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Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Elimination stage -Winner 2: Abu Zaria by Abuklaw(m): 8:33pm On Jan 24, 2016 |
naijadeyhia:Note that I said at the end of my essay that until the weaknesses discussed in the essay are taken care of, PPPs will never see the light of the day. That means the government that is tackling corruption head on should exercise patience before adopting PPPs until the weaknesses are eliminated or reduced to the bearest minimum. |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Elimination stage -Winner 2: Abu Zaria by Obinoscopy(m): 8:35pm On Jan 24, 2016 |
Catalyst4real:So are you saying that Remita isn't increasing the nation's wealth? The FG intends using the funds generated from Remita to fund part of it's 2016 budget, a wong move? |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Elimination stage -Winner 2: Abu Zaria by Catalyst4real: 8:44pm On Jan 24, 2016 |
Obinoscopy:Who pays Remita? Both public and private institutions pay Remita. But the private institutions pay higher, and because they have to pay higher, they continuosly charge higher. Who bears the real burden? Consumers. You and I Is that your definition of "Generating revenue?" |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Elimination stage -Winner 2: Abu Zaria by penplayer: 8:44pm On Jan 24, 2016 |
Abuklaw: Government is not entirely excused from building infrastructures. They are just being aided by private firms. I mentioned that Nigeria's government is not rich enough to create all the infrastructures Nigeria Needs. A failled PPP is borne by private firms and not the government please. So the question of image doesn't apply here. The private firms bear all the risk. As for lekki toll fee. Not every government decision goes down well with the populace and I'll assume it's one of such. |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Elimination stage -Winner 2: Abu Zaria by Obinoscopy(m): 8:46pm On Jan 24, 2016 |
penplayer:Ok, your response has been noted. Weldone |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Elimination stage -Winner 2: Abu Zaria by Abuklaw(m): 8:48pm On Jan 24, 2016 |
adeaks:The answer here is plain. Even though the masses are aware of the benefits of PPPs, there is nothing we can do to adopt it unless government wants to. I haven't seen a nation where her denizens implement a policy without government backing. Until the government is competent in the area of technical knowledge of PPPs, their is nothing Nigerians can do about it. How about the taxpayers demanding that our government should educate themselves by "carefully studying the intricacies involved in such initiative" (to use your own words)Precedence plays an important role in decision making. Nigerians have seen PPPs failed before in our dear country. Nigerians are realistic, they will want to see the element of PPPs efficiency before clamouring for it. Should we continue to deprive ourselves of good things because the government that we voted in is not ready to learn the rules and regulations, ethics and practices applicable in PPP?As I said above, there is nothing we can do to implement PPP if our government isn't morally, technically and diligently ready to practice the real PPPs. What is your response to this?I have in my limited way answered your question. I believe you are convinced now that we just "tool in the hand of the maker." We cannot help situation unless our government is ready to take lead position. |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Elimination stage -Winner 2: Abu Zaria by Fynestboi: 8:49pm On Jan 24, 2016 |
I guess we are on Frontpage now, audience compile your questions, to be unleash in the next 15mins... |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Elimination stage -Winner 2: Abu Zaria by Obinoscopy(m): 8:50pm On Jan 24, 2016 |
Catalyst4real:Thanks Catalyst4real for responding to my questions. Although you answered some of my questions with a question (which is not okay), I'd still say you did good. Weldone. |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Elimination stage -Winner 2: Abu Zaria by Fynestboi: 8:55pm On Jan 24, 2016 |
Participants ensure you leave no questions unattended to as this will reflect on your score. Penplayer Abuklaw Catalyst4real |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Elimination stage -Winner 2: Abu Zaria by Abuklaw(m): 8:57pm On Jan 24, 2016 |
penplayer:I wonder if you were not in Nigeria when the populace criticized GEJ administration for the failed Lagos/Ibadan expressway's concession agreement. Please get your fact right. Failed PPP has an huge political implication on the government of a country. It is actually one of the reasons why countries do bidding, tendering and negotiation before selecting a concessioner. |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Elimination stage -Winner 2: Abu Zaria by Catalyst4real: 8:58pm On Jan 24, 2016 |
penplayer:I disagree with you sir In the private-public partnership, the government finances the contracts. How then can you say the government is not rich enough to finance infractures in Nigeria themselves? When in the real sense. The financial workload lies on the government |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Elimination stage -Winner 2: Abu Zaria by Fynestboi: 9:03pm On Jan 24, 2016 |
Amiable judges I believe we are good to go? Adeaks, Naijadeyhia, Obinoscopy. If Yes, kindly forward the result to Nairalandinterschooldebate@gmail.com. Then I think audience can now ask the participants questions.... |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Elimination stage -Winner 2: Abu Zaria by penplayer: 9:04pm On Jan 24, 2016 |
Abuklaw: Oh yes. If a partner fails in its term of agreement, the image of the government in that sense will be at stake since the government takes the credit for the completion of the project. In that sense I'll admit because the future is uncertain and chances are that a partner will fail in its part. |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Elimination stage -Winner 2: Abu Zaria by Nobody: 9:04pm On Jan 24, 2016 |
Abuklaw: Nice one. However, are you not approbating and reprobating at once?In your essay you said Nigerians should say NO to PPP. Now you are saying Nigerians will want to see the efficiency of PPP before clamouring for it. The pertinent question then is; how can we see the element of PPP's efficiency if we are already saying NO to it like you earlier advocated. |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Elimination stage -Winner 2: Abu Zaria by penplayer: 9:08pm On Jan 24, 2016 |
Catalyst4real: The partnership is meaningless if the project's are financed by the government. Just stop please. Your essay arguments were pointed otherwise. . If the government is rich enough, why is Nigeria in debt and still on the brink of another. Nigeria can not finance every infrastructure that she needs to reach international standards. That's why we borrow to make up and we are suggesting PPP to ensure debts are reduced by having Private firms build infrastructures. |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Elimination stage -Winner 2: Abu Zaria by penplayer: 9:10pm On Jan 24, 2016 |
At this point I can say I'm outta this contest since my partner couldn't show up for reasons best known to him. Just a bit disappointed. |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Elimination stage -Winner 2: Abu Zaria by Fynestboi: 9:13pm On Jan 24, 2016 |
Nice one. Participants rebuttal still on alongside judges questioning and now we have in addition. Audience Questions 30mins left for all these. |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Elimination stage -Winner 2: Abu Zaria by Abuklaw(m): 9:19pm On Jan 24, 2016 |
adeaks:Note that my arguement is based on the present situation in our dear country. Nigerians are saying NO now due to the precarious condition we found ourself at the moment but we are already to shift ground when our fears are allayed and doubts cleared. until then, we will continue to protest against its implementation in our present inconducive environment. |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Elimination stage -Winner 2: Abu Zaria by Catalyst4real: 9:19pm On Jan 24, 2016 |
penplayer:Keep your aggresuon aside and argue reasonably please. Assuming the PPP is approved in Nigeria, the private corporations are expected to finance themselves right? So the government won't have to borrow revenue right? Extremely myopic statement you made up there, either public-private or public-public partnership, one thing remains the same, the revenue still comes from the government. The basis of this argument is "Efficiency" If PPP is an efficient way of building infrastructure in Nigeria, that is the argument. And based on the indelible arguments my partner and I have laid down, you just got served |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Elimination stage -Winner 2: Abu Zaria by penplayer: 9:29pm On Jan 24, 2016 |
Catalyst4real: I'm not being aggressive and I'm sorry if I sound like that. I was telling you that PPP is majorly financed by the private sector. How is the money coming from the government again. Or are private firms funded by the government? I've listed the efficiency in the essay I submitted and unfortunately my partner didnt show up. As for getting served. This is a debate. I have tried to give explanations and managed to concede when facts are glaring. we're here to rub minds together. I won't stick blindly to my opinion if infallible facts point otherwise. I'm not that kind of debater. |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Elimination stage -Winner 2: Abu Zaria by Catalyst4real: 9:39pm On Jan 24, 2016 |
penplayer:Alright, you did sound aggressive though, sorry about your partner. |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Elimination stage -Winner 2: Abu Zaria by Abuklaw(m): 9:42pm On Jan 24, 2016 |
Catalyst4real:omo see punchline. 1 Like |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Elimination stage -Winner 2: Abu Zaria by abiola081(m): 9:44pm On Jan 24, 2016 |
@penplayer...really feel ur pain bro...wish there is any way I can help you out...am so proud of you... AMA LADOKITE 3 Likes |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Elimination stage -Winner 2: Abu Zaria by penplayer: 9:49pm On Jan 24, 2016 |
Catalyst4real: Lol. I dunno. abiola081:Where were you? I could shoot you. Thanks anyway. It's over. This is the elimination stage and losers here get relegated. There's no way My points can beat the duo. Same thing happened in the first stage. My first partner didn't show up Catalyst4real: Lol. I dunno. |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Elimination stage -Winner 2: Abu Zaria by Fynestboi: 9:57pm On Jan 24, 2016 |
Participants can conclude their argument... Penplayer Abuklaw Catalyst4real |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Elimination stage -Winner 2: Abu Zaria by Fynestboi: 10:02pm On Jan 24, 2016 |
Thank you all for your time. Result loading..... |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Elimination stage -Winner 2: Abu Zaria by Fynestboi: 10:08pm On Jan 24, 2016 |
Due to the unavoidable absent of one of the team for Lautech, it is obvious that ABU ZARIA will be the winner for this stage, however it's pertinent I unveil the score of each participants, for subsequent stages and editions. Hence I will be posting the score per participants. Congratulations ABU ZARIA.. Thread lock while I post the score. |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Elimination stage -Winner 2: Abu Zaria by Fynestboi: 10:08pm On Jan 24, 2016 |
Due to the unavoidable absent of one of the team for Lautech, it is obvious that ABU ZARIA will be the winner for this stage, however it's pertinent I unveil the score of each participants, for subsequent stages and editions. Hence I will be posting the score per participants. Congratulations ABU ZARIA.. |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Elimination stage -Winner 2: Abu Zaria by luxanne(f): 10:15pm On Jan 24, 2016 |
penplayer: So sorry you had to go through this again, wished it didn't happen. But common, cheer up OK, you did great taking on those two by yourself, some folks would have developed cold feet and ran off but you didn't, Lool give yourself some credit will you And I still have my whip waiting for that team mate of yours, he better don't cross my path on here Lool 2 Likes |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Elimination stage -Winner 2: Abu Zaria by Fynestboi: 10:18pm On Jan 24, 2016 |
Waiting.... |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Elimination stage -Winner 2: Abu Zaria by penplayer: 10:19pm On Jan 24, 2016 |
luxanne: Thanks for the kind words. I'll probably kill him too. He didn't pick nor return my calls. And he promised to write even if I have to edit for him. That's all gone tho. I may be out but I'll still watch from the sidelines. |
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