Hello guys!

The purpose of this thread is to let's us Accept Jesus Christ as our Saviour before it's too late! Heaven is real!!!

Do you believe everything happen for a reason? And that we all humans are on this earth plane for one purpose or the other?. I know many will ask that have anyone ever been to heaven or the other and come back to tell us how it like there. But the truth is If by His Grace your spiritual eyes is open just ONCE to see these things that's been Preached over and over again to mankind.

I Came across this while on the net and decide to share with everyone and I believe you'll will desist from all sinful act of this world by the time you finish reading this... And your life will be changed for good ijn!

Culled from: http://www.spiritualresearchfoundation.org/

What happens after death?

Spiritual research has shown that man is comprised of the following four basic bodies:

Physical
Mental
Causal or intellectual
Supracausal or subtle ego
The picture below is a diagrammatic representation of what a human being is comprised of.


When a person dies the physical body ceases to exist. However, the rest of his existence or consciousness continues. The existence of the person minus the physical body is known as the subtle body (linga-dēha) and it comprises of the mental, causal (intellect) and supracausal (subtle ego) bodies. This subtle body then goes to one of the 13 subtle planes of existence other than the Earth plane.

The 14 planes of existence in the Universe

There are 14 main planes of existence in the Universe. Seven of them are positive planes of existence and seven are negative planes of existence. The seven negative planes of existence are commonly known as Hell (Pātāl). There are numerous sub-planes within these main planes of existence.

Righteousness (Dharma) is that which accomplishes the 3 tasks of:
Keeping the social system in excellent condition
Bringing about the worldly progress of every living being
Causing progress in the spiritual realm as well.
– Shri Adi Shankaracharya

Seven positive planes of existence: The planes of existence occupied mostly by living persons and subtle bodies doing righteous deeds and engaged in spiritual practice according to the positive path of spiritual practice are known as the seven positive planes of existence or saptalok. By positive path, we mean the orientation of spiritual practice is towards God-realisation, which is the ultimate in spiritual growth.

The Earth plane is the only physical plane of existence in the Universe and is also the first plane of existence in the hierarchy of the positive planes of existence in the Universe.

Seven Negative planes of existence: These are planes of existence occupied mostly by subtle bodies that have done unrighteous deeds and are engaged in spiritual practice according to the negative path. By negative path, we mean the orientation of spiritual practice is towards attaining spiritual power, e.g. supernatural powers. This spiritual power is primarily used to enhance one’s control over others or for negative purposes. Thus all subtle bodies that go to any one of the planes of existence of Hell, by virtue of their evil intentions become ghosts.

Sub planes of existence of Hell (Narak): Every plane of existence of Hell has a sub-plane known as Narak. For example, the first plane of existence of Hell will have within it a sub-plane that is known as the first Narak. Narak is reserved for the worst ghosts (demons, devils, negative energies, etc.) in Hell. The ghosts (demons, devils, negative energies, etc.) occupying the first Narak face more severe punishment and for a longer duration than those occupying the first plane of existence of Hell.

[s]The diagram below shows the 14 planes of existence in the Universe.[/s]

Please note:

1. For the sake of simplicity, though we have shown the planes of existence one on top of the other in this diagram, in reality they are around us in all directions. It’s just that Earth being the physically tangible plane is seen; whereas the other planes are progressively more and more subtle and hence invisible to the gross eye. In fact different people, though living on the Earth plane experience thoughts and emotions corresponding to the different planes of existence as per their spiritual level or thoughts. For example Saints, i.e. spiritually evolved people beyond the 70% spiritual level, lead an existence corresponding to the positive planes of existence of Heaven and beyond. In contrast a person planning theft experiences thoughts corresponding to the 1st plane of Hell, one planning some act aimed at harming others at 2nd plane of Hell and so on and a person planning murder experiences thoughts corresponding to the 7th plane of Hell. However no 2 planes of existence can be expereinced simultaneously, i.e. a person cannot experience thoughts corresponding to 2 different planes, e.g. Heaven and Mahārlok.

2. The Nether region (Bhuvarlok) to be precise is a region that is aligned away from God. We have however depicted it as a positive plane as subtle bodies from this region still have a chance to be born on Earth to progress spiritually.
Once subtle bodies regress to any of the regions of Hell, then there is a remote possibility of their being born on Earth and progressing towards God.

An explanation behind the colour scheme used

Earth is depicted reddish as it represents action (i.e. subtle basic Raja component), as it is the only plane where we have the physical body to do something.
Heaven has been depicted in pink, which represents an abundance of happiness.
Yellow represents spiritual knowledge and an increase in the subtle basic Sattva component. It finally becomes almost white at the highest stage, which represents the close proximity to the unmanifest God principle.
The regions of Hell are represented by darker shades to black, as there is an increase in the subtle basic Tama component.

Footnotes (based on the numbers in red in the above table):

Each positive and negative plane of existence beyond the Earth (physical) plane of existence becomes more and more subtle. By subtle, we mean, that which is beyond the comprehension of the five senses, mind and intellect. Satyalok is the subtlest, i.e. the most difficult to perceive or comprehend unless the highest sixth sense (ESP) level is attained.
Due to lack of spiritual practice, most people in the current era go to either the Nether world or one of the planes of existence of Hell. We generally go to the Nether world after death when the proportion of demerits (incurred due to wrong doings on Earth) is approximately 30%. Demerits typically include malice towards others and a lot of desires. The likelihood of being attacked in the Nether world by higher-level ghosts from the lower plane of existence of Hell is almost certain.
Earth is the only plane of existence where there is an amalgamation of people with varying spiritual levels. However, after death we go to the precise plane of existence corresponding to our spiritual level.

Samashti spiritual level refers to the spiritual level
attained through spiritual practice for the sake of
society (samashti sādhanā), while vyashti spiritual practice refers to the spiritual level attained through individual spiritual practice (vyashti sādhanā). In the current times, spiritual progress for the sake of society
has 70% importance while individual spiritual practice
has 30% importance.

4.The minimum spiritual level required to attain Heaven after death is 50% (samashṭi) or 60% (vyashṭi). Please refer to the article, which describes what spiritual level is and the breakdown of the world population in 2013 according to spiritual level. Basically from the Spiritual science perspective, meritorious acts to attain Heaven or the higher positive planes of existence are those acts done with the objective of God-realisation. The following three criteria can be applied.
Acts done without doership, i.e. with the outlook that God Himself is getting it done from me and hence I cannot lay claim to any credit.
Done without expectation of acclaim or appreciation.
Done without expectation of results.More than the acts per se, it is the attitude or outlook behind the acts that counts more.

5.To attain a higher plane of existence beyond Heaven one needs to be at a spiritual level higher than 60% ( samashti) or 70% (vyashti). This can only be achieved by consistent spiritual practice according to the six basic laws of spiritual practice along with a major reduction in ego.

6. By predominant body, we mean the body that is most active, i.e., mental, intellect or the subtle ego. For example, in the Nether plane of existence (Bhuvarlok), the subtle bodies still have a lot of desires and attachments. As a result, quite often they become ghosts trying to fulfil some desire of theirs. This leaves them open to higher-level ghosts from the lower rungs of Hell to take advantage of their cravings to affect people on Earth.

7. In the Nether plane of existence we experience some happiness. However, the unhappiness is amplified as compared to the unhappiness experienced on Earth.

8. In Heaven plane of existence, subtle bodies experience an over abundance of happiness. This happiness is much beyond the happiness experienced on Earth in quantity, quality and duration. As we go up the positive planes of existence, there is an increase in the quality of happiness and no unhappiness.

9. Sāttvik happiness means happiness derived from helping others without any expectations or strings attached. When ego is involved in the act, it becomes rājasik.
10. Serenity is a higher experience than Bliss.

3.1 Positive planes of existence and reincarnation on Earth

From the planes of existence below Maharlok, people need to be reincarnated on the Earth plane to settle their destiny and complete their give-and-take accounts.

If one attains Maharlok at the 60% ( samashti) or 70% ( vyashti) spiritual level or attains Janalok at the 70% (samashti) or 80% (vyashti) spiritual level after death, one does not need to be reincarnated as all of the individual’s remaining destiny (accumulated account) can be worked out from these planes themselves. However these evolved subtle bodies may choose to be born of their own will. They do so primarily to act as spiritual guides for humanity.

In some circumstances people who pass away even below the spiritual level of 60% can attain Maharlok. Here the person’s potential for further spiritual growth is considered. Through spiritual research we have found that that there are 5 factors that influence this potential for further spiritual growth.

Having a high amount of spiritual emotion (bhāv),
Having a low ego,
Having an intense desire for spiritual growth,
Doing regular spiritual practice of increasingly higher levels,
Affected or not affected by negative energies.

Being affected by negative energies can severely obstruct the ability for spiritual growth. Hence, if a person is below the 60% (samashti) or 70% (vyashti) spiritual level and has good qualities, but is severely affected by negative energies, then the individual’s ability to attain the higher spiritual planes of existence such as Maharlok is restricted.

If one attains Tapolok or Satyalok after death, then one does not take birth on the Earth plane of existence but continues to do spiritual practice from that plane of existence until one merges completely with God.

3.2 The importance of the Earth plane of existence

The Earth plane of existence is very important. It is the only plane of existence where we can make rapid spiritual growth and settle our give-and-take account in the shortest period of time. The main reason for this is that with the help of the physical body, we can do many things to enhance our spiritual growth and spiritual level and reduce the basic subtle Tama component.

Other than Earth, spiritual growth is mostly likely to occur only in the regions beyond Heaven such as Maharloka etc. This is because in Heaven, the subtle bodies run the risk of getting caught up in the unending pleasures it offers. In the Nether and Hell planes of existence, the punishment is so severe and also the distress from the other higher-level ghosts is such that it becomes very difficult to rise above the suffering to undertake any spiritual practice of value.

4. What is Hell, who goes to Hell and what is Hell like?

•As one goes to lower planes of existence of Hell, as the subtle basic Sattva component progressively reduces the environment becomes less conducive to the experience of happiness.

• Within the planes of existence of Hell, there are some ghosts who do certain types of spiritual practice to gain spiritual power. The highest in the hierarchy of ghosts are sorcerers from the seventh plane of existence of Hell. They have immense spiritual power almost equivalent to a Saint at the 90% spiritual level. They control all the other types of ghosts with lesser spiritual power.

• As one goes deeper into the various planes of existence of Hell, i.e. from 1st to 7th, the extent of happiness experienced by the subtle bodies therein goes on decreasing and the extent of unhappiness goes on multiplying. The minimal experience of happiness is also due to being engrossed in memories of past positive events, pleasant memories of wealth in a past life, etc. The experience of unhappiness is due to memories of physical pain and insulting events, memories of unfulfilled desires, e.g. regarding education, house, career, expectation of happiness from children in past life.

• The extent of punishment/pain to be endured in the various planes of existence of Hell and their associated Narak goes on increasing with the subsequent plane of existence of Hell. Also, the period of punishment to be endured in each Narak is in excess compared to the corresponding plane of existence of Hell. If we consider the punishment in first plane of existence of Hell as 100%, then the punishment in the corresponding first Narak region is 50% more, i.e. 150%.


The following table is a description of examples along with the average intensity of happiness and unhappiness we experience in the various planes of existence of Hell.

To be continue....

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Michealquad:
Hello guys!

The purpose of this thread is to let's us Accept Jesus Christ as our Savior before it's too late! Heaven is real!!!

I took time to read everything you wrote but did not see how Jesus could literally save someone from hell fire. My point being- Jesus isn't a real character. It is only a recycled symbol of the the trapped soul in a human. Accepting Christ means accepting ourselves as equals and Gods we really are. The term God being Electron/the real you who is aware and appears at different places at once.

Do you believe everything happen for a reason? And that we all humans are on this earth plane for one purpose or the other?. I know many will ask that have anyone ever been to heaven or the other and come back to tell us how it like there. But the truth is If by His Grace your spiritual eyes is open just ONCE to see these things that's been Preached over and over again to mankind.

I Came across this while on the net and decide to share with everyone and I believe you'll will desist from all sinful act of this world by the time you finish reading this... And your life will be changed for good ijn!

Culled from: http://www.spiritualresearchfoundation.org/

And besides,you mixed up ancient teachings that existed long before the Jewish version of Jesus was ever born. Was it not said a so called Jesus lived in India at some point in his life? Yeshua actually,and if it is true as many Indian books have described,he definitely learned his trade in India.

Your post made lots of sense to me but I wonder why you decided to merge Christianity with Hindu? The two cannot mix if you add Jesus and hell fire to it.

Michealquad:
What happens after death?

Spiritual research has shown that man is comprised of the following four basic bodies:

Physical
Mental
Causal or intellectual
Supracausal or subtle ego
The picture below is a diagrammatic representation of what a human being is comprised of.

Physical and non-physical. Apart from the physical you mentioned I think the remaining 3 can be merged into one. Is that not what you call a Soul? And the only reason I am separating it from the Physical is because it is an energy of high vibration.-meaning, it spins at a high frequency and cannot be seen by a much slower object. And Intellect,Ego etc are usually attributes a soul does exhibit based on prefence.

When a person dies the physical body ceases to exist. However, the rest of his existence or consciousness continues. The existence of the person minus the physical body is known as the subtle body (linga-dēha) and it comprises of the mental, causal (intellect) and supracausal (subtle ego) bodies. This subtle body then goes to one of the 13 subtle planes of existence other than the Earth plane.

when a person dies he/she might not immediately know they are dead, and he/she might continue trying to live his/her life for a bit without realizing what has happened (explaining ghosts). It person is always in control until he/she realizes he has shed his physical body. And the planes of existence is unlimited and it is absurd to name just 13!

Michealquad:
The 14 planes of existence in the Universe

There are 14 main planes of existence in the Universe. Seven of them are positive planes of existence and seven are negative planes of existence. The seven negative planes of existence are commonly known as Hell (Pātāl). There are numerous sub-planes within these main planes of existence.

Righteousness (Dharma) is that which accomplishes the 3 tasks of:
Keeping the social system in excellent condition
Bringing about the worldly progress of every living being
Causing progress in the spiritual realm as well.
– Shri Adi Shankaracharya

Seven positive planes of existence: The planes of existence occupied mostly by living persons and subtle bodies doing righteous deeds and engaged in spiritual practice according to the positive path of spiritual practice are known as the seven positive planes of existence or saptalok. By positive path, we mean the orientation of spiritual practice is towards God-realisation, which is the ultimate in spiritual growth.

The Earth plane is the only physical plane of existence in the Universe and is also the first plane of existence in the hierarchy of the positive planes of existence in the Universe.

Seven Negative planes of existence: These are planes of existence occupied mostly by subtle bodies that have done unrighteous deeds and are engaged in spiritual practice according to the negative path. By negative path, we mean the orientation of spiritual practice is towards attaining spiritual power, e.g. supernatural powers. This spiritual power is primarily used to enhance one’s control over others or for negative purposes. Thus all subtle bodies that go to any one of the planes of existence of Hell, by virtue of their evil intentions become ghosts.

All good and well....everyone is a God at the end of the day. Negative and Positive are important to keep balance. Spiritual practices or no spiritual practices,the Soul remains what it is. Negative and Positive experiences are illusion of the mind. Its like playing a role of a bad guy in a movie,which doesn't make you bad in reality. It is only an experience.

Michealquad:
Sub planes of existence of Hell (Narak): Every plane of existence of Hell has a sub-plane known as Narak. For example, the first plane of existence of Hell will have within it a sub-plane that is known as the first Narak. Narak is reserved for the worst ghosts (demons, devils, negative energies, etc.) in Hell. The ghosts (demons, devils, negative energies, etc.) occupying the first Narak face more severe punishment and for a longer duration than those occupying the first plane of existence of Hell.

[s]The diagram below shows the 14 planes of existence in the Universe.[/s]

Hell fire is not a plane or place. However some people can create an illusion of it for themselves,but then they will realize it is as a result of negative teaching and thoughts.

This illustration was given to the ancient/primitive Indians. Just like the ancient Jews,due to their wild nature to act nicely. At this point of our human development we do not need these form of teaching anymore. I think it causes fear.

Michealquad:
•As one goes to lower planes of existence of Hell, as the subtle basic Sattva component progressively reduces the environment becomes less conducive to the experience of happiness.

• Within the planes of existence of Hell, there are some ghosts who do certain types of spiritual practice to gain spiritual power. The highest in the hierarchy of ghosts are sorcerers from the seventh plane of existence of Hell. They have immense spiritual power almost equivalent to a Saint at the 90% spiritual level. They control all the other types of ghosts with lesser spiritual power.

• As one goes deeper into the various planes of existence of Hell, i.e. from 1st to 7th, the extent of happiness experienced by the subtle bodies therein goes on decreasing and the extent of unhappiness goes on multiplying. The minimal experience of happiness is also due to being engrossed in memories of past positive events, pleasant memories of wealth in a past life, etc. The experience of unhappiness is due to memories of physical pain and insulting events, memories of unfulfilled desires, e.g. regarding education, house, career, expectation of happiness from children in past life.

• The extent of punishment/pain to be endured in the various planes of existence of Hell and their associated Narak goes on increasing with the subsequent plane of existence of Hell. Also, the period of punishment to be endured in each Narak is in excess compared to the corresponding plane of existence of Hell. If we consider the punishment in first plane of existence of Hell as 100%, then the punishment in the corresponding first Narak region is 50% more, i.e. 150%.


The following table is a description of examples along with the average intensity of happiness and unhappiness we experience in the various planes of existence of Hell.

I do not really think you are a christian though. You have been thinking and searching for answers in other religion . There are no answers in Christianity just rules. What is obvious to me is christian values were borrowed from other existing religion just like you are doing.