OLAADEGBU:


The answer is obvious. Next question:

2. "Islam means peace," doesn't mean what you think it means.

The word Islam actually means "submission," but when Muslims claim that Islam is all about peace, they wholly believe what they're saying is true — but not in the way most of us think of peace. There are 109 verses that command violence against unbelievers in order to spread Islam, but the peace Muslims are talking about is believed to happen only after Islam conquers the world. Muslims believe that as long as there are unbelievers who refuse to submit to Islam, there cannot be peace. This is called Dar al-Harb, or "house of war." Through war, subjugation, and implementing world Sharia law, Muslims are promised that they will accomplish Dar al-Salam, or "house of peace." So, when Muslims claim that Islam means peace, what they really mean is that if the world's unbelievers would simply convert, die, or submit to living under Sharia, there would be world peace.

Can this be true?

OLAADEGBU:


3. "Those violent scriptures only apply during times of war." So, when is Islam at war?

As is stated in number 2, until a single Caliphate establishes Sharia law over the entire world, it is Dar al-Harb. This means that Muslims are and always have been at war with unbelievers, simply because the Qur'an states that those who refuse to submit are at war with Allah. This means that all those nasty scriptures that call for Muslims to "smite at their necks" and "slay the unbelievers" are in effect as we speak.

Annunaki:


very good observation, they think they can fool us with their alt taquiya Religion.

OLAADEGBU:


3. "Those violent scriptures only apply during times of war." So, when is Islam at war?

As is stated in number 2, until a single Caliphate establishes Sharia law over the entire world, it is Dar al-Harb. This means that Muslims are and always have been at war with unbelievers, simply because the Qur'an states that those who refuse to submit are at war with Allah. This means that all those nasty scriptures that call for Muslims to "smite at their necks" and "slay the unbelievers" are in effect as we speak.

SirWere:
I am a Christian. I just believe every1 should serve their religion in peace

OLAADEGBU:


4. Muslims are allowed to lie in order to spread Islam, even denying their own faith.

Prophet Muhammad said that "war is deceit," and Muslims have used deception ever since then to conquer and enslave. There are several instances throughout the Qur'an and Hadith in which Muhammad lied in order to slaughter his enemies, and even those with whom he held treaties. Muhammad taught his men to gain the trust of unbelievers in order to infiltrate their communities and overpower them. Through taqiyya, Muslims are allowed to use any type of deception at their discretion, even going as far as pretending to be an unbeliever in order to save their skin or further Islam. Perhaps this is the reason that Muslims are widely the victims of Islamic violence. It's hard to tell who is the enemy when you're allowed to emulate them.

Obama is a typical case that describes the sentence bolded above.

OLAADEGBU:


5. Sorry atheists, Christians and Jews are the only minorities allowed to live under Sharia law.

As hellish of an existence it is to live under Sharia law, the "people of the book" are still allowed to live under Sharia law as long as they pay jizya and "feel themselves subdued." This Quranic rule was implemented because Muhammad found that conquest could only bring in so much wealth. Understanding that Muslim invaders needed the innovations and labour of others, Allah made it so that his people could profit from Christians and Jews under their rule. However, atheists, Buddhists, Hindus, and any other religious minority are not given the choice of paying burdensome jizya under Islamic law. Instead, they are to be slain or forcibly converted. There's no other option.

OLAADEGBU:


6. Muslims are forbidden from being your friend.

Although apologists claim it's "islamophobic" to say that you can't trust Muslims, the Qur'an is clear on how Muslims are to treat non-Muslims. Quran 5:80 states clearly that Muslims who truly befriend non-Muslims are considered infidels, and they will reside in hell with them. In short, if you want to be friends with unbelievers, you lost your salvation. So, why do Muslim sometimes cavort with non-Muslims? This all points back to taqiyya. In countries that went from democratic nations to Islamic states, non-Muslim civilians are shocked when their kind Muslim neighbours betray their friendship when the jihadists take over, selling them out as soon as they became the majority. Of course, there are certainly westernized Muslims who have non-Muslim friends, but like Allah says, you shouldn't even consider them Islamic, for they have forfeited their souls to hell.

OLAADEGBU:


7. The vast majority of Muslims are, in fact, terrorists or supporters of terrorism.

Just because the majority isn't sawing the heads off of Christians doesn't mean they don't support it. Sharia law is an implementation of the terrorist laws enforced by the warlord Muhammad, and as such, over 50 Muslim countries are governed by terror. In Pakistan, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, and Saudi Arabia, people are legally executed for blasphemy. In Egypt, Indonesia, Palestine, Sudan, Brunei, Qatar, and Morocco, Christian churches are torched, and members are martyred for their beliefs. In Iran, Yemen, Iraq, Mauritania, Somalia, and the UAE, homosexuality is punishable by death. Even in "moderate" Muslim nations, the same sentences issued by ISIS are part of the same legal system — Sharia law. Even as a growing minority, Muslims quickly become violent and demanding in their host nation, until they are powerful enough to overtake and implement the same Sharia law in the countries they fled. Still, any Muslim who reveres the Qur'an supports the terror it commands. If the majority of Muslims are against terrorism, why do they demand and implement a terrorist state in every nation they populate?

OLAADEGBU:


8. Islamic violence has nothing to do with culture.

Although many Muslims have been "westernized" and are adopting certain un-Islamic habits, the claim that Muslims in the Middle East are victims of a backwards culture is unfounded. If this was the case, Assyrian Christians, Messianic Jews, Yezidis, Hindus, and atheist apostates would be beheading, enslaving, raping, and conquering exactly like their Muslim neighbours. But they're not. Instead, these minorities are being led like lambs to their slaughter because of Islamic legislation consistant in every Muslim country. In the birthplace of Islam, Muslims haven't changed much since the time of their prophet 1,400 years ago.

OLAADEGBU:


9. Muslim don't have to conquer by the sword.

As successful as Muhammad was at butchering peaceful tribes and stealing their wealth and women, he proved that there are other ways to force nations to submit to Islam. Muhammad called his people to overtake through hijrah, or Islamic immigration. Either by migrating legally, illegally, or as refugees, Muslims can easily overwhelm an accepting, tolerant Western nation. Not only that, but out-populating, forcing conversion, and encouraging conversion play a major role in creating a Sharia state. Muslims are called to marry Western women and spread Islam through the fruit of their wombs. With growing generations of Muslims, a nation is much more easily swayed to adopt Sharia law. Of course, if this doesn't work, there is always Islamic violence.

trapQ:
In the world today, which group of people aren't allowed to serve their religion in peace?? Answer: CHRISTIANS.

there's a death penalty for Muslim to Christian apostates in most Islamic countries, but there's no single Christian country that does that. So reevaluate your thinking.

OLAADEGBU:


Don't be surprised that they've deceived most of these blind secular countries and media houses into believing their so called al taqqiya.

IAYUSUF:


Let us look at Deuteronomy 13:6-9 "If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying: Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other, or gods of other religions), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity . Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death . Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people."
Note: the new testament never abolished this in a clear verse

There is punishment in Islam for some apostate but it has a legal context that will take pages to explain.

trapQ:
I asked a simple question which you failed to answer. I repeat, name one Christian country that passes the death penalty for apostasy.

Now to answer you, when Jesus Christ died, those laws were abolished. you can read Matthew 5:38-43.
Those Abrahamic laws are dead and gone.

Jesus never fought nor killed anybody, your Mohammed did. he beheaded and killed thousands. A Christian is someone who is Christ like. we are not permitted to do things that don't glorify God because every unrighteousness is sin.

besides, did you miss the part of the ten commandments where GOD said "thou shall not kill"??.

IAYUSUF:


The original post is large with contradictions. And conflicting ideas. And no quote from any Islamic sources. Simply it is your view of Islam and not necessarily true

IAYUSUF:


The original post is large with contradictions. And conflicting ideas. And no quote from any Islamic sources. Simply it is your view of Islam and not necessarily true

1. Islam is not just a religion but a complete way of life. It is also a state. The state uses the Sharia. It's the law that God gave to Muslims to government with. But we are told to follow the laws of the land we live in. We hate in our hearts any evil that is allowed in the land like Adultery and others.

IAYUSUF:


3. Your point number 3 is your view and not Islamic view. You didn't site any source. The prophet stated clearly in a Sahih hadeeth

Abdullah ibn Abu Awfa reported: On the day the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, faced the enemy in battle, he waited until the sun had declined and then he stood in front of the people and the Prophet said, “ O people, do not desire to meet the enemy but rather ask Allah for security. If you meet your enemy in battle, then be patient and know that Paradise is under the shade of swords.” Then the Prophet said, “O Allah, the revealer of the Book, the mover of the clouds, the defeater of the confederates! Defeat the unbelievers and grant us victory.”
Source: Sahih Bukhari 2861
Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Al-Bukhari

This hadeeth invalidate the whole claim of the post

3. "Those violent scriptures only apply during times of war." So, when is Islam at war?

As is stated in number 2, until a single Caliphate establishes Sharia law over the entire world, it is Dar al-Harb. This means that Muslims are and always have been at war with unbelievers, simply because the Qur'an states that those who refuse to submit are at war with Allah. This means that all those nasty scriptures that call for Muslims to "smite at their necks" and "slay the unbelievers" are in effect as we speak.

OLAADEGBU:


Men of peace continued...

IAYUSUF:


The original post is large with contradictions. And conflicting ideas. And no quote from any Islamic sources. Simply it is your view of Islam and not necessarily true
1. Islam is not just a religion but a complete way of life. It is also a state. The state uses the Sharia. It's the law that God gave to Muslims to government with. But we are told to follow the laws of the land we live in. We hate in our hearts any evil that is allowed in the land like Adultery and others.

2. Islam means peace acquired through the submission to the Creator. There are maybe 109 verse that talks about contest of War with Kafir or Transgressors but there is a total of 6000 verses in the Quran. None of the verses when taking in context historically calls for open violence. Getting arabic words doesn't prove anything " Dar al-Harb" it doesn't appear in the Quran.
There is a very simple clear verse in the Quran that states the context of the verses on war.

60:8
SAHIH INTERNATIONAL
Allah does not forbid you from those who do not fight you because of religion and do not expel you from your homes - from being righteous toward them and acting justly toward them. Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly.

3. Your point number 3 is your view and not Islamic view. You didn't site any source. The prophet stated clearly in a Sahih hadeeth

Abdullah ibn Abu Awfa reported: On the day the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, faced the enemy in battle, he waited until the sun had declined and then he stood in front of the people and the Prophet said, “ O people, do not desire to meet the enemy but rather ask Allah for security. If you meet your enemy in battle, then be patient and know that Paradise is under the shade of swords.” Then the Prophet said, “O Allah, the revealer of the Book, the mover of the clouds, the defeater of the confederates! Defeat the unbelievers and grant us victory.”
Source: Sahih Bukhari 2861
Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Al-Bukhari

This hadeeth invalidate the whole claim of the post

4. Again you sited no prove. There isn't a place that allows lying in Islam except in the following conditions

1. To make peace between two friends to avoid feud (or bloodshed)
2. To make your spouse happy
3. In war, to get the upper hand against the enemy.
4. When one is persecuted, he can say things which may not be true
5. To make someone escape torture from a tyrant, to avoid handing over an innocent person to an oppressor.

The Bible accept lying in the following
– Lying in order to save innocent lives from being killed
– Using deception in war so as to get the upper hand
– Lying in order to conceal your motives
– Lying so one can escape persecution
– Deceiving so you don’t get harmed
– Advancing the Christian faith by means of deception

Evidence
1. Exodus 1:15-22 – Midwives
2. Exodus 3:22 – YHWH & Israelites
3. Joshua 2:2-7 – Rahab
4. 2 Kings 6:18-20 – Elisha & YHWH
5. Judges 4:9 – Jael
6. 2 Samuel 17:17-20 – Spy
7. 1 Samuel 16:1-3 – Samuel & YHWH
8. 1 Kings 22:20-22 – Spirit & YHWH
9. 1 Samuel 19:11-17 – Michal
10. 1 Samuel 21:1-3 – David
11. 1 Samuel 27:10 – David
New Testament:
12. John 7:8-10 – Jesus
13. Mark 14:66:71 – Peter
14. 1 Corinthians 9:19-23 – Paul
Many past pastors support this. I will quote in other comments

5. Non-Muslims under Islamic laws have to pay Jizya(tax) which should be burdensome. Women, children and weak adults aren't to pay it. It's use to develop non Muslims community. Muslim are to pay Zakah, Zakatul fitr, they are to defend the community. The non-Muslims are excused from Jizya if they join the Military and defend the community. Read this article for prove of what I just said www.answering-christianity.com/jizyah.htm


6. Muslim aren't forbidden from being kind and just to non Muslims. That's friendship.
60:8
SAHIH INTERNATIONAL
Allah does not forbid you from those who do not fight you because of religion and do not expel you from your homes - from being righteous toward them and acting justly toward them. Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly.

The Qur’an tells us people we can't befriend in the next verse
9. It is only as regards those who fought against you on account of religion, and have driven you out of your homes, and helped to drive you out, that Allâh forbids you to befriend them. And whosoever will befriend them, then such are the Zâlimûn(wrong-doers those who disobey Allâh).
The Bible also doesn't allow you to befriend non-Christians
"Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?" (2 Corinthians 6:14 ).

7. You have concluded that the Sharia is terrorism and that is problematic. Most of the countries mentioned are Muslim countries but don't follow Sharia really. Anyways, I support and love the Sharia does that make me terrorist. The real Sharia and not what you call Sharia. The Sharia is a wide set of laws and you have no schooling on it. Get enlightened.

8. My question to you is Saudi Arabia rules with Sharia, why isn't it in war with the West. Or they being "UNISLAMIC" as you say.
Malaysia and Indonesia have the largest number of Muslims. Why aren't they fighting and killing non Muslims are they Un Islamic. Again Muslims are more than 25% of world population then we should actually be in total war if the Quran calls for violence.

9. Point 9 again is your view without prove. I can say the uprising in Syria is caused by Israel to break the Islamic nations but I personally have no prove to that as your points also don't have prove or citations. Which originally disprove the whole claim.

10. Point 10 shows the aim of the whole article. Try to demonize Islam with circular arguments. And get to capitalize on Muslims ignorant of Islam. But it won't work. This propaganda increases the number of reverts to Islam because people get to read the Quran and see something entirely different from what you painted. Keep it up.

I pray for the Guidance of the Creator on us all
Allahu alam

OLAADEGBU:


10. There is still hope for Muslims.

Muslims are leaving Islam in droves, all thanks to the brutal propaganda of groups like ISIS. Many apostates claim the moment they left Islam was when they found out what is in their Qur'an and Hadith. Many Muslims in Islamic countries are illiterate or uneducated. They do not own Qur'ans and rely on their imams to spoon-feed them information about their god and prophet. However, with the brutality committed by ISIS matched up with justifying scriptures, Muslims are finding that their religion is deeply flawed. Freedom and love are powerful ideals, so powerful that it is empowering Islamists to risk life and limb to leave their ideology behind. The more we spread this information, the more likely Muslims are to open their eyes to the warring, paedophile prophet they are called to model.

http://madworldnews.com/10-things-muslims-infidels/

SirWere:
You are obviously a religious fanatic who use any method to destroy Islam. I am Christian but believe me, 90, in fact 95 percent of Christians dont have a fig of the faith Muslims have. I also disagree with some of the things you wrote. @Number 3, It is obvious that you didnt do any research because if you did, you would know that Islam and the old testament were written roughly at the same time, the David era where there was so so many wars being fought. An interesting diversions: Christianity also did things that would be considered as Terrorism in modern day. I cite Saul's example. He was told to "destroy the ammorites, kill every one including the women and children, and all livestock". I could go on but i think you get the gist. I have so many other things I can say but I have to use my time for more important things.
Conclusion- Let everyone serve their religion in peace

faith in what exactly? 70 virgins if u commit suicide killing u and people who use their freedom of choice to decide against the Islamic faith?


Op has done nothing but expound on what the Islamic faith means when it speaks

SirWere:
Thank you. I accept I'm immatured, if immaturity is defined as promoting religious tolerance

faith in what exactly? 70 virgins if u commit suicide killing u and people who use their freedom of choice to decide against the Islamic faith?


Op has done nothing but expound on what the Islamic faith means when it speaks