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Re: Are Dictatorships and Majority-Muslim Countries Leading in Human Trafficking? by Nobody: 1:20am On Jul 02, 2009
osisi, please tell me, since your TRUE agenda is not based on your worries over human rights( you have never started a thread on human rights in china for instance) but your obssession with Islam. oya, what exactly is the stand of the er religion of love' on slavery?
Re: Are Dictatorships and Majority-Muslim Countries Leading in Human Trafficking? by sosisi(f): 2:20am On Jul 02, 2009
oyb:

osisi, please tell me, since your TRUE agenda is not based on your worries over human rights( you have never started a thread on human rights in china for instance) but your obssession with Islam. oya, what exactly is the stand of the er religion of love' on slavery?

Chinese are not a world menace bombing and slaughtering people outside of China
Islamists are
and they are in my country in large numbers too
Re: Are Dictatorships and Majority-Muslim Countries Leading in Human Trafficking? by JJYOU: 10:51am On Jul 02, 2009
oyb:

osisi, please tell me, since your TRUE agenda is not based on your worries over human rights( you have never started a thread on human rights in china for instance) but your obssession with Islam. oya, what exactly is the stand of the er religion of love' on slavery?
lame o lame. you dont get it do you?

@ richy
[size=15pt]The moderation around here sucks. RichyBlack is biased. Period[/size].
this is so true

this film is sad but one has learnt not to expet anything better from bin musrtafa nephews and cousins.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7694381.stm

one of the first thing i learnt in europe many moons ago was how horrible the islamic slave masters treated black people.  never knew even a kanuri or a fulani cattle patrol guard tot he was higher than a black man in life's ladder.
Re: Are Dictatorships and Majority-Muslim Countries Leading in Human Trafficking? by JustGood(m): 11:04am On Jul 02, 2009
JJYOU:


one of the first thing i learnt in europe many moons ago was how horrible the islamic slave masters treated black people. never knew even a kanuri or a fulani cattle patrol guard tot he was higher than a black man in life's ladder.

This is why I get annoyed with Uncle Toms and those who would not mind their whole generation being ridiculed just on the grounds of self aggrandisement. . . e.g. 419 scammers and those stupid girls in Italy and Spain and Holland too.
Re: Are Dictatorships and Majority-Muslim Countries Leading in Human Trafficking? by muhsin(m): 12:11pm On Jul 02, 2009
$osisi,

Sannu da aiki, Jaka. grin You'll never succeed in all your actions and inaction of denting the image of Islam and Muslims, for you cannot. Millions have had tried before you and more will. But, by God's grace, in vain. Mahaukaciyar kawai. cheesy
Re: Are Dictatorships and Majority-Muslim Countries Leading in Human Trafficking? by Nobody: 1:42pm On Jul 02, 2009
JJYOU:

lame o lame. you dont get it do you?

@ richy this is so true

this film is sad but one has learnt not to expet anything better from bin musrtafa nephews and cousins.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7694381.stm

one of the first thing i learnt in europe many moons ago was how horrible the islamic slave masters treated black people.  never knew even a kanuri or a fulani cattle patrol guard tot he was higher than a black man in life's ladder.

oga, neither you nor your matriarch answered on your religion of love's stand on slavery. cat got your tongue? tongue

pele. i read roots back in primary school. you need to read up on how the christians treated slaves . if that is too hard for you, you can watch roots. tongue
Re: Are Dictatorships and Majority-Muslim Countries Leading in Human Trafficking? by sosisi(f): 2:40pm On Jul 02, 2009
muhsin:

$osisi,

Sannu da aiki, Jaka. grin You'll never succeed in all your actions and inaction of denting the image of Islam and Muslims, for you cannot. Millions have had tried before you and more will. But, by God's grace, in vain. Mahaukaciyar kawai. cheesy

I kpo m iyi ebea a nkpuru amu agbawa sia gi grin
kitikpa ara chaa gi anya
Re: Are Dictatorships and Majority-Muslim Countries Leading in Human Trafficking? by sosisi(f): 2:43pm On Jul 02, 2009
oyb:

oga, neither you nor your matriarch answered on your religion of love's stand on slavery. cat got your tongue? tongue

pele. i read roots back in primary school. you need to read up on how the christians treated slaves . if that is too hard for you, you can watch roots. tongue

does that justify Islamic wickedness to slaves?
and why are you folks always thousands of years behind in everything?
slavery ended in the 19th century,18th in England
why is it that in the 21st century your folks are still trading in slaves even in your holy land
sleeping with slave girls like MO did
get with the times
Re: Are Dictatorships and Majority-Muslim Countries Leading in Human Trafficking? by sosisi(f): 3:02pm On Jul 02, 2009
The first American movement to abolish slavery came in the spring of 1688 when German and Dutch Quakers of Mennonite descent in Germantown, Pennsylvania (now part of Philadelphia) wrote a two-page condemnation of the practice and sent it to the governing bodies of their Quaker church, the Society of Friends. Though the Quaker establishment took no immediate action, the 1688 Germantown Quaker Petition Against Slavery, was an unusually early, clear and forceful argument against slavery and initiated the process of banning slavery in the Society of Friends (1776) and Pennsylvania(1780).


Thomas Paine (1737–1805), whose 1775 article "African Slavery in America" was the first article published in what would become the United States which advocated abolishing slavery and freeing the slaves.The Society for the Relief of Free Negroes Unlawfully Held in Bondage was the first American abolition society, formed 14 April 1775, in Philadelphia, primarily by Quakers who had strong religious objections to slavery. Rhode Island Quakers, associated with Moses Brown, co-founder of Brown University [1], and who also settled at Uxbridge, Massachusetts prior to 1770, were among the first in America to free slaves. The society ceased to operate during the Revolution and the British occupation of Philadelphia. After the Revolution, it was reorganized in 1784, with Benjamin Franklin as its first president.[9] Benjamin Rush was another leader, as were many Quakers. John Woolman gave up most of his business in 1756 to devote himself to campaigning against slavery along with other Quakers.[10] The first article published in what later became the United States advocating the emancipation of slaves and the abolition of slavery was written by Thomas Paine. Titled "African Slavery in America", it appeared on 8 March 1775 in the Postscript to the Pennsylvania Journal and Weekly Advertiser, more popularly known as The Pennsylvania Magazine, or American Museum.[11]


[edit] Abolitionist Movement
The Abolitionist Movement set in motion actions in every state to abolish slavery. By 1804, abolitionists succeeded in passing legislation eventually emancipate the slaves in every state north of the Ohio River and the Mason-Dixon Line. However, emancipation in the free states was so gradual that there were still a dozen "permanent apprentices" in the 1860 census.


John Jay (1745–1829), who founded the New York Manumission Society in 1785.The principal organized bodies to advocate this reform were the Society of Friends, the Pennsylvania Antislavery Society and the New York Manumission Society. The last was headed by powerful Federalist politicians: John Jay, Alexander Hamilton and Republican Aaron Burr. Thanks to the considerable efforts of the NYMS, New York abolished slavery (gradually) in 1799. In terms of numbers of slaves, this was the largest emancipation in American history (before 1863). New Jersey in 1804 was the last northern state to abolish slavery (again in gradual fashion). At the Constitutional Convention of 1787, agreement was reached that allowed the Federal government to abolish the international slave trade, but not prior to 1808. By that time, all the states had passed individual laws abolishing or severely limiting the trade, all but Georgia by 1798; some of the Southern laws were later repealed.[12]

After the American Revolutionary War, Quaker and Moravian advocates helped persuade numerous slaveholders in the Upper South to free their slaves. Manumissions increased for nearly two decades. Many individual acts of manumission freed thousands of slaves in total. Slaveholders freed slaves in such number that the percentage of free Negroes in the Upper South increased sharply from one to ten percent, with most of that increase in Virginia, Maryland and Delaware. By 1810 three-quarters of blacks in Delaware were free. The most notable of individuals was Robert Carter III of Virginia, who freed more than 450 people by "Deed of Gift", filed in 1791. This number was more slaves than any single American had freed or would ever free.[13] Often slaveholders came to their decisions by their own struggles in the Revolution; their wills and deeds frequently cited language about the equality of men supporting their manumissions. Slaveholders were also encouraged to do so because the economics of the area was changing. They were shifting from labor-intensive tobacco culture to mixed crop cultivation and did not need as many slaves.[14]

The free black families began to thrive, together with African Americans free before the Revolution, mostly descendants of unions between working class white women and African men.[15] By 1860, in Delaware 91.7 percent of the blacks were free, and 49.7 percent of those in Maryland. These first free families often formed the core of artisans, professionals, preachers and teachers in future generations.[16]

The importation of slaves into the United States was officially banned on 1 January 1808.[17]
Re: Are Dictatorships and Majority-Muslim Countries Leading in Human Trafficking? by sosisi(f): 3:06pm On Jul 02, 2009
Yes American" Christians "enslaved blacks but it also took American Christians to speak against slavery as early as the 17th century and also it was the effort of American Christians that ended slavery,some had to be arrested and thrown in jail but they were convinced that all men were created equal based on their Christian convictions,and that phrase is enshrined in the declaration of Independence.
cool cool cool cool
It's now taking American Christians the same effort in 2009 to convince Muslims to let go of slavery
Re: Are Dictatorships and Majority-Muslim Countries Leading in Human Trafficking? by sosisi(f): 3:32pm On Jul 02, 2009
The Arab slave trade from East Africa is one of the oldest slave trades, predating the European transatlantic slave trade by hundreds of years.[30] Male slaves who were often made eunuchs were employed as servants, soldiers, or laborers by their owners, while female slaves, including those from Africa, were long traded to the Middle Eastern countries and kingdoms by Arab and Oriental traders, as concubines and servants. Arab, African and Oriental traders were involved in the capture and transport of slaves northward across the Sahara desert and the Indian Ocean region into the Middle East, Persia, and the Indian subcontinent.

From approximately 650 until around 1900 the Arab slave trade continued in one form or another. The Moroccan Sultan Moulay Ismail "the Bloodthirsty" (1672-1727) raised a corps of 150,000 black slaves, called his Black Guard, who coerced the country into submission.[31] Historical accounts and references to slave-owning nobility in Arabia, Yemen and elsewhere are frequent into the early 1920s.[32] In 1953, sheikhs from Qatar attending the coronation of Queen Elizabeth II included slaves in their retinues, and they did so again on another visit five years later.[33] As recently as the 1950s, the Saudi Arabia’s slave population was estimated at 450,000 — approximately 20% of the population.[34][35] It is estimated that as many as 200,000 black Sudanese children and women had been taken into slavery in Sudan during the Second Sudanese Civil War.[36][37] Slavery in Mauritania was legally abolished by laws passed in 1905, 1961, and 1981.[38] It was finally criminalized in August 2007.[39] It is estimated that up to 600,000 black Mauritanians, or 20% of the Mauritania’s population, are currently enslaved, many of them used as bonded labour.[40]
For some people, any mention of the slave-trading past of the Arab world is rejected as an attempt to minimise the transatlantic trade. Yet a slave trade in the Indian Ocean, Red Sea, and Mediterranean pre-dates the arrival of any significant number of Europeans on the African continent.[41][42]

Descendants of the African slaves brought to the Middle East during the slave-trade still exist there today, and are aware of their African origins
.[43][
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_slave_trade
Re: Are Dictatorships and Majority-Muslim Countries Leading in Human Trafficking? by RichyBlacK(m): 5:33pm On Jul 02, 2009
JJYOU:

lame o lame. you dont get it do you?

@ richy this is so true

this film is sad but one has learnt not to expet anything better from bin musrtafa nephews and cousins.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7694381.stm

one of the first thing i learnt in europe many moons ago was how horrible the islamic slave masters treated black people.  never knew even a kanuri or a fulani cattle patrol guard tot he was higher than a black man in life's ladder.

@JJYOU,

How am I biased? Please tell me. Thanks.
Re: Are Dictatorships and Majority-Muslim Countries Leading in Human Trafficking? by ElRazur: 5:36pm On Jul 02, 2009
@JJYou

Please do not go on a fool's errand. The King is naked and we all know it. smiley
Re: Are Dictatorships and Majority-Muslim Countries Leading in Human Trafficking? by RichyBlacK(m): 5:39pm On Jul 02, 2009
ElRazur:

@JJYou

Please do not go on a fool's errand. The King is naked and we all know it. smiley

You dis troublemaker don come again? Wetin I do you sef? grin
Re: Are Dictatorships and Majority-Muslim Countries Leading in Human Trafficking? by Nobody: 4:26am On Jul 03, 2009
$osisi:

Yes American" Christians "enslaved blacks but it also took American Christians to speak against slavery as early as the 17th century and also it was the effort of American Christians that ended slavery,some had to be arrested and thrown in jail but they were convinced that all men were created equal based on their Christian convictions,and that phrase is enshrined in the declaration of Independence.
cool cool cool cool
It's now taking American Christians the same effort in 2009 to convince Muslims to let go of slavery

osisi, why do you keep dodging the question - what does the bible say on slavery?

oya let me help you out -

Neither Jesus nor St. Paul, nor any other Biblical figure is recorded as saying anything in opposition to the institution of slavery. Slavery was very much a part of life in Palestine and in the rest of the Roman Empire during New Testament times. The practice continued in England, Canada and the rest of the English Empire until the early 19th century; it continued in the U.S. until later in the 19th century.

Quoting Rabbi M.J. Raphall, circa 1861:

"Receiving slavery as one of the conditions of society, the New Testament nowhere interferes with or contradicts the slave code of Moses; it even preserves a letter [to Philemon] written by one of the most eminent Christian teachers [Paul] to a slave owner on sending back to him his runaway slave." 1


Paul's violation of the Mosaic Code on slavery:

While in prison, Paul met a runaway slave, Onesimus, the property of a Christian -- presumably Pheliemon. He sent the slave back to his owner. This action is forbidden in Deuteronomy 23:15-16:

"Thou shalt not deliver unto his master the servant which is escaped from his master unto thee."

"He shall dwell with thee, even among you, in that place which he shall choose in one of thy gates, where it liketh him best: thou shalt not oppress him."

Rather than give the slave sanctuary, Paul returned him to his owner. Paul seems to hint that he would like Pheliemon to give Onesimus his freedom, but does not actually request it. See the Letter to Philemon in the Christian Scriptures.


Other references to slavery in the Christian Scriptures:

People in debt (and their children) were still being sold into slavery in the first century CE: Matthew 18:25: "But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made."


Priests still owned slaves: Mark 14:66: "And as Peter was beneath in the palace, there cometh one of the maids of the high priest:"


Jesus is recorded as mentioning slaves in one of his parables. It is important to realize that the term "servant" or "maid" in the King James Version of the Bible refers to slaves, not employees like a butler, cook, or maid. Here, a slave which did not follow his owner's will would be beaten with many lashes of a whip. A slave who was unaware of his owner's will, but who did not behave properly, would also be beaten, but with fewer stripes.

This would have been a marvelous opportunity for Jesus to condemn the institution of slavery and its abuse of slaves. But he is not recorded of having bothered to taken it: Luke 12:45-48: "The lord [owner] of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers. And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more."


One of the favorite passages of slave-owning Christians was St. Paul's infamous instruction that slaves to obey their owners in the same way that they obey Christ: Ephesians 6:5-9: "Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ; Not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but as the servants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart; With good will doing service, as to the Lord, and not to men: Knowing that whatsoever good thing any man doeth, the same shall he receive of the Lord, whether he be bond or free. And, ye masters, do the same things unto them, forbearing threatening: knowing that your Master also is in heaven; neither is there respect of persons with him."


Other passages instructing slaves and slave owners in proper behavior are: Colossians 4:1: "Masters, give unto your servants that which is just and equal; knowing that ye also have a Master in heaven."

1 Timothy 6:1-3 "Let as many servants as are under the yoke count their own masters worthy of all honor, that the name of God and his doctrine be not blasphemed. And they that have believing masters, let them not despise them, because they are brethren; but rather do them service, because they are faithful and beloved, partakers of the benefit. These things teach and exhort. If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;"


In his defense, St. Paul incorrectly expected that Jesus would return in the very near future. This might have demotivated him from speaking out against slavery or other social evils in the Roman Empire. Also he regarded slaves as persons of worth whom at least God considers of importance. St. Paul mentioned that both slaves and free persons are sons of God, and thus all part of the body of Christ and spiritually equal. 1 Corinthians 12:13: "For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit."

Galatians 3:28: "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus."

Colossians 3:11: "Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all."


Paul apparently saw no evil in the concept of one person owning another as a piece of property. In his Letter to Philemon, he had every opportunity to discuss the immorality of slave-owning, but declined to do so.

so american slave owners are in no violation of your loving god's laws tongue


and your lord jesus failed to chastise the centurion who brought his slave for healing -

http://www.jeff-jackson.com/religion/Q/Q7A.html

Luke 7 (King James Version)

Luke 7

1Now when he had ended all his sayings in the audience of the people, he entered into Capernaum.

2And a certain centurion's servant, who was dear unto him, was sick, and ready to die.

3And when he heard of Jesus, he sent unto him the elders of the Jews, beseeching him that he would come and heal his servant.

4And when they came to Jesus, they besought him instantly, saying, That he was worthy for whom he should do this:

5For he loveth our nation, and he hath built us a synagogue.

6Then Jesus went with them. And when he was now not far from the house, the centurion sent friends to him, saying unto him, Lord, trouble not thyself: for I am not worthy that thou shouldest enter under my roof:

7Wherefore neither thought I myself worthy to come unto thee: but say in a word, and my servant shall be healed.

8For I also am a man set under authority, having under me soldiers, and I say unto one, Go, and he goeth; and to another, Come, and he cometh; and to my servant, Do this, and he doeth it.

9When Jesus heard these things, he marvelled at him, and turned him about, and said unto the people that followed him, I say unto you, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel.

10And they that were sent, returning to the house, found the servant whole that had been sick.

11And it came to pass the day after, that he went into a city called Nain; and many of his disciples went with him, and much people.

12Now when he came nigh to the gate of the city, behold, there was a dead man carried out, the only son of his mother, and she was a widow: and much people of the city was with her.

13And when the Lord saw her, he had compassion on her, and said unto her, Weep not.

14And he came and touched the bier: and they that bare him stood still. And he said, Young man, I say unto thee, Arise.

15And he that was dead sat up, and began to speak. And he delivered him to his mother.

16And there came a fear on all: and they glorified God, saying, That a great prophet is risen up among us; and, That God hath visited his people.

17And this rumour of him went forth throughout all Judaea, and throughout all the region round about.

18And the disciples of John shewed him of all these things.

why did jesus fail to condemn the man for owning a human being.BTW, its not servant, its SLAVE


you have also conveniently overlooked the fact that several of your christian kinsmen are based in modern day slavery on an industrialized scale

abi how do you describe the baby factory horror in abai aor was it anambra last yera

or the 10,000 girls trafficked to italy

or the sex slave rings in SA?

and what of WWII, was it not german christians that turned jews to slaves in Mercedz benz, bayer and other companies abi that one too is far away?

none of what they did matters anyway, shebi all sins are forgiven by the loving god, not so ? tongue

please don't give us the 'christians' bit. that is typical christian hypocrisy. you have no problem tarring all muslims with the same brush, butw when your fellow christains are caught, you do the political thing - disavow them tongue
Re: Are Dictatorships and Majority-Muslim Countries Leading in Human Trafficking? by Nobody: 4:45am On Jul 03, 2009
who deleted my reply
Re: Are Dictatorships and Majority-Muslim Countries Leading in Human Trafficking? by Nobody: 5:17am On Jul 03, 2009
let me try again

Yes American" Christians "enslaved blacks but it also took American Christians to speak against slavery as early as the 17th century and also it was the effort of American Christians that ended slavery,some had to be arrested and thrown in jail but they were convinced that all men were created equal based on their Christian convictions,and that phrase is enshrined in the declaration of Independence.

It's now taking American Christians the same effort in 2009 to convince Muslims to let go of slavery

waiting for these 'american christians' to give the land they stole back to the indians. abi stealing people's land is also enshrined in the declaration embarassed

osisi, why do you keep dodging the question - what does the bible say on slavery?

oya let me help you out -

Neither Jesus nor St. Paul, nor any other Biblical figure is recorded as saying anything in opposition to the institution of slavery. Slavery was very much a part of life in Palestine and in the rest of the Roman Empire during New Testament times. The practice continued in England, Canada and the rest of the English Empire until the early 19th century; it continued in the U.S. until later in the 19th century.

Quoting Rabbi M.J. Raphall, circa 1861:

"Receiving slavery as one of the conditions of society, the New Testament nowhere interferes with or contradicts the slave code of Moses; it even preserves a letter [to Philemon] written by one of the most eminent Christian teachers [Paul] to a slave owner on sending back to him his runaway slave." 1


Paul's violation of the Mosaic Code on slavery:

While in prison, Paul met a runaway slave, Onesimus, the property of a Christian -- presumably Pheliemon. He sent the slave back to his owner. This action is forbidden in Deuteronomy 23:15-16:

"Thou shalt not deliver unto his master the servant which is escaped from his master unto thee."

"He shall dwell with thee, even among you, in that place which he shall choose in one of thy gates, where it liketh him best: thou shalt not oppress him."

Rather than give the slave sanctuary, Paul returned him to his owner. Paul seems to hint that he would like Pheliemon to give Onesimus his freedom, but does not actually request it. See the Letter to Philemon in the Christian Scriptures.


Other references to slavery in the Christian Scriptures:

People in debt (and their children) were still being sold into slavery in the first century CE: Matthew 18:25: "But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made."


Priests still owned slaves: Mark 14:66: "And as Peter was beneath in the palace, there cometh one of the maids of the high priest:"


Jesus is recorded as mentioning slaves in one of his parables. It is important to realize that the term "servant" or "maid" in the King James Version of the Bible refers to slaves, not employees like a butler, cook, or maid. Here, a slave which did not follow his owner's will would be beaten with many lashes of a whip. A slave who was unaware of his owner's will, but who did not behave properly, would also be beaten, but with fewer stripes.

This would have been a marvelous opportunity for Jesus to condemn the institution of slavery and its abuse of slaves. But he is not recorded of having bothered to taken it: Luke 12:45-48: "The lord [owner] of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers. And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more."


One of the favorite passages of slave-owning Christians was St. Paul's infamous instruction that slaves to obey their owners in the same way that they obey Christ: Ephesians 6:5-9: "Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ; Not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but as the servants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart; With good will doing service, as to the Lord, and not to men: Knowing that whatsoever good thing any man doeth, the same shall he receive of the Lord, whether he be bond or free. And, ye masters, do the same things unto them, forbearing threatening: knowing that your Master also is in heaven; neither is there respect of persons with him."


Other passages instructing slaves and slave owners in proper behavior are: Colossians 4:1: "Masters, give unto your servants that which is just and equal; knowing that ye also have a Master in heaven."

1 Timothy 6:1-3 "Let as many servants as are under the yoke count their own masters worthy of all honor, that the name of God and his doctrine be not blasphemed. And they that have believing masters, let them not despise them, because they are brethren; but rather do them service, because they are faithful and beloved, partakers of the benefit. These things teach and exhort. If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;"


In his defense, St. Paul incorrectly expected that Jesus would return in the very near future. This might have demotivated him from speaking out against slavery or other social evils in the Roman Empire. Also he regarded slaves as persons of worth whom at least God considers of importance. St. Paul mentioned that both slaves and free persons are sons of God, and thus all part of the body of Christ and spiritually equal. 1 Corinthians 12:13: "For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit."

Galatians 3:28: "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus."

Colossians 3:11: "Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all."


Paul apparently saw no evil in the concept of one person owning another as a piece of property. In his Letter to Philemon, he had every opportunity to discuss the immorality of slave-owning, but declined to do so.

so american slave owners are in no violation of your loving god's laws Tongue

and your lord jesus failed to chastise the centurion who brought his slave for healing -

http://www.jeff-jackson.com/religion/Q/Q7A.html

Luke 7 (King James Version)

Luke 7


1Now when he had ended all his sayings in the audience of the people, he entered into Capernaum.

2And a certain centurion's servant, who was dear unto him, was sick, and ready to die.

3And when he heard of Jesus, he sent unto him the elders of the Jews, beseeching him that he would come and heal his servant.

4And when they came to Jesus, they besought him instantly, saying, That he was worthy for whom he should do this:

5For he loveth our nation, and he hath built us a synagogue.

6Then Jesus went with them. And when he was now not far from the house, the centurion sent friends to him, saying unto him, Lord, trouble not thyself: for I am not worthy that thou shouldest enter under my roof:

7Wherefore neither thought I myself worthy to come unto thee: but say in a word, and my servant shall be healed.

8For I also am a man set under authority, having under me soldiers, and I say unto one, Go, and he goeth; and to another, Come, and he cometh; and to my servant, Do this, and he doeth it.

9When Jesus heard these things, he marvelled at him, and turned him about, and said unto the people that followed him, I say unto you, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel.

10And they that were sent, returning to the house, found the servant whole that had been sick.

11And it came to pass the day after, that he went into a city called Nain; and many of his disciples went with him, and much people.

12Now when he came nigh to the gate of the city, behold, there was a dead man carried out, the only son of his mother, and she was a widow: and much people of the city was with her.

13And when the Lord saw her, he had compassion on her, and said unto her, Weep not.

14And he came and touched the bier: and they that bare him stood still. And he said, Young man, I say unto thee, Arise.

15And he that was dead sat up, and began to speak. And he delivered him to his mother.

16And there came a fear on all: and they glorified God, saying, That a great prophet is risen up among us; and, That God hath visited his people.

17And this rumour of him went forth throughout all Judaea, and throughout all the region round about.

18And the disciples of John shewed him of all these things.
why did jesus fail to condemn the man for owning a human being. abi he didn't know that all men are er created equal :PBTW, its not servant, its SLAVE


you have also conveniently overlooked the fact that several of your christian kinsmen are based in modern day slavery on an industrialized scale

abi how do you describe the baby factory horror in abai aor was it anambra last yera

or the 10,000 girls trafficked to italy

or the sex slave rings in SA?

and what of WWII, was it not german christians that turned jews to slaves in Mercedz benz, bayer and other companies abi that one too is far away?

none of what they did matters anyway, shebi all sins are forgiven by the loving god, not so ?  tongue

please don't give us the 'christians' bit. that is typical christian hypocrisy. you have no problem tarring all muslims with the same brush, but when your fellow christains are caught, you do the political thing - disavow them  tongue

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