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Re: Roots In Paganism by tartar9(m): 11:24am On Aug 28, 2015 |
ByfireByfire:lmao who worships the Master and Seal of Prophethood and yet you Fools do as if you know anything about Islam.why didn't u answer my question,is that your crucified thief 'God' or not? 1 Like |
Re: Roots In Paganism by tartar9(m): 11:30am On Aug 28, 2015 |
parisbookaddict:How can a robot that only understands YES/NO reason. 3 Likes |
Re: Roots In Paganism by Hmajeed(m): 11:48am On Aug 28, 2015 |
parisbookaddict:. You claim to read the Quran objectively and as well as the bible .. but did you skip the those songs of solomon .. having such filth in a divine book .. I can't believe your claim to have been listening to lectures by Naik and co .. and you remain in Christianity .. Then I recommend for you THE PURPOSE OF LIFE BY KHALID YASIN. and what I meant was a Muslim Cleric not just anyone with a Muslim background ....#think and you shall be saved |
Re: Roots In Paganism by Blackfire(m): 11:55am On Aug 28, 2015 |
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Re: Roots In Paganism by Empiree: 12:03pm On Aug 28, 2015 |
parisbookaddict:Rubbish! Where is force used in the pictures?. Did you see anyone tied down by force to pray Islamic way in there? Who forced who?. Obviously it's not Muslim preacher but their own pastor. Besides, the phrase "force" is used by media propaganda BS. They are simply convinced by message of islam. It's obvious the pastor conceded defeat. He appears to be sitting behind in the last picture. Zakat?. Madam, you need to keep quiet in the matter of Islam. You compared zakat to tithes?. You better give up your bs on islam and face the reality. 2 Likes |
Re: Roots In Paganism by Hmajeed(m): 12:20pm On Aug 28, 2015 |
parisbookaddict:You claim Michael Hart a Scholar to reckon with in History is an ordinary man ... in order to render a book he wrote of sincerity useless .. he already mentioned ppl like you will attack him .. and your claim that I quoted a kafir book is ... out of point ... The Prophet Muhammad said : Words of wisdom (knowledge) is a Muslim lost possession he takes wherever he finds it .. Whenever you wanna quote a Quranic verse make sure you quote from the beginning and not a phrase from the verse and preferably you quote the preceding verse dont just copy post from a website make ur own research .. The bible speaks : * If anyone, even your own family suggests worshipping another God, kill them. (Deuteronomy 13: *** Kill anyone with a different religion. (Deuteronomy 17:2-7 ). |
Re: Roots In Paganism by ByfireByfire: 12:25pm On Aug 28, 2015 |
tartar9:. Answer my own question first oh worshipper of serial murderer/pedophile muhammed : Is prophet Isa a criminal and a thief? Did he do any of the abominable despicable things your wicked false prophet muhammad do? And please speak good english but if you can't then leave that your almajiri school and enroll in a qualified western education body if your boko haram companions will allow you. Wicked murder-ready terrorist!! 1 Like |
Re: Roots In Paganism by tartar9(m): 2:44pm On Aug 28, 2015 |
ByfireByfire:did I name anybody? quit running from my question;is your crucified animal 'God' or not? |
Re: Roots In Paganism by parisbookaddict(f): 4:37pm On Aug 28, 2015 |
Empiree:[size=13pt] Talking about media propaganda, u posted the alleged news article, u said over 400 church members forced to convert, there isn't more than 50 people in those pictures. Muslim exaggeration as usual. Again, this article could be and most likely is pro Islamic propaganda, where is his picture as a pastor, where is his church All I see is a African muslim wanabe Arab with a scarf leading prayers for less than 50people outside in an article posted by a known al taqiyya using Muslime called empiree. show facts man, where is his church, where is he preaching as a pastor, u have none. Mr al taqiyya [/size] 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Roots In Paganism by parisbookaddict(f): 4:47pm On Aug 28, 2015 |
Hmajeed: Naki has been caught lying several times. Do u know he is in support of slavery and sex slavery because the quran encourages it. The dude is so angry when preaching or debating just like Ahmed deedat. Do u know Ahmed deedat once said that may the mouths of the lairs be sealed and shortly after he was struck with stroke that rendered him unable to speak for 9years till his death. I will look for ur recommeded book when I can. But the honest truth is that I know too much about Islam that I can't be decieved by al taqiyya. I can spot it miles away. I want to recommend a book for u, infact 2 books, The purpose driven life by Rick warren and mere Christianity by CS Lewis, u can get free abridged copies online if u don't want buy it. The don't mention Islam, but they both explain Christianity. Pure and simple. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Roots In Paganism by Empiree: 4:55pm On Aug 28, 2015 |
parisbookaddict:[size=15pt]NaijaGists[/size] Is A Christian Owned Website: http://naijagists.com/photos-drama-in-rwanda-as-pastor-forces-480-church-members-to-convert-to-islam/ ^ That's Where I Got It From. Not Pro-Islam One. Also Reported Here: http://www.tori.ng/news/7536/shocking-pastor-and-his-480-church-members-convert.html A Non-Islamic Website. So If You Have Problem Go And Talk To Them...Woman. 3 Likes |
Re: Roots In Paganism by parisbookaddict(f): 4:57pm On Aug 28, 2015 |
Hmajeed: I dont Apotheosize people.. u can Apotheosize micheal hart like u do mohammed ur imams and clerics thats ur cup of tea.. since u take peoples opinions seriously i will post Winston Churchills view on islam.. one of the great leaders of the 20th century. 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Roots In Paganism by parisbookaddict(f): 5:01pm On Aug 28, 2015 |
Empiree: Its fake news spread by al taqiyyah using muslims. Count the people in that pic..less than 50.. where is the church that was converted, churxh signboard at least use ur head, are u that ignorant? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Roots In Paganism by Empiree: 5:13pm On Aug 28, 2015 |
parisbookaddict:Dont you get it...woman?. They are christian websites. So I would imagine you would contact them directly. You vexing your bs on me is irrelevant 2 Likes |
Re: Roots In Paganism by parisbookaddict(f): 5:18pm On Aug 28, 2015 |
Empiree: Stop spreading false information. I dont know how u managed to label it a christian website. The word u mean in secular....the origin which was a facebook post was most likely the usual muslim using al taqiyyah to spread islam. 2 Likes |
Re: Roots In Paganism by Empiree: 5:28pm On Aug 28, 2015 |
parisbookaddict:Done with you madam. Sounds like you dont get it. Oh I get it....you scared - that's what it is. 1 Like |
Re: Roots In Paganism by Hmajeed(m): 8:24pm On Aug 28, 2015 |
parisbookaddict:I don't apotheosize anyone except that I like to Glorify works don out of truth and sincerity .. The man you quoted above is a politician and former Prime minister of UK and as no scholarly personality .. The books he write were about his times at war .. during his days as soldier ... Below are What famous non-Muslims said about Islam and Prophet Muhammad PBUH Napoleon Bonaparte I hope the time is not far off when I shall be able to unite all the wise and educated men of all the countries and establish a uniform regime based on the principles of Quran which alone are true and which alone can lead men to happiness. Sir George Bernard Shaw I have always held the religion of Muhammad in high estimation because of its wonderful vitality. It is the only religion which appears to me to possess that assimilating capacity to the changing phase of existence which can make itself appeal to every age. I have studied him - the wonderful man and in my opinion far from being an anti-Christ, he must be called the Saviour of Humanity. I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness : I have prophesied about the faith of Muhammad that it would be acceptable to the Europe of tomorrow as it is beginning to be acceptable to the Europe of today. H.G. Wells The Islamic teachings have left great traditions for equitable and gentle dealings and behaviour, and inspire people with nobility and tolerance . These are human teachings of the highest order and at the same time practicable. These teachings brought into existence a society in which hard- heartedness and collective oppression and injustice were the least as compared with all other societies preceding it… Islam is replete with gentleness, courtesy, and fraternity . Phillip Hitti During all the first part of the Middle Ages, no other people made as important a contribution to human progress as did the Arabs , if we take this term to mean all those whose mother-tongue was Arabic, and not merely those living in the Arabian peninsula. For centuries, Arabic was the language of learning, culture and intellectual progress for the whole of the civilized world with the exception of the Far East. From the 9th to the 12th century there were more philosophical, medical, historical, religious, astronomical and geographical works written in Arabic than in any other human tongue. R. Bosworth Smith He was Caesar and Pope in one; but he was Pope without Pope’s pretensions , Caesar without the legions of Caesar: without a standing army, without a bodyguard, without a palace, without a fixed revenue; if ever any man had the right to say that he ruled by the right divine, it was Mohammed, for he had all the power without its instruments and without its supports. He cared not for the dressings of power. The simplicity of his private life was in keeping with his public life. Sarojini Naidu It was the first religion that preached and practised democracy; for, in the mosque, when the call for prayer is sounded and worshippers are gathered together, the democracy of Islam is embodied five times a day when the peasant and king kneel side by side and proclaim: ‘God Alone is Great’ Dr. William Draper Four years after the death of Justinian, A.D. 569, was born in Mecca, in Arabia, the man who, of all men, has exercised the greatest influence upon the human race… To be the religious head of many empires, to guide the daily life of one-third of the human race, may perhaps justify the title of a Messenger of God. Thomas Carlyle The lies (Western slander) which well-meaning zeal has heaped round this man (Muhammad) are disgraceful to ourselves only. A silent great soul, one of that who cannot but be earnest. He was to kindle the world, the world’s Maker had ordered so. A. S. Tritton The picture of the Muslim soldier advancing with a sword in one hand and the Qur’an in the other is quite false. De Lacy O’Leary History makes it clear, however, that the legend of fanatical Muslims sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of sword upon conquered races is one of the most fantastically absurd myths that historians have ever repeated. Gibbon The good sense of Muhammad despised the pomp of royalty. The Apostle of God submitted to the menial offices of the family; he kindled the fire; swept the floor; milked the ewes; and mended with his own hands his shoes and garments. Disdaining the penance and merit of a hermit, he observed without effort of vanity the abstemious diet of an Arab. Edward Gibbon and Simon Oakley The greatest success of Mohammad’s life was effected by sheer moral force. Edward Montet Islam is a religion that is essentially rationalistic in the widest sense of this term considered etymologically and historically … the teachings of the Prophet, the Qur’an has invariably kept its place as the fundamental starting point, and the dogma of unity of God has always been proclaimed therein with a grandeur a majesty, an invariable purity and with a note of sure conviction, which it is hard to find surpassed outside the pale of Islam… A creed so precise, so stripped of all theological complexities and consequently so accessible to the ordinary understanding might be expected to possess and does indeed possess a marvellous power of winning its way into the consciences of men. Mahatma Gandhi I wanted to know the best of the life of one who holds today an undisputed sway over the hearts of millions of mankind… I became more than ever convinced that it was not the sword that won a place for Islam in those days in the scheme of life. It was the rigid simplicity, the utter self-effacement of the Prophet the scrupulous regard for pledges, his intense devotion to his friends and followers, his intrepidity, his fearlessness, his absolute trust in God and in his own mission. These and not the sword carried everything before them and surmounted every obstacle. When I closed the second volume (of the Prophet’s biography), I was sorry there was not more for me to read of that great life. Alphonse de LaMartaine If greatness of purpose, smallness of means, and astonishing results are the three criteria of a human genius, who could dare compare any great man in history with Muhammad? The most famous men created arms, laws, and empires only. They founded, if anything at all, no more than material powers which often crumbled away before their eyes. This man moved not only armies, legislations, empires, peoples, dynasties, but millions of men in one-third of the then inhabited world; and more than that, he moved the altars, the gods, the religions, the ideas, the beliefs and the souls. Michael Hart My choice of Muhammad to lead the list of the world’s most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the secular and religious level. …It is probable that the relative influence of Muhammad on Islam has been larger than the combined influence of Jesus Christ and St. Paul on Christianity. . ..It is this unparalleled combination of secular and religious influence which I feel entitles Muhammad to be considered the most influential single figure in human history. Rodwell Mohammad’s career is a wonderful instance of the force and life that resides in him who possesses an intense faith in God and in the unseen world. He will always be regarded as one of those who have had that influence over the faith, morals and whole earthly life of their fellow men, which none but a really great man ever did, or can exercise; and whose efforts to propagate a great verity will prosper. W. Montgomery Watt His readiness to undergo persecution for his beliefs, the high moral character of the men who believed in him and looked up to him as a leader, and the greatness of his ultimate achievement - all argue his fundamental integrity. To suppose Muhammad an impostor raises more problems that it solves. Moreover, none of the great figures of history is so poorly appreciated in the West as Muhammad … Thus, not merely must we credit Muhammad with essential honesty and integrity of purpose, if we are to understand him at all; if we are to correct the errors we have inherited from the past, we must not forget the conclusive proof is a much stricter requirement than a show of plausibility, and in a matter such as this only to be attained with difficulty. D. G. Hogarth in ‘Arabia’ Serious or trivial, his daily behaviour has instituted a canon which millions observe this day with conscious memory. No one regarded by any section of the human race as Perfect Man has ever been imitated so minutely. The conduct of the founder of Christianity has not governed the ordinary life of his followers. Moreover, no founder of a religion has left on so solitary an eminence as the Muslim apostle. Washington Irving He was sober and abstemious in his diet and a rigorous observer of fasts. He indulged in no magnificence of apparel, the ostentation of a petty mind; neither was his simplicity in dress affected but a result of real disregard for distinction from so trivial a source. In his private dealings he was just. He treated friends and strangers, the rich and poor, the powerful and weak, with equity, and was beloved by the common people for the affability with which he received them, and listened to their complaints. His military triumphs awakened no pride nor vain glory, as they would have done had they been effected for selfish purposes . In the time of his greatest power he maintained the same simplicity of manners and appearance as in the days of his adversity. So far from affecting a regal state, he was displeased if, on entering a room, any unusual testimonials of respect were shown to him . If he aimed at a universal dominion, it was the dominion of faith; as to the temporal rule which grew up in his hands, as he used it without ostentation, so he took no step to perpetuate it in his family. James Michener No other religion in history spread so rapidly as Islam. The West has widely believed that this surge of religion was made possible by the sword. But no modern scholar accepts this idea, and the Qur’an is explicit in the support of the freedom of conscience. And concerning Ahmad death ii would to you that ur claims are untrue for no other source xpct xtian websites and blogs support this claim ... Not even Wikipedia .. Zakir Naik a serial lier .... i except u say nothing less .. #thin don't let ppl think for you 1 Like |
Re: Roots In Paganism by parisbookaddict(f): 8:49pm On Aug 28, 2015 |
Hmajeed: Wow, so u posted a tonne of non muslims who allegedly had some nice things about mohammed. I just told u that is a silly thing to do. Why do u muslims keep fabricating theses things for example the atheist on your list , george bennard shaw A quote attributed to him, praising Prophet Muhammad as the "Savior of Humanity" who would have succeeded in solving all the world's problems if he "were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world", can be found posted all over the Internet. It has even been used by Muslims in a major "anti-Islamophobia" ad campaign in Australia. The reference provide for this quote is The Genuine Islam. However, according to the International Shaw Society treasurer Richard F Dietrich, who had compiled a complete list of Shaw's works, The Genuine Islam is "bogus".[2] No such book exists. The origin of this hoax is an interview between Shaw and Muslim propagandist Maulana Mohammed Abdul Aleem Siddiqui published in a Muslim periodical in January 1936. Rachel Baxendale of The Australian explained, "[The Muslim periodical] contains a quotation which describes Mohammed as the "saviour of humanity" and Islam as having "wonderful vitality" and "the chance to rule of Britain, nay Europe, in the next hundred years", but these are not recorded as the words of Shaw. The quotation appears in a separate quotation box without attribution, and not in the main body of the interview. However, the main body of the interview does feature Shaw challenging Siddiqui from a rationalist perspective." As with many of these fabrications, the truth is the opposite of what is claimed. The International Shaw Society treasurer pointed out that Shaw described the religion of Islam in a 1933 letter to the Rev. Ensor Walters in the following way: See what george bennard shaw actually thought of islam Islam is very different, being ferociously intolerant. What I may call Manifold Monotheism becomes in the minds of very simple folk an absurdly polytheistic idolatry, just as European peasants not only worship Saints and the Virgin as Gods, but will fight fanatically for their faith in the ugly little black doll who is the Virgin of their own Church against the black doll of the next village. When the Arabs had run this sort of idolatry to such extremes [that] they did this without black dolls and worshipped any stone that looked funny, Mahomet rose up at the risk of his life and insulted the stones shockingly, declaring that there is only one God, Allah, the glorious, the great… And there was to be no nonsense about toleration. You accepted Allah or you had your throat cut by someone who did accept him, and who went to Paradise for having sent you to Hell.[3] Reference Letter to the Reverend Ensor Walters (1933), as quoted in "Bernard Shaw : Collected Letters, 1926-1950" (1988) by Dan H. Laurence, p. 305 Why do u muslims like to lie and use al taqiyyah 1 Like |
Re: Roots In Paganism by Annunaki(m): 8:33am On Aug 29, 2015 |
@parisbookaddict did you edit the topic of this thread? |
Re: Roots In Paganism by mustymatic(m): 8:40am On Aug 29, 2015 |
bulldoza:parisbookaddict is the greatest hypocrite.... Worshipping Jesus is idolatry you dummy. . 1 Like |
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