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Re: On The Sugabelly Rape Allegations by EfemenaXY: 11:43am On Nov 29, 2015 |
Mindfulness: Ok Have you ever heard of naturist beaches where people, entire families, swim and sunbath naked? I am sure you have. It is natural for these people to grow up seeing all sorts of na.ked bodies. I didn't grow up like this so it is strange for me but I can see many advantages in practicing this lifestyle such as seeing nudity as something natural and not offending or dirty. Of course I have, but that's completely different. You're referring to a setting specifically "designed" to meet the beliefs of a particular "cult" or set of people who share a common ideology. That's hardly the case for the public pool which caters for everyone hence the demarcations. Those with nudíst ideologies can, and are free to use the group unisex changing rooms, while the more conservative group of people should be allowed to change in the gender only rooms. Nudïsts should respect the perceptions of others and not force their ideologies on non-nudïsts / conversationalists.
And how would you feel if you were the girl's mother, or better still, the little girl? You don't think her privacy was being invaded upon by his unblinking stare? At what point does decorum kick in, if at all, since you're of the opinion that people "cover their bodies in shame"? Didn't you say he peed there? No. I said he tried to have a little peep. As in "peeping Tom". I.e. commit lookery.
Okay. But in a morally decadent society, one can never be too careful. |
Re: On The Sugabelly Rape Allegations by Amya(f): 11:49am On Nov 29, 2015 |
Onegai: They startrped hooking up in February. she turned 18 the next month. |
Re: On The Sugabelly Rape Allegations by Nobody: 11:58am On Nov 29, 2015 |
EfemenaXY: @bold I would have not allowed it in the first place. @red Some sociologists would disagree. Different topic. |
Re: On The Sugabelly Rape Allegations by snubish: 2:25pm On Nov 29, 2015 |
I have been following this case keenly and finally reached a conclusion. i have also read sugabelly's blog occasionally. clearly she is a creative young woman and an extremely gifted writer. read her blog and u'll know she is something different in her style and quality of writing. the problem is in the content of her writing which may seem initially amusing but becomes shocking on closer appraisal. take for example her blog post 'why i had sex'. Many comments actually praised her for not being hypocritical, for being sexually mature and free and so on. A few people were able to discern the impropriety of it all, fewer still would have observed the dysfunctionality of the whole thing. and this is evident in many of her other posts to those who can sense them. to start with her name is Lotanna which means 'remember the father', this suggests parental loss at birth or something of that nature. this is mere speculation but clearly there has been the absence of a father figure all along and this may be the single most important factor to decipher all her actions. 4 Likes |
Re: On The Sugabelly Rape Allegations by snubish: 2:50pm On Nov 29, 2015 |
what the young lady clearly is suffering from is a Histrionic personality disorder. why she ticks almost all the boxes. absent father figure. overly suggestive and erotic behaviour. creative and over dramatic and over emotional repeating patterns of abuse in dysfunctional relationships no stable long term relationships self centeredness. depression and suicidal tendencies. there are more if you read between the lines. while she may not be completely lying about the Audu man, it would be simple and ignorant to believe all her tales. these people are prone to exaggeration worse still is that she has a talent for writing. i personally do not envy the young man at this moment, while not particularly academically bright many sufferers are extremely clever beyond most people's daily encounters. i'm not exonerating the man, but in their relationships, everyone is scarred they victims as well as abusers, they suggest abuse and encourage abuse. then they use the abuse to manipulate. i know this because i dated and truly loved a person with a similar disposition for 2 years. so i speak from experience, it was knowledge gained the hard way. the young man would have learnt his lesson I'm sure. he should face the consequences of any excesses his youthful exuberance may have caused him to truly engage in. the young lady would not benefit from chastisement or random comments of sympathy on a blog post or public forum. the disorders start in early life and her deeply ingrained in the personality. she would benefit more from psychotherapy by trained personell. she should be encouraged to stick to her medication well to prevent he depressive bouts from becoming eventually suicidal. quite frankly it would do no good to comment more on the matter. this is a hard life and the damage on both sides is immense, naturally it would be tougher on the man who has been a more stable and rather accomplished young man with a family in bloom. good day. 3 Likes |
Re: On The Sugabelly Rape Allegations by Stillfire: 3:31pm On Nov 29, 2015 |
@snubish I really like how you relayed your opinion. Very thoughtful post. I've learned a lot from this saga. I believe this is a learning moment for everyone - boys, girls, parents, guardians. |
Re: On The Sugabelly Rape Allegations by Nobody: 3:42pm On Nov 29, 2015 |
snubish: Why would people date such people? It is an interesting question, isn't it? |
Re: On The Sugabelly Rape Allegations by Kimoni: 4:44pm On Nov 29, 2015 |
EfemenaXY: |
Re: On The Sugabelly Rape Allegations by Kimoni: 4:52pm On Nov 29, 2015 |
Mindfulness: If only it was easy to know this sort of people from a distance, no one or maybe less people would. @snubish - that was a deep analysis of the whole situation and the people involved, I'm inclined to accept your submissions. And yes, the guy should face the consequences of his youthful exuberance. |
Re: On The Sugabelly Rape Allegations by Nobody: 4:58pm On Nov 29, 2015 |
Kimoni: I have a different theory. Without being judgmental, there must be something inside of a person to feel attracted to someone like this. Have you ever heard of the term codependent relationship? |
Re: On The Sugabelly Rape Allegations by Kimoni: 5:16pm On Nov 29, 2015 |
Mindfulness: For me, the problem is not the initial attraction you have to that person or the desire to date him/her, the problem for me, lies in you opting to forge ahead with the relationship when it become glaring to all who he/she is. @codependent relationship - yes |
Re: On The Sugabelly Rape Allegations by queenfav(f): 5:22pm On Nov 29, 2015 |
5minsmadness:I love you..seriously.I have read her all blog posts,tweets and all.What I can say is that she has deep seated paranoia and other physchological disorders.Forget the stokholm syndrome abeg.She had a choice and decided to take the abuse.Even her mother was aware of the relationship.She is just an ex who is scorned.Do you guys think if mustapha married her these allegations would come up?An average 17yr old ought to have enough sense to walk away.She obviously has a high propensity to self-destruct and also has wild sex fantasies.In one of her mails she revealed that she had lesbian se.x to mustapha.On her blog,as recent as last year,she was dating a guy she met on twitter who told her he had a girlfriend.Yet she willingly became a side-chick.For me,all this noise is not going to help her much.Because if she had clinical depression,the revelations that will follow can make her suicidal.Her family had better fly her abroad and check her into a psych ward. 1 Like |
Re: On The Sugabelly Rape Allegations by Nobody: 5:25pm On Nov 29, 2015 |
Kimoni: We mean the same thing, I just wasn't clear enough. I should have asked, how is it possible that someone continues feeling attracted to such a person and relationship. Frankly speaking, I would run. |
Re: On The Sugabelly Rape Allegations by queenfav(f): 5:31pm On Nov 29, 2015 |
Mindfulness:That is where the parenting issue comes to play.The mother deserves to be dragged on tarred roads with a dangote truck till she bleeds to death.Seriously..At 17 your child has no business dating a man,let alone a 25 year old.I had my first relationship in uni and I was above 18 then.Even at that,my folks would ask me to bring him home,so they can interact with him.What sort of mother would be alive while her child is hopping from hotel to hotel at 17.The family ought to have sensed that she had psychological issues and drew her closer.All her actions are characeristics of a teenager rebelling against poor parenting.If the mother had not dumped her in a boarding school on her own,I doubt she would have degenerated to such heights.There is a bond to be built with a child when growing up.That bond cannot be established when the mother is a part-time parent. 1 Like |
Re: On The Sugabelly Rape Allegations by Nobody: 5:32pm On Nov 29, 2015 |
queenfav: You are saying that she has "a deep seated paranoia and other psychological disorders" and you wonder why people pity her? Moreover, do you think a person who suffers from what you have just described, is able to make reasonable decisions? Did she decide to take the abuse or is it a result of her disorders? 1 Like |
Re: On The Sugabelly Rape Allegations by Nobody: 5:35pm On Nov 29, 2015 |
queenfav: And yet you were wondering why people pity her. This is why. 1 Like |
Re: On The Sugabelly Rape Allegations by queenfav(f): 5:38pm On Nov 29, 2015 |
Mindfulness:Na true u talk abeg..I am just annoyed at a lot of things..Because she ought to be thinking of how to move past it and be a better woman,than getting involved in all this scandal.The parents are major screw-ups.That's why I don't question God why he decided to make some women barren.Because only He knows what kind of mothers they would have become.You find cases of parents abusing their kids,using them as loan collateral,sending them off to become househelps at tender ages.You'll just wonder why God gave them the child for starters.I hope this saga ends well for her,because for me..I know it will get more messy. |
Re: On The Sugabelly Rape Allegations by Nobody: 5:46pm On Nov 29, 2015 |
queenfav: You don't have to be annoyed. It doesn't help anyone. A persons ho suffers from mental health issues can't make sane decisions. There are women out there who would make great mothers and are barren. And there are women like Suggabelly's mother who received the fruit of the womb even though she apparently doesn't deserve to be called a mother. So it has nothing to do with God punishing women for being wicked. 3 Likes |
Re: On The Sugabelly Rape Allegations by queenfav(f): 5:47pm On Nov 29, 2015 |
tearoses:You have said it all. |
Re: On The Sugabelly Rape Allegations by queenfav(f): 5:49pm On Nov 29, 2015 |
Mindfulness:Yea,in all God is all seeing and has reasons for not blessing most women with a child.The lack of good parenting skills is just one instance,its not exclusive. |
Re: On The Sugabelly Rape Allegations by Nobody: 5:50pm On Nov 29, 2015 |
queenfav: God blesses everyone, it is just that not everyone is in the receiving mode. 3 Likes |
Re: On The Sugabelly Rape Allegations by Nobody: 6:00pm On Nov 29, 2015 |
tearoses: She was molested at age 11 for a while. She is really damaged |
Re: On The Sugabelly Rape Allegations by babygirlfl: 6:03pm On Nov 29, 2015 |
Ewuro4: Na true. The mama and papa don turn human being to goat. |
Re: On The Sugabelly Rape Allegations by queenfav(f): 6:03pm On Nov 29, 2015 |
EfemenaXY:That's it o..I hope to be married soon and I get scared about parenting.I don't know if I am strong enough for the serious responsibilities and obligation of motherhood.Its not just enough to show the world you are fertile,it takes a lot to raise a child you can be proud of.My mum wasn't perfect,heck..I was even from a broken home.Yet she made sure she was involved in every area of my life.I see her as a friend more than a mother,that way I can tell her anything till date.She was strict with me,but also drew me close so I don't get scared of her ,and start trying to show her I am an adult by rebelling.I was not brought up to be naïve,she ensured that so I don't go around acting like a mor.on and blame it on young age.Everything sugarbelly went through was kick-started by lack of parental care and proper upbringing. |
Re: On The Sugabelly Rape Allegations by queenfav(f): 6:04pm On Nov 29, 2015 |
Mindfulness:lol..u are right again on that. |
Re: On The Sugabelly Rape Allegations by cococandy(f): 6:25pm On Nov 29, 2015 |
Nice contribution snubish. Please how can you make a medical diagnosis over the Internet? Plus she's not displaying the telltale signs of histrionic personality disorder. She does seem to have emotional issues apparently. But which it is, is left for her psychiatrist/s to diagnose. The thing is to know when her issues started. Before or after the escapades? Before people will start dismissing her claims for the rants of a mad woman. |
Re: On The Sugabelly Rape Allegations by puffynana(m): 6:43pm On Nov 29, 2015 |
Rape or no rape? I don't care. All this guy's saying 17years old babe is under age thunder fire una if u ever strafe pre-degree babe back in schl. Am in plateau state presently a 15 years old babe in jss3 here has given birth to three children. My point is under age sex is everywhere in Nigeria. It takes a lot of control to see an under age babe that is fully matured and ready to give it and say no. And from what is happening all over us, I think under age sex is a crime ONLY when it involves a much older man. Besides when a girl is compulsive, she will do anything u ask her to. They are a lot of them. I av experienced it myself from a much older babe around 28 who feels she has bad head cause she is not yet married. She goes as much as cutting her self with knife and attempting suicide wen u break up with her. It's just so sad they have to live life that way. Not their fault though. |
Re: On The Sugabelly Rape Allegations by nasha1(f): 6:45pm On Nov 29, 2015 |
snubish: beautiful post,you have said it all.anybody interested in taking her claims to court is free to do so.your opinion was very objective. |
Re: On The Sugabelly Rape Allegations by 5minsmadness: 7:01pm On Nov 29, 2015 |
Mindfulness:@mindfullness the bold is what piques me. Why are u now treating her as if she had no choice, as if she was in no way psychologically empowered to prevent what happened to her? She decided to take the abuse pls. Now u are claiming the patient was psychotic to get her off the hook. The Gov's son was wrong and amoral, yes, but pls do not absolve her of all responsibility. 1 Like |
Re: On The Sugabelly Rape Allegations by Kimoni: 7:39pm On Nov 29, 2015 |
Mindfulness: oh ok, I get you. I guess that's where our physical, mental and spiritual strength comes into play. And that's where we'll probably need to dig deep into her upbringing. She realized she was being maltreated but she didn't have the strength to walk away but kept hoping against hope that the guy would change. |
Re: On The Sugabelly Rape Allegations by AtheistD(m): 8:52pm On Nov 29, 2015 |
cococandy: He has released a response. I haven't been following the whole saga but I think the allegations are 90% accurate. |
Re: On The Sugabelly Rape Allegations by snubish: 9:47pm On Nov 29, 2015 |
Mindfulness: they can be more charming than usual, and more attractive at times. have u seen her; sugarbelly? i'm sure u know good people in bad marriages. |
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