johnw74:


Lie Lie barristter you lie every time that you say I lied


again for the blinded, Lie Lie barrister posted my quote of Bible verses and then replied Lie Lie John to it
if he wasn't referring to my post then why did he quote it

Lie Lie barristter cannot help but Lie Lie
Truth couldn't be proved to Lie Lie barristter who has been blinded
you have proved that yourself in your inability to see the truth

dolphinheart:


when someone wants to lie or defend a lie, the bolded words will Come up.
They will never categorically say " this is what I said and this is where and how I said it"
they are sure of what I said and where I said, but when asked to produce facts, they are now fomulating probabilities.
imagine saying I said something from a conversation that you are not sure of!

zodiakzax:
go and make a research into it. Your founder believed in things that the WTS has changed over the years. If you want to know the truth then start questioning your very cult and their doctrines. John 20:28, Thomas here called Jesus my Lord and my God. Your blasphemous bible even translated it as such. Turn to God bfr it's too late for you.

CAPTIVATOR:


Use your brain, he said Lie Lie John, NOT lie lie Bible . he made reference to you

solite3:
And you sheepishly follow not minding if they are wrong, why do you attack people who have held on to the unchangeable teachings of Christ but follow man made doctrine that changes like chameleon.
The watch tower has a very bad history,can you trust such? Remember what Jesus told you "A bad tree cannot bring forth a good fruit" if the tree ( watch tower ) was not bad it would not have produce a corrupt fruit ( history of lies )shalom

johnw74:


ha ha, false jw lies all over the place
Lie Lie barristter made reference to my post of bible verses, theres no other reason he would quote it
and then say Lie Lie john about my post

false jw loves to lie and support each other in their lies.

CAPTIVATOR:


Daniel 12:4 makes it clear that at the end of the days , the knowledge of truth will become many. increased knowledge often requires adjusted understanding. which is why I commend Jehovahs Witnesses for willing to change if they discover yheir understanding is not fully scriptural. thats Humility . an evidence of been guided by Gods spirit.


Hellfire , Immortal soul and Trinity has been shown to be scripturally false, yet ur churches find it hard to let go of this FALSE teachings received from The Catholic Church , can u now see the hypocrites ?

CAPTIVATOR:


Lie Lie John. referenced to John NOT Bible, are u the bible ? or why cant u comprehend with your God given brain ?

johnw74:


giving false prophecy and then changing it to another false prophecy when the event never happened is not adjusting understanding,
you do lie, the false jw's are false prophets, false everything.

@bold, yes we have seen the pharisee jw hypocrites all along

johnw74:


Ha ha, Lie Lie captivator, all false jw can do is twist and Lie Lie

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

CAPTIVATOR:


Are they interpreting Bible prophecy or claim to be an INSPIRED prophet ?

CAPTIVATOR:


can you now see that u are just a pathetic liar ?

johnw74:


Ha ha, Lie Lie captivator, all false jw can do is twist and Lie Lie

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

CAPTIVATOR:
Many religious groups have made "prophecies"--actually, predictions--of things that would occur, some even giving specific dates. These include Lutherans, Baptists, Anabaptists, Presbyterians, Mormons, Assemblies of God, the Anglican Church, Catholics, and more. Jehovah's Witnesses are not the only group who have ever made predictions based on their understanding of Bible text that proved to be wrong. However, many lay more blame on Jehovah's Witnesses then any other religious group due to the fact that they hate us, thinking of us as a unorthodox.
Some argue that Jehovah's Witnesses have gotten too specific, choosing certain dates as the return of Christ. To them, this is what characterizes us as a cult? Well, look at three people who predicted times for the return of Christ who are well respected religious leaders.
"1836 [will be] the end of the non-chronos, and of the many kings; the fulfilling of the word, and of the mystery of God; the repentance of the survivors in the great city; the end of the 'little time,' and of the three times and a half; the destruction of the east; the imprisonment of Satan."
-John Wesley Wesley's Notes of the Bible , written throughout his life, 1703-1791
"I sincerely believe that the Lord draweth nigh. We may have another year, maybe two years, to work for Jesus Christ, and, Ladies and Gentlemen, I believe it is all going to be over ... two years and it’s all going to be over."
-Billy Graham, 1950 at a rally in Los Angeles, California
"Christ has given a sign by which one can know when the Judgment Day is near. When the Turk will have an end, we can certainly predict that the Judgment must be at the door."
-Martin Luther

[size=27] Martin Luther, Billy Graham, and John Wesley were not false prophets. They did make predictions based on their interpretation of the Bible that turned out to not be true but that does not make them guilty of false prophecy. They are guilty, though, of making these things seem as if they were without a doubt. [/size]


Jehovah's Witnesses, on the other hand have always told people that their interpretations of events could be wrong.
"We are not prophesying; we are merely giving our surmises . . . We do not even aver that there is no mistake in our interpretation of prophecy and our calculations of chronology. We have merely laid these before you, leaving it for each to exercise his own faith or doubt in respect to them."
-Regarding 1914: Zion's Watch Tower, January 1, 1908, page 4110

"The year 1925 is here. With great expectation Christians have looked forward to this year. Many have confidently expected that all members of the body of Christ will be changed to heavenly glory during this year. This may be accomplished. It may not be. In his own due time God will accomplish his purposes concerning his people. Christians should not be so deeply concerned about what may transpire this year."
-Regarding 1925: The Watch Tower, January 1, 1925, page 3



"'What about the year 1975? What is it going to mean, dear friends?' asked Brother Franz. 'Does it mean that Armageddon is going to be finished, with Satan bound, by 1975? It could! It could! All things are possible with God. Does it mean that Babylon the Great is going to go down by 1975? It could. Does it mean that the attack of Gog of Magog is going to be made on Jehovah’s witnesses to wipe them out, then Gog himself will be put out of action? It could. [size=28] But we are not saying. [/size] All things are possible with God. But we are not saying. And don’t any of you be specific in saying anything that is going to happen between now and 1975.'"
-The Watchtower, 15 October 1966, page 631

Barristter07:
johnw74



enough of this rant , prove that I post a lie ? you no get!


Lie Lie John

johnw74:


Lie lie dolphinheart
you know as well as I do that the conversation wen't something like

johnw74: God and the Word is God

dolphinheart: your god is a two headed god

now you were referring to my God, "God and the Word"

but twist away, it's one of those things false jw do

and bring out the post yourself, you are deluded to think I'm going search back for false jw,
I would do it for brocab a Christian.

johnw74:



that's funny isn't it,
a cross on the watch tower mag.

yet false jw say Jesus was nailed to a stake

lies everywhere in false jw literature,
and with what they say here,
I cannot possibly post even a fraction of it.

brocab:
For me I believe you, but If you can find it, show it, too shut him up. Lets see dolphinheart once more in Action, lying to the public.

solite3:
first of all I am not sure you understood what the post was all about.
Let me give you a brief explanation while you go back and read.
The book of revelation is the most difficult text to translate. Why?
I. There are only few manuscript available
ii. Most of these manuscript are incomplete
iii. the late canonisation of revelation may be due to it's early corruption
iv. The church fathers may have possess the authentic one which was also used by the textus receptus
v.the so called early manuscripts have been proven to have variants.
vi. Modern translations just follow this so called early manuscript only because they are "early" not mining if it was inspired or not
vii. There is high probability that these early manuscripts were not genuine but these modern translations rush to use them because they want to be different from the KJV and because they want to make money
Let me stop here
KJV still remains the best translation quote me any where
As for your allegations, they are just allegations
I m not saying kjv is 100% perfect but 98% sure

johnw74:


Finding it won't shut him up, he will just twist away and lie, you know that,

But ok I will look for it.

CAPTIVATOR:
Many religious groups have made "prophecies"--actually, predictions--of things that would occur, some even giving specific dates. These include Lutherans, Baptists, Anabaptists, Presbyterians, Mormons, Assemblies of God, the Anglican Church, Catholics, and more. Jehovah's Witnesses are not the only group who have ever made predictions based on their understanding of Bible text that proved to be wrong. However, many lay more blame on Jehovah's Witnesses then any other religious group due to the fact that they hate us, thinking of us as a unorthodox.
Some argue that Jehovah's Witnesses have gotten too specific, choosing certain dates as the return of Christ. To them, this is what characterizes us as a cult? Well, look at three people who predicted times for the return of Christ who are well respected religious leaders.
"1836 [will be] the end of the non-chronos, and of the many kings; the fulfilling of the word, and of the mystery of God; the repentance of the survivors in the great city; the end of the 'little time,' and of the three times and a half; the destruction of the east; the imprisonment of Satan."
-John Wesley Wesley's Notes of the Bible , written throughout his life, 1703-1791
"I sincerely believe that the Lord draweth nigh. We may have another year, maybe two years, to work for Jesus Christ, and, Ladies and Gentlemen, I believe it is all going to be over ... two years and it’s all going to be over."
-Billy Graham, 1950 at a rally in Los Angeles, California
"Christ has given a sign by which one can know when the Judgment Day is near. When the Turk will have an end, we can certainly predict that the Judgment must be at the door."
-Martin Luther

[size=27] Martin Luther, Billy Graham, and John Wesley were not false prophets. They did make predictions based on their interpretation of the Bible that turned out to not be true but that does not make them guilty of false prophecy. They are guilty, though, of making these things seem as if they were without a doubt. [/size]


Jehovah's Witnesses, on the other hand have always told people that their interpretations of events could be wrong.
"We are not prophesying; we are merely giving our surmises . . . We do not even aver that there is no mistake in our interpretation of prophecy and our calculations of chronology. We have merely laid these before you, leaving it for each to exercise his own faith or doubt in respect to them."
-Regarding 1914: Zion's Watch Tower, January 1, 1908, page 4110

"The year 1925 is here. With great expectation Christians have looked forward to this year. Many have confidently expected that all members of the body of Christ will be changed to heavenly glory during this year. This may be accomplished. It may not be. In his own due time God will accomplish his purposes concerning his people. Christians should not be so deeply concerned about what may transpire this year."
-Regarding 1925: The Watch Tower, January 1, 1925, page 3



"'What about the year 1975? What is it going to mean, dear friends?' asked Brother Franz. 'Does it mean that Armageddon is going to be finished, with Satan bound, by 1975? It could! It could! All things are possible with God. Does it mean that Babylon the Great is going to go down by 1975? It could. Does it mean that the attack of Gog of Magog is going to be made on Jehovah’s witnesses to wipe them out, then Gog himself will be put out of action? It could. [size=28] But we are not saying. [/size] All things are possible with God. But we are not saying. And don’t any of you be specific in saying anything that is going to happen between now and 1975.'"
-The Watchtower, 15 October 1966, page 631

brocab:
For me I believe you, but If you can find it, show it, too shut him up. Lets see dolphinheart once more in Action, lying to the public.

brocab:
To explain these 3 questions lets look what the bible had said, but my question is to you, do you honestly believe in the scriptures?
{John 17:21} Father just as you are in Me I am in you.
{Romans 8:11} And if the Spirit of Him {God} who raised Jesus from the dead IS LIVING IN YOU" He who raise Christ from the dead, will also give live to your mortal bodies because of His Spirit who lives in you.
Human beings have been created with a Spirit Soul and body {Genesis 1:27} So God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him male and female.
{Thessalonians 5:23} So may the God of peace Himself sanctify you completely, and may our hole Spirit and Soul and Body be kept blameless at the coming of our lord Jesus Christ.
It has been said we are not bodies with souls, we are souls with bodies, The body" the outer man is our physical housing which we experience the world. Our bodies function primarily through the five senses and by meeting innate that drives us to eat, drink and sleep, our bodies are not evil but are gifts from God. He desire that we surrender our bodies as living sacrifices to Him {Romans 12:1-2}
When we accept God's gift of salvation through Christ, our bodies become temples of the Holy Spirit. {1 Corinthians 6:19-20, 3:16}

brocab:
To clear this up, you need to watch this video, this will help you understand what your organization stands for.
I don't know about you, but for myself, I always need to know the truth about Christ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5JnngqQYvc

Daniel 12:4 makes it clear that at the end of the days , the knowledge of truth will become many.

increased knowledge often requires adjusted understanding

. which is why I commend Jehovahs Witnesses for willing to change if they discover yheir understanding is not fully scriptural

Humility . an evidence of been guided by Gods spirit.

Hellfire , Immortal soul and Trinity has been shown to be scripturally false,

yet ur churches find it hard to let go of this FALSE teachings received from The Catholic Church , can u now see the hypocrites ?

solite3:
[ quote author=CAPTIVATOR post=46004069]

[@bold where is this in the bible

can truth be adjusted

God's word is always the same. only words of men evolves, so your organisation can't claim to be controls by Jehovah. which humility, by lying or by not following Christian teachings

look somebody talking about humility has turned away from biblical teachings. well did apostle Paul warned about you that in the last days many will rise who will not take his to sound fortune but instead will heap teachers for themselves. are you saying what the prophets, apostles and even Jesus taught were false teachings?

there was a time I celebrate Christmas because I never knew its wrong, infact I taught Jesus was born dec 25

only a fool will use my former beliefs which have humbly changed from to judge my present , u agree ?

tell me the Present teaching of Jehovahs Witnesses thats wrong ?