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Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by Nobody: 4:58pm On Sep 28, 2015 |
basilico:its obvious u guys arent trying to conduct ur debate sebsibly. So i wobt be replying cos i dont want to argue heatedly. ny religion discourages that |
Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by Rilwon: 4:58pm On Sep 28, 2015 |
truthman2012: Never knew you are now a hunter creating threads that will hunt people..LWKM 1 Like |
Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by Nobody: 5:02pm On Sep 28, 2015 |
Rilwon:u better not let dem dash u high bp from theirs. I also thought they were trying to learn at first but turns out they only meant trouble in the first instance 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by Rilwon: 5:08pm On Sep 28, 2015 |
enieme: loooool.. both the old jobless man (lieman) and his illiterat friend (malvis) are my shildren I can't just abandon them like that. You've done your best bro, leave them to wallow in their ignorance |
Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by Nobody: 5:10pm On Sep 28, 2015 |
Rilwon:im not a bro o. 1 Like |
Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by Rilwon: 5:14pm On Sep 28, 2015 |
enieme: I'm very sorry o my sister. I used to think that every member without the (f) notification on their moniker is a bro o. I am sorry, you hear. Thank you. |
Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by Nobody: 5:17pm On Sep 28, 2015 |
Rilwon:hehe , no probs. 2 Likes |
Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by Rilwon: 5:19pm On Sep 28, 2015 |
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Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by truthman2012(m): 5:36pm On Sep 28, 2015 |
Rilwon: Na wa for you o! So merely telling his own family not to associate partners with allahh is a REVELATION? Which people of his time did he tell not to associate partners except his own family and relatives as we see here: And he used to enjoin on his family and his people As-Salat (the prayers) and the Zakat, and his Lord was pleased with him."Quran 19:55 So as you tell your family not to associate partners with allahh is a revelation allahh sent to you? It means every muslim is a prophet provided they tell their family not to associate partners with allahh. Allah spoke to Abraham as a prophet. He spoke directly to Moses as a prophet. He spoke to Muhammad as his prophet. What I am asking is: where did he speak specifically to Ishmael as a prophet, what was the message and to which people? Please attack proof. |
Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by truthman2012(m): 5:43pm On Sep 28, 2015 |
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Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by truthman2012(m): 5:45pm On Sep 28, 2015 |
Rilwon: I am a hunter of the Devil wanting to snatch his captives. So am indirectly hunting you muslim (satan's captives) to snatch you from his severe claws. 1 Like |
Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by truthman2012(m): 5:51pm On Sep 28, 2015 |
enieme: Which trouble? Tell us where we can find revelations allahh said he gave to Ishmael means trouble because the claim is a lie? |
Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by truthman2012(m): 6:05pm On Sep 28, 2015 |
Rilwon: Nonsense! When I post am jobless. When I didn't have time to post I went to hideout. You must be out of your mind. 1 Like |
Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by Rilwon: 6:17pm On Sep 28, 2015 |
truthman2012: Yes, Moses and Jesus was sent with the same message. Read Deut 6:4 and Mark 12: 29 Which people of his time did he tell not to associate partners except his own family and relatives as we see here:And he used to enjoin on his family and his people As-Salat (the prayers) and the Zakat, and his Lord was pleased with him."Quran 19:55 Thank you for providing the verse, the bolded tells it all. So as you tell your family not to associate partners with allahh is a revelation allahh sent to you? Yes, if my family were not aware of the beautiful message before, and i happened to received the message from God through revelation to enlighten them about who God is; is no doubt a revelation. That exactly is the case of Ismael. Allah spoke to Abraham as a prophet. The question you should be asking is that, what was the bone of contention i.e. the most important message he spoke and expected them to carry out. What I am asking is: where did he speak specifically to Ishmael as a prophet, what was the message and to which people? Please attack proof. This question doesn't make sense. Try again. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by Rilwon: 6:25pm On Sep 28, 2015 |
truthman2012: lool. You made a mistake. Satan and his agents cant come near me. He can only come to the church by dividing them into 440000sects. |
Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by Rilwon: 6:29pm On Sep 28, 2015 |
truthman2012: When you post you are not jobless. But when you post simulteneously on monday which is the first week of resumption after 4days holiday, makes me feel you don't have a job. Because if you see how people are trooping in mass to their workplace this morning.. dayummmn! you as an oldman will even be ashamed to sit at home. Do you really have a job?? I'll like to know sir 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by Rilwon: 6:31pm On Sep 28, 2015 |
truthman2012: The revelation is everywhere. Believe in God and associate no partner with him. fàkatì |
Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by truthman2012(m): 6:40pm On Sep 28, 2015 |
Rilwon: So old men also join trooping to workplace? Seriously, you are out of your mind. Those who work hard in their old age are those who played when they were youths. Should I pray for you that you will have reason to work hard till your old age when you are supposed to be resting? |
Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by Rilwon: 6:49pm On Sep 28, 2015 |
truthman2012: Well, the President is 72 years old. And if he had happened to be in Nigeria today, he would've joined the trooping to his office in Aso rock. Are you older than him? |
Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by truthman2012(m): 6:55pm On Sep 28, 2015 |
Rilwon: Allah claimed he spoke to Abraham and we have many verses to turn to. He claimed he spoke to Moses, there are many references. You claim he spoke to Muhammad, the whole quran is clear on that. Where did he speak to Ishmael as a prophet? Nowhere!!! Allahh is a liar, Ishmael did not receive any revelations as claimed by him. |
Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by truthman2012(m): 7:00pm On Sep 28, 2015 |
Rilwon: Do you know the meaning of the word ''trooping''? Does a president troop to office? I wonder what will become of you brain when you are a little older. No wonder your defences do not tally with good reasoning. 1 Like |
Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by Rilwon: 7:14pm On Sep 28, 2015 |
truthman2012: Wow! so you can turn to verses to substantiate Abraham but you cant do the same for Ismael? Thought pu quoted Quran 19:55 the other time? What revelation did Abraham receive? He claimed he spoke to Moses, there are many references. You claim he spoke to Muhammad, the whole quran is clear on that. Issorite! Where did he speak to Ishmael as a prophet? Nowhere!!! I don't get you here. You don't expect the record of where God spoke to every prophet sent by him. You've already been shown that thousands of prohet was sent by him, where he spoke to them is not the bone of contention if not the message spoken to them. Quran 19:55 as you rightly quoted the other time attest to the fact that he delivered God's message to his fsmily and his people. What nonsense are you asking me again Allahh is a liar, Ishmael did not receive any revelations as claimed by him. Please define the word 'REVELATION'.. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by Rilwon: 7:24pm On Sep 28, 2015 |
truthman2012: intr.v. trooped, troop·ing , To move or go as a group or in large numbers: . http://www.thefreedictionary.com/trooping The President doesn't go all alone to his office, does he? I wonder what will become of you brain when you are a little older. No wonder your defences do not tally with good reasoning. 1 Like |
Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by truthman2012(m): 7:55pm On Sep 28, 2015 |
Rilwon: The president goes in a convoy of cars to office and not as a troop. Trooping mean moving on legs. Understand? |
Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by truthman2012(m): 8:15pm On Sep 28, 2015 |
Rilwon: Okay, I now understand your problem. You do not know what revelation is. Revelation means God talking to man audibly or by dream or by inspiration, just as Muhammad heard Gabriel speak to him. When and where did that happen to Ishmael and what was the message? |
Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by jcross19: 8:25pm On Sep 28, 2015 |
I laugh in arabian ahhahhahhah no any reasonable answers from islamic scholars on board well they cant get the answer when allah cant even get straight answer but confuse. Allah you are confused . 2 Likes |
Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by Rilwon: 8:33pm On Sep 28, 2015 |
truthman2012: I know what it means.. But wait, why didnt you address the other post? Kindly refer back to the post please.. Revelation means God talking to man audibly or by dream or by inspiration, just as Muhammad heard Gabriel speak to him. I have been repeating my explanation to you repeated question. Please dont let enieme mock me. She already warned me that you will waste my time, but being the fact that you are my child I am not ready to leave you just like that. rev- e- la- tion 1. 2. [rev- uh -ley -sh uh n] noun the act of revealing or disclosing; disclosure. something revealed or disclosed, especially a striking disclosure, as of something not before realized. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/revelation In other words, God revealed many disclosure that are not before realized to people that are not even Prophets. When and where did that happen to Ishmael and what was the message? When it happened is best known to God. Where it happened is not the bone of contention.. The bone of contention is what the message was which is to believe in God and not to have partners beside him. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by Rilwon: 8:40pm On Sep 28, 2015 |
jcross19: 2 Chronicles 13:22 And the rest of the acts of Abijah, and his ways, and his sayings, are written in the story of the prophet Iddo. Can you tell us where the story Prophet Iddo is? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by Nobody: 8:50pm On Sep 28, 2015 |
Rilwon:i dont think ill be disappointed. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by Rilwon: 8:56pm On Sep 28, 2015 |
enieme:Alright ma'am. |
Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by Demmzy15(m): 9:00pm On Sep 28, 2015 |
jcross19:Gerrout jor illiterate boy! Better go and cure your leprosy! |
Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by Nobody: 9:08pm On Sep 28, 2015 |
Rilwon:althogh id advise that u do less of argeing as u may sometimes make insulting posts or touch controversial areas that may even refer backbto d religion u profess. example is ur thread on a "suya loving God". the purpose is to argue with reason nd hope to change view, not to insult, hate or show flawsvs one'superiority 1 Like 1 Share |
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