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Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient NIGERIANS? by Nobody: 10:26pm On Aug 22, 2015
A language that is thousands of miles away from us...and in popular 'wisdom' bears no connection to our shores.... Here are the names their parents name their children...

Remi
Fumi
Ejiro
Kano
Sambo
Chikuma.................... (Chukwuma?)
Chika
Izu
Tomori
Ikimi
Osaru..........................(Osaro?)
Ume
Azuka
Kenichi
Emiko..........................(Emiko.... Itsekiri?)
Goro............................(Gworo......Hausa kolanut?)
Akemi..........................(Kemi?)
Gombei
Koruba..........................(Yoruba?)
Ginko............................(Ginika?)
Okubo





........And Towns:

Kano
Edo
Sango
Ebetsu.....................(Egbesu?)
Shinkawa..................(Shinkafi?)
Ogi
Haruna
Akechi.......................{Nkechi?)
Ibara.........................(Ibarapa, Ogun State?)
Kure...........................(Akure?)
Okada.........................(Okada, Edo State?)
Azuma-san (mountain).........(Zuma Rock, Niger State?)
Obirin
Minna-jima (island)................(Minna)
Ibuki............................(Buki?)
Sanjo.............................(Oba..sanjo?)
Rumoi...............(Rumumoi, Port harcourt)
Aso-san (mountain)...........(Aso Rock Abuja?)
Iwaya...........................(Iwaya, Yaba Lagos)
Obira...........................(Ebira, Kogi State?)


For more research into this visit:

http://www.stewartsynopsis.com/links_to_japanese_and_african_la.htm
Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient NIGERIANS? by Drchristian(f): 10:30pm On Aug 22, 2015
lol grin
Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient NIGERIANS? by Hawlahscho(m): 10:32pm On Aug 22, 2015
Ask lalasticlala
Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient NIGERIANS? by MyPWisINCORRECT: 10:46pm On Aug 22, 2015
iDuck...meanwhile have you heard Alabama in USA was named after a remote village called Abalama in Rivers State?

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Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient NIGERIANS? by HDee(m): 10:49pm On Aug 22, 2015
seriously??
Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient NIGERIANS? by Nobody: 10:54pm On Aug 22, 2015
MyPWisINCORRECT:
iDuck...meanwhile have you heard Alabama in USA was named after a remote village called Abalama in Rivers State?

You will have to do A LOT BETTER than that to challenge the apparent connections. Dumbed down responses like that won't cut it.

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Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient NIGERIANS? by Idrismusty97(m): 10:59pm On Aug 22, 2015
Nigerians can't buy all these ideas even if proven. Some will simply be shocked just by reading the topic because of years of inferiority complex... In the minds of many no white/colour race can ever descend from ancient Nigerians/blacks.
Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient NIGERIANS? by Nobody: 11:06pm On Aug 22, 2015
Idrismusty97:
Nigerians can't buy all these ideas even if proven. Some will simply be shocked just by reading the topic because of years of inferiority complex... In the minds of many no white/colour race can ever descend from ancient Nigerians/blacks.

That's actually quite shocking because the global scientific consensus is on the 'Out of Africa' thesis, which states that migrants from Africa went out to populate the rest of the globe in antiquity, and are the ancestors of all the 'non-African' groups in existence today. There is actually very little disagreement among scholars worldwide over this basic premise.
Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient NIGERIANS? by faithfuldon7(m): 11:13pm On Aug 22, 2015
IDAHO in USA just like my home Town IDAH in kogi State
Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient NIGERIANS? by Nobody: 11:16pm On Aug 22, 2015
faithfuldon7:
IDAHO in USA just like my home Town IDAH in kogi State

That's ONE similarity. Can you list 50 more?

By the way Idaho is a Mexican name, and there is fulsome evidence of ancient West African migration to Mexico, led by groups such as the Olmecs. Have you heard of the Olmecs?
Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient NIGERIANS? by Shymm3x: 11:22pm On Aug 22, 2015
Are ancient Greeks also Nigerians cos a lot of traditional greek names look Nigerian. grin

Shyte some Romani tribes close to the Caucasus also share about 1% of their DNA with some Nigerians. I guess they also descended from ancient Nigerians. grin grin grin

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Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient NIGERIANS? by Nobody: 11:27pm On Aug 22, 2015
Shymm3x:
Are ancient Greeks also Nigerians cos a lot of traditional greek names look Nigerian.

Shyte some Romani tribes close to the Caucasus also share about 1% of their DNA with some Nigerians. I guess they also descended from ancient Nigerians.


Where do you think ancient Greeks came from? Russia? China? Mexico? Dude, I thought you knew better. The ancient Greeks were direct descendants of African migrants. Also it would help if you LISTED the Greek names you claim sound Nigerian. Leave out irrelevancies like your 'Romani tribes near the Caucasus'. And lose the smilies pls.....they're irritating.
Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient NIGERIANS? by Shymm3x: 11:48pm On Aug 22, 2015
ROSSIKE:


Where do you think ancient Greeks came from? Russia? China? Mexico? Dude, I thought you knew better. The ancient Greeks were direct descendants of African migrants. Also it would help if you LISTED the Greek names you claim sound Nigerian. Leave out irrelevancies like your 'Romani tribes near the Caucasus'. And lose the smilies pls.....they're irritating.

But isn't Nigeria about 55 years old? And isn't the name Nigeria a recent construct from the word "Nig.ger" (a name given to river as Niger - meaning: black) and "area"? So how will the Japanese who have a history dating back to over 3,000 years descend from a Nigeria that's barely 60 years old?

Please, the ancient Greeks were the first to leave caucasus mountain and I don't know who they descended from, apart their arrival near ancient Egypt. And there were also black Greeks. The Russians were the last to leave the caucasus mountains. And Mexicans are an admixture of Olmecs (ancient Africans who migrated to the Americas), African slaves, Europeans, and a few tribes from Indo-Asia.

And "Nike" and "Dare" for example are Greek names and I'm sure some Yoruba folks also bear the names. But how does that change the fact that both the Greeks and Yorubas are two distinct groups with no connection whatsoever?

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Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient NIGERIANS? by Nobody: 12:01am On Aug 23, 2015
Shymm3x:


But isn't Nigeria about 55 years old? And isn't the name Nigeria a recent construct from the word "Nig.ger" (a name given to river as Niger - meaning: black) and "area"? So how will the Japanese who have a history dating back to over 3,000 years descend from a Nigeria that's barely 60 years old?
Don't be ridiculous. We speak of 'ancient Americans' and 'native Americans'. Does that mean there was a country called America 3000 years ago? Of course common sense should tell you we are referring to the people of the geographical region currently known as 'Nigeria' or 'America' etc.


And "Nike" and "Dare" for example are Greek names and I'm sure some Yoruba folks also bear the names. But how does that change the fact that both the Greeks and Yorubas are two distinct groups with no connection whatsoever?

Name 40 OR 50 Greek names that sound 'Nigerian', just like I did with the Japanese, NOT 1 or 2, or you're being intellectually dishonest.

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Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient NIGERIANS? by tpiander: 12:02am On Aug 23, 2015
sounds like someone has been digging up people's personal info again. . . . . . . .(not referring to op).

as usual. . . . . . . . . .
Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient NIGERIANS? by Shymm3x: 12:12am On Aug 23, 2015
ROSSIKE:

Don't be ridiculous. We speak of 'ancient Americans' and 'native Americans'. Does that mean there was a country called America 3000 years ago? Of course common sense should tell you we are referring to the people of the geographical region currently known as 'Nigeria' or 'America' etc.

Name 40 OR 50 Greek names that sound 'Nigerian', just like I did with the Japanese, NOT 1 or 2, or you're being intellectually dishonest.

"Ancient Americans" represent a region with a long history - the Americas. I've never heard anyone allude to ancient United States of Americans, ancient Brazilians, ancient Mexicans, ancient Jamaicans etc.. Even with Europe, have you ever heard anyone allude to ancient English folks, ancient French folks, ancient Italians etc..? So what the hell is ancient Nigerians, especially for a young country that's barely 60 years old, and a modern construct from the fusion of the word "Ni.gger" and "area"? That's utterly disrespectful to Japanese culture, folks, and their rich history.

Ain't no one got time to start digging up names - but there are tons of ancient Greek names that sound Nigerian.

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Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient NIGERIANS? by Nobody: 12:30am On Aug 23, 2015
Shymm3x:


"Ancient Americans" represent a region with a long history - the Americas.

Nigeria is also a region with a long history - Nigeria. Nigerian history is older than the history of ''the Americas'', unless you are a historical illiterate.

I've never heard anyone allude to ancient United States of Americans, ancient Brazilians, ancient Mexicans...

You need to read more and argue less.

Here are references to Ancient Mexico, 'Pre-Columbian Mexico', 'ancient Italians', 'ancient France', 'ancient Spain' etc.

http://www.heritage-history.com/?c=read&author=ober&book=mexico&story=ancient

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Mexico#Pre-Columbian_Mexico

http://www.britannica.com/topic/ancient-Italic-people

http://www.localhistories.org/ancientfrance.html

http://ancienthistory.about.com/od/spain/a/071311-Hispania.htm


And we know full well there were no countries known as ''Mexico'' or ''Italy'' or ''France'' or ''Spain'' thousands of years ago.


Even the term ''ancient Japanese'' can be dismissed according to your logic, since Japan is actually a FOREIGN term given the country by recent European arrivals. Yet you grandly informed us about the ''ancient Japanese culture of 3000 years''. A more accurate term for the nation is 'Nippon'.


Ain't no one got time to start digging up names - but there are tons of ancient Greek names that sound Nigerian.

Name the names or 'shut it'. Like I said, you need to study more and argue less.
Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient NIGERIANS? by Shymm3x: 12:44am On Aug 23, 2015
ROSSIKE:

Nigeria is also a region with a long history - Nigeria. Nigerian history is older than the history of ''the Americas'', unless you are a historical illiterate.

Nah, you're an effing stark illiterate with the IQ of a panda. Nigeria is the fusion of "Ni.gger" and "area" and the darn word came into existence in the 20th century. So what the fvck is ancient about a modern construct? I reiterate: have you ever heard anyone allude to ancient Italians, ancient English folks, or ancient French folks, despite how medieval those constructs are? Yet in ya obtuse mind, you think a modern construct should be qualified with ancient, no? You're a clown! grin


You need to read more and argue less.

Here are references to Ancient Mexico, and 'Pre-Columbian Mexico'

http://www.heritage-history.com/?c=read&author=ober&book=mexico&story=ancient

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Mexico#Pre-Columbian_Mexico

And we know full well there was no country known as ''Mexico'' thousands of years ago.

And did I ever allude to anything ancient about Mexico? I'm lost here, mate. The Americas is the Americas - Mexico is a modern construct and there's nothing ancient about it.

Even the term ''ancient Japanese'' can be dismissed according to your logic, since Japan is actually a FOREIGN term given the country by recent European arrivals. Yet you informed us about the ''ancient Japanese culture of 3000 years''. A more accurate term for the nation is 'Nippon'.

Nah, Japan is actually the English distortion of an ancient name for the people from there. The Chinese have been calling them Cipangu (people of the Sun) from time immemorial and that was the name Marco Polo ran with and messed up with his Italian language, before the English language further bastardised it to "Giapan" and now "Japan". Heck, even when Marco Polo distorted the name - that was in the 13th century and quite ancient if you ask me. grin

Name the names or 'shut it'. Like I said, you need to study more and argue less.

Nah, you need to stop ya useless hypothesis - folks from Japan have nothing in common with anything/anyone from Africa or black people. Just leave those people alone.
Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient NIGERIANS? by Nobody: 1:21am On Aug 23, 2015
Shymm3x:


Nah, you're an effing stark illiterate with the IQ of a panda. Nigeria is the fusion of "Ni.gger" and "area" and the darn word came into existence in the 20th century.

Not sure where you got your little racist idea from. The colonising English combined the term Niger with Area. Niger being an ancient term for the great river:

''The earliest use of the name 'Niger' for the river is by Leo Africanus in his Della descrittione dell’Africa et delle cose notabili che iui sono published in Italian in 1550. The name may come from Berber phrase ger-n-ger meaning 'river of rivers'.[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niger_River


So what the fvck is ancient about a modern construct? I reiterate: have you ever heard anyone allude to ancient Italians, ancient English folks, or ancient French folks, despite how medieval those constructs are? Yet in ya obtuse mind, you think a modern construct should be qualified with ancient, no? You're a clown!

I just listed above, a series of nations that meet your 'challenge', and you act like it never happened!


And did I ever allude to anything ancient about Mexico? I'm lost here, mate. The Americas is the Americas - Mexico is a modern construct and there's nothing ancient about it.

Actually what YOU think is utterly irrelevant. As I showed above, it is etymologically correct to refer to 'ancient Mexico' etc, as have numerous scholars and researchers. You CAN use the term for a modern geographical construct to describe its ancient inhabitants. It aids understanding. When you say the 'ancient Aztecs', many may have no clue where their land was based. The term 'Ancient Mexico' solves that problem. Just as ''ancient Nigerian cultures'' solves the geographical problem of locating ancient Benin, Oyo, Igbo, Hausa etc to those unfamiliar with our region.


Nah, Japan is actually the English distortion of an ancient name for the people from there. The Chinese have been calling them Cipangu (people of the Sun) from time immemorial and that was the name Marco Polo ran with and messed up with his Italian language, before the English language further bastardised it to "Giapan" and now "Japan".

So why were you referring to the ''ancient Japanese culture of 3,000 years'' when 'Japan' is just ''an English construct''? Were there Englishmen around 3,000 years ago? (Nope) By your logic, it is incorrect to use the term ''Ancient Japanese''.


Nah, you need to stop ya useless hypothesis - folks from Japan have nothing in common with anything/anyone from Africa or black people. Just leave those people alone.

Historical illiteracy in full flow. Explain the linguistic connections. (And no, ''I know many Greek names that also sound Nigerian, but I'm too tired to list them'' is NO RESPONSE).

Ever heard of the 'Out of Africa' thesis by the way? Do you have a contrary theory on the population of the planet?

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Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient NIGERIANS? by ORACLE1975(m): 5:34am On Aug 23, 2015
Naijaland I hail ooooooo
Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient NIGERIANS? by Shymm3x: 7:12am On Aug 23, 2015
ROSSIKE:

Not sure where you got your little racist idea from. The colonising English combined the term Niger with Area. Niger being an ancient term for the great river:

''The earliest use of the name 'Niger' for the river is by Leo Africanus in his Della descrittione dell’Africa et delle cose notabili che iui sono published in Italian in 1550. The name may come from Berber phrase ger-n-ger meaning 'river of rivers'.[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niger_River

I just listed above, a series of nations that meet your 'challenge', and you act like it never happened!

Actually what YOU think is utterly irrelevant. As I showed above, it is etymologically correct to refer to 'ancient Mexico' etc, as have numerous scholars and researchers. You CAN use the term for a modern geographical construct to describe its ancient inhabitants. It aids understanding. When you say the 'ancient Aztecs', many may have no clue where their land was based. The term 'Ancient Mexico' solves that problem. Just as ''ancient Nigerian cultures'' solves the geographical problem of locating ancient Benin, Oyo, Igbo, Hausa etc to those unfamiliar with our region.

So why were you referring to the ''ancient Japanese culture of 3,000 years'' when 'Japan' is just ''an English construct''? Were there Englishmen around 3,000 years ago? (Nope) By your logic, it is incorrect to use the term ''Ancient Japanese''.

Historical illiteracy in full flow. Explain the linguistic connections. (And no, ''I know many Greek names that also sound Nigerian, but I'm too tired to list them'' is NO RESPONSE).

Ever heard of the 'Out of Africa' thesis by the way? Do you have a contrary theory on the population of the planet?

Lmao. You are just as vacuous and blinkered as your pseudo-historical junk. This is what happens when bladdered folks start hallucinating and trying to add utter ridiculous conjectures together. I swear I need to go Dre day on you like Dr Dre did in the "Still Dre" tune. You think cos I joke around these days I'm not the same muthaphucka who used to educate ya arse on history, no? You must be out of ya cotton picking mind if you think I lost all that wealth of knowledge.

1). Let's start with Berber. Citing Berber, a modern construct for different groups around the Niger River just shows how obtuse you are. Berber never even existed during Medieval times, so how whatever conjecture you spouted up there been possible or have any correlation with anything ancient? In case you don't know, Berbers are an admixture of the Moors and other African tribes.

Now let's get to the word "Niger"/"Ni.gger". Prior to racist arse Mungo Park giving that great river a racist name (the name had become a dehumanising name at that point in history - ni.gger means black) - all the African tribes around it call it different names. The Yorubas for example call it "Oya". And that was why before Mungo Park, and a next racist prick naming a young country "Ni.gger-area" a la Nigeria in the 20th century. So if you are not blinkered, why would even qualify it with ancient?

2). Aztecs are Aztecs and Olmecs are Olmecs - there is nothing ancient about Mexico. Even the admixture in today's is overwhelmingly more European than anything indigenous. So why qualify it with ancient? That is why I always tell you lot to always use timeline when discussing history. But then again most of you are history illiterates.

3). The fact that Marco Polo and the English language bastardised "Cipangu", that doesn't negate the fact that it is the ancient name for Japan by the Chinese and it still means people of the sun or the land where the sun rises even in the bastardised English version. Also in modern Mandarin which has been polluted by English language - it is spelt as "Jagpan". So it is still the same unlike Nigeria that is an entirely new construct. The name Japan (people of sun or people of the Island where the sun rises) is over 3,000 years old. Tutoring for you, mate.

Also, would you say because "Yoruba" and "Congo" are the bastardisation of certain words, that negates the history behind those names?

4). Loool. You are gift that keeps on giving. I gave you "Nike" and "Dare" as Greek names which are also Yoruba names. "Bara" and "Dada" are other ones. I can give you tons of examples but how does that negate the fact that both groups have no connection whatsoever?

And no, the. "Out of Africa" theory isn't applicable here cos those who occupy from present day Nigeria migrated from other places.

Stop daydreaming and claiming folks who have no connection whatsoever with you.

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Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient NIGERIANS? by AFISON: 9:07am On Aug 23, 2015
The answer is in the shape of the world map, in relation to the positions of the continents. Try merging the continental land masses. The earth was once one landmass, until the big bang.
Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient NIGERIANS? by tpiander: 5:14am On Aug 24, 2015
big bang refers to the hypothetical creation of the universe, not separation of the continents.

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