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Re: What Went Wrong With Fashola? by profmallory(m): 5:29pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
I ask a simple question for every decision I have seen this administration make, and the question is "With GEJ's government, would it not have been worse". To me its an issue of opportunity cost, what ever seems to be happening now, worse would have been happening if we stuck with GEJ. Is it power?, the best electricity we ever had was 3 months into Buhari's reign, is it the decline is revenue?, so many states would have been on strick by now. is it the subsidy removal?, by now despite the global decline in crude, we might still be stuck on N97 per liter with one minister telling us some cock and bull economics. Not to mention the massive corruption that would have continued. it is inevitable that government must take some harsh decisions as this are trying times for all oil producing countries. A lot of Nigerians still go to bed knowing Nigeria has hope under Buhari. |
Re: What Went Wrong With Fashola? by free13: 5:30pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
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Re: What Went Wrong With Fashola? by gabbytabby: 5:35pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
abdulwastecx: Please tell them. Even within families they carry this entitlement mentality. No social, individual responsibility. People that can barely feed themselves but have multiple wives and children and then are looking around for everyone else to shoulder the liability they created. Dont worry don't pay your taxes, don't pay your electricity bill and be expecting manner to fall from heaven. While I do not agree that they should increase tariff yet but that they need to introduce penalties for none paying, encourage people who pay on time and introduce stringent penalties to those who steal electricity. Like pay 15k if paid within say a month and additional charge if paid later. |
Re: What Went Wrong With Fashola? by Nobody: 5:56pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
Am sure that if it were to be during jonathan time fashola will surely use this as a campaign slogan,paying for more darkness,using people sweat to rebuld power,but now it s has become a bitter pill for nigerians to swallow?not in my life time,am happy nigerian masses are waking up from their sleep by now,one chnace government,una neba shi shunshin |
Re: What Went Wrong With Fashola? by Nobody: 6:11pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
Maybe Fasholas arrogance only worked as a local champion. Now in the big ocean he is lost. |
Re: What Went Wrong With Fashola? by Uncletony(m): 6:21pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
Rolings: Shataap there! What has he done to lagos that enjoy all the previlleges of been the economic hub of Nigeria, with her IGR springing in billions. Tell me exactly what he has done apart from tolling gate, sch fee hike, siphoning lagos money with tifnubu, designing wesite with 75million...guy u dull die!! |
Re: What Went Wrong With Fashola? by 6fit(f): 7:51pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
Yhinkss:modify yur crap!! |
Re: What Went Wrong With Fashola? by Nobody: 9:01pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
Paentera:I have tried to download many (if not all) of the said documents from that site, the response I got was "File Not Found." Are there any other download links for these documents? |
Re: What Went Wrong With Fashola? by Nobody: 9:14pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
gists:just negodunu this ewedu eater |
Re: What Went Wrong With Fashola? by Nobody: 9:24pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
slyfoxxjoe:ignoramus everywhere! Check the GDP of these developed countries and available infrastructure. Tell me another thing please. |
Re: What Went Wrong With Fashola? by Rolings: 9:45pm On Feb 09, 2016 |
Uncletony: INCOHERENT MUMU |
Re: What Went Wrong With Fashola? by Nobody: 1:03am On Feb 10, 2016 |
Teddeebear:I like your points and they make sense but the question now is how does Nigeria raise the money needed to build the infrastructure before we talk about taxing to maintain? You know very well what our current economic situation is! Those ills you spoke about happened with past governments. This is a new govt with good plans but no money to implement. They literally have no other choice. The fact that they even have to beg and appeal to Nigerians to accept the tariff hikes should tell you a lot. 1 Like |
Re: What Went Wrong With Fashola? by Nobody: 1:07am On Feb 10, 2016 |
Almakura:idiatt! Do some research on the UK economy and find out how much of govt revenue is derived from corporate and individual tax alone. When u find the answer to this, come back and argue with me. Morroon! 1 Like |
Re: What Went Wrong With Fashola? by debeey87(m): 4:51am On Feb 10, 2016 |
PentiumPro: No one is saying the decision is wrong. When mtn car to nigeria,we paid a higher call rate but it wasn't to build their mast and we enjoyed value for money,the same for all the telecom companies. Why will the electricity companies be shouting they don't have money to put more infrastructure. If they need money,let them go to the stock exchange and do IPO, Nigerians will gladly buy into their companies or let then do private placements and get few investors with required capital to fund their business. It is rape for us to pay for services not rendered. But the big problem is that theses companies were sold to politicians who no nothing about how to manage business but specialised in using govt to make free money. Tell which disco,genco you know that have built additional facilities outside the ones built By the government,definitely non. Did mtn,Glo,air tel,etisalat wait for you to pay higher tariff before bring mast to your area. I support the idea of increase in tariff but first things first 1. NERC/govt should remove the fixed charges. In my opinion,its a way of giving phcn easy money.its removal will keep them on their toes to provide devices but if its left,they won't be bothered an inch cos they know,weda I give them light or not my 700naira is constant. 2. Mandate all discos to provide prepaid meters. Even with all this shout of we don't have money,there are several investors willing to take up the business should they drop it,but they won't because its is gold mine. If you give me prepaid meter,I'll care less if light spoil and phcn doesn't come to fix it. Who's loosing.....definitely them, no more fixed charge and my meter isn't reading self. But with what nerc has done,we have successfully given them license to continue to over bill consumers with estimated bills at an added coat for no reason 3. Increase the tariff Having said all this,nerc and govt can go ahead and increase tariff, Nigerians will worry less. I have a prepaid meter in the studio I live in,I have bought 3000naira credit since October @188units. All the appliances in my house works and just today, I have over a hundred unit left after 5months. That's what prepaid meter can do. Fashola should do the right thing NERC should do the right thing. Our Lazy Senators and Reps should call NERC to order. We say no to tariff increase till all Nigerians get a prepaid meter. That's the way to go. |
Re: What Went Wrong With Fashola? by debeey87(m): 5:01am On Feb 10, 2016 |
slyfoxxjoe: Point of correction sir,they are not begging but imposing. Let the current owners of discos and gencos pull out if they are not interested. As for finding money,that's simple enof. Fashola himself mention it last month at PENCOM conference in Abj that investors can tap into pension fund in Nigeria which is over $1trillion as loans,they will gladly provide it at a premium. When Akpabio needed money to develop akwa ibom state,he floated bond for the state which people bought into. Ask Aliko how he raises money to start up new empires in his manufacturing line. Do you eveen know that most of his businesses have very little infrastructure in place before IPO/private placement are done . We refuse to fund these electricity companies,govt gave them everything they have. They should grow up. Raise IPO OR PRIVATE placements from the Nigerian stock exchange,provide services that's needed and we will pay higher tariff |
Re: What Went Wrong With Fashola? by arresa: 5:17am On Feb 10, 2016 |
chivic: There is nothing wrong with Fashola, but there something wrong with your and your not well though assertions. 1. The DISCOs have zero capacity to deliver good services because they can not upgrade and expand because they can not access finance in form of bank loans since the banks are refusing to extend credit facilities to the DISCOs. 2. Fasola is basically telling you the sad truth, the DISCOs can not deliver without funds coming from either the banks or the general public so since the banks have refused, the next option is the consumers. 3. It's not a good situation for Nigerians, but we have no choice but to swallow the bitter pill by paying. 4. You still live in a country where Banks finds it easy and profitable to loan money to generator importers and not DISCos. Fashola is the least of your worries and if you like pay or don't pay, it's your choice to remain in darkness. 1 Like |
Re: What Went Wrong With Fashola? by anonimi: 6:01am On Feb 10, 2016 |
arresa: There is plenty wrong with Fashola, the other 35 former state governors and their boot-suckers aka political jobbers like you. Did he say this about the DEREGULATION of the downstream sector and COMPLETE removal of subsidy that would have turned expenditure on subsidy into INCOME to the federal, state and affected LGAs in the form: - licensing fees to import fuel and (later) establish refineries. - taxes from the refineries, - excise duty from the refineries - taxes, levies, rates etc from the EMPLOYEES and affiliated businesses to the refineries. I know that your (and your paymasters) selfish GREED will not allow you see beyond your nose. While initial hike in fuel price would have occurred with increasing competition the price would have come down drastically by now instead of the 50 kobo reduction in the face of over 60% crude oil price crash. The same thing happened with mobile telecommunication with Glo's arrival, not so www.nairaland.com/attachments/2606941_fuelsubsidygovernorssupport2011d_jpegc347aadcc28645a881c11e877b19ae27 www.nairaland.com/attachments/3115090_seunoloketuyi1223747310596353674000681876567738n_jpegf23910bd963a3dbb9d74ad4621bdda8b www.nairaland.com/attachments/3117129_image_jpeg9f360c5ab7736510df54c882e9dbf188 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: What Went Wrong With Fashola? by Goldencollins: 7:18am On Feb 10, 2016 |
Yhinkss:ZOMBIE Did u say all these crap during GEJ's era?? Hypocrites |
Re: What Went Wrong With Fashola? by Teddeebear: 7:32am On Feb 10, 2016 |
slyfoxxjoe:don't believe that lie that Nigeria is broke, am not against taxation, the government knows what to do and how to manage the available funds. 1. A close study of the budget shows you that the government is not ready to change, political class still want to recover what they spent during campaign. Have you not noticed hidden funds in the budget, lots of repetition of items, hike of prices of items. Desperate times requires desperate measures but not taxation. The national assembly has car allowance but Still allocated 3billion for new cars for themselves. Some ministries have increased their wage bill, pls when did the federal civil service recruit. Right in front of our face, the minister for health said the budget before Senate is not the one he prepared, what does that sound like to you. I can tell you, not only his ministry was tempered with. just check out what they added, a few billion and million naira here and there i can tell you, it can do a lot in construction of roads. The national Assembly should be placed on minimum wage too, and some of those needless allowance cut off. you will be surprised the amount of money that will be recovered. Civil service is very corrupt, TSA will help control leakages but More still needs to be Done, they are top government officials collecting more than their salary, they add ghost names, and names of their children in payrolls even people that have died, are still being credited. someone is stealing all these. if all the leakages are blocked, at least to an extent, silly allowance cut off, Nigeria will recover a lot of money. FYI, there is nothing like past government, government is a continuous thing and the same thieves are steal in charge. let me tell you what the tarriff is for, they increased tarrif so that they can raise money to develop their capacity to provide services, which you will be required to pay. When you start business do you ask your customers to give you money to buy AC and furnish your office so that your customers will enjoy?? Or you source for funds furnish your office and add it to the price of the service you render. This is what They are trying to do, collect money from you and use it to invest so As to make more money, remember this is no longer a government property, it is owned by private thieves. All the power station, substation, gas pipelines etc were still but With taxpayers money, they were also given 300billion naira to start up. All these our money, yet they increase tariffs, where are we heading … |
Re: What Went Wrong With Fashola? by chivic(m): 1:52pm On Feb 10, 2016 |
I'm already paying more than what I currently get. |
Re: What Went Wrong With Fashola? by mikolo80: 6:05am On Feb 11, 2016 |
light004:in the land of the blind the one eyed man is king, at least until a better one comes along. make him de do him local champion de go |
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