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Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by Nobody: 9:22am On Nov 18, 2015 |
NiRfreak: I'm not judgmental, I only hold out for the truth even if I am the one affected but a lot of Nigerians think speaking the truth is being hypocritical. You're not the first one to call me a hypocrite cos I made a stand for righteousness even though they know nothing about me about me or my intentions. It just makes me sad about this country and the moral decay we have fallen into. You did not state whether what I said was the truth or not, you just concluded that I must definitely be a hypocrite. It's just so sad that things are looking very bleak for this nation. |
Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:23am On Nov 18, 2015 |
Dragonking: My Lawd!!! 2 Likes |
Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by axiliborha(f): 9:23am On Nov 18, 2015 |
Where are those foolish fools that posted that thread and who is the stupid MoD the posted it on FP.........because those guys look big doesn't mean that they are over aged........now imagine those American basketballers who are so big and tall that if you aren't careful you will call they sir when you are way older than them........Nigerians and their criticism......I pray we all stay as one 3 Likes |
Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by awesomegenius(m): 9:23am On Nov 18, 2015 |
TheGoodJoe: Bro,even 15,16 year old play under 10 |
Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:25am On Nov 18, 2015 |
axiliborha: Lebron James was huge and Massive as a 16 year old high school player. I wonder when physical attributes became a criteria. 1 Like |
Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by asha80(m): 9:25am On Nov 18, 2015 |
TheGoodJoe:of course not..these academies are well structured and have have history...but that does not mean we should lie about these things..of you use your real age it is not really a guarantee that you will turn up successful in football industry but for those that do you would last Long in the highest level of the game because you cant cheat nature..the good Portuguese national team of btw 1997 to 2004 do you know the backbone of that team was the under 20 youth teams of Portugal of 1989 and 1991? Do you know that davor suker,Robert prosinecki ,Robert jarni and zvonimir boban of the great France 98 Croatian team were under 20s of the then Yugoslavian team that won that tournament? 1 Like |
Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:26am On Nov 18, 2015 |
awesomegenius: Choi!!! It is a lie. I watched tender doves Under ten in Port Harcourt. No coach will take a secondary school boy in SS1, SS2 or SS3 and put in Under Ten. 2 Likes |
Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by axiliborha(f): 9:27am On Nov 18, 2015 |
TheGoodJoe:my brother I wonder oooooo........because these guys have full beards big chest now they are overaged 3 Likes |
Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by Nobody: 9:28am On Nov 18, 2015 |
An0nimus: Thanks I'm not taking it p o, but that we should stand against cheating in all its forms. |
Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by awesomegenius(m): 9:29am On Nov 18, 2015 |
I know 2 players in this present u-17 team....That are way above 17 |
Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:29am On Nov 18, 2015 |
asha80: My point is why would people compare our 2009 boys with players like Isco, Neymar, Munain, Morata, Gotze, who were already established youngsters and were bound to become Super Stars. 1 Like |
Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by jonathanOz: 9:32am On Nov 18, 2015 |
safarigirl:Don't mind those fools. As far as I'm concerned, if at all there is any age falsification in age grade competitions in this age, FIFA definitely knows about it and are COMFORTABLE with it. 1 Like |
Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by asha80(m): 9:33am On Nov 18, 2015 |
TheGoodJoe:read my post you quoted again..i edited it and added some names that were not part of western European football youth team set up |
Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by TruthHurts1(m): 9:37am On Nov 18, 2015 |
[color=#990000][/color]Cc: lalasticlala please share this excerpt from Wikipedia's page on age cheating: "Not everybody was pleased by the introduction of MRI, Nigeria had lost 15 players after they were proven to be over-age. Nigeria's Football Federation President Sani Lulu said: "I’ll not use the MRI to disqualify my players."He felt that FIFA had sprung their decision to use MRI upon the nations." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_fraud_in_association_football 1 Like |
Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by NiRfreak(m): 9:41am On Nov 18, 2015 |
michlan:Things will continue to look bleak if we cant understand and appreciate that the boys are legally eligible to compete since they are certified by the scan.....all errors by the scan av been reviewed and are within permissible margin as stipulated by FIFA....so whats our problem with over flogging truthfulness and rigteousness in a secular football competition that gives room for a permissible level of age error...... 2 Likes |
Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by Ranchhoddas: 9:43am On Nov 18, 2015 |
asha80:Perfect. |
Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by awesomegenius(m): 9:45am On Nov 18, 2015 |
TheGoodJoe: Bro!.......Most Coaches Make Use Of Facial expressions Nd Heights To Catergorize U-10,I'm An Academy Player So I Know What M Talking About.......I've Played U-10 |
Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by NiRfreak(m): 9:47am On Nov 18, 2015 |
TheGoodJoe:No body is bound to be super star in football...it is the system they found themselves and the opportunity availed to them by their country and club dat distinguish them....they are not a better talent compare to our boys....if they passed through the same challenge and harsh circumstances our boys passed through they woulnt be anyway better......their destiny would av taken a different path 3 Likes |
Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by safarigirl(f): 9:52am On Nov 18, 2015 |
Dragonking:honestly, the foolishness and ignirnce is befuddling. There is no excuse whatsoever to be that dumb, not even colonik mentality can be blamed 4 Likes |
Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by Nobody: 9:53am On Nov 18, 2015 |
NiRfreak: OK, I think I get you. The argument is between legality and morality which I think you support the former. I however take morality about legality any day anytime. I initially didn't want to share some personal experiences but I know one of the guys (now in super eagles) who was recruited as a mercenary to play for my secondary school at shell cup then. I was in ss3 and I was 15 years yet these guys were recruited to jss3 and were called 13 years. Even those of us in ss3 usually call them egbon. They won the shell cup and 3 years after I saw this guy representing at under 17 world cup. Now he is a super eagles player. Though he was accepted legally by fifa (there was no MRI era then), I don't feel justified to celebrate their victory cos I know the story. |
Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by Dragonking: 9:55am On Nov 18, 2015 |
TheGoodJoe:You dey answer that dunce. 2 Likes |
Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by Dragonking: 9:58am On Nov 18, 2015 |
TheGoodJoe:My broda, e surprise me too oh...Some Nigerians can go to any extent to discredit their own. I dont know if this is just pure evil intent or black man mentality. 4 Likes |
Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by Dragonking: 10:05am On Nov 18, 2015 |
dustydee:I also complained to seun about this. The mod should read and go through a topic before he decides to carry it to front page...Everything is not about generating viewing traffic. 1 Like |
Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by Nobody: 10:10am On Nov 18, 2015 |
jonathanOz: FIFA being comfortable with it does not justify cheating. There was a time the FG authorized medical doctors in govt to have their private hospital and do you know the result, the doctors were no longer as committed to the job they collected salaries for. When I was in secondary school, our teachers then were so committed I now appreciate their sacrifice. Yet their salary was very low. It was when obasanjo came in and increased the minimum wage that they got a little reprieve (my mum was a teacher) and these teachers were deeply committed to our development. Now, there's no law restricting a govt teacher from having private tutorials and you see the teachers of this generation are no longer as committed to their jobs. It is at their private tutorials they give their best despite collecting govt salaries. It's a matter of conscience and not the legality of their actions. I know of some doctors who did not have private hospitals so long as they were in government service, some resigned in order to practice privately despite the fact that the govt had given them legal ground to do otherwise, same for some teachers I know who do not go out to participate in evening tutorials but give their best to the jobs they collect salaries for. The truth is the authorities can give directives stemming from corruption, it is left for you as an individual to follow your conscience and principles. The NFF could even aid the cheating moreso I heard the test is conducted by the national FA and not FIFA. |
Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by NiRfreak(m): 10:14am On Nov 18, 2015 |
michlan:Hmmm Pastor....how do u explain my own case whereby i was 13 when i got enrolled into Jss 1?.........I think d age is still permissible.....there is nothing perfect in this world and no one is perfect........I'm sure you are speaking from your religious inclination and indoctrination which does not have anytin to do with sport......Morality and sport : wher is the link?.....Besides, football is a sport whose major edge on opponent is based on falsehood...e.g players are expected to lie to simulate fouls and injury in order to earn corners , throw in, penalty , freekicks etc......falsehood is part of the game its an integral practice and culture of the game just to earn advantage. ......So ur morality is better used in a perfect world and in church not in sport that accept morality within the context and yardstick of their rules and regulation....not on biblical or any religious principle...thank you. |
Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by Dragonking: 10:23am On Nov 18, 2015 |
asha80:Can you provide proof? 1 Like |
Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by Dragonking: 10:24am On Nov 18, 2015 |
TheGoodJoe:You can see what i mean that nigerians will go to any extent even if it is to tell lies just to discredit their own..That guy just lied and someone will take his comment as true without any backing. 1 Like |
Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by Dragonking: 10:27am On Nov 18, 2015 |
bigwallace:You be confirmed mumu....If i take you to court and provide the FIFA report showing the MRI scan of those boys to be U17, what evidence do you have to defend yourself apart from hearsay and eye judgement....Ode oshi 2 Likes |
Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by Nobody: 10:29am On Nov 18, 2015 |
NiRfreak: Lol. Morality covers all aspects of life including sports. Not everyone cheats or simulates in order to win. One's principles should cut across all walks of life and not that I drop some principles when i'm about to do some things and apply them when i'm about to do others. I've really learnt a lot from people like Strive Masiyiwa. Our principles should be in totality and not compromise when faced with certain circumstances. That's the bedrock of a strong character. 1 Like |
Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by NiRfreak(m): 10:38am On Nov 18, 2015 |
michlan:Chai nawa for uo....You and your christian views.....funny enough No sport uses or applies Christian principle in winning....jst tak it or leave it...... |
Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by dabossman(m): 10:55am On Nov 18, 2015 |
Bollinger: @bolded: Really? But 16-17 year-old Germans, Brazilians, Spaniards, Argentines can play at that level? It is only the Africans that cannot play at that level. I guess your secondary school never had a school team. Kids at that age can play football for 3 hours non-stop. And please enough with the beer parlour gist about Osundu. We've all heard those tales about him. They spent millions on him indeed. I guess you signed the cheques. 3 Likes |
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