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Re: Jonathan's Government And The Refineries, Lest We Forget. by Nobody: 12:49pm On Aug 02, 2015
menxer:


I believe he said that because he knew/knows that nothing was actually wrong with the refineries, and I had the same belief all along.

what baffles me is how importing refined petrol (thereby boosting foreign economies) is better for Nigeria (FG) than local production.

@op thanks for the write up, maybe wailers will find a little solace.
Stop twisting the fact to fit your propaganda. It doesn't make you look intelligent at all. Jeez! Tell the present administration to do something about the nation's development. It is a complete mess! angry

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Re: Jonathan's Government And The Refineries, Lest We Forget. by royal231(m): 12:51pm On Aug 02, 2015
philips70:


Yes, he was the best thing to have happened to criminals in the country's oil sector. He must be the best thing, to have inherited so much, made so much huge crude oil sales in record prices in almost all his rule but left at a time even his finance minister had to borrow money to pay SALARIES!!! Nigeria should be in the mould of China by now in terms of industrial development having such a God sent man for 5yrs with that much money.

I am not saying he is a saint... but tell me the better Nigerian leader you know

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Re: Jonathan's Government And The Refineries, Lest We Forget. by 2tips: 12:52pm On Aug 02, 2015
wecan:
You can tell me that your papa didn't pay your mother's bride prize and now buhari has paid for it too. That is what we can believe because i can see that you are a bastarddd for taking ur time to post this rubbish just to give buhari credit of what he didn't know how it started

tel us how
Re: Jonathan's Government And The Refineries, Lest We Forget. by menxer: 1:14pm On Aug 02, 2015
all4naija:

Stop twisting the fact to fit your propaganda. It doesn't make you look intelligent at all. Jeez! Tell the present administration to do something about the nation's development. It is a complete mess! angry

....so what's intelligent about your comment, Mr.?
is it that you don't know how to communicate with the present government?

face your front, oga!

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Re: Jonathan's Government And The Refineries, Lest We Forget. by clevadani: 1:14pm On Aug 02, 2015
Kenobus:
you have forgotten that these refineries were not working at but GEJ made them to work though not full capacity. They have always worked under GEJ. He wanted to do a special TAM by those who built them but their terms weren't ok. They had to resort to inhouse. Is it buhari that did that. Get it that they were working but below 50%. If it is the fear of Buhari why can that fear help the fuel situation? And the security and pipeline break. Gmb has nothing for him. Let him work first. It is regret and shame that is making u guys to look for credit at all cost. He has none for now
How can u explain d fact that refineries that were supposed to work nxt year have started working in less than 2 mths?

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Re: Jonathan's Government And The Refineries, Lest We Forget. by Happiness87(f): 1:16pm On Aug 02, 2015
Jesusloveyou:
we are saying d same thing, d refinery was working until ur clueless corrupt hero stop it, to enable him, steal our commonweath in d name of subsidy and TAM, because buhari never sent circular to that effect,but he sent 'fear' to them, what ur clueless corrupt hero said will work till 2016, suddenly working, is that not miracle? Ok give d credit to God that make people to fear PMB,
poo, very childish, Buhari sent fear to them, go and tell that to kids, even smart ones will laugh at you.


you are just exposing the level of your foolishness


By Anthony Uche

May 7, 2011
Nigerian refineries have always been impacted by operational problems, the inability of previous Turn Around Maintenance (TAM) operations over the years, have kept the four refineries in the country perennially operating below installed capacity.Considering the high demandfor petroleum products in thecountry, their availability is crucial. The estimated daily demand for petroleum products in Nigeria today is 30 million litres of petrol (PMS), 10 million litres of kerosene (DPK), 18 million litres of diesel (AGO), and 780 metric tons (1.4 million litres) of cooking gas (LPG), and the estimated amount of crude oil required daily for domestic refining, that wouldsatisfy the demand for petroleum products in Nigeria adequately, should be about 530,000 barrels per day (bbl/d). This is some 85,000 bbl/d more than the combined refining capacitiesof all the state-owned refineries located in Warri, Port Harcourt, and Kaduna. The four refineries have combined installed capacity of 445,000 bpd and have never reached full productiondue to sabotage and operational failures.In 2010, a meagre amount of 80,757 metric tones, MT, of petroleum products were refined by all the refineries. These included 53,223.4 MT of automotive gas oil, AGO, 7,567 MT of liquefied petroleum gas, LPG, and 19,967 MT of premium motorspirit, PMS. Amazingly, 8.1 million MT of petroleum products were imported into the country in the same year.With crude oil exports currently above 2 million bpd,due to increased production, as a result of the relative peace being enjoyed in the Niger Delta region, the country ironically has to rely on imports of refined products for 85 percent of itsfuel needs, mainly from European suppliers.Nigeria, which is Africa’s largest crude oil exporter andalso the 6th largest in the world, spent about N1.15 trillion to import an estimated8.1 million metric tons (MT) of petroleum products in 2010 alone and will spend about N388.11bn to import petrol, in the first quarter of this year. Ageing refining plants, dilapidated infrastructure, such as pipelines linking the plants and a lack of investment have held back the country’s refining industry for years, while militant attacks have worsened the situation.In December 2010, a series of militant attacks to pipelines connected to the refineries forced the NigerianNational Petroleum Corporation, NNPC, to shut down all of them. Also in November, 2010, Kaduna refinery which runs on crude oil from Chevron’s Escravos oil terminal, and has capacityof 110,000 bpd, was shut down after the crude oil pipeline feeding the facility was damaged by militants operating from Delta state.But the refineries are back ontrack, as information emanating from NNPC indicates, Group Managing Director, NNPC, Austen Oniwon, said in Abuja that that the NNPC was determined to make the refineries work at full capacity to reduce importation of petroleum products. The NNPC chief stated that the current stability in the supply of products could not be sustained in the long term, hence the need to rejuvenatelocal refineries. “The refineries must therefore work on a continuous basis, thus reducing imports significantly. In pursuance ofthis, the management is currently involved in discussions with the original EPC contractors with a view to carrying out rehabilitation works aimed at restoring the refineries to their original design capacities,” he said. Oniwon said that the initiative would lead to the desirable result of improving on the refineries’ contribution to meeting domestic demand.Also, the Spokesman of NNPC, Levi Ajuonuma, noted that production currently fluctuates between 65-75 percent. He said the 125,000 bpd Warri refinery which wasshut down temporarily is back on stream and has commenced the production of kerosene. “Warri is up to 75 percent and the rest are between 60 and 70 percent” Levi Ajuonuma noted. “In another couple of weeks we will be ramping up production. The key is pipeline security.” He added. When asked if security had been bolstered, Ajuonuma said “yes it has”. This is coming on the heels of the success of the Joint Task Force, JTF, operations in curtailing the activities of vandals in the region and also the ongoing amnesty programme.Plans are on the way for additional 750,000 bpd to be added to the existing refiningcapacity of 445,000 bpd. China State Construction Engineering Corporation Ltd intends to build three new refineries in Kogi, Bayelsa, and Lagos state. Already, theMemorandum of Understanding, MoU, has been signed and the Chinesehave inspected the proposedsites, as a sign of their commitment to the project. The deal is said to be worth$23 billion. One just hopes the projects materialize, considering the fact that the last refinery, the Port Harcourt refinery, was built by the Babangida administration over twenty years ago.Nigeria’s state-owned refineries all have very poor maintenance histories, are technically inefficient, and are unreliable for uninterrupted domestic production of petroleum products, even at the very best of times. Liberalization and total deregulation of the downstream will create the necessary environment for attracting investors into the refining sector. With her huge hydrocarbon resources,there is no reason Nigeria should not be able to refine petroleum to meet local demand and for export to theregional and international markets.

http://nigerianoilgas.com/?p=518

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Re: Jonathan's Government And The Refineries, Lest We Forget. by 989900: 1:18pm On Aug 02, 2015
I posted the below some 2 days back . . . and some half-witt moon-dog was blowing dust.

Refinery:

I actually posted this yesterday:

1. The past administration's goal was not to get the refineries working.

2. According to Diezani, they were better sold off.

3. The 4 refineries needed just N99b (after as usual), but the past administration would rather spend trillions on importation of refined products, waste billions on flights and similar sorry things, while our refineries were purposefully left at averagely less than 15-20% functional capacity for years!

4. The non-working refineries meant merry business times for beneficiaries of it's near demise. From oil-swap frauds to subsidy fraud, while the rest of us bear the brunt -- from severe fuel scarcity, to drain on Forex, in effect, strangling of the Naira resulting in hyper-inflation, and ultimately impoverishment of the people.

5. The extent of GEJ's complicity is less known (at least to me).

6. The past admin would not have taken the TAM serious, nor initiate it's commencement in Oct. 2014, if the elections weren't coming up in Feb.2015 (see it's approach to Boko Haram in the build up to the elections for comparison).

7. If the past admin retained the presidency, it would have been business as usual and more of the same.
Even the earlier proposed completion date by NNPC (April, 2016), would have been nothing but some pipe dream, in lieu of this earlier completion dates -- cause 'there's a new Sheriff in town'.

8. Contrary to some comments on here, it is actually possible to complete a TAM in 30-60 days or thereabout! TAM took roughly 100 days or thereabout at the Warri refinery in 2000, even though a sizeable portion of it was also affected by fire!

9. Most of the parts needed for the TAM for the PH refinery have actually been sitting locked up in containers at the Onne port for months before now!

10. All the enumerated above are 'facts' carefully researched, vetted, and stated without any sentiment. If you do have any contrary opinion, kindly state it with facts, and not your personal opinion. #welearneveryday

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Re: Jonathan's Government And The Refineries, Lest We Forget. by clevadani: 1:32pm On Aug 02, 2015
mykel25:
I can categorically say that OP is ignorant of the truth about the refineries.....I'm an engineer by profession and I know turn around maintenance of a capacity like that won't take one month....OP you based your write up on hate n propaganda publications....you need to know that most newspaper company we have in Nigeria are been controlled by politicians.....in a nutshell you don't have to believe everything you read in the paper,try to do your findings. OP you should have asked yourself the major project the SURE-P was meant for......update your knowledge OP before your go public on such an important issue
Mr unignorant Engineer can u now tell us y d Turn Around Maintenance that Jonathan promised us and budgeted for since 2012, that was supposed to finish in 2015, started working in less than 2 mths
Re: Jonathan's Government And The Refineries, Lest We Forget. by billyG(m): 1:34pm On Aug 02, 2015
Same thing with power,after privatization of phcn d story still remain d same d pdp put d blame on gas pipeline vandals,now PMB is on board 4 just 60days just see how electricity has improved.
Re: Jonathan's Government And The Refineries, Lest We Forget. by ultraGM: 1:43pm On Aug 02, 2015
Maxymilliano:
I cannot take credit for the revival of our refiineries - President Buhari




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttD5Tr-c9fQ

that implies that JEG Administration lies about refinery operation, OUR REFINERY ARE WORKING PERFECTLY
Re: Jonathan's Government And The Refineries, Lest We Forget. by teamchocolate: 1:43pm On Aug 02, 2015
Exactly buhari never said give the credit to jonathan for the refineries, he only said he cud not take credit... cuz he has done nothing... The NNPC jus needed to know that a new no-nonesense sherrif is in town and they started to sit up and do their work....
Maxymilliano:
I cannot take credit for the revival of our refiineries - President Buhari




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttD5Tr-c9fQ
Re: Jonathan's Government And The Refineries, Lest We Forget. by Happiness87(f): 1:44pm On Aug 02, 2015
free2ryhme:



Guy, use your tongue count your teeth. These refineries nvr worked for a single minute under the GEJ administration. Are you saying that the GEJ administration were busy revamping for 6 years, only waiting for another man to take the glory? be smart haba!
PMB is a teamplayer and the mark of true leadership. What would you have wanted him to say
don't be silly, TAM started October last year.

who told you that the refineries were not working??

They were working but not to its full capacity. stop embarrassing yourself online just because you want to be heard. Even Buhari has distanced himself from the refinery functionality and you are here screaming poo.
Re: Jonathan's Government And The Refineries, Lest We Forget. by Happiness87(f): 1:48pm On Aug 02, 2015
teamchocolate:
Exactly buhari never said give the credit to jonathan for the refineries, he only said he cud not take credit... cuz he has done nothing... The NNPC jus needed to know that a new no-nonesense sherrif is in town and they started to sit up and do their work....
you are braindead indeed, is that what Tvc stations told you or Buhari himself
Re: Jonathan's Government And The Refineries, Lest We Forget. by Happiness87(f): 1:51pm On Aug 02, 2015
clevadani:

Mr unignorant Engineer can u now tell us y d Turn Around Maintenance that Jonathan promised us and budgeted for since 2012, that was supposed to finish in 2015, started working in less than 2 mths
see how foolish you are, do you read at all.

who told you refineries were budgetted For TAM in 2012, ewu, keep embarrassing yourself

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Re: Jonathan's Government And The Refineries, Lest We Forget. by ManTiger(m): 1:54pm On Aug 02, 2015
This picture says it all.

Re: Jonathan's Government And The Refineries, Lest We Forget. by Happiness87(f): 1:57pm On Aug 02, 2015
989900:
I posted the below some 2 days back . . . and some half-witt moon-dog was blowing dust.

Refinery:

I actually posted this yesterday:

1. The past administration's goal was not to get the refineries working.

2. According to Diezani, they were better sold off.

3. The 4 refineries needed just N99b (after as usual), but the past administration would rather spend trillions on importation of refined products, waste billions on flights and similar sorry things, while our refineries were purposefully left at averagely less than 15-20% functional capacity for years!

4. The non-working refineries meant merry business times for beneficiaries of it's near demise. From oil-swap frauds to subsidy fraud, while the rest of us bear the brunt -- from severe fuel scarcity, to drain on Forex, in effect, strangling of the Naira resulting in hyper-inflation, and ultimately impoverishment of the people.

5. The extent of GEJ's complicity is less known (at least to me).

6. The past admin would not have taken the TAM serious, nor initiate it's commencement in Oct. 2014, if the elections weren't coming up in Feb.2015 (see it's approach to Boko Haram in the build up to the elections for comparison).

7. If the past admin retained the presidency, it would have been business as usual and more of the same.
Even the earlier proposed completion date by NNPC (April, 2016), would have been nothing but some pipe dream, in lieu of this earlier completion dates -- cause 'there's a new Sheriff in town'.

8. Contrary to some comments on here, it is actually possible to complete a TAM in 30-60 days or thereabout! TAM took roughly 100 days or thereabout at the Warri refinery in 2000, even though a sizeable portion of it was also affected by fire!

9. Most of the parts needed for the TAM for the PH refinery have actually been sitting locked up in containers at the Onne port for months before now!

10. All the enumerated above are 'facts' carefully researched, vetted, and stated without any sentiment. If you do have any contrary opinion, kindly state it with facts, and not your personal opinion. #welearneveryday
so What you just posted are not your personal opinions, i pity you.

hate Gej and die in Lagoon, 100 years to come you will not see him in jail, to hell with your false information to brainwash fools

its obvious you are a bigot, I hope APC is paying you well

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Re: Jonathan's Government And The Refineries, Lest We Forget. by wiseoneking: 2:07pm On Aug 02, 2015
Image123:
In this age of cheap internet, free access to google and other search engines, with online news media. It is unfortunate that many are attempting to twist and turn VERY RECENT History in everyone's face. i will like to use this thread to remind us with verifiable links what obtained in the GEJ administration as regards our oil refineries. In a nutshell(for those who don't want to read long post), the past administration/government lacked progressive direction as regards the refineries. The below facts are things everyone knows even though some choose to forget.

As at November 23, 2012, the news was "Refineries’ turnaround maintenance to start first quarter 2013"

Below are some excerpts from the news report, all are free to read the full report from the link given.





The next month of that same year, December 15, 2012. The story developed k-leg. The headline was "[url=http://www.punchng.com/news/fg-drops-planned-refinery-projects-%E2%80%A2jonathan-must-tackle-fuel-subsidy-corruption-labour/]FG drops planned refinery projects •Jonathan must tackle fuel subsidy corruption–Labour[/url]"

Here are some excerpts from the report.


The above quotes would have been funny if they were not utterly pathetic. It was all mouth, no action.


Ten days later, Christmas day, it was still discordant tunes as regards refining crude oil in Nigeria.
December 25, 2012, News headlines read "NNPC plans to repair three refineries with N152bn"
Some excerpts from the report are in the quote below.


Don't hiss just yet, the drama continues one year later.

November 28, 2013, the story had not improved in any way. The headline was "FG completes negotiations for Port Harcourt refinery"
Some excerpts from the reports are in the quote below.



It'leaves much to be desired when less than a year before, billions of naira were said to be approved and paid for maintenance, and we were expected to have billions of litres of products in 2013. But by November 2013, they were finally completed on selling the refinery without any so called 18.64 billion litres of products derived from local refining.

Enter last year, January 3, 2014. The news had it that "Jonathan hasn’t approved sale of refineries, says Abati" Don't get dizzy by the ding-dong, fasten your seat belts and read some excerpts from the report in the quote below.



So, did anything concrete or progressive happen all through last year as regards our four refineries? [size=13pt]NO[/size]. You can be sure, it would have being in the TRANSFORMATION campaigns. By the ending of the year, last year, our refineries were still hopeless despite all the billions of naira spent on TAM and all the failed promises.
November 24, 2014, News was "Oil slump: Nigeria’s crude refining to drop further" Our REFINING dropped further, the GEJ government did not sell them or produce anything tangible for the benefit of the country.
Some excerpts from the news report are in the quote below.


Quite a grim report, the unpatriotic acts and deliberate sabotage in the past government was unchecked. Did elections, campaigns and a new year improve anything during the GEJ administration? NO

This year 2015. March 3, 2015. This was ELECTIONS month, if the GEJ administration had any hope as regards our 4 refineries, any sort of joker, or light at the end of the tunnel, this was the time they would have presented it. GEJ would have gone to commission it, but even the very tunnel was taken away as soon as there was ever hope of light at the end of the tunnel. The news reads "Lack of support by labour stalls refineries’ sale"
To sell or to repair, to sell or to repair, to sell or to repair, March 3, mini mini mani mo. Well, some of the excerpts from the report are in the quote below.



The past FG wanted so badly to sell the refineries but for pressure from the labour people, and to avoid POLITICAL instability. Elections were coming and they didn't want any Occupy NNPC or whatever similar thing that might have disturbed them politically. It is therefore unfair and even criminal for anyone to commend the past administration for the current and sudden progress, development and production being experienced at the Nation's four refineries.
Finally, to the more recent and popular news about 2016 and the refineries. Any serious person as at that date knows this was yet another unserious promise. March 5, 2015, news headlines said "Refineries will produce 400,000bpd in 2016 – NNPC"

Excerpts from the reports below.


Here we are, its the beginning of August and the reports are that our refineries have started to work. Thanks to former President Jonathan? Really? Reality clearly shows he didn't even have an idea or clue.
Re: Jonathan's Government And The Refineries, Lest We Forget. by teamchocolate: 2:08pm On Aug 02, 2015
Wickedt grin grin grin

after1:
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Shut up hypocrite. Same way you insult the President daily from your coffin like room in Ghana. You attribute every bad thing he inherited from the last administration to him, but spewing jargons now. Shameless thing.
Re: Jonathan's Government And The Refineries, Lest We Forget. by 989900: 2:11pm On Aug 02, 2015
Happiness87:
[s]so What you just posted are not your personal opinions, i pity you.

hate Gej and die in Lagoon, 100 years to come you will not see him in jail, to hell with your false information to brainwash fools

its obvious you are a bigot, I hope APC is paying you well[/s]

Oh, the one that reasons with her rear is here.
Re: Jonathan's Government And The Refineries, Lest We Forget. by Happiness87(f): 2:12pm On Aug 02, 2015
989900:


Oh, the one that reasons with her rear is here.
bigots are here
Re: Jonathan's Government And The Refineries, Lest We Forget. by wiseoneking: 2:14pm On Aug 02, 2015
egift:
This is very insightful. For those needing a brief version, here it is:

1. Jonathan and his Team kept siphoning money through the Budget in the name of Refineries (construction, repair, TAM, etc) since 2012.
2. Made empty promises and claims as it was later known that not of such happened (yet the loot was never returned).
3. To impress us during the elections, Jonathan promised us 2016, if we reelect him and approve more billions for him and his gang.


Today under Buhari the Refineries are becoming operational again with phony back-dated tales from NNPC.

My take is: The Refineries had no problems. It was just a looting channel for the PDP. Today for the fear of Buhari and the PDP out of the way, everything is falling in line perfectly.

Kudos to Buhari. Haters can continue.
Old boy, soriooh, Buhari has already acknowledge Bro joe's work on the refineries. We thank Buhari also for fixing refinaries in your dream under one month.
Re: Jonathan's Government And The Refineries, Lest We Forget. by ManTiger(m): 2:17pm On Aug 02, 2015
Happiness87:
see how foolish you are, do you read at all.

who told you refineries were budgetted For TAM in 2012, ewu, keep embarrassing yourself
This guy posted a very good thread backed with factual links and evidences, yet to chose to be this stupid!


Shame on you!
Re: Jonathan's Government And The Refineries, Lest We Forget. by Nobody: 2:20pm On Aug 02, 2015
menxer:


....so what's intelligent about your comment, Mr.?
is it that you don't know how to communicate with the present government?

face your front, oga!
I am not living in the hellhole. The Nigerian government doesn't rule over me yet but you. Do something to make them fix the rotten infrastructure and bring better development to the nation. Is that too much to ask for?
Re: Jonathan's Government And The Refineries, Lest We Forget. by clevadani: 2:21pm On Aug 02, 2015
Happiness87:
see how foolish you are, do you read at all.

who told you refineries were budgetted For TAM in 2012, ewu, keep embarrassing yourself
U r extremely dull. After subsidy was removed in 2012, Jonathan promised to start the TAM of d refineries. And was included in d 2013 budget
www.punchng.com/business/business-economy/refineries-turnaround-maintenance-to-start-first-quarter-2013/
Mrs genius what happened to d money?? And also, y was refineries that were supposed to start working in 2016, start working in less than 2 mths?
Re: Jonathan's Government And The Refineries, Lest We Forget. by Bamz(m): 2:21pm On Aug 02, 2015
Image123,

Well done mate, this is a well researched and stimulating piece. Thumbs up!
Re: Jonathan's Government And The Refineries, Lest We Forget. by teamchocolate: 2:22pm On Aug 02, 2015
FYI, i don't watch TVC.. and it is you who is braindead.. did u even try to open the Op's links at all.. simple comprehension is a little too hard for you..but never mind, it's a happy sunday for me, so I will enlighten u.. Buhari never said I give the glory of the refineries performance to jonathan, he simply said ' I cannot take the credit for the operation of the refineries'. Those are two totally different things... so go and think about those 2 statements carefully.. if after thinking deeply, u still think am brain dead, then I rly can't help you, can I? cheesy




Happiness87:
you are braindead indeed, is that what Tvc stations told you or Buhari himself
Re: Jonathan's Government And The Refineries, Lest We Forget. by Happiness87(f): 2:40pm On Aug 02, 2015
my response to sentimental bigotted poo posted by 989900



1. The past administration's goal was not to get the refineries working.
Your personal opinion

2. According to Diezani, they were better sold off.
yes, because the foreign company that was saddled with the responsibility of revamping the refinery gave high quotation, it was better to sale it off than repair the refinery at that cost.

3. The 4 refineries needed just N99b (after as usual), but the past administration would rather spend trillions on importation of refined products, waste billions on flights and similar sorry things, while our refineries were purposefully left at averagely less than 15-20% functional capacity for years!
did importation of fuels start under GEj, even with the refineries working at full capacity would it have met the needs of nigerians daily, or do you suggest that the nation should shut down to importation and wait for the refineries to be refurbished

4. The non-working refineries meant merry business times for beneficiaries of it's near demise. From oil-swap frauds to subsidy fraud, while the rest of us bear the brunt -- from severe fuel scarcity, to drain on Forex, in effect, strangling of the Naira resulting in hyper-inflation, and ultimately impoverishment of the people.
has fuel importation stopped or has subsidy been removed , if you claim subsidy is scam then , President Buhari who ha sno plans for now to remove subsidy is also scamming Nigerians and benefitting from Subsidy scam through Tinubu's OANDO

5. The extent of GEJ's complicity is less known (at least to me).
Your poo personal opinion , very silly of you to claim that this is factual

6. The past admin would not have taken the TAM serious, nor initiate it's commencement in Oct. 2014, if the elections weren't coming up in Feb.2015 (see it's approach to Boko Haram in the build up to the elections for comparison).
poo personal opinion. If the refineries were to work after elections , how would that contribute to the success of his campaigns. He you even hear him mention it during campaigns. Elections are over were are BRING BACK OUR GIRLS CAMPAIGNERS. , awaiting to get juicy appointments abi!!!

7. If the past admin retained the presidency, it would have been business as usual and more of the same.
Even the earlier proposed completion date by NNPC (April, 2016), would have been nothing but some pipe dream, in lieu of this earlier completion dates -- cause 'there's a new Sheriff in town'.
is this what you claimed are factual, why did they import the parts needed for the maintenance in the first place, they shouldn't dont you think so!!

8. Contrary to some comments on here, it is actually possible to complete a TAM in 30-60 days or thereabout! TAM took roughly 100 days or thereabout at the Warri refinery in 2000, even though a sizeable portion of it was also affected by fire!
Where did your get your assumptions from. are you the project engineer? did you see the timeline to acertain the nature of what was done in 2000, and what is planned to be done

9. Most of the parts needed for the TAM for the PH refinery have actually been sitting locked up in containers at the Onne port for months before now!
thats what am saying, if they didnt have plans of refurbishing the place , why did they import the parts, the part you are refering to were not need at the time, if they had moved all the parts to the refineries where will they keep them. you know nothing about project management and Health and safety.

10. All the enumerated above are 'facts' carefully researched, vetted, and stated without any sentiment. If you do have any contrary opinion, kindly state it with facts, and not your personal opinion. #welearneveryday[/i]
bring the evidence showing all the pooo ypu earlier wrote.


you can only brainwash fool from South West who are bigots like you.

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Re: Jonathan's Government And The Refineries, Lest We Forget. by Happiness87(f): 2:43pm On Aug 02, 2015
ManTiger:

This guy posted a very good thread backed with factual links and evidences, yet to chose to be this stupid!


Shame on you!

idiot, shame on you, you have brain but you cant reason on your own, keep allowing your brains to be masturbated by APCpaid agents

stupid fool
read my responds below.



Refinery:

I actually posted this yesterday:

1. The past administration's goal was not to get the refineries working.
Your personal opinion

2. According to Diezani, they were better sold off.
yes, because the foreign company that was saddled with the responsibility of revamping the refinery gave high quotation, it was better to sale it off than repair the refinery at that cost.

3. The 4 refineries needed just N99b (after as usual), but the past administration would rather spend trillions on importation of refined products, waste billions on flights and similar sorry things, while our refineries were purposefully left at averagely less than 15-20% functional capacity for years!
did importation of fuels start under GEj, even with the refineries working at full capacity would it have met the needs of nigerians daily, or do you suggest that the nation should shut down to importation and wait for the refineries to be refurbished

4. The non-working refineries meant merry business times for beneficiaries of it's near demise. From oil-swap frauds to subsidy fraud, while the rest of us bear the brunt -- from severe fuel scarcity, to drain on Forex, in effect, strangling of the Naira resulting in hyper-inflation, and ultimately impoverishment of the people.
has fuel importation stopped or has subsidy been removed , if you claim subsidy is scam then , President Buhari who ha sno plans for now to remove subsidy is also scamming Nigerians and benefitting from Subsidy scam through Tinubu's OANDO

5. The extent of GEJ's complicity is less known (at least to me).
Your poo personal opinion , very silly of you to claim that this is factual

6. The past admin would not have taken the TAM serious, nor initiate it's commencement in Oct. 2014, if the elections weren't coming up in Feb.2015 (see it's approach to Boko Haram in the build up to the elections for comparison).
poo personal opinion. If the refineries were to work after elections , how would that contribute to the success of his campaigns. He you even hear him mention it during campaigns. Elections are over were are BRING BACK OUR GIRLS CAMPAIGNERS. , awaiting to get juicy appointments abi!!!

7. If the past admin retained the presidency, it would have been business as usual and more of the same.
Even the earlier proposed completion date by NNPC (April, 2016), would have been nothing but some pipe dream, in lieu of this earlier completion dates -- cause 'there's a new Sheriff in town'.
is this what you claimed are factual, why did they import the parts needed for the maintenance in the first place, they shouldn't dont you think so!!

8. Contrary to some comments on here, it is actually possible to complete a TAM in 30-60 days or thereabout! TAM took roughly 100 days or thereabout at the Warri refinery in 2000, even though a sizeable portion of it was also affected by fire!
Where did your get your assumptions from. are you the project engineer? did you see the timeline to acertain the nature of what was done in 2000, and what is planned to be done

9. Most of the parts needed for the TAM for the PH refinery have actually been sitting locked up in containers at the Onne port for months before now!
thats what am saying, if they didnt have plans of refurbishing the place , why did they import the parts, the part you are refering to were not need at the time, if they had moved all the parts to the refineries where will they keep them. you know nothing about project management and Health and safety.

10. All the enumerated above are 'facts' carefully researched, vetted, and stated without any sentiment. If you do have any contrary opinion, kindly state it with facts, and not your personal opinion. #welearneveryday
bring the evidence showing all the pooo ypu earlier wrote.

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Re: Jonathan's Government And The Refineries, Lest We Forget. by Happiness87(f): 2:46pm On Aug 02, 2015
HE-goat, HE is not taking glory from the refineries,

did the refineries then appear from thin air. ewu
teamchocolate:

FYI, i don't watch TVC.. and it is you who is braindead.. did u even try to open the Op's links at all.. simple comprehension is a little too hard for you..but never mind, it's a happy sunday for me, so I will enlighten u.. Buhari never said I give the glory of the refineries performance to jonathan, he simply said ' I cannot take the credit for the operation of the refineries'. Those are two totally different things... so go and think about those 2 statements carefully.. if after thinking deeply, u still think am brain dead, then I rly can't help you, can I? cheesy




Re: Jonathan's Government And The Refineries, Lest We Forget. by obo389(m): 2:47pm On Aug 02, 2015
Kenobus:
through out the post I didn't see where Buhari added anuthing to the repairs and GMB said so that he didn't do anything there. Deziani said it that the original builders couldn't come so they will use local engineers. Go and check Indorama, the coy assisted NNPC. Do u know?
sir,indorama which is Eleme petrol chemicals LTD, d petrochemical section of PH refinary was bought by indians.(OBJ).
no say na me tell u oo.
Re: Jonathan's Government And The Refineries, Lest We Forget. by Happiness87(f): 2:58pm On Aug 02, 2015
clevadani:

U r extremely dull. After subsidy was removed in 2012, Jonathan promised to start the TAM of d refineries. And was included in d 2013 budget
www.punchng.com/business/business-economy/refineries-turnaround-maintenance-to-start-first-quarter-2013/
Mrs genius what happened to d money?? And also, y was refineries that were supposed to start working in 2016, start working in less than 2 mths?
i thought you said it was budgetted for in 2012,

fool come lemme lecture you.

In 2013, Foreign experts. were in charge of TAM, after their assessments the cost of TAM was too high, The then minister suggested that instead of putting that much into the refinery, it should be sold out.
Consultations were made for the selling but Labour rejected the idea of selling it. Plans for the sales were cancelled. Then Local companies were consulted and they gave a relatively lower cost. and Gej approved it.

work began in October 2014.
go and learn the nitty gritties of project management, supply and logistics, Engineering, procurement and construction.
i don't have time to lecture you.

if you were expecting the project in 2013.
Initial contract with foreign firms were cancelled. -2013

plans to sell began -2013

plans to sell was cancelled. -2014

contract awarded to indigenous firm - 2014

project began - October 2014.

the builders and foreign consultants had a timeline of 18months because they planned a total overhauling, but the local company used 9 months

idiot stop allowing Apc to masturbate your brains

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Re: Jonathan's Government And The Refineries, Lest We Forget. by kenchylala: 3:00pm On Aug 02, 2015
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In this age of cheap internet, free access to google and other search engines, with online news media. It is unfortunate that many are attempting to twist and turn VERY RECENT History in everyone's face. i will like to use this thread to remind us with verifiable links what obtained in the GEJ administration as regards our oil refineries. In a nutshell(for those who don't want to read long post), the past administration/government lacked progressive direction as regards the refineries. The below facts are things everyone knows even though some choose to forget.

As at November 23, 2012, the news was "Refineries’ turnaround maintenance to start first quarter 2013"

Below are some excerpts from the news report, all are free to read the full report from the link given.





The next month of that same year, December 15, 2012. The story developed k-leg. The headline was "[url=http://www.punchng.com/news/fg-drops-planned-refinery-projects-%E2%80%A2jonathan-must-tackle-fuel-subsidy-corruption-labour/]FG drops planned refinery projects •Jonathan must tackle fuel subsidy corruption–Labour[/url]"

Here are some excerpts from the report.


The above quotes would have been funny if they were not utterly pathetic. It was all mouth, no action.


Ten days later, Christmas day, it was still discordant tunes as regards refining crude oil in Nigeria.
December 25, 2012, News headlines read "NNPC plans to repair three refineries with N152bn"
Some excerpts from the report are in the quote below.


Don't hiss just yet, the drama continues one year later.

November 28, 2013, the story had not improved in any way. The headline was "FG completes negotiations for Port Harcourt refinery"
Some excerpts from the reports are in the quote below.



It'leaves much to be desired when less than a year before, billions of naira were said to be approved and paid for maintenance, and we were expected to have billions of litres of products in 2013. But by November 2013, they were finally completed on selling the refinery without any so called 18.64 billion litres of products derived from local refining.

Enter last year, January 3, 2014. The news had it that "Jonathan hasn’t approved sale of refineries, says Abati" Don't get dizzy by the ding-dong, fasten your seat belts and read some excerpts from the report in the quote below.



So, did anything concrete or progressive happen all through last year as regards our four refineries? [size=13pt]NO[/size]. You can be sure, it would have being in the TRANSFORMATION campaigns. By the ending of the year, last year, our refineries were still hopeless despite all the billions of naira spent on TAM and all the failed promises.
November 24, 2014, News was "Oil slump: Nigeria’s crude refining to drop further" Our REFINING dropped further, the GEJ government did not sell them or produce anything tangible for the benefit of the country.
Some excerpts from the news report are in the quote below.


Quite a grim report, the unpatriotic acts and deliberate sabotage in the past government was unchecked. Did elections, campaigns and a new year improve anything during the GEJ administration? NO

This year 2015. March 3, 2015. This was ELECTIONS month, if the GEJ administration had any hope as regards our 4 refineries, any sort of joker, or light at the end of the tunnel, this was the time they would have presented it. GEJ would have gone to commission it, but even the very tunnel was taken away as soon as there was ever hope of light at the end of the tunnel. The news reads "Lack of support by labour stalls refineries’ sale"
To sell or to repair, to sell or to repair, to sell or to repair, March 3, mini mini mani mo. Well, some of the excerpts from the report are in the quote below.



The past FG wanted so badly to sell the refineries but for pressure from the labour people, and to avoid POLITICAL instability. Elections were coming and they didn't want any Occupy NNPC or whatever similar thing that might have disturbed them politically. It is therefore unfair and even criminal for anyone to commend the past administration for the current and sudden progress, development and production being experienced at the Nation's four refineries.
Finally, to the more recent and popular news about 2016 and the refineries. Any serious person as at that date knows this was yet another unserious promise. March 5, 2015, news headlines said "Refineries will produce 400,000bpd in 2016 – NNPC"

Excerpts from the reports below.


Here we are, its the beginning of August and the reports are that our refineries have started to work. Thanks to former President Jonathan? Really? Reality clearly shows he didn't even have an idea or clue.


Are you done? Even PMB knows better on this matter. APC una done start again

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