was the one who convinced muhammed, what he saw was an angel , she was never a eyewitne.

For anyone to be convinced of the
authenticity of the Quran, we must first prove
that it was impossible for Muhammad to have
come up with it; and secondly, we must also
prove that it was impossible for any other
human agency to have written it. Let us think
about this. The Quran makes the statement:
"And we created the human being from a
hanging clot in the womb." How did the Prophet
know that the embryo started out as a clot
hanging and clinging to the wall of the uterus
of the mother? Did he have some kind of x-ray
vision? How did he receive this knowledge when
it was just discovered by scientists 47 years
ago? How did he know that oceans have a
barrier between them to separate the salt and
the fresh water? How did he know that the sun
and the moon and all the planets are in orbits?
These are all mentioned in the Quran. How did
he know this 1400 years ago, when our
technology and science is giving us access to the
information now? An uneducated shepherd, a
man raised in the desert, a man unable to read
or to write—how could he produce something like
this, how could he say something like this? And
how could anyone living with him or afterwards
produce something that has just been discovered
recently? Impossible. How can a man who never
left the Arabian Peninsula, who never sailed on a
ship, who lived fifteen centuries ago make such
clear descriptions that have been discovered the
second half of the 20th century?

In Islam is to uphold strict
monotheism- Not to worship any partners
besides God, not to say anything about God that
you have no right to say—this means: not to say
that He has a father, a mother, a son, an aunt
or even a board of trustees—not to say
anything about God that you have no right to
say. To bear witness, this means that you
sentence yourself either to peace and Paradise
or, in declining, to a state of confusion,
frustration and ultimately hellfire and
punishment. You sentence yourself—you ask
yourself, “Do I bear witness that there is only
one God?

But the religion of Islam is not just limited to
the Noble Quran's Revelations, especially to
those who never heard of Islam, or Islam was
unfortunately misrepresented to them.

I will also demonstrated how Prophet Muhammad was
Prophesied in the Bible, and how he is the
Final and Special Prophet that was going to be
sent to all of mankind, according to the Bible
itself. The Bible in the Old and New Testaments
made DIRECT Prophecies about:

Also in the New Testament, Christ is recorded to
have said this to the Jews: "So [For this reason;
Therefore] I tell you that the kingdom of God
will be taken away from you and given to people
[a nation] who do the things God wants in his
kingdom [will produce its fruit]." ( Matthew
21:43 ).

The Prophet who will come from the lands and
"tents of Kedar" and "lands of Teman" . Kedar
and Teman (also called "Tema" in the Bible) are
two of Ishmael's sons: Genesis 25:13-15 .
Re: How Foreign Religions Ruined Our Societies by Ahmed4002(m): 1:58am On Jul 13, 2015
Dnarvaez:

You're just running around repeated circles.
My facts are clear, concrete and solid.
All your efforts are geared at brainwashing me to receive and believe the bullshyte of Islam.
But I rise to say NO! I refused to be blindfolded.
I stand for truth! Nothing more nothing less.

what's your fact?
you asked what is the quran all about and it's authenticity, then what is Islam?
Re: How Foreign Religions Ruined Our Societies by Nobody: 7:50am On Jul 13, 2015
Ahmed4002:


what's your fact?
you asked what is the quran all about and it's authenticity, then what is Islam?
Who wrote the quran?
Re: How Foreign Religions Ruined Our Societies by Ahmed4002(m): 7:56am On Jul 13, 2015
Dnarvaez:
Who wrote the quran?
you know believe is a choice but segregating or differring between right and wrong is a wisdom.
Re: How Foreign Religions Ruined Our Societies by Nobody: 8:00am On Jul 13, 2015
Ahmed4002:


you know believe is a choice but
segregating or differring between right and
wrong is a wisdom.

Hahaha. You're really skilled at twisting & retwisting things to try to confuse me and becloud my mind.
Nice try I say.
Keep it up!
Re: How Foreign Religions Ruined Our Societies by malvisguy212: 8:38am On Jul 13, 2015
Ahmed4002.
According to the quran:
It is he who has created man from
WATER
-- Sura 25:54
And God has created EVERY LIVING
CREATURES FROM WATER.
-- Sura 24:45
We created man from SOUNDING CLAY ,
from mud moulded into shape.
-- Sura 15:26
Amongst his signs is this,
that he created you from DUST.
-- Sura 30:20
Proclaim!
In the name of thy Lord and
Cherisher, who created -
created man, out of a mere CLOT OF
CONGEALED BLOOD -- Sura 96:1-2
Water,clot of blood,sounding clay, dust.
Which is correct? All what you claimed , the bible which exist way long before the quran had already made such claimed, do you want me to provide verses for you ? The bible is not written for the purpose of science but how men can choose to love God or reject Him .click my profile and chose any thread read it and see for your self, let discuss.
Re: How Foreign Religions Ruined Our Societies by Ahmed4002(m): 8:53am On Jul 13, 2015
malvisguy212:
Ahmed4002.
According to the quran:
It is he who has created man from
WATER
-- Sura 25:54
And God has created EVERY LIVING
CREATURES FROM WATER.
-- Sura 24:45
We created man from SOUNDING CLAY ,
from mud moulded into shape.
-- Sura 15:26
Amongst his signs is this,
that he created you from DUST.
-- Sura 30:20
Proclaim!
In the name of thy Lord and
Cherisher, who created -
created man, out of a mere CLOT OF
CONGEALED BLOOD -- Sura 96:1-2
Water,clot of blood,sounding clay, dust.
Which is correct? All what you claimed , the bible which exist way long before the quran had already made such claimed, do you want me to provide verses for you ? The bible is not written for the purpose of science but how men can choose to love God or reject Him .click my profile and chose any thread read it and see for your self, let discuss.

Allah Says in the Holy Quran Chapter 32
Surah Sajdah verses 7-8:
7 He Who has made everything which
He has created most Good. He began the
creation of man with (nothing more than)
clay
8 And made his progeny from a
quintessence of the nature of a fluid
despised:
All the Aayahs of the Glorious Quran quoted
my friend are nothing more than the
various stages of the creation of man.
The Lord Creator created the first man (Hadrat
Adam (a.s.)) from clay, and from Hadrat
Adam (a.s.) He created his wife (Hadrat
Hawwa), and their progeny or the rest of
mankind He created from a fluid despised
or sperm.
There are several verses in the Glorious
Quran which describe and some explain in
detail some of the various stages of the
creation of man, and Allah is our witness,
every verse is absolutely consistent with the
other.


will check your signature later in the day.
Off to work
Re: How Foreign Religions Ruined Our Societies by onetrack(m): 9:26am On Jul 13, 2015
plaetton:


LOL.

I don't give a rat's bottom about Islam .

But, I must say that from my lifelong experience, the average muslim is much more intelligent and much more knowledgable and much more honest than the average Christian.

Of course, there are many reasons for this.

One is that islam is a bona fide religion, like it or not, and makes no pretenses about what it stands for .

Christianity, on the hand is a fraudulently contrived mishmash of borrowed this and plagerized that, is founded, supported, and perpertuated by fraud and fraud alone.

I'm currently living in a country that is more than 90% Muslim and I can tell you that they are just as brainless as the Christians. So many of them believe all kinds of superstitions and blindly follow mallams, giving their money to them.

And no religion is bona fide; both Christianity and Islam are contrived mish-mashes of borrowed customs from other religions.

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