tonye-t:

@Huxley2,

at least the topic asked it all,

i want the biblical account, i am thru' with the scientific account

10ks

huxley2:

There is NO mention of dinosaurs in the bible. PERIOD. [/b]The bible was written by[b] barbaric tribesmen, about 3000 - 4000 years ago, who knew little about the nature of their environment. Dinosaurs went extinct about 65 million years ago. If the bible mention dinosaurs, I would not expect it to refer to them as creatures living at the time the books were written, but as fossils. But it does neither.

noetic2:

I believe the OP asked for matured and objective debates.

huxley2:

There is NO mention of dinosaurs in the bible. PERIOD. The bible was written by barbaric tribesmen, about 3000 - 4000 years ago, who knew little about the nature of their environment. Dinosaurs went extinct about 65 million years ago. If the bible mention dinosaurs, I would not expect it to refer to them as creatures living at the time the books were written, but as fossils. But it does neither.

donnie:


Well let me leave this background for now and address the issue of dinosaurs. I think the book of job describes this creature even more vividly than any scientist would.

[a]“Can you catch[b] Leviathan[/b] with a hook
      or put a noose around its jaw?
    2 Can you tie it with a rope through the nose
      or pierce its jaw with a spike?
    3 Will it beg you for mercy
      or implore you for pity?
    4 Will it agree to work for you,
      to be your slave for life?
    5 Can you make it a pet like a bird,
      or give it to your little girls to play with?
    6 Will merchants try to buy it
      to sell it in their shops?
    7 Will its hide be hurt by spears
      or its head by a harpoon?
    8 If you lay a hand on it,
      you will certainly remember the battle that follows.
      You won’t try that again!
    9 [c]No, it is useless to try to capture it.
      The hunter who attempts it will be knocked down.
   10 And since no one dares to disturb it,
      who then can stand up to me?
   11 Who has given me anything that I need to pay back?
      Everything under heaven is mine.

   12 “I want to emphasize Leviathan’s limbs
      and its enormous strength and graceful form.
   13 Who can strip off its hide,
      and who can penetrate its double layer of armor?
   14 Who could pry open its jaws?
      For its teeth are terrible!
   15 Its scales are like rows of shields
      tightly sealed together.
   16 They are so close together
      that no air can get between them.
   17 Each scale sticks tight to the next.
      They interlock and cannot be penetrated
   18 “When it sneezes, it flashes light!
      Its eyes are like the red of dawn.
   19 Lightning leaps from its mouth;
      flames of fire flash out.
   20 Smoke streams from its nostrils
      like steam from a pot heated over burning rushes.
   21 Its breath would kindle coals,
      for flames shoot from its mouth.


   22 “The tremendous strength in Leviathan’s neck
      strikes terror wherever it goes.
   23 Its flesh is hard and firm
      and cannot be penetrated.
   24 Its heart is hard as rock,
      hard as a millstone.
   25 When it rises, the mighty are afraid,
      gripped by terror.
   26 No sword can stop it,
      no spear, dart, or javelin.
   27 Iron is nothing but straw to that creature,
      and bronze is like rotten wood.
   28 Arrows cannot make it flee.
      Stones shot from a sling are like bits of grass.
   29 Clubs are like a blade of grass,
      and it laughs at the swish of javelins.
   30 Its belly is covered with scales as sharp as glass.
      It plows up the ground as it drags through the mud.

   31 “Leviathan makes the water boil with its commotion.
      It stirs the depths like a pot of ointment.
   32 The water glistens in its wake,
      making the sea look white.
   33 Nothing on earth is its equal,
      no other creature so fearless.
   34 Of all the creatures, it is the proudest.
      It is the king of beasts.”

mazaje:

the leviathan is a monstrous sea creature according to the bible, are dinosaurs sea creatures? dinosaurs are terrestrial animals not sea creatures. did job live 65 millon years ago? because dinosaurs went extinct about 65 million years ago. so leviathans are not dinosaurs.

noetic2:

where is huxley?

huxley2:

I guess you have found dinosaurs in the bible now, have you?

tonye-t:

prior to now, i have always argued about the true existence of dinosaurs, but some few wks ago i saw on news about an excavated site of dinosaur fossils and skeleton/skeletal structure found somewhere around egypt

it was so real that i was forced to ask myself if dinosaurs really existed and if yes why avnt i come across any account of it in the bible because i feel it is very important to know the age they existed at least to make one firm about the knowledge of the origin of life and other things

pls this thread should not be turned into another athiest conference meeting, lets argue maturedly, i need answers.

God bless you

ttalks:

Apart from the leviathan which donnie pointed out(which actually is the bible's representation of what we call dragons), Job 40:15-23 describes the behemoth which completely fits the description of a dinosaur.
The scientific theory of the earth being millions of years old is wrong as carbon dating is based on three unfounded assumptions.
I started a thread similar to this sometime ago but left it when it wasn't really patronised properly.

tonye-t:

prior to now, i have always argued about the true existence of dinosaurs, but some few wks ago i saw on news about an excavated site of dinosaur fossils and skeleton/skeletal structure found somewhere around egypt

it was so real that i was forced to ask myself if dinosaurs really existed and if yes why avnt i come across any account of it in the bible because i feel it is very important to know the age they existed at least to make one firm about the knowledge of the origin of life and other things

pls this thread should not be turned into another athiest conference meeting, lets argue maturedly, i need answers.

God bless you

davidylan:

you think tonye-t asked this question because he was genuinely interested in dinosaurs? Just another empty head bleating about the bible again . . . ask him to explain how the dinosaurs disappeared and he'd be huffing and panting

tonye-t:


back to the topic:

if the huge creatures are what some refer here to as "DINOSAURS", then how come man survived thru' that era, because from my curious research, it is believed that those creatures were very ferocious and carnivoristic in nature, meaning there was no way man could survive, because even the smallest of the creatures then was as big and fierce as a cheetah

now what i dont seem to understand is, was the bible a comprehensive book of the earth and man's existence here?[/font][/color]

lagerwhenindoubt:

if you follow bible age, then the world is sooo very young, and the universe much younger, does that make sense to ya'all

simmy:

if the bible mentioned dinasours i d be surprised. dinasours didnt exist when the bible was written. dinasours didnt existin the time ofadam, so y should the bible talk about dinasours? the giys who wrote the bible had no knowledgeofdinasours and God didnt think it important to reveal the existense of dinasours

tonye-t:


@OLAADEGBU

(if you assume i am doing this post on purpose then you have to read Prov.14:15)


10ks,i have read thru' the link you provided, but this questions still puzzle me

tonye-t:

1. if huge dinosaurs really existed in during the era of man's existence, how then did this men survive, knowing quite well the nature of this animals

tonye-t:

2. if this creatures were believed to have evolved, what then happened to man and his features ( i aint no evolutionalist mind you)

tonye-t:

3. i read somewhere of someone saying something abt a life that existed b4 the recorded existence of Life thru Adam and Eve, i stand tosay that that account of yours is totally wrong

mazaje:

the leviathan is a monstrous sea creature according to the bible, are dinosaurs sea creatures? dinosaurs are terrestrial animals not sea creatures. did job live 65 millon years ago? because dinosaurs went extinct about 65 million years ago. so leviathans are not dinosaurs.

donnie:

My dear, the levethian just like the Dinosaur is an amphibian; not purely a sea creature. If the levethian did not live on land, how come the scripture describes it as feeding on herbs and spitting/breathing fire from its mouth and nostrils? Did it do all that in water?

These are scriptures some which show what actually happened to the world they lived in(Before Adam):

Isaiah 24:1- Behold, the Lord maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and scaterreth abroad the inhabitants thereof.

Prophetically, this shows us what happened. It was destroyed, turned upside down, made empty and waste (ie. without form and void). Dont forget that no where else in scripture is the earth known to have been without form and void than just before its re-creation (as found in Gen 1:2) .

Isa 24:1 Behold, the LORD makes the earth empty and makes it waste, Distorts its surface And scatters abroad its inhabitants.

Isa 24:2 And it shall be: As with the people, so with the priest; As with the servant, so with his master; As with the maid, so with her mistress; As with the buyer, so with the seller; As with the lender, so with the borrower; As with the creditor, so with the debtor.

Isa 24:3 The land shall be entirely emptied and utterly plundered, For the LORD has spoken this word.

You find the same senario in Jeremiah 4:23-26.

Here it goes on to tell us that there were men inhabiting the earth before its destruction. It also shows that there were cities which were also buried under the earth by God in his anger. This explains the fossils which date to several millions of years ago.

Jer 4:23 I beheld the earth, and indeed [it was] without form, and void; And the heavens, they [had] no light.
Jer 4:24 I beheld the mountains, and indeed they trembled, And all the hills moved back and forth.
Jer 4:25 I beheld, and indeed [there was] no man, And all the birds of the heavens had fled.
Jer 4:26 I beheld, and indeed the fruitful land [was] a wilderness, And all its cities were broken down At the presence of the LORD, By His fierce anger.
Jer 4:27 For thus says the LORD: "The whole land[b] shall[/b] be desolate; Yet[b] I will not make a full end[/b].
Jer 4:28[b] For this shall the earth mourn, And the heavens above be black, Because I have spoken. I have purposed and will not relent, Nor will I turn back from it.[/b]
Jer 4:29 The whole city shall flee from the noise of the horsemen and bowmen. They shall go into thickets and climb up on the rocks. Every city [shall be] forsaken, And not a man shall dwell in it.
Jer 4:30 "And when you are plundered, What will you do? Though you clothe yourself with crimson, Though you adorn [yourself] with ornaments of gold, Though you enlarge your eyes with paint, In vain you will make yourself fair; Your lovers [b]will [/b]despise you; They will seek your life.

donnie:

These are scriptures some which show what actually happened to the world they lived in(Before Adam):

Isaiah 24:1- Behold, the Lord maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and scaterreth abroad the inhabitants thereof.

Prophetically, this shows us what happened. It was destroyed, turned upside down, made empty and waste (ie. without form and void). Dont forget that no where else in scripture is the earth known to have been without form and void than just before its re-creation (as found in Gen 1:2) .

You find the same senario in Jeremiah 4:23-26.

Here it goes on to tell us that there were men inhabiting the earth before its destruction. It also shows that there were cities which were also buried under the earth by God in his anger. This explains the fossils which date to several millions of years ago.