Your opinion will be appreciated.

I will wait for the first few comments and add my own point of view.

Thanks.

I smell hypocrisy and conspiracy theories whilst conveniently ignoring the facts.

Annunaki:
I smell hypocrisy and conspiracy theories whilst conveniently ignoring the facts.

A simple question deserves an honest answer.

Where did you see them migrate,,

frosbel2:


A simple question deserves an honest answer.

I simply don't trust your motives, you have suddenly become a muslim apologist. I am even tempted to believe this is a cloned moniker cause the frosbel I knew way back on NL used to condemn islamic terrorism

frosbel2:
Your opinion will be appreciated.

I will wait for the first few comments and add my own point of view.

Thanks.

First, every human being, even after 1500 yrs of pretences, craves basic 21st century freedoms.
Islam tends to suffocate the basic freedoms of human beings, especially women.

That aside, the overwhelming reason is that Anglo - American geopolitics is directly and indirectly destroying the relative peacefullness of moderate middle east nations.
That is a fact.

The destruction of Iraq, Afganistan, Libya, Egypt, and now Syria, is causing an unprecedented movement of people out of the middle east into Europe and North America.

These are the expected blowbacks of the Obviously insane geopolitics of the Anglosphere.

You sow the Wind, you reap the wirlwind.

plaetton:


First, every human being, even after 1500 yrs of pretences, craves basic 21st century freedoms.
Islam tends to suffocate the basic freedoms of human beings, especially women.

That aside, the overwhelming reason is that Anglo - American geopolitics is directly and indirectly destroying the relative peacefullness of moderate middle east nations.
That is a fact.

The destruction of Iraq, Afganistan, Libya, Egypt, and now Syria, is causing an unprecedented movement of people out of the middle east into Europe and North America.

These are the expected blowbacks of the Obviously insane geopolitics of the Anglosphere.

You sow the Wind, you reap the wirlwind.

Agree with both points.

The west has given a platform to the radical elements of Islam who were subdued and brought under control by people like Assad, Ghaddafi and Saddam.

All these countries used to be mostly stable and peaceful till America started their silly games.

Oh, let's not forget that America is a Christian nation or something like that -

frosbel2:


Agree with both points.

The west has given a platform to the radical elements of Islam who were subdued and brought under control by people like Assad, Ghaddafi and Saddam.

All these countries used to be mostly stable and peaceful till America started their silly games.

Oh, let's not forget that America is a Christian nation or something like that -

you are bonga!!!!!. America , christian nation? You are a jihadist . That's what all muslims are saying that america is the boko haram, alquada , isis,taliban and they are the cause of the mayhem in their land . Islam=violence.

frosbel2:


Agree with both points.

The west has given a platform to the radical elements of Islam who were subdued and brought under control by people like Assad, Ghaddafi and Saddam.

All these countries used to be mostly stable and peaceful till America started their silly games.

Oh, let's not forget that America is a Christian nation or something like that -

And what did saudi arabia and Iran do during this silly games period?

Who did uae, quatar, saudi, egypt support during this period ?

jcross19:
you are bonga!!!!!. America , christian nation? You are a jihadist . That's what all muslims are saying that america is the boko haram, alquada , isis,taliban and they are the cause of the mayhem in their land . Islam=violence.

well , last time I checked America is predominantly Christian, or is it not ?


See below :

A majority of Americans report that religion plays a very important role in their lives, a proportion unique among developed countries. The majority of Americans identify themselves as Christians, while close to a quarter claim no religious affiliation.
Religion in the United States - Wikipedia, the free ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_the_United_States

Who bombed Iraq ?
Who Bombed Libya ?
Who bombed Afghanistan ?
Who bombed Somalia ?
Who supports covert operations in Iran, Syria , Egypt ?
Who is supporting the wicked Saudi Arabia regime to almost starve to death the Yemenis ?


My friend, engage you brain for once and stop following those deluded men you call MOG.

frosbel2:


well , last time I checked America is predominantly Christian, or is it not ?


See below :



Who bombed Iraq ?
Who Bombed Libya ?
Who bombed Afghanistan ?
Who bombed Somalia ?
Who supports covert operations in Iran, Syria , Egypt ?
Who is supporting the wicked Saudi Arabia regime to almost starve to death the Yemenis ?


My friend, engage you brain for once and stop following those deluded men you call MOG.

does that make them a christian country? Check your brain.

frosbel2:


well , last time I checked America is predominantly Christian, or is it not ?


See below :



Who bombed Iraq ?
Who Bombed Libya ?
Who bombed Afghanistan ?
Who bombed Somalia ?
Who supports covert operations in Iran, Syria , Egypt ?
Who is supporting the wicked Saudi Arabia regime to almost starve to death the Yemenis ?


My friend, engage you brain for once and stop following those deluded men you call MOG.

Wow, u have finally lowered ur reasoning to that of the average ignorant muslim on nairaland.

How is America a Christian nation, there are more non-muslims in the UAE, dubia, Qatar etc than muslims but yet they are clear Islamic nations so what's ur point??

America's constitution is secular though inspired by the Christians originally(which they have forgotten) but its policy makers are secular and a lot are apostates

Imagine barrack hussien obama(who claims to be a Christian) a siting US president encouraging homosexuality in Africa, this would have been unimaginable just 10years ago)

This is why in America things such as these are legal eg
Abortions
Homosexuality
Capital punishment(executions)
Even eugenics to a certain degree(go read up the experiments on syphilis carried out on blacks), the real aims of planned parenthood etc .

Are these tenets of Christianity??


All these are illegal in Vatican city, the closest thing earth has to a Christian nation. Don't forget Vatican city has its disturbing history, there is no such thing as a Christian nation, ours is not of this world.

As the crisis brews over Syrian refugees trying to enter European countries, questions have been raised over why they are not heading to wealthy Gulf states closer to home.

Although those fleeing the Syrian crisis have for several years been crossing into Lebanon, Jordan and Turkey in huge numbers, entering other Arab states - especially in the Gulf - is far less straightforward.

Officially, Syrians can apply for a tourist visa or work permit in order to enter a Gulf state.

But the process is costly, and there is a widespread perception that many Gulf states have unwritten restrictions in place that make it hard for Syrians to be granted a visa in practice.

Most successful cases are Syrians already in Gulf states extending their stays, or those entering because they have family there.

For those with limited means, there is the added matter of the sheer physical distance between Syria and the Gulf.

Not welcome?

This comes as part of wider obstacles facing Syrians, who are required to obtain rarely granted visas to enter almost all Arab countries.

Without a visa, Syrians are not currently allowed to enter Arab countries except for Algeria, Mauritania, Sudan and Yemen.

The relative wealth and proximity to Syria of the states has led many - in both social and as well as traditional media - to question whether these states have more of a duty than Europe towards Syrians suffering from over four years of conflict and the emergence of jihadist groups in the country.

The Arabic hashtag #Welcoming_Syria's_refugees_is_a_Gulf_duty has been used more than 33,000 times on Twitter in the past week.

Users have posted powerful images to illustrate the plight of Syrian refugees, with photos of people drowned at sea, children being carried over barbed wire, or families sleeping rough.

A Facebook page called The Syrian Community in Denmark has shared a video showing migrants being allowed to enter Austria from Hungary, prompting one user to ask: "How did we flee from the region of our Muslim brethren, which should take more responsibility for us than a country they describe as infidels?"

Another user replied: "I swear to the Almighty God, it's the Arabs who are the infidels."

'Let them in!'

The story has also attracted the attention of regional press and political actors.

The Saudi daily Makkah Newspaper published a cartoon - widely shared on social media - that showed a man in traditional Gulf clothing looking out of a door with barbed wire around it and pointing at door with the EU flag on it.

"Why don't you let them in, you discourteous people?!" he says.

The commander of the opposition Free Syrian Army (FSA), Riyad al-Asaad, retweeted an image of refugees posted by a former Kuwaiti MP, Faisal al-Muslim, who had added the comment: "Oh countries of the Gulf Cooperation Council, these are innocent people and I swear they are most deserving of billions in aid and donations."

But despite the appeals from social media, Gulf states' position seems unlikely to shift in favour of Syrian refugees.

In terms of employment, the trend in most Gulf states, such as Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the UAE is towards relying on migrant workers from South-East Asia and the Indian subcontinent, particularly for unskilled labour.

While non-Gulf Arabs do occupy positions in skilled mid-ranking jobs, for example in education and health, they are up against a "nationalisation" drive whereby the Saudi and Kuwaiti governments in particular are seeking to prioritise the employment of locals.

Non-native residents may also struggle to create stable lives in these countries as it is near impossible to gain nationality.

In 2012, Kuwait even announced an official strategy to reduce the number of foreign workers in the emirate by a million over 10 years

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-34132308


Well, so much for muslim brotherhood - other gulf states can't help their brothers, yet they are the first to tag the western countries 'infidels'.

^^^^

What you sow is what you reap.

The British and their cohorts destabilised the middle east and it is only logical that they should accept the spill over of refugees they caused.

It is disgraceful that so called Christians ( haha , what a joke ) condemn muslims for wanting to flee war conditions and settle in the most peaceful and safe parts of the world.

Further, it should be evident to the educated that not all Syrians want Sharia or a strict method of Islam, there are Sunnis, Shias, Alawites , Christians and many other tribes who have nothing to do with terrorism and these would rather stay in another country than extremist Saudi Arabia. For example , the Saudis are currently supporting a tyrant in Yemen to starve the innocent people to death while bombing them day and night.

Most Christians on Nairaland do not think, they do not analyse media information , they do not validate the utterances of their so called MOG. They simply follow grievous prejudices to condemn all Muslims no matter if they are against terror or not. This is very sick and is the stuff that Genocides are made of. It is called hate and no one who has hate in their hearts for any man will inherit the kingdom of God.

parisbookaddict:


Wow, u have finally lowered ur reasoning to that of the average ignorant muslim on nairaland.

How is America a Christian nation, there are more non-muslims in the UAE, dubia, Qatar etc than muslims but yet they are clear Islamic nations so what's ur point??

America's constitution is secular though inspired by the Christians originally(which they have forgotten) but its policy makers are secular and a lot are apostates

Imagine barrack hussien obama(who claims to be a Christian) a siting US president encouraging homosexuality in Africa, this would have been unimaginable just 10years ago)

This is why in America things such as these are legal eg
Abortions
Homosexuality
Capital punishment(executions)
Even eugenics to a certain degree(go read up the experiments on syphilis carried out on blacks), the real aims of planned parenthood etc .

Are these tenets of Christianity??


All these are illegal in Vatican city, the closest thing earth has to a Christian nation. Don't forget Vatican city has its disturbing history, there is no such thing as a Christian nation, ours is not of this world.

I'm sorry brother, but it is you with lower intelligence and reasoning. America IS a Christian Nation. They have a Bible-Belt where true christians exist in USA. Also, you should realize that the Vatican City and Rome in General has done many disgusting and degrading thing while masking behind christianity. "christian city on earth" Please, I laugh in spanish.

It seems very conveinient for muslim apologists to blame the western govts for everything that's happening in the middle east, when it suits them.

They have forgotten easily that the western govts took a large number of Somailians during the civil war in the 90s. How many Somailians did Saudi Arabia gave asylum to?

Yes, even if the western govts contributed to the civil war in Syria, why can't Saudi Arabia & other rich gulf states open their borders for the refugees to enter as stated in the bbc article?

Muslims are meant to be about brotherhood, helping those who are in serious need & not passing the blame on others.

Another issue is about integration. It is a known fact that muslims don't integrate well within any community they find themselves. Everyone to them is infidel, yet they are willing to trek hundreds of miles to get to western europe.

TheShopKeeper:
It seems very conveinient for muslim apologists to blame the western govts for everything that's happening in the middle east, when it suits them.

They have forgotten easily that the western govts took a large number of Somailians during the civil war in the 90s. How many Somailians did Saudi Arabia gave asylum to?

Yes, even if the western govts contributed to the civil war in Syria, why can't Saudi Arabia & other rich gulf states open their borders for the refugees to enter as stated in the bbc article?

Muslims are meant to be about brotherhood, helping those who are in serious need & not passing the blame on others.

Another issue is about integration. It is a known fact that muslims don't integrate well within any community they find themselves. Everyone to them is infidel, yet they are willing to trek hundreds of miles to get to western europe.

So according to your logic, because the 'Jew' ( in this case Muslim ) did not help his brothers, the Samaritan ( in this case we the Christians ) should also turn them down.

SMH.

Op lets remember one fact over 4 million Syrians are currently living in places like turkwy (1.9m) lebanon and jordan (2.1) and other ME countries host these refugees while under 250000 are migrating to Europe so this perspective is simply ignored by the indolent haters of Muslims and humanity.

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TheShopKeeper:
It seems very conveinient for muslim apologists to blame the western govts for everything that's happening in the middle east, when it suits them.

They have forgotten easily that the western govts took a large number of Somailians during the civil war in the 90s. How many Somailians did Saudi Arabia gave asylum to?

Yes, even if the western govts contributed to the civil war in Syria, why can't Saudi Arabia & other rich gulf states open their borders for the refugees to enter as stated in the bbc article?

Muslims are meant to be about brotherhood, helping those who are in serious need & not passing the blame on others.

Another issue is about integration. It is a known fact that muslims don't integrate well within any community they find themselves. Everyone to them is infidel, yet they are willing to trek hundreds of miles to get to western europe.

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Shut up! over 4m syrians are in turkey, lebanon and jordan. Thr bulk of refugees when your lazy self would never take time to research except read garbage from your masters who always dramatize the situation beyond the bounds of human decency.

vedaxcool:
This figure includes 2.1 million Syrians registered by UNHCR in Egypt, Iraq, Jordan and Lebanon, 1.9 million Syrians registered by the Government of Turkey, as well as more than 24,000 Syrian refugees registered in North Africa.

So why the irritating noise? Well like bush certain people prefer lies as the only means they can use to promote their wars and message of hate, Most Syrians live next door, while as the conflict worsen more Syrians are moving to Europe, the bulk over 4 million stay in neighboring ME countries and Turkey.

Annunaki:


I simply don't trust your motives, you have suddenly become a muslim apologist. I am even tempted to believe this is a cloned moniker cause the frosbel I knew way back on NL used to condemn islamic terrorism

He has learned that it's all gibberish n media propaganda

jcross19:
does that make them a christian country? Check your brain.

Wow..it's an Islamic nation ko

vedaxcool:
Op lets remember one fact over 4 million Syrians are currently living in places like turkwy (1.9m) lebanon and jordan (2.1) and other ME countries host these refugees while under 250000 are migrating to Europe so this perspective is simply ignored by the indolent haters of Muslims and humanity.

Bros stop lying to us. The countries you mentioned are only transit route for the migrants. Refugees in Turkey, lebanon, jordan do not stay there. Those countries only provide logistics for their transition to western europe.

Also note that the refugees are not only syrians, we have migrants from sudan, eritrea, algeria, morroc, egypt and other sharia-complaint countries steaming towards europe all claiming 'syrians'. As a matter of fact the syrian crisis is a great catalyst and opportunity for the islamic invasion of europe without gun, bomb or any military weapon.

This is not the first time muslims are invading europe. They had invaded europe before, militarily, and where soundly beaten (read the gate of vienna). The current invasion is a rather passive one as muslims are preying on europe sense of humanity and genorosity to technically invade their lands.

Why do you think saudi arabia, had to spent billions of dollars on concrete fence to avoid their land being invaded by their muslim brothers. Why do you think israel, bulgaria, hungary, the uk, are building high concrete fences to avoid muslim immigrants? The truth is that in the next two to three generations, muslims will surely increase in number and europe will certainly have an unrest that can only be comparred to the second world war experience and anti-semitism will surely grow in any country islam grows.

No sane nation will allow a large muslim migration. Non.

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true2god:
Bros stop lying to us. The countries you mentioned are only transit route for the migrants. Refugees in Turkey, lebanon, jordan do not stay there. Those countries only provide logistics for their transition to western europe.

Also note that the refugees are not only syrians, we have migrants from sudan, eritrea, algeria, morroc, egypt and other sharia-complaint countries steaming towards europe all claiming 'syrians'. As a matter of fact the syrian crisis is a great catalyst and opportunity for the islamic invasion of europe without gun, bomb or any military weapon.

This is not the first time muslims are invading europe. They had invaded europe before, militarily, and where soundly beaten (read the gate of vienna). The current invasion is a rather passive one as muslims are preying on europe sense of humanity and genorosity to technically invade their lands.

Why do you think saudi arabia, had to spent billions of dollars on concrete fence to avoid their land being invaded by their muslim brothers. Why do you think israel, bulgaria, hungary, the uk, are building high concrete fences to avoid muslim immigrants? The truth is that in the next two to three generations, muslims will surely increase in number and europe will certainly have an unrest that can only be comparred to the second world war experience and anti-semitism will surely grow in any country islam grows.

No sane nation will allow a large muslim migration. Non.

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http://data.unhcr.org/syrianrefugees/regional.php

I don't have time for ignoramus nonsense.

First of all I would not say muslims are migrating to the West in their hundreds, rather refugees from war torn countries.

The West started their destabilization of middle eastern countries in 2003 and as recently as today they are bombing Syria and supporting Saudi -led coalition in bombing Yemen. Libya was bombed to the stoneage with a promise of freedom. Rather than freedom ISIS came and the people have to go to those who promise freedom perhaps they can get the freedom there.

While majority of those fleeing now are muslims, a significant number of christians have fled since 2003.

NATO foreign policy is the main cause of this current migration chaos - war in South Sudan and Bokoharam invasion of northeast Nigeria has also led to people fleeing these regions.

Hollywood depiction of western world as mini paradise may have equally influenced alot of refugees fleeing to the west

Lastly, some people feel they are under bondage in the middle east (medieval laws) and they may have seized the opportunity to flee too - unfortunately there is hardly a free place left in the world.

mustymatic:

He has learned that it's all gibberish n media propaganda

So all the attrocities isis, boko haram and other islamic terror organisations are committing is now media propaganda You really need to get your head examined

Annunaki:


So all the attrocities isis, boko haram and other islamic terror organisations are committing is now media propaganda You really need to get your head examined

Let me add to this, so the killing of apostates (ex-muslims) by Iran and saudi arabia is a media propaganda. Muslims are wonderful people but not good liars.

Very sad that almost all Nigerian Christians have been totally brainwashed with western media propaganda. They are simply amplifiers for the lies being told by the same people who have caused widespread death and destruction worldwide.

Even Christian countries like Ukraine are not spared. Who started meddling into the Ukrainian affairs simply because the president at that time was pro-Russian and the USA and allies wanted a pro-western president who will join NATO instead. Who created the refugee crisis there ?

Think people , think.

Annunaki:


So all the attrocities isis, boko haram and other islamic terror organisations are committing is now media propaganda You really need to get your head examined

Whats my business with ISIS n boko?
Riyad us Saliheen (The Book of the Prohibited actions - 1551)
Abu Zaid Thabit bin Ad-Dahhak Al-Ansari (May Allah be pleased with him( (he is one of those who gave their pledge of allegiance to the Messenger of Allah (Sallallahu 'alaihi wa sallam) under the Tree) said: The Messenger of Allah (Sallallahu 'alaihi wa sallam) said, "He who swears by a religion other than that of Islam, is like what he has professed. He who kills himself with something, will be tormented with it on the Day of Resurrection..... ."[Al-Bukhari and Muslim].

Sahih Bukhari
Narrated Abu Huraira, The Prophet (pbuh) said, "Whoever purposely throws himself from a mountain and kills himself, will be in the (Hell) Fire falling down into it and abiding therein perpetually forever; and whoever drinks poison and kills himself with it, he will be carrying his poison in his hand and drinking it in the (Hell) Fire wherein he will abide eternally forever; and whoever kills himself with an iron weapon, will be carrying that weapon in his hand and stabbing his `Abdomen with it in the (Hell) Fire wherein he will abide eternally forever."

You need to get ur head checked. So where do isis get theirs? If you can't provide an Islamic hadith or quran source that encourages suicide then forget it

true2god:
Let me add to this, so the killing of apostates (ex-muslims) by Iran and saudi arabia is a media propaganda. Muslims are wonderful people but not good liars.

Pastors rape and feed women their sperm... it's Christianity

mustymatic:

Whats my business with ISIS n boko?
Riyad us Saliheen (The Book of the Prohibited actions - 1551)
Abu Zaid Thabit bin Ad-Dahhak Al-Ansari (May Allah be pleased with him( (he is one of those who gave their pledge of allegiance to the Messenger of Allah (Sallallahu 'alaihi wa sallam) under the Tree) said: The Messenger of Allah (Sallallahu 'alaihi wa sallam) said, "He who swears by a religion other than that of Islam, is like what he has professed. He who kills himself with something, will be tormented with it on the Day of Resurrection..... ."[Al-Bukhari and Muslim].

Sahih Bukhari
Narrated Abu Huraira, The Prophet (pbuh) said, "Whoever purposely throws himself from a mountain and kills himself, will be in the (Hell) Fire falling down into it and abiding therein perpetually forever; and whoever drinks poison and kills himself with it, he will be carrying his poison in his hand and drinking it in the (Hell) Fire wherein he will abide eternally forever; and whoever kills himself with an iron weapon, will be carrying that weapon in his hand and stabbing his `Abdomen with it in the (Hell) Fire wherein he will abide eternally forever."

You need to get ur head checked. So where do isis get theirs? If you can't provide an Islamic hadith or quran source that encourages suicide then forget it

Stop talking rubbish, do you know islam better than the isis leader who is an arab man with a phd in islamic studies Better stop this al taquiya nonsense, terrorism is an integral part of islam as established by your demonic 'prophet'

Annunaki:


Stop talking rubbish, do you know islam better than the isis leader who is an arab man with a phd in islamic studies Better stop this al taquiya nonsense, terrorism is an integral part of islam as established by your demonic 'prophet'

Do you have more knowledge than pastors? Well...they rape underaged girls n women, sleep with women n giv their sperms to drink, n they have the holy spirit to bak them up, they also give hairs to their members to eat, also worship naked in some churches across the world
So if he studies Islamic studies n a phd he's better by what? When hes not following Allah and his messenger

^^^Dont derail this thread guys. I know our christian brethren, especially Nigerian ones are hypocrites. See what parrisbookaddict said about homosexual etc. She's now saying US is not a christian nation bcus they permit homosexual. On other thread some weeks and months ago, in other to vilify islam, she opened a thread or commented on a thread about how islam is so hateful towards gays/lesbians. Parrisbookaddict a k a ifeann is very unstable.

Anyways, enjoy these pix.