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Judaism: 12 Painful Facts by menesheh(m): 3:27pm On Dec 03, 2015
Fact 1: The Torah (“Five Books of Moses”), the very pillar of Judaism, wasn’t written by Moses, but by numerous anonymous authors who contradicted one another with regards to theology and history. [1]

Fact 2: The bulk of the Book of Genesis wasn’t written in the second millennium BCE, as both Jewish and Christian traditions assert, but in the Exilic or Post-Exilic Period (6th Century BCE ~ during or after the Jewish exile in Babylon).

Fact 3: The Book of Genesis contains numerous plagiarized (adopted) myths, all of which find their origins in the more ancient empires of Mesopotamia – The Creation, The Garden of Eden, The Fall of Man, The 12 Patriarchs prior to the flood who all lived extremely long lives, The Flood, the shortening of lifespans after the flood, The Tower of Babel and even Abraham and Sarah’s descent into Egypt (See Descent of Ishtar and Tammuz). This relates to Fact 2, as the Jews were in exile in the very place (Babylon/Chaldea) from which many of these myths in Genesis find their, well, genesis.

Fact 4: The Exodus probably didn’t happen, as there is no archaeological evidence for the 1.2 million people who were alleged to have left Egypt and camped at Mt. Sinai – no Egyptian records, nor any form of historical or archaeological evidence where there should be (archaeological argument from silence), given the circumstances and presence of records prior to and during this alleged event. Also, at the time in which the exodus was alleged to have taken place, Egypt’s entire population was around 3 million, so an exodus of 1.2 million of its free labour force would have crushed Egypt economically, but Egypt continued to reign well after this alleged event.

Fact 5: The Story of Moses being placed in a basket of reeds covered with bitumen was a direct plagiarism (adoption) of the earlier Mesopotamian ruler’s escape from infanticide narrative, Sargon of Babylonia, who was also said to have been placed in a basket of reeds covered with bitumen, plucked from the water, and whom, Akkadian legend holds, went on to become the great law giver of the more ancient Akkadians.

Fact 6: The popular Ten Commandments can be accounted for, almost in their entirely, in the earlier Egyptian ‘Negative Confessions’, located in the ancient Egyptian ‘Book of the Dead’, and many other “Jewish” teachings, including the ‘lex talionis’ (Eye for an eye) were also present in the earlier Babylonian Code of Hammurabi.

Fact 7: Much the so-called ‘Wisdom Literature’ in the Hebrew Bible (Particularly Proverbs), dishonestly represented as direct revelations of the wisdom of the tribal deity of the Israelites, contains sayings and proverbs that were directly taken (in some cases word for word) from earlier Egyptian and Mesopotamian literature.

Fact 8: The birth of the Israel (Joshua’s alleged conquest) has been shown to have been an outright fiction, along with the exaggerated size of the so-called “Kingdom” of David, who may have been, along with Moses and Abraham, a fictional character.

Fact 9: Both the Jerusalem and Babylonian Talmuds (collection of rabbinical discourses that interpret the Torah) are laced with harmful racism, xenophobia, and silly superstitious stories that are almost certainly false.


Fact 10: The religion of Judaism was originally a polytheistic religion and although apologists have tried to argue that the pluralistic epithet ‘Elohim’ (gods) is merely a pluralis Majestatis (majestic we), there are places in the Hebrew Bible that contradict this notion, and this epithet is also applied to the gods of other nations. Judaism only became monotheistic at a relatively late point in history, and it wasn’t the first monotheistic religion. Long before it developed into a monotheistic religion, the ancient Egyptian religion of ‘Atonism’ (worship of the god Aton) existed as a strict monotheistic religion.

Fact 11: The practice of circumcision originated in ancient Egypt. The ancient historian Herodotus informs us that the people of Israel and Palestine adopted this custom from the ancient Egyptians. Also, the practice of circumcision and particularly, the ultra-orthodox practice of ‘metzitzah b’peh,’ (the sucking off of the baby’s partially severed foreskin by an old rabbi) has been responsible for killing numerous infants in recent years, by infecting the infants with herpes.

Fact 12: The Hebrew Bible promotes slavery, genocide, human sacrifice, infanticide, rape, misogyny, murder, the theft of land and property, among other crimes. In the words of Robert G. Ingersoll: “If a man would follow, today, the teachings of the Old Testament, he would be a criminal. If he would follow strictly the teachings of the New, he would be insane.” In other words, the Hebrew Bible is the ancient moral equivalent of Hitler’s Mein Kampf.



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Re: Judaism: 12 Painful Facts by hahn(m): 3:37pm On Dec 03, 2015
People will always need something to believe in
Re: Judaism: 12 Painful Facts by Scholar8200(m): 3:54pm On Dec 03, 2015
I wish the op was the original author of this write-up! Then he could take questions and clarify issues.

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Re: Judaism: 12 Painful Facts by KingEbukasBlog(m): 4:04pm On Dec 03, 2015
menesheh:


Fact 1: The Torah (“Five Books of Moses”), the very pillar of Judaism, wasn’t written by Moses, but by numerous anonymous authors who contradicted one another with regards to theology and history. [1]

Fact 2: The bulk of the Book of Genesis wasn’t written in the second millennium BCE, as both Jewish and Christian traditions assert, but in the Exilic or Post-Exilic Period (6th Century BCE ~ during or after the Jewish exile in Babylon).

Fact 3: The Book of Genesis contains numerous plagiarized (adopted) myths, all of which find their origins in the more ancient empires of Mesopotamia – The Creation, The Garden of Eden, The Fall of Man, The 12 Patriarchs prior to the flood who all lived extremely long lives, The Flood, the shortening of lifespans after the flood, The Tower of Babel and even Abraham and Sarah’s descent into Egypt (See Descent of Ishtar and Tammuz). This relates to Fact 2, as the Jews were in exile in the very place (Babylon/Chaldea) from which many of these myths in Genesis find their, well, genesis.

Fact 4: The Exodus probably didn’t happen, as there is no archaeological evidence for the 1.2 million people who were alleged to have left Egypt and camped at Mt. Sinai – no Egyptian records, nor any form of historical or archaeological evidence where there should be (archaeological argument from silence), given the circumstances and presence of records prior to and during this alleged event. Also, at the time in which the exodus was alleged to have taken place, Egypt’s entire population was around 3 million, so an exodus of 1.2 million of its free labour force would have crushed Egypt economically, but Egypt continued to reign well after this alleged event.

Fact 5: The Story of Moses being placed in a basket of reeds covered with bitumen was a direct plagiarism (adoption) of the earlier Mesopotamian ruler’s escape from infanticide narrative, Sargon of Babylonia, who was also said to have been placed in a basket of reeds covered with bitumen, plucked from the water, and whom, Akkadian legend holds, went on to become the great law giver of the more ancient Akkadians.

Fact 6: The popular Ten Commandments can be accounted for, almost in their entirely, in the earlier Egyptian ‘Negative Confessions’, located in the ancient Egyptian ‘Book of the Dead’, and many other “Jewish” teachings, including the ‘lex talionis’ (Eye for an eye) were also present in the earlier Babylonian Code of Hammurabi.

Fact 7: Much the so-called ‘Wisdom Literature’ in the Hebrew Bible (Particularly Proverbs), dishonestly represented as direct revelations of the wisdom of the tribal deity of the Israelites, contains sayings and proverbs that were directly taken (in some cases word for word) from earlier Egyptian and Mesopotamian literature.

Fact 8: The birth of the Israel (Joshua’s alleged conquest) has been shown to have been an outright fiction, along with the exaggerated size of the so-called “Kingdom” of David, who may have been, along with Moses and Abraham, a fictional character.

Fact 9: Both the Jerusalem and Babylonian Talmuds (collection of rabbinical discourses that interpret the Torah) are laced with harmful racism, xenophobia, and silly superstitious stories that are almost certainly false.


Fact 10: The religion of Judaism was originally a polytheistic religion and although apologists have tried to argue that the pluralistic epithet ‘Elohim’ (gods) is merely a pluralis Majestatis (majestic we), there are places in the Hebrew Bible that contradict this notion, and this epithet is also applied to the gods of other nations. Judaism only became monotheistic at a relatively late point in history, and it wasn’t the first monotheistic religion. Long before it developed into a monotheistic religion, the ancient Egyptian religion of ‘Atonism’ (worship of the god Aton) existed as a strict monotheistic religion.

Fact 11: The practice of circumcision originated in ancient Egypt. The ancient historian Herodotus informs us that the people of Israel and Palestine adopted this custom from the ancient Egyptians. Also, the practice of circumcision and particularly, the ultra-orthodox practice of ‘metzitzah b’peh,’ (the sucking off of the baby’s partially severed foreskin by an old rabbi) has been responsible for killing numerous infants in recent years, by infecting the infants with herpes.

Fact 12: The Hebrew Bible promotes slavery, genocide, human sacrifice, infanticide, rape, misogyny, murder, the theft of land and property, among other crimes. In the words of Robert G. Ingersoll: “If a man would follow, today, the teachings of the Old Testament, he would be a criminal. If he would follow strictly the teachings of the New, he would be insane.” In other words, the Hebrew Bible is the ancient moral equivalent of Hitler’s Mein Kampf.



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You claim God does not exist . Go and rest na . Your obsession with this God that does not exist tho grin

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Re: Judaism: 12 Painful Facts by menesheh(m): 4:15pm On Dec 03, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


You claim God does not exist . Go and rest na . Your obsession with this God that does not exist tho grin

How is protest going bruh?

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Re: Judaism: 12 Painful Facts by KingEbukasBlog(m): 4:17pm On Dec 03, 2015
menesheh:


How is protest going bruh?

The pro - Biafran protest ? Oh I'm not in the east so I don't know
Re: Judaism: 12 Painful Facts by menesheh(m): 4:18pm On Dec 03, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


The pro - Biafran protest ? Oh I'm not in the east so I don't know

What's your opinion about the protest going.
Re: Judaism: 12 Painful Facts by KingEbukasBlog(m): 4:31pm On Dec 03, 2015
menesheh:


What's your opinion about the protest going.

No comment here . I'm just monitoring the situation .
Re: Judaism: 12 Painful Facts by izsmike: 4:38pm On Dec 03, 2015
My curiosity has bin pricked by this article I need to get the book entitled "5 books of moses"

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Re: Judaism: 12 Painful Facts by menesheh(m): 4:59pm On Dec 03, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


No comment here . I'm just monitoring the situation .


Alright.
Re: Judaism: 12 Painful Facts by OKUCHI11(m): 7:06pm On Dec 03, 2015
such an eye opener
Re: Judaism: 12 Painful Facts by winner01(m): 12:21am On Dec 04, 2015
OKUCHI11:
such an eye opener
Dont believe all you read. Anyone can write anything.
Re: Judaism: 12 Painful Facts by scosco1: 1:50pm On Dec 04, 2015
thought I'd post this for those who may be Christian and believe that Christianity evolved from Judaism; or that Judaism was the religion of the Israelites and, therefore, Jesus Christ. The following should remove any question regarding this matter.

Q: Where did Judaism originate?
A: Babylon

"That sustained, systematic exposition, through one instance after another, of the right reading of the Torah in both its media comes to Israel now as in the past in a single document, the Talmud of Babylonia. That statement of fact describes the centrality of Talmud in the future cirriculum of the Judaic intellect, the priority of the Talmud from the time of its closure in about 600 C.E. to the present time. For 'Judaism' is Rabbinic Judaism, and the Talmud of Babylonia is the authoritive statement of teh Torah that Judaism embodies."
--Rabbi Jacob Neusner, Judaism Discovered, page 27.

"The return from Babylon and the introduction of the Babylonian Talmud mark the end of Hebrewism and the beginning of Judaism.”
--Rabbi Stephen F. Wise, former Chief Rabbi of the United States.

The Jewish historian, Josephus writes: "Jew is the name they are called by from the day that they came up from Babylon.” This means that there were no Jews prior to 536 B.C. nor was there a religion known as Judaism prior to the above date. The only books of the Old Testament that were written after the return from Babylon are, Kings, Chronicles, Ezra and Nehemiah (all of them historical, rather than doctrinal) Haggai, Zechariah and Malachi.
--Dr. Bertrand L. Comparet, Your Heritage: The Bible is Not a Jewish Book.

Q: Is Judaism the religion of the Bible?
A: No.

"This is not an uncommon impression and one finds it sometimes among Jews as well as Christians - that Judaism is the religion of the Hebrew Bible. It is, of course, a fallacious impression. . . Judaism is not the religion of the Bible"
--Rabbi Ben Zion Bokser, Judaism and the Christian Predicament, New York: Alfred A. Knopf, 1967, p. 59.

"The Talmud consists of 63 books of legal, ethical and historical writings of the ancient rabbis. It was edited five centuries after the birth of Jesus. It is a compendium of law and lore. It is the legal code which forms the basis of Jewish law and it is the textbook used in the training of rabbis."
--What is a Jew? Look Magazine, June 17, 1952.

Q: Is Judeo-Christianity a concept found in the Bible?
A: No. It's a lie perpetrated by those wishing to deceive you.

". . . you will notice the great difference between the Jewish and Christian religions. But these are not all. We consider the two religions so different that one excludes the other. . . we emphasized that there is no such thing as a Judeo-Christian religion. . . . There is not any similarity between the two concepts"
--Rabbi Moshe M. Maggal, President, National Jewish Information Service, Letter of August 21, 1961.

Q: Who benefits from your being deceived?
A: Jews.

"I am devoting my lecture in this seminar to a discussion of the possibility that we are now entering a Jewish century, a time when the spirit of the community, the non-idealogical blend of the emotional and rational and the resistance to categories and forms will emerge through the forces of anti-nationalism to provide us with a new kind of society. I call this process the Judaization of Christianity because Christianity will be the vehicle through which this society becomes Jewish"
--Rabbi Martin Siegel, New York Magazine, January 18, 1972, p. 32.

"Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men [Judaism, Babylonian Talmud], after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ?"
--Colossians 2:8

Q: Is Judaism an anti-Christ religion?
A: Yes.

"Fundamentally, Judaism is anti-Christian."
--The London Jewish World, March 15, 1923.
Re: Judaism: 12 Painful Facts by Demmzy15(m): 3:18pm On Dec 04, 2015
menesheh:


Fact 1: The Torah (“Five Books of Moses”), the very pillar of Judaism, wasn’t written by Moses, but by numerous anonymous authors who contradicted one another with regards to theology and history. [1]

Fact 2: The bulk of the Book of Genesis wasn’t written in the second millennium BCE, as both Jewish and Christian traditions assert, but in the Exilic or Post-Exilic Period (6th Century BCE ~ during or after the Jewish exile in Babylon).

Fact 3: The Book of Genesis contains numerous plagiarized (adopted) myths, all of which find their origins in the more ancient empires of Mesopotamia – The Creation, The Garden of Eden, The Fall of Man, The 12 Patriarchs prior to the flood who all lived extremely long lives, The Flood, the shortening of lifespans after the flood, The Tower of Babel and even Abraham and Sarah’s descent into Egypt (See Descent of Ishtar and Tammuz). This relates to Fact 2, as the Jews were in exile in the very place (Babylon/Chaldea) from which many of these myths in Genesis find their, well, genesis.

Fact 4: The Exodus probably didn’t happen, as there is no archaeological evidence for the 1.2 million people who were alleged to have left Egypt and camped at Mt. Sinai – no Egyptian records, nor any form of historical or archaeological evidence where there should be (archaeological argument from silence), given the circumstances and presence of records prior to and during this alleged event. Also, at the time in which the exodus was alleged to have taken place, Egypt’s entire population was around 3 million, so an exodus of 1.2 million of its free labour force would have crushed Egypt economically, but Egypt continued to reign well after this alleged event.

Fact 5: The Story of Moses being placed in a basket of reeds covered with bitumen was a direct plagiarism (adoption) of the earlier Mesopotamian ruler’s escape from infanticide narrative, Sargon of Babylonia, who was also said to have been placed in a basket of reeds covered with bitumen, plucked from the water, and whom, Akkadian legend holds, went on to become the great law giver of the more ancient Akkadians.

Fact 6: The popular Ten Commandments can be accounted for, almost in their entirely, in the earlier Egyptian ‘Negative Confessions’, located in the ancient Egyptian ‘Book of the Dead’, and many other “Jewish” teachings, including the ‘lex talionis’ (Eye for an eye) were also present in the earlier Babylonian Code of Hammurabi.

Fact 7: Much the so-called ‘Wisdom Literature’ in the Hebrew Bible (Particularly Proverbs), dishonestly represented as direct revelations of the wisdom of the tribal deity of the Israelites, contains sayings and proverbs that were directly taken (in some cases word for word) from earlier Egyptian and Mesopotamian literature.

Fact 8: The birth of the Israel (Joshua’s alleged conquest) has been shown to have been an outright fiction, along with the exaggerated size of the so-called “Kingdom” of David, who may have been, along with Moses and Abraham, a fictional character.

Fact 9: Both the Jerusalem and Babylonian Talmuds (collection of rabbinical discourses that interpret the Torah) are laced with harmful racism, xenophobia, and silly superstitious stories that are almost certainly false.


Fact 10: The religion of Judaism was originally a polytheistic religion and although apologists have tried to argue that the pluralistic epithet ‘Elohim’ (gods) is merely a pluralis Majestatis (majestic we), there are places in the Hebrew Bible that contradict this notion, and this epithet is also applied to the gods of other nations. Judaism only became monotheistic at a relatively late point in history, and it wasn’t the first monotheistic religion. Long before it developed into a monotheistic religion, the ancient Egyptian religion of ‘Atonism’ (worship of the god Aton) existed as a strict monotheistic religion.

Fact 11: The practice of circumcision originated in ancient Egypt. The ancient historian Herodotus informs us that the people of Israel and Palestine adopted this custom from the ancient Egyptians. Also, the practice of circumcision and particularly, the ultra-orthodox practice of ‘metzitzah b’peh,’ (the sucking off of the baby’s partially severed foreskin by an old rabbi) has been responsible for killing numerous infants in recent years, by infecting the infants with herpes.

Fact 12: The Hebrew Bible promotes slavery, genocide, human sacrifice, infanticide, rape, misogyny, murder, the theft of land and property, among other crimes. In the words of Robert G. Ingersoll: “If a man would follow, today, the teachings of the Old Testament, he would be a criminal. If he would follow strictly the teachings of the New, he would be insane.” In other words, the Hebrew Bible is the ancient moral equivalent of Hitler’s Mein Kampf.



https://michaelsherlockauthor./2015/10/16/judaism-12-painful-facts/
Parisbookaddict needs to see this!!!
Re: Judaism: 12 Painful Facts by hahn(m): 3:29pm On Dec 04, 2015
scosco1:
thought I'd post this for those who may be Christian and believe that Christianity evolved from Judaism; or that Judaism was the religion of the Israelites and, therefore, Jesus Christ.

So, what was the religion of the Israelis before Jesus Christ?

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Re: Judaism: 12 Painful Facts by Judas2013: 4:55pm On Dec 04, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


You claim God does not exist . Go and rest na . Your obsession with this God that does not exist tho grin

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Re: Judaism: 12 Painful Facts by Rilwayne001: 4:58pm On Dec 04, 2015
Demmzy15:
Parisbookaddict needs to see this!!!

[b] It has often been said, that anything may be proved from the Bible, but before anything can be admitted as proved by the Bible, the Bible itself must be proved to be true; for if the Bible be not true, or the truth of it be doubtful, it ceases to have authority, and cannot be admitted as proof of anything.

It has been the practice of all Christian commentators on the Bible, and of all Christian priests and preachers, to impose the Bible on the world as a mass of truth and as the word of God; they have disputed and wrangled, and anathematized each other about the supposed meaning of particular parts and passages therein; one has said and insisted that such a passage meant such a thing; another that it meant directly the contrary; and a third, that it meant neither one nor the other, but something different from both; and this they call understanding the Bible.

There are matters in that book, said to be done by the express command of God, that are as shocking to humanity and to every idea we have of moral justice as anything done by Sani Abacha, by Adold Hitler in Germany, by the American government under George Bush in the Iraq, or by any other assassin in modern times. When we read in the books ascribed to Moses, Joshua, etc., that they (the Israelites) came by stealth upon whole nations of people, who, as history itself shows, had given them no offence; that they put all those nations to the sword; that they spared neither age nor infancy; that they utterly destroyed men, women, and children; that they left not a soul to breathe- expressions that are repeated over and over again in those books, and that, too, with exulting ferocity- are we sure these things are facts? are we sure that the Creator of man commissioned these things to be done? and are we sure that the books that tell us so were written by his authority?

Truthman2012, parisWEEDaddict, where at thou? [/b]

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Re: Judaism: 12 Painful Facts by Nobody: 5:01pm On Dec 04, 2015
When people use the word "god" they actually unconsciously meant "Elohim",which means "gods"

The stories in the Bible were plagiarized from other books. It is sad to see people believe these stolen stories and form a religion out of it.

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Re: Judaism: 12 Painful Facts by hahn(m): 5:28pm On Dec 04, 2015
1feness:
When people use the word "god" they actually unconsciously meant "Elohim",which means "gods"

The stories in the Bible were plagiarized from other books. It is sad to see people believe these stolen stories and form a religion out of it.


It's not sad, it's creative grin
Re: Judaism: 12 Painful Facts by Demmzy15(m): 5:33pm On Dec 04, 2015
Rilwayne001:


[b] It has often been said, that anything may be proved from the Bible, but before anything can be admitted as proved by the Bible, the Bible itself must be proved to be true; for if the Bible be not true, or the truth of it be doubtful, it ceases to have authority, and cannot be admitted as proof of anything.

It has been the practice of all Christian commentators on the Bible, and of all Christian priests and preachers, to impose the Bible on the world as a mass of truth and as the word of God; they have disputed and wrangled, and anathematized each other about the supposed meaning of particular parts and passages therein; one has said and insisted that such a passage meant such a thing; another that it meant directly the contrary; and a third, that it meant neither one nor the other, but something different from both; and this they call understanding the Bible.

There are matters in that book, said to be done by the express command of God, that are as shocking to humanity and to every idea we have of moral justice as anything done by Sani Abacha, by Adold Hitler in Germany, by the American government under George Bush in the Iraq, or by any other assassin in modern times. When we read in the books ascribed to Moses, Joshua, etc., that they (the Israelites) came by stealth upon whole nations of people, who, as history itself shows, had given them no offence; that they put all those nations to the sword; that they spared neither age nor infancy; that they utterly destroyed men, women, and children; that they left not a soul to breathe- expressions that are repeated over and over again in those books, and that, too, with exulting ferocity- are we sure these things are facts? are we sure that the Creator of man commissioned these things to be done? and are we sure that the books that tell us so were written by his authority?

Truthman2012, parisWEEDaddict, where at thou? [/b]
Very intelligent masterpiece my big bros, the atrocities committed cannot be compared with any terrorist. They were worse than ISIS, Boko-are-rams, etc what's disheartening is that this Christians(esp Malvisguy212) would try and justify those wars? Very disappointing I must say! cc Annunaki, plappville
Re: Judaism: 12 Painful Facts by parisbookaddict(f): 7:58pm On Dec 06, 2015
Demmzy15:
Parisbookaddict needs to see this!!!

Oh really.. but u do know the OPs claims are filled with errors and grossly exaggerated. .. by the way ur prophet endorsed the same bible ( injeel and torah) ..

"Allah" claims to have written the Torah with his own hand:Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said,"Adam and Moses argued with each other.Moses said to Adam. 'O Adam! You are ourfather who disappointed us and turned usout of Paradise.' Then Adam said to him,'O Moses! Allah favored you with His talk(talked to you directly) and HE WROTE(the Torah) for you with HIS OWN HAND.Do you blame me for action which Allah hadwritten in my fate forty years before mycreation?' So Adam confuted Moses, Adamconfuted Moses," the Prophet added,repeating the Statement three times.(Bukhari, 8.77.611)

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger(way peace be upon him) as saying: Therewas an argument between Adam and Moses.Moses said to Adam: You are our father.You did us harm and caused us to get outof Paradise. Adam said to him: You areMoses. Allah selected you (for directconversation with you) and WROTE with HISOWN HAND the Book (Torah) for you.Despite this you blame me for an act whichAllah had ordained for me forty yearsbefore He created me. Allah's Apostle(may peace be upon him) said: This is howAdam came the better of Moses and Adamcame the better of Moses.

(Muslim,33.6409)Abu Hurairah reported the Messenger ofAllah (May peace be upon him) as saying:Adam and Moses held a disputation. Mosessaid: Adam you are our father. Youdeprived us and caused us to come outfrom Paradise. Adam said: You are MosesAllah chose you for his speech and WROTEthe Torah for you WITH HIS HAND. Do youblame me for doing a deed which Allah haddecreed that I should do forty year beforehe created me? So Adam got the better ofMoses in argument. Ahmad b. Salih saidfrom 'Amr from Tawus who heard AbuHurairah. (Abi Dawud, 41.4684)It is hardly surprising then to read thefollowing in Kitab al-Sunna, which manyMuslims believe to have been written by‘Abduallah b. Ahmad, the son of the famedAhmad b. Hanbal, but which in any caseshows how at least some Muslims tookteachings of this sort."Allah wrote the Torah for Moses with Hishand while leaning back on a rock, ontablets of pearl, and the screech of thequill could be heard. There was no veilbetween Him and him," (Vol. 1, p. 294)So, Allah writes two contradictory books:Qur'an and Bible?

If u believe the OPs nonsense then u condemn mohammed ...ahh the paradox of being an ignorant muslim. .
Re: Judaism: 12 Painful Facts by Demmzy15(m): 1:28pm On Dec 08, 2015
parisbookaddict:


Oh really.. but u do know the OPs claims are filled with errors and grossly exaggerated. ..

You could be helpful by showing us the errors and exaggerations, its not too much to ask now!!

by the way ur prophet endorsed the same bible ( injeel and torah) ..

Injeel and Torah is not the same as the bible, we've told you countless of times. Get that into your flat' skull Dammit!!!! angry

[s]"Allah" claims to have written the Torah with his own hand:Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said,"Adam and Moses argued with each other.Moses said to Adam. 'O Adam! You are ourfather who disappointed us and turned usout of Paradise.' Then Adam said to him,'O Moses! Allah favored you with His talk(talked to you directly) and HE WROTE(the Torah) for you with HIS OWN HAND.Do you blame me for action which Allah hadwritten in my fate forty years before mycreation?' So Adam confuted Moses, Adamconfuted Moses," the Prophet added,repeating the Statement three times.(Bukhari, 8.77.611)

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger(way peace be upon him) as saying: Therewas an argument between Adam and Moses.Moses said to Adam: You are our father.You did us harm and caused us to get outof Paradise. Adam said to him: You areMoses. Allah selected you (for directconversation with you) and WROTE with HISOWN HAND the Book (Torah) for you.Despite this you blame me for an act whichAllah had ordained for me forty yearsbefore He created me. Allah's Apostle(may peace be upon him) said: This is howAdam came the better of Moses and Adamcame the better of Moses.

(Muslim,33.6409)Abu Hurairah reported the Messenger ofAllah (May peace be upon him) as saying:Adam and Moses held a disputation. Mosessaid: Adam you are our father. Youdeprived us and caused us to come outfrom Paradise. Adam said: You are MosesAllah chose you for his speech and WROTEthe Torah for you WITH HIS HAND. Do youblame me for doing a deed which Allah haddecreed that I should do forty year beforehe created me? So Adam got the better ofMoses in argument. Ahmad b. Salih saidfrom 'Amr from Tawus who heard AbuHurairah. (Abi Dawud, 41.4684)It is hardly surprising then to read thefollowing in Kitab al-Sunna, which manyMuslims believe to have been written by‘Abduallah b. Ahmad, the son of the famedAhmad b. Hanbal, but which in any caseshows how at least some Muslims tookteachings of this sort."Allah wrote the Torah for Moses with Hishand while leaning back on a rock, ontablets of pearl, and the screech of thequill could be heard. There was no veilbetween Him and him," (Vol. 1, p. 294)So, Allah writes two contradictory books:Qur'an and Bible? [/s]

Biafran mosquito!!! undecided

If u believe the OPs nonsense then u condemn mohammed ...ahh the paradox of being an ignorant muslim. .

I believe everything the op says, remember i presented some for you and you ran away. The plagiarism in the bible, remember? Enuma Elish stuff like that!

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