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Re: 5 archeological evidences to proof the Bible is real(with pictures) by malvisguy212: 11:07am On Aug 01, 2015
johnydon22:
I love this!
This is exactly the point, comparative similarities in the fables.… The similarities found in the two cultures are as a result of cultural assimilation, a younger culture borrowing myths from an older one because they were supposedly just One flood... The similarities in Gilgamesh and noah fables shows the younger must have copied from the older which is the point


So why then did you not mention that those other fables Gilgamesh epic and Vishnu myth were written thousands of years before the Noah story?
good, all you need to do is to compear the claimed of this gods with the christians God, most of this gods claims human population being with some group of people.science confirmed just as the bible say , life began with a single cell organism . Here is more amazing proved of the bible:

There are Things that no man has ever
known, or could conceivably have known,until our century. For this would prove that someone greater than a man had written those books.

Job 38:24 By what way is the light
parted, which scattereth the east wind
upon the earth?
In the book of Job, Job is asked by a
person calling himself God, a list of
questions intended to show him how
small Job really was in comparison with
the universe around him. This particular
question demands of Job how the light
was parted (by day into night) and how
that light makes the east wind blow.
Now we, today, can answer that
question. Job could not. The light causes
the east wind to blow because the dawn
heats the air that has been cooled all
night. As the air cooled, it had contracted
until it basically reached an equilibrium.
Then when dawn creeps towards the
horizon it begins to heat the air nearby,
and as this air is heated it expands,
causing a higher pressure than the still-
cool air of the night, which makes the
east wind “blow”.
We know this! God knew this! But NO
ONE ELSE COULD HAVE KNOWN THAT
LIGHT CAUSES WIND! No one in the
entire planet suspected a connection
between light and wind until around 500
years ago! Until then no one really had
the faintest clue how light really worked!
Only God could have inspired that
section of Job, probably written thirty-
five CENTURIES ago!!
Furthermore, when focusing on the first
part of that verse “the way light is
parted”, the context indicates that the
“parting” is referring to day and night –
something God seems pretty proud of in
Genesis 1. And Job could not have
known how the light was parted, for in
Job’s day the world was believed to be
FLAT!
We, today, know that the light is parted
because the Earth revolves on its own
axis, and faces a constantly moving
hemisphere towards the sun. But in Job’s
day, NOONE KNEW THAT! The exact
dating of Job is much debated, but by
internal evidence it seems that it was
written perhaps as early as 1700 BC,
although some skeptics place it as late as
800 BC.
But the earliest secular reference to a
spherical Earth is made by Pythagoreas
in 570 BC! A few extremely vague hints at
it were made previous to that, but
nothing that could have inspired the
author of Job. But the “God” who asked
these questions of Job knew that the
Earth was spherical, because…

Job 38:16 Hast thou entered into the
springs of the sea? or hast thou walked
in the search of the depth?
We didn’t “walk in search of the depth [of
the sea]“, I.E., the deepest part of the
ocean, until 1875 when we discovered
the deepest point on Earth, the
Challenger Deep in the Marianas Trench
(although we weren’t sure it was the
deepest point until much later). We
didn’t fully survey it until 1951. We didn’t
actually “walk” in it until 1960!
But how does this prove the existence of
God? Simply the fact that in most ancient
cultures, the ocean HAD no bottom! The
Greek word abyss, used for the deep
ocean, literally means “bottomless”! And
3500 years ago, only God could have
known with such certainty that the ocean
did in fact have a “depth”!!
Furthermore, in the same verse, a
completely separate proof exists; for to
the ancient mind, the idea of a “spring”
in the midst of the sea was unthinkable
and illogical. Why would there be water
pouring INTO the sea from underground
– the sea is where water came from! And
mankind for all his technological
achievements didn’t discover underwater
springs until 1949 – A.D.! Almost four
millennium after Job was written! And
even then, it wasn’t confirmed until 1960,
and it wasn’t until 1979 that human
beings first saw deep-sea springs with
their own eyes! No one but God could
possibly have known they existed four
thousand years ago!
Job 38:18 Hast thou perceived the
breadth of the earth? declare if thou
knowest it all.
Man didn’t measure the circumference
(“breadth”) of the Earth with even remote
accuracy until Eratosthenes did it in
about 240 BC. But God knew exactly how
large it was. For He sits “above the circle
of it”.
Job 38:19 Where is the way where light
dwelleth? and as for darkness, where is
the place thereof,
Until roughly the time of Newton, no one
knew that there was a “way” where light
“dwells” – that is, a direction where light
comes from. Photons, the particles that
carry and, for all practical purposes, are
light, weren’t discovered until Einstein.
The ancient Greeks, arguably the most
scientifically advanced of the ancient
cultures, believed what we perceived as
light was actually “feeling rays” sent by
the eye to “look” at the objects, which
reflected them and made a picture.
None of the Greeks seemed to realize
that the idea begged the question of why
we couldn’t see in the dark. And they had
had the clearest ideas on light to date!
Well… except for what God wrote in Job,
a thousand years before. Only God knew
there was a place where light came from
4,000 years ago.
No one really hit on the right idea –
except in Job – until about 1000 A.D
when the Arabic mathematician Alhazen
realized the flaws in the Greek thinking.
And it took another 500 years for his
ideas to influence Europe through men
like Galileo and Newton. And we didn’t
REALLY start to understand it until a
century ago.
Job 26:7 He stretcheth out the north over
the empty place, and hangeth the earth
upon nothing.
According to everyone before 570 BC, the
Earth was flat. Even then, and for
millennia afterwards, the Earth was held
up by something. For the Greeks it was
on the shoulders of the god Atlas. For the
American Indians it was supported on
the back of a giant turtle. Other cultures
believed it was on the back of a hog,
water buffalo, snake, or elephant. These
ideas had the delightful side-benefit of
explaining earthquakes, since it logically
follows the theory that if Earth was on an
elephant’s back and the elephant itched,
the Earth would move.
The idea of the Earth literally hanging on
NOTHING – as in, an Earth in free-fall
through space – was one that no ancient
mind could have grasped. Newton’s
famous “apple incident” gave us the first
real clue as to how gravity operated to
control bodies at great distances. But
3500 years ago?
Only God could have known. This
constitutes the first solid proof that
the God of the Bible exists. Not just a
need for Him to exist, but a
demonstrated scientific proof that a
Being wiser than man who knew things
no man could possibly have known,
existed. And that the Bible reveals that
Being.

http://thesimpleanswers.com/2009/08/08/does-god-exist/
Re: 5 archeological evidences to proof the Bible is real(with pictures) by johnydon22(m): 11:15am On Aug 01, 2015
Raymondenyi:
5) Nothing ever stated in the bible has the contemporary science and world been able to defy...

I) how was the earth formed? Gen. 1:1 -tells us in the beginning the earth was formless, dark and empty. If u are science inclined, you will know this description fits other planets 9 of them, (remember how old d bible is)... and the lord breathed life into it. How else do U think or can you explain, the Earth being the only planet, that can support life? Despite extensive researches, d earth happens to be the Only planet that can support life (as was stated in the bible)
For goodness sake other planets are not formless or dark or empty... Venus and Mercury gets triple the sunlight earth gets, so is far more brighter than earth, even jupiter is brigher than earth and mars gets as much sunlight, so tell me how other planets are dark?

Formless: None of the planets are formless as they all contain geological formations and even water... Ganymede Jupiter's moon contains water even mars has solid water from frozen methane and the geological weathering as shown by the mars rover reveal evidence of ancient waters on mars. . Other planets contain mountains, valleys, cliffs, active volcanoes, hurricanes just to mention but a few. . Now you call that formless and empty?. . . Actually you just killed your own claims by mentioning science which just showed it speaks quite the opposite of what you claim.

Ii) Near Death experiences (NDE) : there have been several and countless near death experience, and their consequent testimonies... one of note is from Mickey Robinson... please endeavor if u can to go on youtube and watch his testimony...
Claims like visiting the muslim heaven others claim to visit the christian heaven while others claim hindu heaven. . . Near death experiences are more prominent on patients with heart attacks and need i remind you that the brain is the cpu of every illusion and also the last organ of the body to shut out when the body dies.

Iii) scientist just know it occurs, as cells age, but no man knows why it must, Nobody has been able to alter this cycle, no matter how hard they try... it is written..
"It is appointed unto a man to die once, afterward judgement"
What is this exactly?

For crying out loud other animals die too, even microscopic organisms die. . its all part of the characteristics of every living organism.. Non-living things cannot die, so it is clear that death is because of life..

Iv) the reunion of isreal on may16th 1948 : this was a prophesy given to ezekiel in 37:24, the lord says, that he shall gather the isrealites from all corners of the world, and shall give them their own land.
More to come
The chosen race mentality, the oldest form of racism ..sadly even africans adopted it and use it to sing song of praise for a particular people that claims the creator of the universe chose them specially. . .what type of persons would uphold such favouritism concept and still dub the god concept a universal one...

79% of present isreali nation are JEWS
20% are ARABS
4% others.

Jews still are natives in present day germany, america and many nations around the globe. . . Maybe the jewish deity needs to put more work into it before he brings all the jews back to isreal because half of the jews in the world are not israelis....

We understand your desperate attempt to link unrelated events to dub them prophecy and all but at least research before writing

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Re: 5 archeological evidences to proof the Bible is real(with pictures) by johnydon22(m): 11:23am On Aug 01, 2015
malvisguy212:
good, all you need to do is to compear the claimed of this gods with the christians God, most of this gods claims human population being with some group of people.science confirmed just as the bible say , life began with a single cell organism . Here is more amazing proved of the bible:
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Jesus Christ Malvisguy which day will you stop this nonsensical copy and paste in your life...Now you have shifted from acknowledging the younger fables copied from the older fables and moved on to the Comparatives of the God claims, i would only leave you to take on that claims with your fellow theists because as far as am concern all your claims are all born out of myths

All the claims of these God concepts are exactly the same as the claim of yours....
(Biblical claims One man, other cultures claims group of persons) Hereditary and Genetics has shown the group of persons is more plausible. . .
And which scientific theory says life began from a single celled organism?
(Again this shows you need to read malvisguy, bible says one man and you want to reconcile it with a unicellular organism?

For crying out loud Man is Multi Cellular organism not single

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Re: 5 archeological evidences to proof the Bible is real(with pictures) by Eddlad: 11:40am On Aug 01, 2015
johnydon22:
Jesus Christ Malvisguy which day will you stop this nonsensical copy and paste in your life...Now you have shifted from acknowledging the younger fables copied from the older fables and moved on to the Comparatives of the God claims, i would only leave you to take on that claims with your fellow theists because as far as am concern all your claims are all born out of myths

All the claims of these God concepts are exactly the same as the claim of yours....
(Biblical claims One man, other cultures claims group of persons) Hereditary and Genetics has shown the group of persons is more plausible. . .
And which scientific theory says life began from a single celled organism?
(Again this shows you need to read malvisguy, bible says one man and you want to reconcile it with a unicellular organism?

For crying out loud Man is Multi Cellular organism not single

If God wanted anyone to see him, I think he would have done better, I personally don't subscribe to these neither do I doubt them they simply don't have any bearing on my faith.We must strive to build our faith on things that can't perish and the only I know of is the word.

@quoted individual
Clarify your point and not just this post, I mean your very presence on this thread.
Re: 5 archeological evidences to proof the Bible is real(with pictures) by menesheh(m): 11:49am On Aug 01, 2015
johnydon22:
For goodness sake other planets are not formless or dark or empty... Venus and Mercury gets triple the sunlight earth gets, so is far more brighter than earth, even jupiter is brigher than earth and mars gets as much sunlight, so tell me how other planets are dark?

Formless: None of the planets are formless as they all contain geological formations and even water... Ganymede Jupiter's moon contains water even mars has solid water from frozen methane and the geological weathering as shown by the mars rover reveal evidence of ancient waters on mars. . Other planets contain mountains, valleys, cliffs, active volcanoes, hurricanes just to mention but a few. . Now you call that formless and empty?. . . Actually you just killed your own claims by mentioning science which just showed it speaks quite the opposite of what you claim.
Claims like visiting the muslim heaven others claim to visit the christian heaven while others claim hindu heaven. . . Near death experiences are more prominent on patients with heart attacks and need i remind you that the brain is the cpu of every illusion and also the last organ of the body to shut out when the body dies.
What is this exactly?

For crying out loud other animals die too, even microscopic organisms die. . its all part of the characteristics of every living organism.. Non-living things cannot die, so it is clear that death is because of life..
The chosen race mentality, the oldest form of racism ..sadly even africans adopted it and use it to sing song of praise for a particular people that claims the creator of the universe chose them specially. . .what type of persons would uphold such favouritism concept and still dub the god concept a universal one...

79% of present isreali nation are JEWS
20% are ARABS
4% others.

Jews still are natives in present day germany, america and many nations around the globe. . . Maybe the jewish deity needs to put more work into it before he brings all the jews back to isreal because half of the jews in the world are not israelis....

We understand your desperate attempt to link unrelated events to dub them prophecy and all but at least research before writing


Nailed. Prof you are really good in what you do.

Creationism is a crazy cocktail comprised of cognitive errors, logical fallacies and a heavy dose of obstinate idiocy.

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Re: 5 archeological evidences to proof the Bible is real(with pictures) by malvisguy212: 11:51am On Aug 01, 2015
johnydon22:
Jesus Christ Malvisguy which day will you stop this nonsensical copy and paste in your life...Now you have shifted from acknowledging the younger fables copied from the older fables and moved on to the Comparatives of the God claims, i would only leave you to take on that claims with your fellow theists because as far as am concern all your claims are all born out of myths

All the claims of these God concepts are exactly the same as the claim of yours....
(Biblical claims One man, other cultures claims group of persons) Hereditary and Genetics has shown the group of persons is more plausible. . .
And which scientific theory says life began from a single celled organism?
(Again this shows you need to read malvisguy, bible says one man and you want to reconcile it with a unicellular organism?

For crying out loud Man is Multi Cellular organism not single
the argument was that "the flood is a myth" the fact that many religion give similar account of the flood indicate its actually happened. Peace!!

What about the rest of my post ?
Re: 5 archeological evidences to proof the Bible is real(with pictures) by Nobody: 11:53am On Aug 01, 2015
johnydon22:
For goodness sake other planets are not formless or dark or empty... Venus and Mercury gets triple the sunlight earth gets, so is far more brighter than earth, even jupiter is brigher than earth and mars gets as much sunlight, so tell me how other planets are dark?

Formless: None of the planets are formless as they all contain geological formations and even water... Ganymede Jupiter's moon contains water even mars has solid water from frozen methane and the geological weathering as shown by the mars rover reveal evidence of ancient waters on mars. . Other planets contain mountains, valleys, cliffs, active volcanoes, hurricanes just to mention but a few. . Now you call that formless and empty?. . . Actually you just killed your own claims by mentioning science which just showed it speaks quite the opposite of what you claim.
Claims like visiting the muslim heaven others claim to visit the christian heaven while others claim hindu heaven. . . Near death experiences are more prominent on patients with heart attacks and need i remind you that the brain is the cpu of every illusion and also the last organ of the body to shut out when the body dies.
What is this exactly?

For crying out loud other animals die too, even microscopic organisms die. . its all part of the characteristics of every living organism.. Non-living things cannot die, so it is clear that death is because of life..
The chosen race mentality, the oldest form of racism ..sadly even africans adopted it and use it to sing song of praise for a particular people that claims the creator of the universe chose them specially. . .what type of persons would uphold such favouritism concept and still dub the god concept a universal one...

79% of present isreali nation are JEWS
20% are ARABS
4% others.

Jews still are natives in present day germany, america and many nations around the globe. . . Maybe the jewish deity needs to put more work into it before he brings all the jews back to isreal because half of the jews in the world are not israelis....

We understand your desperate attempt to link unrelated events to dub them prophecy and all but at least research before writing
my brother i'm not here for u, but i'll rather, u should be the one to carry out researches, the Earth is the only place U find liquid water that is sustainable, Moreso ur summation of Jupiter's moon having water, hasn't been verified... it is "believed" to contain water in ice forms (as hard as rocks) ; just as the new kapler planets (Earth 2.0) about 1400 lite years from eath is also "Believed" can sustain life.... My brother... all those re "Believed" it has never been verified.... so donnot strt feeling fly with ur unsubstantiated claims...
Re: 5 archeological evidences to proof the Bible is real(with pictures) by johnydon22(m): 12:02pm On Aug 01, 2015
malvisguy212:
the argument was that "the flood is a myth" the fact that many religion give similar account of the flood indicate its actually happened. Peace!!
[b]No that many religions have similar accounts of the same event at different timelines shows its just a reworked version of the same story bathed in the cultural decorum of the adopting culture because they should only be one flood not many..

There are no evidence of any global flood... the Egyptians never wrote about any global flood, no African civilization did....
but a younger civilization Israel wrote one evidently similar to an older existing one from Sumer.

If there was any global flood, no fish or aquatic creature will survive it talk more of trees surviving under water for months is practically impossible.
Scholarly consensus shows the flood story must be a local flooding and has nothing to do with other parts of the globe...

There may be an ancient flooding in the geographical location where these stories are found, but when you claim only one man survived, took all animals in a boat, a god commanded him to build...makes the myth and fabricated fables to be staring you right in the face crystal clear.

For the facts that each culture claims this feat for their own God dubs it myth and for the simple fact that younger civilizations also adopted this story and reworked it into their own cultures shows that the presence of the story in other cultures are just copying of the same fable.[/b]

What about the rest of my post ?
Copy and paste... Of which i am not supposed to stress myself replying a copy and paste that you just went to a website to copy and paste without reading it..

Learn to make points without copy and paste...

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Re: 5 archeological evidences to proof the Bible is real(with pictures) by johnydon22(m): 12:14pm On Aug 01, 2015
Raymondenyi:
my brother i'm not here for u, but i'll rather, u should be the one to carry out researches, the Earth is the only place U find liquid water that is sustainable, Moreso ur summation of Jupiter's moon having water, hasn't been verified... it is "believed" to contain water in ice forms (as hard as rocks) ; just as the new kapler planets (Earth 2.0) about 1400 lite years from eath is also "Believed" can sustain life.... My brother... all those re "Believed" it has never been verified.... so donnot strt feeling fly with ur unsubstantiated claims...
[b]When your baseless claims of other planets being formless and dark have been utterly destroyed i never expected any more replies. . You are not here for me but you are in a public forum and wants to sell delusional assumptions as truth to the public so do not expect them to swallow them just like that...

For all we know earth is just 1 out of billions of planets in the milky way galaxy talk more of billions of other galaxies larger than the milky way in some cases. . .

Am sure i mentioned mars water being in solid form of which curiosity Rover has confirmed of which i will attach an image from the Curiosity Rover

For Ganymede you can as well read http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/archive/releases/2015/09/full/ the hubble telescope is not in space as a playing toy ...

Am surprised you didn't put up a defence for the presence of mountains, volcanoes, hurricanes and others which kills your naive claims of the planets being formless and dark.... Stay up to date before writing next time[/b]

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Re: 5 archeological evidences to proof the Bible is real(with pictures) by TheDauraMallam: 4:00pm On Aug 01, 2015
agabaI23:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1269165/Noahs-Ark-remains-discovered-mountain-Turkey.html


More recent scientific evidence of Noah's Ark


I read the link and you just shot your self. It's totally baffling how religionists shut down their reasoning mechanism.

Four years ago and following a decade of research, U.S. national security analyst Porcher Taylor claimed a satellite image revealed a baffling 'anomaly' on the mountain's north-west corner that he believed to be the remains of the Ark.

But Mike Pitt, a British archaeologist, said the evangelical explorers had yet to produce compelling evidence.

He added: 'If there had been a flood capable of lifting a huge ship 4km up the side of a mountain 4,800 years ago, I think there would be substantial geological evidence for this flood around the world. And there isn't.'

Nicholas Purcell, a lecturer in ancient history at Oxford University, said the claims were the 'usual nonsense'. He added: 'If floodwaters covered Eurasia 12,000ft deep in 2,800BC, how did the complex societies of Egypt and Mesopotamia, already many centuries old, keep right on regardless?'

According to Genesis, the first book in the Old Testament, Noah was told to build the ark by God, who wanted to flood the world to punish sinners.

The story was widely seen as fact until the 19th century, when scientists began to question the evidence for a worldwide flood.

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Re: 5 archeological evidences to proof the Bible is real(with pictures) by Nobody: 5:17pm On Aug 01, 2015
Raymondenyi:
In my quest for knowledge I bumped into some revelations I'll like to share with like minds of same faith; true believers in christ... (for the doubting thomases; please Just lay rest and enjoy the show; as I am not doing this to foist convictions on anyone as I believe ur convictions should come from within)

1)Noah's Ark Found...
The bible says Noah's ark landed on mount Ararat, gen. 8:4, which is modern day eastern turkey, in 1977 ryon wyatt discovered this remains, after several archeological investigations, it was discovered this had same measurements given by the bible, and it was recognised and adopted by the government of turkey as the remains of NoaH's Ark and the area declared as Noah's national park...

So the government of Turkey have now become scientific body that approves a findings. Well, when money is involved, anybody becomes anything.
Re: 5 archeological evidences to proof the Bible is real(with pictures) by trapQ: 6:40pm On Aug 01, 2015
preach on brother. Jesus is alive
Raymondenyi:
5) Nothing ever stated in the bible has the contemporary science and world been able to defy...

I) how was the earth formed? Gen. 1:1 -tells us in the beginning the earth was formless, dark and empty. If u are science inclined, you will know this description fits other planets 9 of them, (remember how old d bible is)... and the lord breathed life into it. How else do U think or can you explain, the Earth being the only planet, that can support life? Despite extensive researches, d earth happens to be the Only planet that can support life (as was stated in the bible)

Ii) Near Death experiences (NDE) : there have been several and countless near death experience, and their consequent testimonies... one of note is from Mickey Robinson... please endeavor if u can to go on youtube and watch his testimony...

Iii) scientist just know it occurs, as cells age, but no man knows why it must, Nobody has been able to alter this cycle, no matter how hard they try... it is written..
"It is appointed unto a man to die once, afterward judgement"

Iv) the reunion of isreal on may16th 1948 : this was a prophesy given to ezekiel in 37:24, the lord says, that he shall gather the isrealites from all corners of the world, and shall give them their own land.
More to come

V) the book of deutronomy 28:7 ; God promised the children of isreal, that their enemies shall never defeat them in battle. This was evident during the 6day isreal war, where all the Arab nations adjoining isreal united to anul isreal... but instead the reverse became the case, as isreal gained an upper hand, and occupied more territories, including jeruselem...

Total Arab population :271,056, 560
Isreal population : 5,186,367

This war is otherwise known as the "Miracle War" as there is no known war on earth with so the obvious numerical imbalance has led to a decisive victory by the numerically disadvantaged side in such a short time...

Brethren : the bible is real and all its prophesies have lived and never been defiled, U can choose to accept or remain ignorant.
Re: 5 archeological evidences to proof the Bible is real(with pictures) by Nobody: 2:01pm On Aug 14, 2017
menesheh:
Government confirmed this is Noah's ark. Sorry mam, that does prove anything. Under which condition can wood survive 6 to 10 thousands years cus you are assuming it is a fossil. Wood cannot be fossilize.

The other pics is crap


I wonder which kind of god almighty, that will be showing the evidence of his existence through this obscure way
Father forgive him for he don't know what he's saying
Re: 5 archeological evidences to proof the Bible is real(with pictures) by Nobody: 2:04pm On Aug 14, 2017
Raymondenyi:
3) Red sea crossing found :

The bible tell us, about 3500 years ago, moses parted the red sea for the children of isrealites out of Egypt to the other side, and when pharoes army where enroute same course he caused the wheels of their chariots off, and the water receded on them drowning all pharoah's men; well that site has been found.
Well gilded chariots wheels and axels were found at the sea bed the crossing was believed to have occured . The bible said over 600 "choice chariots" were in the army pursuing the children of isrealites... it was discovered by Ryon wyatt, after using a molecular frequency generator from his boat above after he set it in search for gold...

To this day, it is true; although sceptics and cynics will still doubt
Guess what
I had d same thinking lol! Get some money, go to d red sea in search of gold.
someone else already got there before me lol!

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