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Re: Islam And The Meccans' Religions Before It by macof(m): 4:11pm On Oct 07, 2015 |
Look, christianity caused islam. Arabs were part of the roman realm and when romans created christianity, some prominent arabs were converted Mohammed was exposed to christianity and it's idea of a single God even tho his family believed in many Gods. ..the christian arabs called Jehova by the name "allah" meaning "The God" just like yoruba christian call Jehova "Olorun" but allah is just a title that applies to any idea of God from any religion on Arabic language Just like in Yorubaland before christianity Olorun is a Pagan God (stil is) but they were not smart enough to invent a word to call their new god 1 Like |
Re: Islam And The Meccans' Religions Before It by Nobody: 4:47pm On Oct 07, 2015 |
macof:Arabic is a different language from English(English is inconsistent), example of these differences, when i say "nahnu kabir wa macuf wa dimmzy wa Ridwan" it means, "we are kabir, macof, demmzy and Ridwan. note:- "wa" = "and" if we are to translate it accordingly, it would be "we are kabir and macof and demmzy and Ridwan" which is wrong in English Language(i hope you get what i'm trying to say). The nearest translation of Allah in English is God. any "god" in arabic is "ilah" not "Allah" 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Islam And The Meccans' Religions Before It by truthman2012(m): 6:02pm On Oct 07, 2015 |
true2god: Referring to your last paragraph, ironically, allahh said Muhammad is a mercy to the world when we could all see he tried to destroy it, which his followers are following up today. 1 Like |
Re: Islam And The Meccans' Religions Before It by truthman2012(m): 6:07pm On Oct 07, 2015 |
Hello everyone. No muslim has been able to answer my question: Why is pagan worship COMPATIBLE with islamic worship as evident in the quran and hadiths? cc: Rilwayne, Rilwon 2 Likes |
Re: Islam And The Meccans' Religions Before It by macof(m): 7:37pm On Oct 07, 2015 |
lexiconkabir: Mr man. Al - is an article TThis is one word of noun and article not a sentence |
Re: Islam And The Meccans' Religions Before It by Nobody: 7:43pm On Oct 07, 2015 |
macof:which was why i started with, "Arabic is a different language from English", when translating, we give the nearest in meaning. |
Re: Islam And The Meccans' Religions Before It by truthman2012(m): 7:52pm On Oct 07, 2015 |
BABAAGBALABA: Nonsense!!! |
Re: Islam And The Meccans' Religions Before It by macof(m): 8:08pm On Oct 07, 2015 |
lexiconkabir: You just trying to run around the fact that "allah" is a noun and a definite article like "the girl" or " the king" which could refer to any girl or king 1 Like |
Re: Islam And The Meccans' Religions Before It by Nobody: 8:14pm On Oct 07, 2015 |
macof:alriht, suit yourself, you understand arabic more than i do. |
Re: Islam And The Meccans' Religions Before It by Demmzy15(m): 9:32pm On Oct 07, 2015 |
true2god: |
Re: Islam And The Meccans' Religions Before It by maverickboy: 10:54pm On Oct 07, 2015 |
lexiconkabir:I must tell u, macof is not the type u can waste ur time on trying to explain things to. He'd know somethings, yet, he'd act not knowing when he deems fit. |
Re: Islam And The Meccans' Religions Before It by Nobody: 5:37am On Oct 08, 2015 |
truthman2012 you noticed that i ignored you, hence you added the below, which i'm about to reply, you are really a shameless oldman truthman2012: For virginity test, it is a matter of common sense, mothers must have deviced a way of doing that.tell us this "way" other than fingerin.g a.k.a digital deflowering, note:the fathers does this, not the mothers. They were unlike Muhammad who was fingerin.g Aisha at the age of six. Disgusting!truthman2012, when will you stop this shameless act of lying? is this what you teach your children at home? to be lying at all times? |
Re: Islam And The Meccans' Religions Before It by Nobody: 6:11am On Oct 08, 2015 |
maverickboy:yeah i noticed, which was why i left him to his ignoramus status. |
Re: Islam And The Meccans' Religions Before It by truthman2012(m): 9:48am On Oct 08, 2015 |
lexiconkabir: You didn't ignore me, you didn't have anything to say. Does the bible tell you it is the fathers that must do virginity test? No prophets f.ondle women but only Muhammad: Narrated 'Abdur-Rahman bin Al-Aswad: (on the authority of his father) 'Aisha said: "Whenever Allah's Apostle wanted to f.ondle anyone of us during her periods (menses) , he used to order her to put on an Izar and start f.ondling her." 'Aisha added, "None of you could control his sexual desires as the Prophet could." ( Sahih al-Bukhari , Volume 1, Book 6, Number 299 ; see also Number 300) F.ondling menstrating women. Disgusting. Is that what you do and teach your children? 1 Like |
Re: Islam And The Meccans' Religions Before It by macof(m): 9:54am On Oct 08, 2015 |
lexiconkabir:see them losers 1 Like |
Re: Islam And The Meccans' Religions Before It by Nobody: 10:17am On Oct 08, 2015 |
truthman2012:Fathers are allowed to do it. No prophets f.ondle women but onlykindly go to songs of solomon Muhammad:yes! and so what? the disgusting thing here is fathers fingerin.g daughters Is that what you do and teach your children?do you finge.r your daughters? 2 Likes |
Re: Islam And The Meccans' Religions Before It by truthman2012(m): 10:23am On Oct 08, 2015 |
lexiconkabir: Liar! Quote your bible verse where fathers f.ingered their daughters. We have seen how your prophet could do any immoral acts. |
Re: Islam And The Meccans' Religions Before It by Nobody: 10:40am On Oct 08, 2015 |
truthman2012 “If a man takes a wife and, after laying with her, dislikes her and slanders her and gives her a bad name, saying, ‘I married this woman but when I approached her, I did not find proof of her virginity,’ then [size=21pt]the girl’s father[/size] and mother shall bring proof [how do you think they would do that?] that she was a virgin to the town elders at the gate. [size=21pt]The girl’s father[/size] will say to the elders, ‘I gave my daughter in marriage to this man, but he dislikes her. Now he has slandered her and said, ‘I did not find your daughter to be a virgin.’ [size=21pt]But here is the proof of my daughter’s virginity.’ Then her parents shall display the cloth[/size] [the father would literally stick his two fingers covered with a piece of cloth into his daughter’s vagina before she gets married and keep that bloody cloth for as long as his daughter is married] with before the elders of the town, and the elders shall take the man and punish him. (NIV Bible, Deut22:13-18)” 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Islam And The Meccans' Religions Before It by Nobody: 10:56am On Oct 08, 2015 |
truthman2012, According to the Midrash Hagadol, Isaac himself examined Rebekah digitally before their marriage (Midrash Hagadol to Genesis 24:67), we know that christianity came from judaism, to understand the OT verses we need to know the context which that verse was brought about, and we can only know this by refering to the judaism thalmud like the one above. |
Re: Islam And The Meccans' Religions Before It by truthman2012(m): 10:57am On Oct 08, 2015 |
lexiconkabir: The mother would check and confirm to the father who would inform the elders. So simple. It would have been a different thing if the mother is not involved. |
Re: Islam And The Meccans' Religions Before It by Nobody: 11:00am On Oct 08, 2015 |
truthman2012:truthman2012, this is a jewish tradition inserted into the bible, according to the tradition, the fathers does it not the mothers. kindly go to wikipedia to confirm this tradition |
Re: Islam And The Meccans' Religions Before It by truthman2012(m): 11:30am On Oct 08, 2015 |
lexiconkabir: Post the link. 1 Like |
Re: Islam And The Meccans' Religions Before It by Nobody: 11:44am On Oct 08, 2015 |
truthman2012:i wont do your homework for you |
Re: Islam And The Meccans' Religions Before It by truthman2012(m): 12:00pm On Oct 08, 2015 |
lexiconkabir: My homework? No, you are the one trying to prove a point. The onus of proof lies on you. 1 Like |
Re: Islam And The Meccans' Religions Before It by Nobody: 12:18pm On Oct 08, 2015 |
truthman2012:trash!!! |
Re: Islam And The Meccans' Religions Before It by Annunaki(m): 2:00pm On Oct 08, 2015 |
lexiconkabir: Typical muslim al taquiya expert, always throwing around baseless allegations that can't be substantiated. The burden of proof is on you so go and do your home work. 3 Likes |
Re: Islam And The Meccans' Religions Before It by Nobody: 2:38pm On Oct 08, 2015 |
Annunaki:read the discussion keenly, you will see that i have given proof, your homework is to read the discussion from the genesis, now do your homework! 3 Likes |
Re: Islam And The Meccans' Religions Before It by truthman2012(m): 4:06pm On Oct 08, 2015 |
lexiconkabir: Your allegation totally debunked. Now back to subject of the thread, which you have been dodging. Why the compatibility of pagan worship with islam? 2 Likes |
Re: Islam And The Meccans' Religions Before It by Nobody: 4:34pm On Oct 08, 2015 |
truthman2012: not so fast oldman, nothing has been debunked(or maybe you should quote the post you used in debunking), i gave proof from the judaism midrash hagodol. but lets pause for a second, lets assume the duty was solely the mother's(though its not), is it humane and morally okay? deflowering(using the thumb wrapped with white cloth) a damsel before marriage, to prove her virginity? 1 Like |
Re: Islam And The Meccans' Religions Before It by Nobody: 4:52pm On Oct 08, 2015 |
truthman2012 more proof that this digital deflowering a.k.a fingerin.g was done by the male is shown by numbers31:17-18 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.as we can see, they were asked to kill everything(both innocent people and animals) except for the virgins, now how do you expect these men to know the virgins? if not by the sick tradition of sticking their thumb wrapped with white cloth into the v'agina of these virgins. |
Re: Islam And The Meccans' Religions Before It by truthman2012(m): 5:18pm On Oct 08, 2015 |
lexiconkabir: You are just bent on this issue that has nothing to with the thread. Open a thread to discuss it. Now answer: Why is pagan worship COMPATIBLE with islam? STOP DODGING!!! If you cannot answer it shows you are worshiping an arabian idol. |
Re: Islam And The Meccans' Religions Before It by Nobody: 5:22pm On Oct 08, 2015 |
truthman2012:Exhausted!! 1 Like |
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