ode remo:



you can easily do this because once you overslave your workers under pay them and cream the profit, what laws stop you paying cheaplabour in Nigeria? its only your fair of GOD  and probably your conscience if ever you have one. all of us must be ready to effect a change in Nigeria without any talk talk. even govt doesn't obey its own labor laws. on wages , healthcare , insurance etc.
i once lived in a community of so called upper class in Abuja, a mai guard was employed on barely 10k monthly , this guy was killing himself on this job to the point of opening the gate for this idiots at 2.30 am without any sleep. this i challenged vehemently low and behold  your so called OGAs called me all sort of names including the fact that i have stayed too long in oyinbo contry hence my attitude. you see once you challenge the status quo the beneficiary will put up arms. so we must be ready for this fight or we shut up for ever.

The same attitude is so ever common around here. People cannot take criticism on board without resulting "how long one have been away" etc. Sucks big time.

Govt can't employ everybody, business and private enterprise are critical to the success of the nation. Even the remittances have a huge part to play.

Asha 80- business people see an opportunity, provide a service and get paid for this. This is not a crime, this can't be equated with public servants enriching themselves on public funds. We are all Nigerians, regardless of where we live. This diaspora tag na wahala.

Ode remo - Not all employers operate in the manner you describe. Is it better for this guard to have a job to look after his family now or wait for the guard job with pension, healthcare and insurance. We live in a capitalist economy, whilst unwelcome, these inequalities will happen, these inequalities you point out also exist in Spain, France, UK and USA greed is not the exclusive preserve of Nigeria.

SapeleGuy:

Govt can't employ everybody, business and private enterprise are critical to the success of the nation. Even the remittances have a huge part to play.

Agreed that government is not even to provide jobs, but it is up to government to ensure that the atmosphere is conducive for both businesses AND people. Note here that I stress the AND there? This is because no matter how many businesses and enterprise you have in an area, if the local people are not provided for, as in, if the atmosphere does not create an environment for them to thrive in, then you are likely not to have success. Case and point, the Niger delta area. Government continued to favor enterprise for years without addressing the concerns of the people. We all know where that ended.

SapeleGuy:

Asha 80- business people see an opportunity, provide a service and get paid for this. This is not a crime, this can't be equated with public servants enriching themselves on public funds. We are all Nigerians, regardless of where we live. This diaspora tag na wahala.

Not all those who amass wealth necessarily enrich themselves on public funds. Many actually do so by offering goods and services for sale, only that they overcharge or offer lower quality goods for more than they are worth and make tons of profit in the process.

SapeleGuy:

Ode remo - Not all employers operate in the manner you describe. Is it better for this guard to have a job to look after his family now or wait for the guard job with pension, healthcare and insurance. We live in a capitalist economy, whilst unwelcome, these inequalities will happen, these inequalities you point out also exist in Spain, France, UK and USA greed is not the exclusive preserve of Nigeria.

Back to addressing the point I believe @Ode remo is trying to make here. I don’t believe he is generalizing in any way, he simply stated that in the area where he felt he could apply his “CHANGE” logic in, he was rejected and so he could not change the minds of the particular people he set out to because they were not ready for it. And I think to understand this, one has to at least accept that there are limits to where you can apply yourself and your ideas. You cannot go to all of Nigeria trying to change it all. This group was his own small group to change but it did not work out as they were not ready for what he had to offer and so, brother bailed! Roflmao!!

Not all employers operate in the manner you describe. Is it better for this guard to have a job to look after his family now or wait for the guard job with pension, healthcare and insurance. We live in a capitalist economy, whilst

exactly the point raised by my neighbours that the mai guard should thank his luck for having a job, which i objected to seriously . i don't know him from Adams but this guy will then wake up at 5am to wash almost  10 cars before  he start other duties .if we can enslave a human being like that without fairness to his well being lets all search our conscience  is that fair., that is how we change the country. remember the saying from little a corn,

i know a lot has been said about 'moving back to Nigeria'. However this is my two bob's worth.
There seems to be a mindset that if you want to move back to Nigeria you need to be an 'entrepreneur'. Unfortunately, not all disporeans have the funds to start a business. For someone like me, i have been out of Nigeria for abt 10 yrs, and i will be happy to go back tommorow for the right opportunity. I've been a public servant for most of my working life and i believe i can make a difference in the Nigerian public service. My area of expertise is very specialised and even though it is needed, it is not particularly recognised. Also opportunities in the private sector is almost non-existing. But unfortunately, the recruitment process in the public service(if any)is never a transparent. it's all based on quota system and no one is ever appointed on merit. And until this changes, people like me will only continue our sojourn in foreign land.

It will take long for people like Kobojunkie (programmer) to return to Nigeria, since we have thousands of unemployed programmers in Nigeria.
Anyway I've given myself the next 3yrs to complete my return to Nigeria.

I guess the saying “Mind your own business” is lost on some.

Bottomline, change in Nigeria is NOT DEPENDENT on the migration or none of Diaspora. And the article the @Poster supplied does not conclude that the only way Nigeria can change is for people to move back to Nigeria. It instead focuses more on cautioning diasporas who plan to move back anytime soon on making sure to consider all their options before they take that trip.

ode remo:

you can easily do this because once you overslave your workers under pay them and cream the profit, what laws stop you paying cheaplabour in Nigeria? its only your fair of GOD  and probably your conscience if ever you have one. all of us must be ready to effect a change in Nigeria without any talk talk. even govt doesn't obey its own labor laws. on wages , healthcare , insurance etc.
i once lived in a community of so called upper class in Abuja, a mai guard was employed on barely 10k monthly , this guy was killing himself on this job to the point of opening the gate for this idiots at 2.30 am without any sleep. this i challenged vehemently low and behold  your so called OGAs called me all sort of names including the fact that i have stayed too long in oyinbo contry hence my attitude. you see once you challenge the status quo the beneficiary will put up arms. so we must be ready for this fight or we shut up for ever.

ode remo:

exactly the point raised by my neighbours that the mai guard should thank his luck for having a job, which i objected to seriously . i don't know him from Adams but this guy will then wake up at 5am to wash almost  10 cars before  he start other duties .if we can enslave a human being like that without fairness to his well being lets all search our conscience  is that fair., that is how we change the country. remember the saying from little a corn,

@ode remo

Your comments expose some of the serious problems in the social fabric of Nigeria. With all the millions of church-goers and mosque-goers in Nigeria (especially the oga pata patas), all the talk of making Nigeria better, etc., too many Nigerians are too unwilling to do for their fellow Nigerians what they ask of their government.

No - the article is saying, all those diasporic egg heads who have nothing doing abroad should go back home to Nigeria and do something worthwhile for themselves instead of ruining the reputation and credibility of Nigeria.

tombola:

No - the article is saying, all those diasporic egg heads who have nothing doing abroad should go back home to Nigeria and do something worthwhile for themselves instead of ruining the reputation and credibility of Nigeria.

Tell that to those Thames mead guys and Graves end crews who make a living from fraudulent activities.

I told you many of these people on here do not bother Reading many of the posts on here!! The Article was written by a Nigerian, likely in Nigeria but NO, for some reason they ignore what is being said only so they can assert their view in all.

I had been thinking quite a bit about returning, but a lot of things I read and hear are scary. On one hand I hear some people complain that people with international experience are preferred over locals, on the other hand I hear that there is a lot of antagonism towards returnees.

I love my career and I am comfortable and I think even happy, but sometimes I feel like a traitor fleeing the country I grew up in and not giving back. I ask myself, am I patriotic enough to die for my country or even endure the same dehumanising experiences I went through whilst growing up? The irony of it all is you don't get away from it all over here. In Nigeria you are treated like crap when you do not have money or do not know someone important. Over here you cannot help wonder sometimes the reason someone has reacted negatively towards you - ones personality or just the colour of the skin. Like the first black FTSE 100 CEO said, thinking along colour lines just makes life more difficult, but when that promotion does not come or your daughter is not accepted into a school for no justifiable reason - you start to wonder - especially when the mother of the girl concerned was born and raised over here. What do you have to do to be fully accepted I wonder? Who knows, maybe it was not the colour of her skin - maybe she just had not reached the right rung of the social ladder. Which makes me think one should stay where at least you have a faint opportunity of making something of yourself on merit.

Maybe it is better to make my 'new' home my permanent one and give up this idea of contributing to my country of birth. After all, what do I have to give that does not exist already in that rich country of ours - oh so full of resources - both human and material? Perhaps my allegiance should belong to the new home that has provided a relatively safe environment for me to live decently. Maybe I should make retirement plans with friendships both old and new cultivated and flourishing in my 'new' home.

But then why am I so melancholy? Why do I hate what I have become - cold and much too polite. I miss the joy of being loudmouthed once in a while in a good restaurant without getting stares or even just watching the raucous created by some woman who does not get her way at a bank (I hear if I want to get some of that I should just visit the Nigerian consulate - better than the entertainment value of watching Umoja they say)

I love my country, I love the green passport - I do not want to trade it in for the convenience of being treated 'normally' at passport control - or am I just being much too stubborn? How will they know there are quite a number of honest hardworking Nigerian passport holders? Maybe I should just give it all up to become a See the family once a year, visit by invitation only , don't give a damn If I don't attend your child's naming ceremony britonised Nigerian'!

Please forgive the airing of my thoughts - just wondered if there were fellow torn/confused Nigerians out there,

Marjorie09:

I had been thinking quite a bit about returning, but a lot of things I read and hear are scary. On one hand I hear some people complain that people with international experience are preferred over locals, on the other hand I hear that there is a lot of antagonism towards returnees.

I love my career and I am comfortable and I think even happy, but sometimes I feel like a traitor fleeing the country I grew up in and not giving back. I ask myself, am I patriotic enough to die for my country or even endure the same dehumanising experiences I went through whilst growing up? The irony of it all is you don't get away from it all over here. In Nigeria you are treated like crap when you do not have money or do not know someone important. Over here you cannot help wonder sometimes the reason someone has reacted negatively towards you - ones personality or just the colour of the skin. Like the first black FTSE 100 CEO said, thinking along colour lines just makes life more difficult, but when that promotion does not come or your daughter is not accepted into a school for no justifiable reason - you start to wonder - especially when the mother of the girl concerned was born and raised over here. What do you have to do to be fully accepted I wonder? Who knows, maybe it was not the colour of her skin - maybe she just had not reached the right rung of the social ladder. Which makes me think one should stay where at least you have a faint opportunity of making something of yourself on merit.

Maybe it is better to make my 'new' home my permanent one and give up this idea of contributing to my country of birth. After all, what do I have to give that does not exist already in that rich country of ours - oh so full of resources - both human and material? Perhaps my allegiance should belong to the new home that has provided a relatively safe environment for me to live decently. Maybe I should make retirement plans with friendships both old and new cultivated and flourishing in my 'new' home.

But then why am I so melancholy? Why do I hate what I have become - cold and much too polite. I miss the joy of being loudmouthed once in a while in a good restaurant without getting stares or even just watching the raucous created by some woman who does not get her way at a bank (I hear if I want to get some of that I should just visit the Nigerian consulate - better than the entertainment value of watching Umoja they say)

I love my country, I love the green passport - I do not want to trade it in for the convenience of being treated 'normally' at passport control - or am I just being much too stubborn? How will they know there are quite a number of honest hardworking Nigerian passport holders? Maybe I should just give it all up to become a See the family once a year, visit by invitation only , don't give a damn If I don't attend your child's naming ceremony britonised Nigerian'!

Please forgive the airing of my thoughts - just wondered if there were fellow torn/confused Nigerians out there,

Dude . . . call your church counselor and set an appointment Fast! You really need to talk to a professional or someone who has been through this ASAP!!

@kobojunkie , Heh heh. I think not - so they can tell me it's my enemies after me . Naah, I do not think I am alone in this - just brave enough to voice it,

Some believe in jesus but they don't understand the significance of Christ phenomenon.sacrifice,you got to lose to find.If you keep waiting for nigeria to pick up before you go back,then you got wait all your life,living an unfulfilled life pitching your tent under oyinbo umbrella,like a sub-human,unable to be original

Marjorie09:

@kobojunkie , Heh heh. I think not - so they can tell me it's my enemies after me . Naah, I do not think I am alone in this - just brave enough to voice it,

That a mad man is surrounded by other people of equal or greater madness does not remove from the fact that he is still mad! Lol 


Just because you are not alone, does not make it OK to continue in that mindset, dude!! and No, not all counselors tell you your enemies are after you. In fact, I think you definitely would benefit from talking to one. First, to get you a better idea of what counselors and psychiatrists, even church ones, do, and then to better help you understand what you may be dealing with there.

What home? Nigeria at her present status?
God help the PATRIOTS!!!

Maybe people like him needs to come back home though

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/fugitives/wcc/okuomose_or.htm

Marjorie09:

I had been thinking quite a bit about returning, but a lot of things I read and hear are scary. On one hand I hear some people complain that people with international experience are preferred over locals, on the other hand I hear that there is a lot of antagonism towards returnees.

I love my career and I am comfortable and I think even happy, but sometimes I feel like a traitor fleeing the country I grew up in and not giving back. I ask myself, am I patriotic enough to die for my country or even endure the same dehumanising experiences I went through whilst growing up? The irony of it all is you don't get away from it all over here. In Nigeria you are treated like crap when you do not have money or do not know someone important. Over here you cannot help wonder sometimes the reason someone has reacted negatively towards you - ones personality or just the colour of the skin. Like the first black FTSE 100 CEO said, thinking along colour lines just makes life more difficult, but when that promotion does not come or your daughter is not accepted into a school for no justifiable reason - you start to wonder - especially when the mother of the girl concerned was born and raised over here. What do you have to do to be fully accepted I wonder? Who knows, maybe it was not the colour of her skin - maybe she just had not reached the right rung of the social ladder. Which makes me think one should stay where at least you have a faint opportunity of making something of yourself on merit.

Maybe it is better to make my 'new' home my permanent one and give up this idea of contributing to my country of birth. After all, what do I have to give that does not exist already in that rich country of ours  - oh so full of resources - both human and material? Perhaps my allegiance should belong to the new home that has provided a relatively safe environment for me to live decently. Maybe I should make retirement plans with friendships both old and new cultivated and flourishing in my 'new' home.

But then why am I so melancholy? Why do I hate what I have become - cold and much too polite. I miss the joy of being loudmouthed once in a while in  a good restaurant without getting stares or even just watching the raucous created by some woman who does not get her way at a bank  (I hear if I want to get some of that I should just visit the Nigerian consulate - better than the entertainment value of watching Umoja they say)

I love my country, I love the green passport - I do not want to trade it in for the convenience of being treated 'normally' at passport control - or am I just being much too stubborn? How will they know there are quite a number of honest hardworking Nigerian passport holders? Maybe I should just give it all up to become a See the family once a year, visit by invitation only , don't give a damn If I don't attend your child's naming ceremony britonised Nigerian'!

Please forgive the airing of my thoughts - just wondered if there were fellow torn/confused Nigerians out there,

This is one of the great minds on NairaLand - poster, I give it up to you, for your sincerity, for the truth you told, and for daming all nay sayers- you are a real human being. May you live long.

~Saruman~:

What home? Nigeria at her present status?
God help the PATRIOTS!!!

You can return to Afghanistan, Helmand province and grow your own opium.