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Re: How Kenyan President Wisely Shut Down Obama On Gay Issue(video) by Symphony007: 2:17pm On Jul 26, 2015
jomoh:


What is this one saying?

The fact that they dont allow gay rights does it make them any less successful than the west. The likes of South Africa that supports gay rights does it make them more successful than the rest.

Don't link success with approval of gay rights or corruption. Russia does not support gay rights does it make them any less successful.

Gay rights is Evil and the devil is trying to make it look like it is freedom which is linked to success.

Uhuru couldn't put it more better. "Let us develop and get to your level before we start thinking of Gay rights. Right now we have more pressing issues than gay rights".

An Idle hand is the devils workshop. African countries are too busy struggling with development than allow devil to take over. USA has developed to an extent where they are now Idle(no more development), the only thing is for them to be used as a devils workshop to spread evil all over the world.
you can boliviate all you want but the fact remains if Africans channel all their hate for gays who have done them no harm to the wicked leaders who are responsible for their sufferings and death, their lives might improve.
Re: How Kenyan President Wisely Shut Down Obama On Gay Issue(video) by Bollinger(m): 2:18pm On Jul 26, 2015
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Majority: greater number or part
Whole: all of something

common sense: a name that in itself contradicts its self meant to describe a view that be reasonably expected of nearly all people without any need for debate

Common sense? Really? Ever asked yourself why decade after decade You all still manage to have the same leaders with practically the same attributes? If the majority of people in Nigeria where normal, at least by now you would picked someone amongst yourselves who would at least be above average. Ever think about that?
Re: How Kenyan President Wisely Shut Down Obama On Gay Issue(video) by AprokoMan: 2:18pm On Jul 26, 2015
for the first time I saw Obama stammer while making a speech grin
Re: How Kenyan President Wisely Shut Down Obama On Gay Issue(video) by oshaosha2014(m): 2:19pm On Jul 26, 2015
successinlife:
People say gay decision or conviction don't affect others, yet gays want to adopt children born by straights.Why can't gay have gay children?

They want our innocent children to be "open minded." They want to infest unborn generation with the idea that it is normal.
Re: How Kenyan President Wisely Shut Down Obama On Gay Issue(video) by refreshrate: 2:22pm On Jul 26, 2015
Bollinger:


Common sense? Really? Ever asked yourself why decade after decade You all still manage to have the same leaders with practically the same attributes? If the majority of people in Nigeria where normal, at least by now you would picked someone amongst yourselves who would at least be above average. Ever think about that?

The post still stands especially common sense point.
Seems you're in too much of a hurry to reply.
calm down it'll get to you.
Re: How Kenyan President Wisely Shut Down Obama On Gay Issue(video) by omonnakoda: 2:29pm On Jul 26, 2015
BuddhaPalm:



Kenyatta wasn't primarily praised for his command of English
, but for his articulation, grace, tactfulness and defiance...in the face of a far more powerful ally (dare I say, superior).


IdiAmin1:
Why can't Kenyans be proud of this man. Is it Charisma, command in English, communication skills, intelligence, diplomacy and above all, he is even more polished than Obama sef.

That is the quote I responded to

BuddhaPalm:
I strongly doubt Buhari or GEJ would come close in their respective native languages.

Pan Africanism? Maybe you don't know what it means. Is the issue in question not Africans vs ('Western imposed') Gay Rights?

Wiki: "Pan-Africanism as an ethical system traces its origins from ancient times, and promotes values that are the product of the African civilization and the struggles against slavery, racism, colonialism, and neo-colonialism.[6]"

And finally, without mincing words, a president of NIGERIA - a country with English as its OFFICIAL language - who cannot speak English, excellently, is very deficient.
You are being disingenuous with your selective and distorted quotes on what "pan-Africanism" is.
Pan-Africanisms is essentially an ideology promoting African unity,solidarity and oneness. That has nothing to do with what I am advocating here which is that people stop trying to be European and take pride in who and what they are in DIFFERENT parts of Africa


You are entitled to your opinion but the job of president is not speaking any language excellently .It is not an oratorial endeavour. I do not know what you mean by NATIVE LANGUAGE there is nothing Native about any language except in the eyes of colonialists and clearly it has impacted you to that extent you now call them "native" ,might I suggest you study the "colonial" meaning of the term "native".
Again we will differ on why he was praised but the "articulation" you talk about is the colonial thing I talk about ,an ersatz,hybrid accent that was not Kenyan and probably unintelligible to many ordinary Kenyans but perfect to European ears. I am not impressed by his articulation. What is important is the content of his speech. Nelson Mandela spoke with a very strong accent and never was he criticized for that. We are African and must not pretend to be something else.
You are disingenuous and dishonest in your quote on the definition of Pan-Africanism which essentially is an ideology that seeks to promote Oneness and solidarity among all African peoples and hopes to achieve borderlessness among African peoples. ,one of its earlier champions was the great ZIk. I am an anticolonialist that does not make me Pan-African. It is not a complex term. The word "Pan" is quite simple
Re: How Kenyan President Wisely Shut Down Obama On Gay Issue(video) by jomoh: 2:31pm On Jul 26, 2015
Symphony007:
you can boliviate all you want but the fact remains if Africans channel all their hate for gays who have done them no harm to the wicked leaders who are responsible for their sufferings and death, their lives might improve.

We are trying to get rid of the disease before it becomes a way of life.

If we had been proactive with corruption, we wouldn't be here.
Re: How Kenyan President Wisely Shut Down Obama On Gay Issue(video) by Bollinger(m): 2:34pm On Jul 26, 2015
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The post still stands especially common sense point.
Seems you're in too much of a hurry to reply.
calm down it'll get to you.

As expected? A true Nigerian would not see reality even if it rolled up in a rolls royce and parked in their living room.
Re: How Kenyan President Wisely Shut Down Obama On Gay Issue(video) by ritux: 2:38pm On Jul 26, 2015
Symphony007:
NO! God bless obama for being true to his conviction, he should have even gone further to ask Africans why the punishment for gays is stiffer than corruption and which has been more detrimental to africa.

You are entitled to your own opinion and not your own facts. Those are the facts, you don't believe it, counter with better.

I agree with you on the punishment to corruption being nothing compared to gay. Those are part of the problems we have here in Africa and our dear Nigeria. We treat corruption with levity. That's why u see a thief of onion sentenced to 15yrs or more but the corrupt public holders sentenced to 6months imprisonment with the option of fine. I expect Obama to talk to us about issues like this and not asking us to support gay. Case study: while the Americans have punished those involved in the Halliburton scandal, Nigeria is yet to charge it's own citizens involved to court.

As per your facts, I don't know about it but I know for sure that Nigerians prefer to watch pornography that involves people of opposite sex than watching some crazy lesbians or gay.

Even you, I know u will prefer to watch a man and woman sex tape than watch a man&man or woman & woman sex tape.
Re: How Kenyan President Wisely Shut Down Obama On Gay Issue(video) by persius555(m): 2:39pm On Jul 26, 2015
Symphony007:
I applaud pres. Obama for standing by his conviction and bringing up this issue despite him knowing it is very toxic and divisive in Africa.

Kenyan's can keep basking in their hypocrisy!! We hate gays but we are among s the highest consumers of gay porn in the world. grin grin
Are you for real? You must be high on gay porn. Put a gun to your head and end your misery, now.
Re: How Kenyan President Wisely Shut Down Obama On Gay Issue(video) by refreshrate: 2:40pm On Jul 26, 2015
Bollinger:


As expected? A true Nigerian would not see reality even if it rolled up in a rolls royce and parked in their living room.

Let me help you see beyond your nose.

There's a difference between the two points which you tried to post as one.
Majority is and can never be the same as whole.

common sense means you my friend should apply wisdom when trying to make a point to certain people.
Majority & whole are not the same. Not sure what your countries language is, but in English albeit for those who have a clear understanding of & their meanings, you contradicted yourself.
Re: How Kenyan President Wisely Shut Down Obama On Gay Issue(video) by Bollinger(m): 2:41pm On Jul 26, 2015
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Let me help you see beyond your nose.

There's a difference between the two points which you tried to post as one.
Majority is and can never be the same as whole.

common sense means you my friend should apply wisdom when trying to make a point to certain people.
Majority & whole are not the same. Not sure what your countries language is, but in English albeit for those who have a clear understanding of & their meanings, you contradicted yourself.

Then how come you as a people have not been able to have one singe decent leader in over 4 decades?
Re: How Kenyan President Wisely Shut Down Obama On Gay Issue(video) by sanmibukunmi: 2:42pm On Jul 26, 2015
California1:
Bro uhuru us very intelligent and smart. ....I wish he is Nigeria president no one will ever complain at all ..He is well presented and well articulate. ...

Thanks to God Obama did not come to Nigeria because huhari will again put us to ashamed. .
Buhari did not understand English. ...


In Nigeria, we don't vote intelligent ppl...
Re: How Kenyan President Wisely Shut Down Obama On Gay Issue(video) by Bollinger(m): 2:44pm On Jul 26, 2015
sanmibukunmi:

In Nigeria, we don't vote intelligent ppl...

Because there are none to vote for.
Re: How Kenyan President Wisely Shut Down Obama On Gay Issue(video) by refreshrate: 2:44pm On Jul 26, 2015
Bollinger:


Then how come you as a people have not been able to have one singe decent leader in over 4 decades?

Where are you from please?
Re: How Kenyan President Wisely Shut Down Obama On Gay Issue(video) by BlueMagic2(m): 2:44pm On Jul 26, 2015
Enough respect for the kenya president. Obama will go down as the worst US president ever. He has totally killed it for the black man especially in the US. This fool of a president has nothing to offer Africa or the world as a whole. Americans are sick & tired of this joke. He has made America look real bad everywhere he goes. If obama drops dead today, millions of Americans will rejoice with joy at this empty head.

F U C k obama

One
Big
A$$
Mistake
America


ever made!!!!!
Re: How Kenyan President Wisely Shut Down Obama On Gay Issue(video) by Bollinger(m): 2:44pm On Jul 26, 2015
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Where are you from please?

Nigeria.
Re: How Kenyan President Wisely Shut Down Obama On Gay Issue(video) by refreshrate: 2:45pm On Jul 26, 2015
Bollinger:

Because there are none to vote for.
I've asked where are you from?
Re: How Kenyan President Wisely Shut Down Obama On Gay Issue(video) by Hardeks: 2:47pm On Jul 26, 2015
Wow!!! The downfall of america is at hand. Am sitting down, crossing my legs and having my hand under my jaw, busy smiling and watching how fast the time is running. OBAMA the great messenger of the DEVIL, you CANNOT win God
Re: How Kenyan President Wisely Shut Down Obama On Gay Issue(video) by Bollinger(m): 2:47pm On Jul 26, 2015
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I've asked where are you from?

Omo eko gan gan ni mi.
Re: How Kenyan President Wisely Shut Down Obama On Gay Issue(video) by Lexusgs430: 2:47pm On Jul 26, 2015
saxwizard:
I need sum1 who will summarise wats in the video

Obama - trying to spread the Gay message
Kenyan President - Rejecting Gay message, stating we Africans have more pressing issues. When we eventually overcome pressing issues, we can look @ other issues.

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Re: How Kenyan President Wisely Shut Down Obama On Gay Issue(video) by successinlife: 2:48pm On Jul 26, 2015
Sorry to use foul language,i am doing this for comprehension purposes, why would a man like man or woman like woman?i have read that while trying to have sex the she husband will use his hand to penetrate the she virgina and the he gay will sex the anus of a he she,but what for? men and women solve the riddles of this,my conclusion on gay is SATANIC initiation and nothing more.Ordinary people says you put a round log in a round hole and not put hole into hole or log into a log abi na spiritual blindness?
Re: How Kenyan President Wisely Shut Down Obama On Gay Issue(video) by sanmibukunmi: 2:48pm On Jul 26, 2015
Bollinger:


Because there are none to vote for.
I don't think so.....there are lots and lots just dt there is no avenue for intelligent ppl to go into politics......even looking at some comments alone on Nairaland will make u see dt dere are lots of intelligent ppl...
Re: How Kenyan President Wisely Shut Down Obama On Gay Issue(video) by jonesee: 2:49pm On Jul 26, 2015
Now, that is a president.
Re: How Kenyan President Wisely Shut Down Obama On Gay Issue(video) by refreshrate: 2:50pm On Jul 26, 2015
Bollinger:

Omo eko gan gan ni mi.
Oga it's a lie you're from Burundi it's your wife that's Nigerian
Re: How Kenyan President Wisely Shut Down Obama On Gay Issue(video) by Nobody: 2:51pm On Jul 26, 2015
ritux:
Obj, Yar Adua, GEJ and now GMB...none of them can speak like this man with strong courage and charisma. This are the kind of leaders we need in Africa. To match the Western leaders in all aspect.

I wish we can get this kind of President in Nigeria. I wish GMB can take some positives from this speech but unfortunately, he can't because his accent and intonation is bad.

Looking forward to the day we will get some eloquent, intelligent person as president of Nigeria.

O' Wailing wailer! Please tell me which is a good accent.......Australian, American or Scottish..... We all know they have different accents and intonations......The Scottish are quite difficult to understand but their fellow English country men never make reference to that.

But not you wailing wailer of African origin who incidentally is being ridiculed by others because of your heavy accents..... now feeling superior to your own

Have you ever heard of Malcolm X's description of a "House Nigger"..... Look in the mirror and ye shall find one
Re: How Kenyan President Wisely Shut Down Obama On Gay Issue(video) by Bollinger(m): 2:52pm On Jul 26, 2015
sanmibukunmi:

I don't think so.....there are lots and lots just dt there is no avenue for intelligent ppl to go into politics......even looking at some comments alone on Nairaland will make u see dt dere are lots of intelligent ppl...

What you think does not matter. Reality does. If intelligent people were abound, by now it would have reflected in all aspects of societal life in Nigeria. But, as witnessed, the reverse is the case. One or two offshoot of intelligence has no significance if it depends on a majority of dullards to function.
Re: How Kenyan President Wisely Shut Down Obama On Gay Issue(video) by omonnakoda: 2:53pm On Jul 26, 2015
successinlife:
Sorry to use foul language,i am doing this for comprehension purposes, why would a man like man or woman like woman?i have read that while trying to have sex the she husband will use his hand to penetrate the she virgina and the he gay will sex the anus of a he she,but what for? men and women solve the riddles of this,my conclusion on gay is SATANIC initiation and nothing more.Ordinary people says you put a round log in a round hole and not put hole into hole or log into a log abi na spiritual blindness?
I think some holes are versatile and take the shape of any log
Re: How Kenyan President Wisely Shut Down Obama On Gay Issue(video) by successinlife: 2:54pm On Jul 26, 2015
Anybody that is indirectly preaching in support of gay or seeking a soft landing for a gay post is a gay,that is how to know them because it is still an abormination in africa,the gays are not confident enough to stand their words,if you say they are not affecting the society,you are one of them.
Re: How Kenyan President Wisely Shut Down Obama On Gay Issue(video) by Symphony007: 2:55pm On Jul 26, 2015
ritux:


I agree with you on the punishment to corruption being nothing compared to gay. Those are part of the problems we have here in Africa and our dear Nigeria. We treat corruption with levity. That's why u see a thief of onion sentenced to 15yrs or more but the corrupt public holders sentenced to 6months imprisonment with the option of fine. I expect Obama to talk to us about issues like this and not asking us to support gay. Case study: while the Americans have punished those involved in the Halliburton scandal, Nigeria is yet to charge it's own citizens involved to court.

As per your facts, I don't know about it but I know for sure that Nigerians prefer to watch pornography that involves people of opposite sex than watching some crazy lesbians or gay.

Even you, I know u will prefer to watch a man and woman sex tape than watch a man&man or woman & woman sex tape.
I thank you for your calm and sensible response, it's something lacking on this forum. We may disagree greatly on this issue and I do not begrudge you for that. I am heterosexual but I will always stand for the rights of gays as I belive they have a fight to their lives so far as it does not affect the next person negatively, for years, humans have tried to set standard on what is right or not, in the 60's, it was inter racial marriage and just like this there was a lot of reasons against it, where is it today? ...we as nigerians have a lot of problems but our leaders are pointing to that shinny thing in the corner called gay rights and we are playing along while they rob us dry, forgetting that there has not been a single protest or Nigerian in this territory advocating for rights whatsoever, they are busy doing whatever they do in their private bedrooms, so why channel so much energy and hate on a non issue? Is according to Uhuru kenyatta, gay rights is a non issue, why does it warrant discussion in federal parliaments across africa puting our various problems in the back seat. As a continent, we can channel our energies in what people do in the privacy of their rooms that is going on somewhere even as we speak and can't stop or we can move to better things that ensure be bequeathed a better africa to our kids than we currently have. Thanks!
Re: How Kenyan President Wisely Shut Down Obama On Gay Issue(video) by Bollinger(m): 2:57pm On Jul 26, 2015
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Oga it's a lie you're from Burundi it's your wife that's Nigerian

Lol. If all else fails resort to innuendos and insults. The Nigerian way. Ko easy fun omo ole.
Re: How Kenyan President Wisely Shut Down Obama On Gay Issue(video) by ibroauthen(m): 3:01pm On Jul 26, 2015
California1:
Bro uhuru us very intelligent and smart. ....I wish he is Nigeria president no one will ever complain at all ..He is well presented and well articulate. ...

Thanks to God Obama did not come to Nigeria because huhari will again put us to ashamed. .
Buhari did not understand English. ...




Mr. Man correct ursev b4 u go even try to correct person.... Na u worse pass

ITK no good oo

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