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Re: / by Nobody: 3:40pm On Sep 01, 2015
jcross19:
use your brain that's judaism and not a christianity. Even upon all you put up there , there is no place they drink the blood or urine but your allah was lunatic to tell to be drinking camel urine ah ah what waste.
alright judaism in the bible, therefore christianity had it bases from judaism, hmm, cool cheesy

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Re: / by jcross19: 3:46pm On Sep 01, 2015
lexiconkabir:
i can honestly cope with your level of low reasoning, very low i.q. the scientists gave correct analysis only for the op to copy and paste wrong analysis.
from the analysis given by the scientist we deduce that 80 percent of koran were written before the birth of mohammad and before he started having the demonic revelations.

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Re: / by Nobody: 3:49pm On Sep 01, 2015
jcross19:
from the analysis given by the scientist we deduce that 80 percent of koran were written before the birth of mohammad and before he started having the demonic revelations.
kindly back up the bolded with a proof
Re: / by Demmzy15(m): 3:49pm On Sep 01, 2015
jcross19:
use your brain that's judaism and not a christianity. Even upon all you put up there , there is no place they drink the blood or urine but your allah was lunatic to tell to be drinking camel urine ah ah what waste.
You're beginning to pass your limits by being vulgar. Watch it! You and the Jews worship the same god, so whatever your god inspired or command applies to you. Think before you type! If I start with you don't call me your "brother" to calm me, i no go hear.

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Re: / by feedthenation(m): 3:52pm On Sep 01, 2015
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3216627/Koran-Birmingham-thought-oldest-world-predate-Prophet-Muhammad-scholars-say.html

HOW DID IT GET TO BIRMINGHAM?

The ancient pages were found bound alongside those of a younger copy of the Koran from the seventh century AD.

It is thought they had been put together because the Hijazi script on the parchment was similar.

They had been collected during the 1920s by a Chaldean priest called Alphonse Mingana who put together a huge collection of documents from the Middle East.

His expeditions to the Middle East were sponsored by Edward Cadbury, from the chocolate dynasty.

A special library was built at Selly Oak Colleges in Birmingham, a group of colleges set up by a group of Quakers led by George Cadbury.

When the colleges were merged with the University of Birmingham in the 1990s, the collection was brought under the care of the Cadbury Research Library at the university.

The fragments of the Koran then lay undiscovered until they were sent for radio carbon dating at the University of Oxford.


http://national.deseretnews.com/article/5711/is-the-worlds-oldest-quran-older-than-muhammad.html
Re: / by Annunaki(m): 3:53pm On Sep 01, 2015
Demmzy15:

You're beginning to pass your limits by being vulgar. Watch it! You and the Jews worship the same god, so whatever your god inspired or command applies to you. Think before you type! If I start with you don't call me your "brother" to calm me, i no go hear.

But your lying allah claims to be this same jewish god na, why are you islamist always so confused

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Re: / by jcross19: 3:55pm On Sep 01, 2015
Demmzy15:

You're beginning to pass your limits by being vulgar. Watch it! You and the Jews worship the same god, so whatever your god inspired or command applies to you. Think before you type! If I start with you don't call me your "brother" to calm me, i no go hear.
okay you and Buddhism are serving thesame god . Jesus never tell me to do that. By the way what can you offer? Who are you? All I can see sense is just a toothless barking dog. Like I have said allah is a poo and mohammad is the toilet( salanga)

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Re: / by tartar9(m): 4:07pm On Sep 01, 2015
jcross19:
use your brain that's judaism and not a christianity. Even upon all you put up there , there is no place they drink the blood or urine but your allah was lunatic to tell to be drinking camel urine ah ah what waste.
so your god was only stupïd in the old testament?
Re: / by Demmzy15(m): 4:58pm On Sep 01, 2015
jcross19:
okay you and Buddhism are serving thesame god . Jesus never tell me to do that. By the way what can you offer? Who are you? All I can see sense is just a toothless barking dog. Like I have said allah is a poo and mohammad is the toilet( salanga)
Say whatever you will sha be careful, I don't have your time now. My own be say; Jesus who's god according to you, commanded you to do African Voodoo(Atutu) so as to cure leprosy. Nasty god!

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Re: / by Demmzy15(m): 4:59pm On Sep 01, 2015
Annunaki:


But your lying allah claims to be this same jewish god na, why are you islamist always so confused
Ode! Always off point! sad

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Re: / by jcross19: 5:24pm On Sep 01, 2015
tartar9:
so your god was only stupïd in the old testament?
I can sense the stupidity of your allah in you so no quarm.
Re: / by proo212(m): 5:25pm On Sep 01, 2015
Again guys, this is a serious issue (eternal life and punishment)

Take a look at these videos


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TC8uJAADlZs?t=1s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLmyTofiPqs?t=1s

This man has been these same questions for years, not one scholar can refute these things. If there are, we haven't seen them come forward,. Even Islamic awareness.com cannot refute this
Re: / by Nobody: 5:59pm On Sep 01, 2015
.hmmm

Re: / by Annunaki(m): 6:01pm On Sep 01, 2015
proo212:
Again guys, this is a serious issue (eternal life and punishment)

Take a look at these videos




This man has been these same questions for years, not one scholar can refute these things. If there are, we haven't seen them come forward,. Even Islamic awareness.com cannot refute this

Summary please video is too long.
Re: / by tartar9(m): 6:17pm On Sep 01, 2015
jcross19:
in you so no quarm.
what are u saying
Re: / by proo212(m): 8:57pm On Sep 01, 2015
Annunaki:


Summary please video is too long.

Essentially, what we are saying is that the "Birmingham manuscript the muslims were so excited about has been dated to between 568-645AD. If you take the median date to run with, this would be 606AD 4 years before the revelations started coming. This does not look good. Meaning the prophet had nothing to do with the Quran.

None of the "6" manuscripts that exist for the Quran are complete. Most importantly they do not match the codified HAFS Quran that is in use today which was by the way codified in 1924 at Al-Azar University in Cairo.

If this is so (and it is), then Allah's word has been changed contrary to widely held assertions that the Quran is exactly the way it was revealed to the prophet.

There's more but you get the gist. These are historical and archaeological questions.

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Re: / by Nobody: 9:24pm On Sep 01, 2015
@proo212 (1) lets put it in mind that this test is not 100% accurate, there are bound to be errors, which implies that taking the median is no of issue................(2)in regard to the "6" manuscript, oh yes, it is what Allah said he will do, He said the quran will be revealed bit by bit, probably the ones seen, was written down in the incomplete revelation, they dont match the codified hafs in use today because computers are used to reproduce the quran not by human hand, for goodness sake how do you expect the human writing to be like a computer writing? and how does handwriting change a word? atleast the ones found at birmingham are exactly the same thing word for word with the quran of today!

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Re: / by proo212(m): 9:48pm On Sep 01, 2015
lexiconkabir:
@proo212 (1) lets put it in mind that this test is not 100% accurate, there are bound to be errors, which implies that taking the median is no of issue................(2)in regard to the "6" manuscript, oh yes, it is what Allah said he will do, He said the quran will be revealed bit by bit, probably the ones seen, was written down in the incomplete revelation, they dont match the codified hafs in use today because computers are used to reproduce the quran not by human hand, for goodness sake how do you expect the human writing to be like a computer writing? and how does handwriting change a word? atleast the ones found at birmingham are exactly the same thing word for word with the quran of today!

I think this perhaps is the worst attempt at refutation. We are not asking for hand writing and computer writing, can you read any of the manuscripts and the Quran and you find they are the same? According to the allegations here you cannot. Go and compare the corrupt bible and the manuscripts and tell me what differences you find.

Its safe to say the Quran we have today is NOT the literal word of Allah as dictated to Mohammed according to Islamic sources

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Re: / by Nobody: 9:56am On Sep 02, 2015
proo212:
I think this perhaps is the worst attempt at refutation.
your opinion is your right!
proo212:
We are not asking for hand writing and computer writing
the questions kindof suggested so
proo212:
can you read any of the manuscripts and the Quran and you find they are the same?
well, the arabic writing as at then was not as advanced as now, e.g ibrhm is now written as ibrahim, even in hebrew yhwh is now written as yahweh(reason it as it should be in arabic), the vowels were not this developed, this doesnt mean the original word was altered!
proo212:
According to the allegations here you cannot.
false allegations!
proo212:
Go and compare the corrupt bible and the manuscripts and tell me what differences you find
the insertion of 1john5:7. good morning!

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Re: / by Nobody: 10:03am On Sep 02, 2015
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Re: / by Nobody: 10:25am On Sep 02, 2015
proo212:

Its safe to say the Quran we have today is NOT the literal word of Allah as dictated to Mohammed according to Islamic sources
@underlined, i think we need to know these "islamic sources"
Re: / by Nobody: 10:24am On Sep 05, 2015
Below quote summed it all up for me:


Keith Small, of Oxford’s Bodleian Library, cautioned that carbon dating was done only on the Koran’s parchment and not its ink, but he said the dates were probably accurate.


My comment: Until carbon dating is done on the ink, and it shows an older date, then we can talk. It's highly possible that the parchment would have been in existence way before Muhammad was born. Even the ink. I bought a pen from the mall yesterday and the manufacture date was 2013. Does that mean the Sept. 5th, 2015 text I wrote on A4 paper manufactured 2012 if carbon dated would show 2012/2013 and you fools would tell me I wrote my text 2012/2013 when truthfully it was written Sept.5th, 2015? Use your brain mothafuckas! For the carbon dating despite its limitations to even be in the range of Muhammad's lifetime on earth shows that Islam and the Quran are forreal!
Re: / by neocortex: 8:01pm On Sep 23, 2015
Demmzy15:

Bro I tell you.. I was shocked sef, Paul told them to lie, it's in their blood. Too bad!

You are right at the bolded,
but Muihamed taught you taqqiya.
Now what's the difference between you two
who both fight for an imaginary god ?
Re: / by neocortex: 8:02pm On Sep 23, 2015
Demmzy15:

Didn't the camel urine cure the illness? Stupidity at its peak. Look at how your porn filled bible told us to cure leprosy!

"Get two birds. Kill one. Dip the live bird in the blood of the dead one. Sprinkle the blood on the leper seven times, and then let the blood-soaked bird fly away. Next find a lamb and kill it. Wipe some of its blood on the patient’s right ear, thumb, and big toe. Sprinkle seven times with oil and wipe some of the oil on his right ear, thumb and big toe. Repeat. Finally find another pair of birds. Kill one and dip the live bird in the dead bird’s blood. Wipe some blood on the patient’s right ear, thumb, and big toe. Sprinkle the house with blood 7 times."

– Leviticus 14:2-52

I can't imagine this kind of Medicine, sounds like African voodoo!

The same voodoo that muhamed used in justifying his campaign of terror,
I hope you become free someday.
Re: / by neocortex: 8:04pm On Sep 23, 2015
lexiconkabir:
alright judaism in the bible, therefore christianity had it bases from judaism, hmm, cool cheesy

And what is the bases of Islam other than the barbaric mosaic laws,viz-a-viz amputation , stoning adulterers to death etc.
What is new in Islam ?
Re: / by neocortex: 8:08pm On Sep 23, 2015
Demmzy15:

Say whatever you will sha be careful, I don't have your time now. My own be say; Jesus who's god according to you, commanded you to do African Voodoo(Atutu) so as to cure leprosy. Nasty god!

Shame on you,the same nasty god you bow down 5 times daily to,
If muhamad was alive , he would have had you beheaded for blasphemy.
Or don't you know the source of quran and islam ?
Re: / by Demmzy15(m): 8:10pm On Sep 23, 2015
neocortex:


You are right at the bolded,
but Muihamed taught you taqqiya.
Now what's the difference between you two
who both fight for an imaginary god ?
I'm challenging you to show me anywhere in the Qur'an/Sunnah where it's required for a Muslim to lie, remember that there are enough in your Bible.
neocortex:

The same voodoo that muhamed used in justifying his campaign of terror,
I hope you become free someday.
This actually dumb and stupid!
Re: / by Demmzy15(m): 8:13pm On Sep 23, 2015
neocortex:


[s]Shame on you,the same nasty god you bow down 5 times daily to,
If muhamad was alive , he would have had you beheaded for blasphemy.
Or don't you know the source of quran and islam ?[/s]
Guy what're you saying na? grin grin
Re: / by neocortex: 8:17pm On Sep 23, 2015
Demmzy15:

Guy what're you saying na? grin grin

Replying me means you go my message,
If muhamed could worship that jewish idol called yaweh/allah who are you
to tag the same god as "nasty" ?

Are you not afraid of landing in hell for your transgression ?
Re: / by Demmzy15(m): 8:35pm On Sep 23, 2015
neocortex:


Replying me means you go my message,
If muhamed could worship that jewish idol called yaweh/allah who are you
to tag the same god as "nasty" ?

Are you not afraid of landing in hell for your transgression ?
grin grin

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