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Re: Papa Eaglets And Our Cheating Culture by isuomo: 10:52am On Nov 17, 2015
Yinka Odumakin, still bitter that his man Jonathan lost the election. Useless son of Gun!!
Re: Papa Eaglets And Our Cheating Culture by Burger01(m): 10:53am On Nov 17, 2015
Dragonking:
[size=15pt]This is why we don't move forward...We are the same ones that always plot our downfall....The eediot that wrote this article has forgotten that of recent, before the tournament starts, all players will undergo an MRI scan first to determine their true age...So if the boys underwent the scan by FIFA and they were successful, why should this nincompoop come and write this trash Nigeria is it own enemy I swear. **spits**[/size]

angry angry angry angry angry angry
I blame the Mod that moved this poo shaitt to fp undecided

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Re: Papa Eaglets And Our Cheating Culture by Egabs(m): 10:54am On Nov 17, 2015
This is an open truth which is knwn by all. May God help us
Re: Papa Eaglets And Our Cheating Culture by freeborn76(m): 10:55am On Nov 17, 2015
I am glad someone finally has the ball to speak up. I did not celebrate our victory, I was too ashamed to even watch the games, the guys were clearly over aged. I recall watching a game between Nigeria's U20 and their Tanzanian counterparts in Ilorin in 2012, I was shocked to see men close to 30 been paraded as teenagers; I left the stadium in disgust before the end of the first half. We are gradually making dishonesty a norm in Nigeria and it disheartens me; that is why kidnappers and 419ers pay tithe to their church with brazen arrogance. Some even build houses and buy cars for their parents without questions asked. We have a long way to go! Thank you egbon Yinka. angry angry angry angry

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Re: Papa Eaglets And Our Cheating Culture by Cybertext(m): 10:56am On Nov 17, 2015
In as much as I would have love to agree with the Op... Age cheating is not restricted to Nigeria or African players alone...

Diego Costa (25), Balotelli (25) Paul Pogba (21), Vincent Kompany (28), Mangala (24), Ross Barkley (21)... the list goes on, these European players might have altered their age (they might have not)... If you look at most of them closely they look far older than their ages. If this guys are Nigerians we will all be shouting Age cheats.

One thing is certain though, one of the major reasons we experience a lot of success in under 17 level is not because of Age Cheat but because of poverty ... most of this players play their heart out in this tournaments because they want scouts of foreign clubs to sign them, after making lots of money you will see the same set of people playing without cohesion in U21 tourney (Op u want to tell me that 2years later this same group of Age cheats can not beat the same eligible U20 players? have their legs immediately gotten weak by after 2years that they can't beat their Junior

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Re: Papa Eaglets And Our Cheating Culture by Dragonking: 10:59am On Nov 17, 2015
Dragonking:
[size=15pt]This is why we don't move forward...We are the same ones that always plot our downfall....The eediot that wrote this article has forgotten that of recent, before the tournament starts, all players will undergo an MRI scan first to determine their true age...So if the boys underwent the scan by FIFA and they were successful, why should this nincompoop come and write this trash Nigeria is it own enemy I swear. **spits**[/size]

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Lalasticlala, Seun, mukina2 ...This thread should be removed from front page as it is meant to belittle our youthful heroes... These boys passed the MRI scan set by FIFA so I don't know why we should condole such nonsense write up.

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Re: Papa Eaglets And Our Cheating Culture by Judolisco(m): 11:01am On Nov 17, 2015
Check other teams 2
Re: Papa Eaglets And Our Cheating Culture by Bobbyunitedfc(m): 11:01am On Nov 17, 2015
NIGERIANS ARE ENEMIES OF PROGRESS TO THE NATION NIGERIA


whoever wrote this shiii should be sent to jAIL....every nation cheats,diego costa claims to be 26 and yet no news abot that...

Fifa mri scan qualified dis boys to play...who are u to judge...

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Re: Papa Eaglets And Our Cheating Culture by bigwallace(m): 11:03am On Nov 17, 2015
I raised this same issue duriing the tournament that I see no reason why we shud celeberate this cheats but I was so insulted some told me I shud bring their birth certificate to validate my claim.but den am a footballer myself nd I know how tins re run wen It cums to age grade competition.all the members of this set are all over 21 quote me anywer.am out

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Re: Papa Eaglets And Our Cheating Culture by Sly215: 11:04am On Nov 17, 2015
The writer is on his own as he is not up to date with the MRI wrist scan introduced by FIFA to check age cheats in age grade competitions. He should try and educate himself before casting aspersion on a country as a whole all in the name of writing something. The MRI wrist scan introduced by FIFA in 2004 or there about has reduced the tendencies for country to cheat not just Nigeria, but all countries participating in FIFA aged grade competitions as the penalties are stiffer than before.

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Re: Papa Eaglets And Our Cheating Culture by Bobbyunitedfc(m): 11:06am On Nov 17, 2015
bigwallace:
I raised this same issue duriing the tournament that I see no reason why we shud celeberate this cheats but I was so insulted some told me I shud bring their birth certificate to validate my claim.but den am a footballer myself nd I know how tins re run wen It cums to age grade competition.all the members of this set are all over 21 quote me anywer.am out

u claim to be a footballer u should be ashamed of urself,u even have the guts to call the boys cheats,e dey pain u say coach amunike no call u to join the squad,u for no dey yarn thrash......forget their age,what about the dys of trainings and efforts put into the competition,u disgust me

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Re: Papa Eaglets And Our Cheating Culture by ayusco85(m): 11:15am On Nov 17, 2015
lasisi69:
End time cheating

are u always this daft? must everything be endtime to u? undecided

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Re: Papa Eaglets And Our Cheating Culture by lasisi69(f): 11:16am On Nov 17, 2015
ayusco85:


are u always this daft? must everything be endtime to u? undecided
Okay

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Re: Papa Eaglets And Our Cheating Culture by watchindelta(m): 11:16am On Nov 17, 2015
rubbish talk
Re: Papa Eaglets And Our Cheating Culture by uzo4real(m): 11:16am On Nov 17, 2015
South Americans are on the same cheating level with Naija.... Diego Costa, Falcao....etc
Re: Papa Eaglets And Our Cheating Culture by Louislewis: 11:17am On Nov 17, 2015
[size=18pt]This man is seriously exposing Nigerians to the outside world with this write-up[/size]

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Re: Papa Eaglets And Our Cheating Culture by nappy1: 11:18am On Nov 17, 2015
You have spoken my mind this writer. No wonder, when they get to the senior level, they are exhausted all they have in junior level.
Naija i hail o.
Re: Papa Eaglets And Our Cheating Culture by Chukzyfcb(m): 11:18am On Nov 17, 2015
OP, all the players you mentioned are all old school. FIFA introduced the MRI test in 2009. So if you want to lay argument, start from 2009 sets when the scan was Introduced. There was no scan during the days of yakubu & okocha dem. If Ngeria no win now, una go still yab dem. Tufiakwa unu ndi nigeria! Humans can never be pleased, Never! #Because na africa win d cup, u dey write epistle. Smellos

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Re: Papa Eaglets And Our Cheating Culture by Nicepoker(m): 11:19am On Nov 17, 2015
richidinho:
grin

Okoro was nicknamed "Small Messi"

funny
okoro don play for calabar rovers for many years. He was born 1972.happily Divorced with four kids.

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Re: Papa Eaglets And Our Cheating Culture by Jalinco: 11:20am On Nov 17, 2015
Diego Costa is the reason why I stopped being a Chelsea fan. He claimed to be 26 when everyone knows the guy is older than Mourinho 52. I don't want to lose heaven

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Re: Papa Eaglets And Our Cheating Culture by standfirm: 11:21am On Nov 17, 2015
I recall a Dutch-journalist friend of mine who I was driving along the Airport Road in 1998 and saw a fellow peeing on the road. He looked at the guy and said to me: “If that man cannot see anything wrong urinating on the roadside,he would do other 1000 things that are not right and would not see nothing wrong”.

True talk

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Re: Papa Eaglets And Our Cheating Culture by Nobody: 11:21am On Nov 17, 2015
Cybertext:
In as much as I would have love to agree with the Op... Age cheating is not restricted to Nigeria or African players alone

Simple question for you: Nigeria beat Brazil 3:0 at the just concluded U-17 world Cup , Do you honestly believe the Super Eagles can beat Brazil senior national Team 3:0?

Nigeria u-17 beat Mexico 6:0 in 2013, do you think Super Eagle can beat their Mexican counterpart 6:0?!

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Re: Papa Eaglets And Our Cheating Culture by Nobody: 11:22am On Nov 17, 2015
Chukzyfcb:
OP, all the players you mentioned are all old school. FIFA introduced the MRI test in 2009. So if you want to lay argument, start from 2009 sets when the scan was Introduced. There was no scan during the days of yakubu & okocha dem. If Ngeria no win now, una go still yab dem. Tufiakwa unu ndi nigeria! Humans can never be pleased, Never! #Because na africa win d cup, u dey write epistle. Smellos

Nigeria beat Brazil 3:0 at the just concluded U-17 world Cup , Do you honestly believe the Super Eagles can beat Brazil senior national Team 3:0?

Nigeria u-17 beat Mexico 6:0 in 2013, do you think Super Eagle can beat their Mexican counterpart 6:0?!
Re: Papa Eaglets And Our Cheating Culture by bigwallace(m): 11:23am On Nov 17, 2015
Bobbyunitedfc:


u claim to be a footballer u should be ashamed of urself,u even have the guts to call the boys cheats,e dey pain u say coach amunike no call u to join the squad,u for no dey yarn thrash......forget their age,what about the dys of trainings and efforts put into the competition,u disgust me
lol, I laugh at your ignorance let's call a spade a spade wt is bad is bad,our football won't grow with this win at all cost mentality.the real u17 re in our secondary schools,just roger that.

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Re: Papa Eaglets And Our Cheating Culture by richidinho(m): 11:23am On Nov 17, 2015
Nicepoker:
okoro don play for calabar rovers for many years. He was born 1972.happily Divorced with four kids.

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Re: Papa Eaglets And Our Cheating Culture by 1wolex85: 11:27am On Nov 17, 2015
jonathanOz:
Agreed, we cheat, but don't make it sound like only Nigerians are culprit. Most south and North American countries too cheat. Even the mexican team we played sometime ago had some clearly over aged players among them.
And what's the use of the MRI scan? Why did FIFA incorporate it into the screening process? If fifa is okay with the results of the scan i don't see why anybody should be worried. Some peeps should stop proving more catholic than the pope abeg. Even FIFA is very corrupt

This is what I hate! So we shouldn't stop it because others do it? mtscheew

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Re: Papa Eaglets And Our Cheating Culture by Nobody: 11:27am On Nov 17, 2015
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Re: Papa Eaglets And Our Cheating Culture by SirdeKay: 11:28am On Nov 17, 2015
Coupled with the MRI scan, Nigeria has in the past few years ensured that players who have already played for or registered with football teams in our leagues are ineligible for the national U-17. You will observe that most, if not all the players in the World Cup winning team emerged from one football academy or the other. Also, during the screening process, a player has to bring along his Senior School Certificate which would provide a good clue in acertaining the correct age. I remember very well that during the screening process for this team, some promising players had to be either decamped totally or moved to the National U-20 camp because of age related issues.

In my humble view, I think that our NFF has done well in ensuring that age cheat issues are totally minimised in our national age-grade teams. What we need now is for us to proffer other means or options that can enable us to build upon the other measures we already have on ground instead of casting aspersions on our hard won victory.

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Re: Papa Eaglets And Our Cheating Culture by Chukzyfcb(m): 11:28am On Nov 17, 2015
Binb:


Nigeria beat Brazil 3:0 at the just concluded U-17 world Cup , Do you honestly believe the Super Eagles can beat Brazil senior national Team 3:0?

Nigeria u-17 beat Mexico 6:0 in 2013, do you think Super Eagle can beat their Mexican counterpart 6:0?!

What is wrong with ur mentality? Do you watch football atall Did germany not thrash brazil 7-0? Was it believable. When Bayern thumped barcelona 7-0 aggregate, was it not shocking? Lemme tell you that during the Introduction of the MRI scan, our NFF didn't approve it. Because the MRI scan disqualified over 15players when it found out we had overaged squad as of 2009. If MRI scan were to be seen as rubbish why did our NFF quarrel with it? The boys did well jare. Overaged cheatsare for sets before 2009 when MRI scan hadn't existed in the youth championship

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Re: Papa Eaglets And Our Cheating Culture by laporsche40: 11:30am On Nov 17, 2015
Av u guys forgotten that it is only in Nigeria we av football age which is different from d normal Age[color=#990000][/color] shocked
Re: Papa Eaglets And Our Cheating Culture by Cybertext(m): 11:33am On Nov 17, 2015
Binb:


Simple question for you: Nigeria beat Brazil 3:0 at the just concluded U-17 world Cup , Do you honestly believe the Super Eagles can beat Brazil senior national Team 3:0?

Nigeria u-17 beat Mexico 6:0 in 2013, do you think Super Eagle can beat their Mexican counterpart 6:0?!


One thing is clear, Football is not mathematics... because arsenal won Manchester utd 3:0 and Chelsea won arsenal 2:0 does not automatically mean Chelsea will win Manchester utd (it doesn't work like that).


Now to your question, like I said earlier this group of boys winning the tournament played with their heart in hope to escape poverty vis-a-vis get a quality contract from the European clubs. So if this same group of boys meet the same Braziliian team two years from now with the same zeal and hunger they will still dull Brazil (it might not be the same goal margin). And you must know that players development differs, 70% of the current Brazilian team never really played in the youth team.

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Re: Papa Eaglets And Our Cheating Culture by Vetsolo(m): 11:34am On Nov 17, 2015
iliyande:
By Yinka Odumakin

“Yakubu is 25 but a Nigerian 25”—Everton Manager, David Moyes in 2008.

“I don’t see Nigerian football getting out of the quagmire, the problem it is in, today, is because corruption is getting deeper and deeper. From time to time we get flashes where we do well in some competitions with overage players and we celebrate.
That was one of the issues I looked at; we can’t keep using overage players. We used over-age players for junior championships, I know that. Why not say it? It’s the truth. We always cheat. It’s a fact. When you cheat, you deprive the young stars that are supposed to play in these competitions their rights.”— NFA Chairman, Anthony Kojo Williams, in 2000.

JULIUS Agwu is one of my favourite comedians in Nigeria .I love his feminine voice,the crispness of his jokes as well as his delivery. Anytime I am boarding a flight and I call my wife,I usually say “abodu ala o”.I picked that from Julius.He cracked the joke about a flight attendant going around the lounge to announce an aircraft boarding because the public address system was not working during the renovations of the Enugu airport .

The Igbo lady was saying: “A Lagos abodu ala o” There was a passenger billed to fly that plane who did not understand a word in Igbo and therefore sat put while other passengers went to join the queue. About an hour later he went to the A… counter and asked why they had yet to make a boarding call only to be told that the plane had since departed “I went round shouting abodu ala” came from the flight attendant as if every passenger must understand her native tongue.

But his joke that is relevant to what I am discussing today is the one where he talked about some Nigerian team training for an age-grade competition near his house and how he went to one of the players to ask for his age and the response he got was: “Our coach has not given us our age”.

We have just “conquered” the world again in Chile and the drums are rolling in celebration of our lack of character and integrity as a people. Our infinite capacity to conspire in falsehood and pretend that all is well when the reverse is the case is once more being demonstrated even when we don’t blink in reciting our

NATIONAL PLEDGE:

“I pledge to Nigeria my country To be faithful,loyal and HONEST”

We say these and all the other lines(read LIES) even when no one believes in them. We have mastered the art of saying something and doing another because the very foundation of our country is a concrete of lies. Every action we take is built on falsehood because we just can’t do it right. Cheating our ways to corner undeserved advantages has become a national culture because we have not been able to construct a national vision.

After 55 years we still cannot count ourselves because an accurate census would minimise our ability to cheat. Our examinations have become a farce as parents even buy questions for their wards and pay for admissions. We beat traffic rules if there is nobody in sight to enforce them.Our politicians forge certificates to contest elections. Our vote counts conflict with actual vote cast. Judges take bribes to pervert Justice. Priests and Imams negate moral values. The “how “ no longer matter to us and yet we pray that our country should succeed .

We can occasionally have some fake success but not good success because we break all the rules of success as natural cheats. We deploy kids to vote in elections where adults should participate when we want to cheat internally and assemble adults to go and compete with kids globally when we want to cheat internationally. This is why we are celebrating 22 men who went to an unequal competition with only whispers about the actual ages of our boys.

Physical appearance
Mere physical appearances of our boys should tell any honest person that the suspicion about true ages of some Nigerian footballers which made FIFA to ban the country from all international fixtures for two years after finding that the birth dates of three of our players in the 1988 Olympics were different from ones used by the same players in previous tournaments is still very much with us.

Nigeria has over the years paraded promising “ youngsters” who mysteriously failed to fulfill their potential in the senior teams. Phillip Osondu was the best player at the 1987 Under-17 World Cup, after which he was signed on by Anderlecht, only to drift out of the game and into janitorial work after questions were raised about his real age. Femi Opabunmi shone brilliantly when Nigeria played in the finals of the Under-17 competition in 2001 and was officially the third youngest player in the senior team when he featured in the 0-0 game with England during the 2002 World Cup. But by 2005 he had expired doing only part-time soccer in some unrated team in lower rungs of the French league.

Adokiye Amiesimaka questioned the inclusion of Golden Eaglets captain Fortune Chukwudi during the 2009 Under 17 championship . Amiesimaka in an unusual candor bared his mind after Nigeria’s opening 3-3 draw with Germany at the Abuja National Stadium on October 24. “In the 2002/2003 season, I was chairman of Sharks Football Club of Port Harcourt. I decided to have a feeder team of fresh school leavers not older than 20 years.

One of my key players then is the current captain of our so-called Under-17 Golden Eaglets. By his own admission at that time, that is seven years ago, he was 18 years old…If we are not utterly irresponsible, how can he be eligible for this tournament when he is not less than 25 years old now?” Amiesimaka wrote in the Punch newspaper. Chukwudi played till the Eaglets final match and fizzled out thereafter. But since corruption is official in Nigeria,there was no whimper from our officials .
I read on The Cable in June this year of how Taye Taiwo’s twin sister allegedly celebrated her 39th birthday the day Taiwo was doing his own 27th.There was also the story of Samson Siasia cutting the cake of his 30th wedding anniversary at the age of 47!

About the most hilarious was that of Dele Ajiboye who exposed the lie over his age when he featured in the Under-17 tournament in 2007″.In the chat(with Soccer Star) the Golden Eaglets gold medal-winning goalkeeper in the FIFA U-17 World Cup in 2007 inadvertently revealed he was older than he claimed eight years earlier. When asked about his role model as a professional goalkeeper, the Kwara United keeper revealed the person without much fuss. “I have many role models.

Anyone I learn from is my role model,” he said. “I could remember when I was still a young boy, I do watch Peter Rufai and I learnt a lot from him.” Ajiboye is 25 now and 17 in 2007, but we doubt he was referring to the Peter Rufai of 1998 World Cup. Nobody learnt anything fruitful and meaningful from Rufai of 1998. Even Ajiboye at age eight couldn’t have learnt anything worthy from the fumbling Dodo Mayana except, of course, how to make cheap goals look spectacular. Then, we are assuming Ajiboye was referring to the Rufai of 1994 Africa Cup of Nations and World Cup. But in 1994, Ajiboye was four!”
James Spencer in an article traced age fraud in the Premier League to African players: “Age fraud came to prominence in the Premier League from the mid-1990s onwards, as clubs began looking more and more at emerging African players. Several former Premier League players from Nigeria alone have been suspected of such misrepresentation.

Nwankwo Kanu is a legend of African football and became a cult hero in England playing for clubs like Arsenal and Portsmouth. The tall forward won the Champions League with Ajax in 1995, but was always suspected to be as much as nine years older than his stated age. Speaking in 2010, Harry Redknapp jokingly exaggerated that Kanu was 49, though given how he described ever increasing ailments and the need for treatment, there seemed to be a shred of authenticity to his words.

Former Newcastle United striker Obafemi Martins was also at the centre of an age row. The player had spectacularly burst onto the scene with Inter Milan as a youngster, but failed to make the most of his talent, suggesting he could already have been much older than stated. In 2005, while Martins was still in Italy, the Nigerian Football Federation claimed he was actually born in 1978, though his player registration stated it was 1984.

National failure
Similar stories also exist for both Jay-Jay Okocha and Taribo West who plied their trade in the Premier League for Bolton Wanderers and Derby County, respectively.

Throughout his career, Okocha was rumoured to be 10 years older than his official age. Following his departure from Derby in 2001, West allegedly told Partizan Belgrade that he was only 28, though given the state of his body the club had strong suspicions that he was 40.

It may not occur to us that our national failure is the sum total of all these little acts of dishonesty .I recall a Dutch-journalist friend of mine who I was driving along the Airport Road in 1998 and saw a fellow peeing on the road. He looked at the guy and said to me: “If that man cannot see anything wrong urinating on the roadside,he would do other 1000 things that are not right and would not see nothing wrong”.

We shall engage in this hollow rituals of celebrating our “victory” but we know in the inner recesses of our minds that is all a fluke because we didn’t do it right. Scoundrels posing as patriots would even abuse this writer for writing the truth. That majority is wrong should not desist the minority that is right from saying it as it is.

The truth must be told even if heavens fall: It is only righteousness that exalts a nation.
cc; lalasticlala ,ishilove
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