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Re: Nigerian Churches And The Culture Of Extreme Exploitation by urahara(m): 5:53pm On Jan 17, 2016 |
dearpreye: Which Parish do you attend |
Re: Nigerian Churches And The Culture Of Extreme Exploitation by smithoo(m): 5:55pm On Jan 17, 2016 |
The GO of RCCG last year Ministers conference banned any form of honorarium to any visiting pastor and he even placed a curse to the giver and receiver of such. If you look at the activities of our men of God, you wouldn't serve God. In your anger, do not sin. Keep your focus on God and do what is right in the sight of God. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Nigerian Churches And The Culture Of Extreme Exploitation by Nobody: 5:55pm On Jan 17, 2016 |
urahara: A parish under Province 7. |
Re: Nigerian Churches And The Culture Of Extreme Exploitation by Nobody: 5:58pm On Jan 17, 2016 |
dearpreye:I'm quite surprised at some things I'm reading here though. This is extreme. Well, that goodness your senses are still intact. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Nigerian Churches And The Culture Of Extreme Exploitation by Nobody: 6:00pm On Jan 17, 2016 |
urahara:He existed......and still exists. 4 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Nigerian Churches And The Culture Of Extreme Exploitation by urahara(m): 6:00pm On Jan 17, 2016 |
dearpreye:OK. So which church are you thinking of going to now |
Re: Nigerian Churches And The Culture Of Extreme Exploitation by Candour(m): 6:02pm On Jan 17, 2016 |
smithoo: Really? If he truly did that, then its a step in the right direction. Does that mean the OP's pastor is trying to play a fast one on the members? Cc: dearpreye 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Nigerian Churches And The Culture Of Extreme Exploitation by Nobody: 6:26pm On Jan 17, 2016 |
Candour: Are you kidding me? I'll do some research on it and then confront my pastor with the truth. .... |
Re: Nigerian Churches And The Culture Of Extreme Exploitation by Nobody: 6:27pm On Jan 17, 2016 |
smithoo: That's for the information, brother/sister. The honorarium thing is madness... |
Re: Nigerian Churches And The Culture Of Extreme Exploitation by Nobody: 6:28pm On Jan 17, 2016 |
urahara: Hahahaha. I've not decided yet. |
Re: Nigerian Churches And The Culture Of Extreme Exploitation by kaboninc(m): 6:32pm On Jan 17, 2016 |
dearpreye: I've seen another religious organization where the parish remits 70% of 'offerings' and retain 30%. They then solicit for funds from private well to do individuals support, organize fund raising events etc. The contributions were to see that a befitting HQ structure was erected and put into good use. So after the building has been completed, the funds remitted is to be used to maintain it. As for our country, only if we will genuinely canvas for equitable and just distribution of wealth. My brother, the corruption is just too much. Even those claiming to be saints today, as soon as they get in or their protégé gets in, story changes. We just have to keep pushing for good governance. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Nigerian Churches And The Culture Of Extreme Exploitation by Nobody: 6:36pm On Jan 17, 2016 |
kaboninc: Where do we start from? The voices of reason are so faint when compared to that of those who mindlessly swallow everything. I'm so saddened.......we'll keep asking questions. My parish remits 70% of everything we generate. The emphasis is so much on the said returns that pastors even add their own personal money to make up for the expectations from the top. Merchandise. 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Churches And The Culture Of Extreme Exploitation by kaboninc(m): 6:48pm On Jan 17, 2016 |
dearpreye: Truth is that even the GO may not be aware of these things because he's so guarded that its almost impossible if not difficult to get across to him. Just like our president. Only if he spends time to find out what his subjects say about his government especially the opposition. You know, we always love to be told things that soothe us in as much as it may not be the truth. Only if our senators can make out time to find out what the people he represents says of their needs. It was said of a certain Prime Minister or President who boarded a taxi and engaged the taxi driver on issues affecting him and his country - just to get his view. In today's world oh. Even the taxi guy no know say na the PM be that. They just flowed and connected. Do you know how much the PM must have learnt from that conversation? 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Churches And The Culture Of Extreme Exploitation by Nobody: 6:55pm On Jan 17, 2016 |
kaboninc: Yes. It's a possibility. But exploitation of this magnitude couldn't have continued without some very top brass perpetuating it. Someone here said that the GO has already uttered a statement cancelling the act- I just don't know how true it is at the moment. We have a culture of extreme pandering. We have a taste for extreme stupid show of humility and loyalty even when the truth should have been said. I believe our leaders are so used to us that they need not anyone to tell them about our sufferings. The people are the problem. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Nigerian Churches And The Culture Of Extreme Exploitation by Nobody: 7:41pm On Jan 17, 2016 |
Ishilove:How many times/churches will change? It happens in almost all the Churches. Church that are suppose to provide for the poors are now exploiting the poor and less privilages in the name of sowing seed for God to bless you. I think kachisbarbie has just nailed it. 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Churches And The Culture Of Extreme Exploitation by vooks: 7:47pm On Jan 17, 2016 |
Candour: Candour: Candour on fire! |
Re: Nigerian Churches And The Culture Of Extreme Exploitation by vooks: 7:49pm On Jan 17, 2016 |
dearpreye: I have a simple idea Start your church free from all the perceived ills of RCCG |
Re: Nigerian Churches And The Culture Of Extreme Exploitation by Nobody: 7:57pm On Jan 17, 2016 |
vooks: What do you mean by ' perceived?' |
Re: Nigerian Churches And The Culture Of Extreme Exploitation by hahn(m): 8:28pm On Jan 17, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: *yawns* LIC |
Re: Nigerian Churches And The Culture Of Extreme Exploitation by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:48pm On Jan 17, 2016 |
hahn: |
Re: Nigerian Churches And The Culture Of Extreme Exploitation by kevoh(m): 9:11pm On Jan 17, 2016 |
Salient points so far : dearpreye: Candour: Candour: This part below got me cracking... dearpreye: 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Churches And The Culture Of Extreme Exploitation by Nobody: 9:20pm On Jan 17, 2016 |
kevoh: My yoke is easy and my burden is light. Sadly, man has added to those words. Na serious matter ooo |
Re: Nigerian Churches And The Culture Of Extreme Exploitation by smithoo(m): 10:18pm On Jan 17, 2016 |
1st of August 2015 Ministers conference. Our GO practically put an end to honorarium. Any pastor giving and collecting honorarium is under a curse. Collecting honorarium is denying parishes or churches the needed fund carry out day to day running of parish activities. I rest my case. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Nigerian Churches And The Culture Of Extreme Exploitation by Assassin419(m): 10:30pm On Jan 17, 2016 |
Religion is just one big scam. Pastor Adeboye said he drove a car without fuel from Ore to Lagos... Anybody who believes that rubbish lie can easily be defrauded. 6 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Churches And The Culture Of Extreme Exploitation by cloudgoddess(f): 11:24pm On Jan 17, 2016 |
hahn: |
Re: Nigerian Churches And The Culture Of Extreme Exploitation by vooks: 5:40am On Jan 18, 2016 |
dearpreye:Get busy with Google son |
Re: Nigerian Churches And The Culture Of Extreme Exploitation by plaetton: 8:15am On Jan 18, 2016 |
dearpreye: Rccg is a very successful business franchise. That's what it is. A business franchise. Let me tell you another fraud you might not be aware of. Rccg pastors pool church money together to finance not only their personal joint venture businesses, but also finance LPOs for those willing to pay up to 50% interest. It doesn't matter the business, as long as you can pay the interest. The church members are not aware and certainly don't qualify for the loans. I have personally run into and dealt with a few of them in the course of business. This is both usury and simony, the most immoral sin one can commit against the body the church of Jesus Christ. 7 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Nigerian Churches And The Culture Of Extreme Exploitation by Annunaki(m): 8:35am On Jan 18, 2016 |
plaetton: Preach on Pastor Plaetton 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Churches And The Culture Of Extreme Exploitation by Nobody: 9:23am On Jan 18, 2016 |
plaetton: Now this is seriously criminal. I've never heard of others before now. I can now understand why religion subtly forbids one from deploying common sense. It only thrives on the gullibility of the people. Men, I'm just furious as to how we've turned Christianity into a full time merchandise. 2 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Churches And The Culture Of Extreme Exploitation by Candour(m): 9:57am On Jan 18, 2016 |
vooks: Dear vooks, how are u doing bro? These our mog never stop in their determination to bring Christianity into ridicule. Imagine the brazen exploitation? |
Re: Nigerian Churches And The Culture Of Extreme Exploitation by babajeje123(m): 10:33am On Jan 18, 2016 |
dearpreye: @Op, I share in your pains. I'm also a Redeemed member and a minister as well. Most of the things that are happening in our parishes, areas and province are unknown to daddy G.O and they don't go down well with me also. Recently, I got to know that 77% of ministers' tithes and offerings are been remitted to the Province. I was so mad with this. It is contrary to what the Bible says. When I questioned my pastor and my wife, who is the remittance officer, they gave me some unwelcome reasons. I searched my Bible again and I was so fortunate to discover what God wants us to do with our tithes and made up my mind to obey God. I will suggest you don't leave Redeemed now. You know why? It is the same thing everywhere. Most churches are been managed now based on personal belief and principles which they called Doctrines. Any doctrine that can not be found in the Bible is just a personal opinion. My advice, get the Word of God, believe it, live it and you will be saved from avoidable pains and enjoy your life to the fullest. 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Nigerian Churches And The Culture Of Extreme Exploitation by Nobody: 1:45pm On Jan 18, 2016 |
babajeje123:Thank you for the above. I'm already tired. |
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