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Who Is This Allah (chapter 1) By G.J.O MOSHAY by Keenysbojan(m): 1:15pm On Feb 21, 2016
Last week I promised to post the book of 'who is this Allah' and today I have come to fulfill my promise, and you can also check 'who is this Allah' Preface and Forward link below..

Note: I am not here to argue with Muslims and other religions but rather I am here to share the truth. Be blessed as you read...

WHO IS THIS ALLAH
(Chapter 1)

TIME TO FACE THE FACTS

"Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD". (Psalm 33:12)
(And blessed is the religion whose God is the LORD)

THERE IS THIS STORY OF A MAN who, during an election campaign rally, had on his car bumper, a sticker with the inscription "My mind is already made up don't confuse me with the facts ". Many of us are no doubt guilty of adopting this attitude towards some serious beliefs we hold. Comforting as it may seem, this attitude can be dangerous. Some facts can, indeed, be disturbing; but such disturbances and 'confusion' may be necessary, especially, if such facts concern the destiny of one's soul.

For long it has been assumed that Christians and Muslims served the same God, and that it is only in the language of expression and mode of worship that they differed. When America was attacked on September 11, and about 3,063 people perished, the attackers believed they were serving Allah. Why would people decide to die in a plane crash with so strong a conviction they were fighting to satisfy their 'God' ? After fourteen centuries of history and in the light of our present day experiences, it has now become necessary for us to do a systematic study of the deity of Allah and search for the real identity of the Muslim God.

This issue of the identity of the Allah of Islam is more pertinent to us in the light of a present development in Malaysia where the Islamic government banned Christians from using the word ' Allah ' to refer to their God in the Bible. In 1981, the Bible in Malay language (called Al-kitab) was banned by the Islamic government in that country. The reason: because is has in it the word 'Allah ' as well as some other words that are claimed to have Islamic origin. By now it has become a law in that multiracial and multi religious country where Islam claims 53o/o that no religion other than Islam should use certain words including 'Allah ', 'faith', 'belief', in its literature. In 2007, Catholic paper Herald was banned from referring to the Christians God as Allah. The Catholic Church went to court to challenge the decision. A court ruled that Catholic were free to use 'Allah' to refer to God. Many Muslims were upset:

"Why are the Christians claiming Allah?", they protested, "Everybody in the world knows Allah is the Muslim God and belongs to Muslims. I cannot understand why the Christians want to claim Allah as their God."

Government lawyers claimed that allowing Christians to use the word 'Allah' to refer to God would confuse Muslims because, according to them, Christians recognize "a trinity of gods" while Islam is " totally monotheistic". They said the correct and proper Malay word for God is Tuhan. According to Time magazine, there were many non-violent protests in mosques because of this. However, some Muslims went on rampage and burned down three churches to register that Allah is their exclusive 'God' and not the same as the Christians triune God.

The seriousness of this demands candor; but this book has been written not out of bitterness or resentment against Muslims, but out of the Christians love by which we are constrained to speak the truth.

Moreover, the event of September 11 gives us a great opportunity to make more research into Islam, the motivation force behind most religious terrorists in the world. It is a time we need to re-examine our response to Islam and our responsibility towards Muslims who come to stay in the western word.

WHO IS ALLAH?
A number of thoughtful people have often asked: Is Allah God? Is he "the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ " as stated in Colossians 1:3? Many opinions abound. Some have said Allah is simply God - the same God of the Bible, as He is known in the Arabic language. Some say he cannot possibly be; they say they do not know who he is, but they are sure he is different from the God of the Bible. Some say he is indeed a mighty God, but not the Almighty God. Yet some believe that there are two Allahs. They say the 'Allah' of the Arab,Malay,Indonesian, and Hausa Christians is different from the 'Allah' of the Muslims in these same areas. According to them, while the Allah of Arab Christians is God, the Allah of the Muslims is not. But if he is not, who is he?

This issue of the identity of Allah has oscillated now for a number of years, and it is time we dug up some bare bone fact to determine it somewhere. A lie engineered by the devil cannot be defeated by hazy and vague ideas. And in such a matter that concerns the salvation of man's soul at this, there can be no substitute for adequate knowledge. Bits of half truths can be dangerous. We must go deep into the Quran, Hadith, history, linguistic and back to the Bible to get adequate information on this topic.

We need to stress that there can be no other source of the history of Islam except from the Muslims historians themselves, especially, as contained in the Islamic Traditions called the Hadith. These Traditions are many and voluminous and a study of them can be tortuous. But since there is no alternative to adequate information, we must consult these works. It is not all Islamic traditions or Hadith that are accepted by all Muslims as authentic.
Therefore, we shall endeavor not to quote any tradition that contradicts the Quran in any place. Those quoted shall be only to explain further what has been said in the Quran. The major and generally accepted hadiths to both shi'tes and sunnis are the or Sahih Al Bukhari, Kitab al zakat by Muslims, Sahih Muslim, Mishkatu'l Masabih, Sirat'ur Rasul by Ibn Ishaq and those of Ibn Athir, Abu Daud, Abu c Abd ar- Rahmann-Al-nasa and Abu c Isa Muhammad, Jami at Tirmidhi, Ibn Majah and Sunna An-Nasa'i. A cosmetic treatment of the matter will only lead to a lazy conclusion which may be more confusing than convincing, and consequently, may be dangerous concerning the destiny of the many millions of souls of well-meaning adherents of Islam. Efforts shall be made to discuss all brain-boiling questions that may be raised within the ambit of this theme.

Normally, Muslims had been reluctant to use the English word or any other word for God. They preferred 'Allah'. Recently, however, we are noticing a change. Many have now been substituting 'God' for 'Allah' in modern Islamic literature. Western literary men are not helping either. For example, the translation of the terrorists' letter to those who carried out attack on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon was wrong. I have already said in the preface that the word used in that letter that was translated as 'God' is 'Allah'. It is different from the real Arabic word for God. The Arabic word for the expression 'God' is 'Ilah'. We will examine this in more details towards the end this book. At the moment, we just want to point out that such a substitution only compounds the issue before us. If this letter had been accurately translated, some of the comments of the world leaders and Christians on the connection between Islam and the attackers may have been different. To believe there is no difference between Allah and God is simplistic. This is not a matter of personal opinions. What does the Quran itself say about this?

Speaking to the Christians and the Jews of his time who has some reservations on the object of worship in Islam, Muhammad said, "...Our God and your God is (the same) one; and it is to Him we bow (in Islam)" (Sura 29:46 Yusuf Ali's translation). That is, 'the Allah we prostrate and sacrifice to in Islam and the Jehovah of your Bible is the same being.'

It may be easy for many people to accept this claim; but a serious truth-seeking Christians or Muslims who refuses to accept things as they appear on the surface, and carefully studies the Quran and compares it with the Bible, soon discovers that the claim is not as cheap as said above. That great scholar of Islamic religion, Samuel Zwener, wrote:

It is so easy to be misled by a name or by etymologies. Nearly all writers take for granted that the God of the Koran is the same being and has like attributes as Jehovah or as the Godhead of the New Testament. Is this view correct?
Re: Who Is This Allah (chapter 1) By G.J.O MOSHAY by Keenysbojan(m): 1:18pm On Feb 21, 2016
A big question indeed! Since this question was asked back in 1905, much research work has been undertaken. We need to settle the question permanently. This may not go down well with some people especially at this period when some are discussing inter-faithism, closing eyes on prophetic classic The Islamic Invasion, American scholar Dr. Robert Morey, say,

"The sloppy thinking that would ignore the essential differences which divided world religions is an insult to the uniqueness of world religions"

This theme indeed may not be as very simple as some of us might think. And in order to avoid the problem and confusion that the issue entails, a Christian professor of Islamic theology, Kenneth Cragg, in his apologetic, The Call of the Minaret, says:

Those who say that Allah is not 'the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ' are right if they mean God is not so described by Muslims. They are wrong if tey mean that Allah is other than the God of the Christian faith.

At the surface level, this observation seems to have settled the matter. But this issue is not so simple to be dismissed in those two sentences. The problem lies in the origin of the Quran. Are the claims in the Quran mere apprehensions of the Divine from the Muslims' heads? Was the message in the Quran received or conceived?

One thing we must understand is that: religion itself is basically, not a philosophy but a revelation. It cannot be judged on the same pedestal as the Platonic, Socratic, Cartesian or other philosophies. Islam, in particular, is a religion of revelation (ARABIC: wahy or naql), at least at its inception. It would be helpful for us if we realize that the difference or otherwise between Allah and the God of the Christian faith is not much of description as professor Cragg suggests.

Muslims do not say they are describing Allah. In fact, Allah cannot be described. All a Muslim can do is to raise is hands to the sky or bow down in adoration and say, 'Allahu Akbar!' He is too great to be described by human beings. Even his "99 Most beautiful names" in the Quran are not descriptions by human beings. They are revelations by Allah himself. Muhammad did not just rise up to conceive of the Allah in the Quran. Conception is a product of man.

But according to Muslims, and the Quran itself, Islam did not originate from Muhammad's head. He might have got a conception of God before, but the religion of Islam itself is a direct revelation, and not a product of a philosophical genius. Muhammad was only a prophet. Everything in the Quran is a Divine Revelation (tanzil) that is, something 'sent down' (Surah 53:4). Muhammad did not write the Quran. After all, he was an Ummi (unlettered, stark illiterate, Surah 7:158). His childhood was marked with abject poverty, and so possibly did not go to school. How then could he possibly have written a book such a wonderful book? The Quran descended from heaven,, and the original copy is still on the 'Preserved Tablet' (Lauh Mahfuz) or 'Mother of the Book' (Umul Al Kitab) in Paradise, AND HAS BEEN THERE EVEN BEFORE THE CREATION OF THE WORLD! And because of this, nothing in the book must be questioned (Surah 85:22 and 43:3-4)

The Western mind may find all these indigestible and unbelievable. But these are no idle claims! Take them away, and there would be nothing called Islam. They are what several millions of Muslims believe, and they are the beliefs on which we have to base our study from the outset at least before we can ever venture into re-examining them later.

The Allah we have in the Quran is therefore a revealed Allah and not just a conception (aql) emanating from Muslims' heads. Contrary to what Cragg says, it is not "the Christians that say Allah is not 'the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ ". Whoever Allah is or is not, as we shall see in this book, is a revelation of the Quran rather than Christians' claims.

The God in the Bible is not a description either. He revealed Himself to Abram, Jacob, Moses, the Prophets, and came down to manifest Himself physically in the Person of Jesus of Nazareth. Jesus said: " Anyone who has seen me, has seen the Father" (John 14:9). Christians an Jews did not conceive of the God in the bible. God revealed Himself: His nature, His Name, His glory, His law, His judgment, His love, His holiness. Take away these revelations, and there would be nothing called Judaism or Christainity.

Today, Christians know God as He is in the Bible and in their lives. In the same vein, Allah is known (supposedly) to Muslims as he is in the Quran, and as he manifests himself in their lives. It is these revelations and manifestations (not descriptions) that determine the Islamic ethos and the Christian ethics. Therefore, the problem before us in not that of different and conflicting descriptions of the Devine, but of revelations. And since these revelations are contained in the two books, the Quran and the Bible, they shall form the basic texts of identifying who Allah is.

In this work, we intend to explain the Quran as it is, by itself, with all its claims, taking Allah, the author and comparing him with the character of the Christian God. We would need to have our minds open in this venture. We would need to be afraid of being 'disturbed ' with the facts. Such 'disturbance' are necessary. We would probably need a permission from Muslims to quote from the Quran. Many Muslims have always resented a non-Muslim quoting from their sacred book for fear of an un-Islamic interpretation. But if the Quran contains clear facts and it is the Word of God for the salvation of mankind, mankind must be free to read it and refer to it in a religious discourse. In the Bible, God allows even Satan (!) to quote from His Word (Matt 4:5-7). But in quoting from the Quran, we may not agree with Al-A'shari that the Quran should be accepted bi-la kayf i.e. ' without asking questions'

The greatest weapon of the devil is ignorance. That is why the first weapon of spiritual warfare as listed in Ephesians 6 in the Bible is 'belt of truth'-information. If we are to get free from the enemy of our lives, we must get the truth. This will involve having to probe some things we have assumed for long. We reject this Islamic concept of 'Ta abbudi'- that the Quran must 'be accepted without criticism ', without questions. As we proceed in the study of who Allah is in the Quran, we will have to ask certain questions

In Surah 5:101 of the Quran, Allah gives a strict warning to Muslims:

'O YE WHO BELIEVE (MUSLIMS).
ASK NOT QUESTIONS ABOUT THINGS, IF MADE PLAIN TO YOU,
MAY CAUSE YOU TROUBLE.'

But the Islamic world cannot continue to live in ignorance. Many young Muslim thinkers today want the 'troubles' of plain truths to begin! They have to ask questions. And the first question we need to as ask is:

WHO WROTE THE QURAN?

We have already said something about the authorship of the Quran and this has been treated in a separate book by this author. But the issue needs a push here. It is from the general assumption we make here that determines how we treat the issue before us.

Generally, most Muslims believe that the Quran came down from heaven and was given to Muhammad as a book or sheets in stages. The book itself claims in many verses that it actually came down from Allah through the angel Gabriel (cf. Surah 3:3, Surah 4:105)

But if we are to take the Quran itself to determine its authorship from its claims, we cannot come out with a definite answer. For example, Surah 26:192-194 and Surah 16:102 say Muhammad received the Quran from "the Holy Spirit". But in Surah 53:2-18 and Surah 81:19-24, we read that it was "one Mighty in Power " himself that personally delivered the book to Muhammad, and that Muhammad saw him. Elsewhere we read again that it was Angel Gabriel who brought the Quran down from heaven and handed it to Muhammad or brought it to his heart (cf. Surah 2:97). Again in Surah 15:8, we are made to know that it wasn't really Allah himself or Gabriel or the 'Holy Spirit'but actually 'angels' (plural).
Re: Who Is This Allah (chapter 1) By G.J.O MOSHAY by Keenysbojan(m): 1:20pm On Feb 21, 2016
If a Muslim reader is confused at this juncture, he has enough reasons to be. But we do not intend to weary anybody with this confusion. So, let us come down and agree on one point and then proceed. Some enlightened Muslims believe that it would be more reasonable to regard the book as the written form of the verbal message given to Muhammad, and so a revelation. Reading through the comments of most Islamic scholars who translated the Quran, one easily sees that apart from their stereotypical romanticism, they too are not sure of the authorship of the book. All they can say is that it is the book of Allah.

A careful student who reads it either in the Arabic or in translations will see that apart from direct quotes from reported events, some parts of the narratives are in the first person plural, while some are in the third person and then first person singular, and so on. There are places where Allah is being addressed by the writer. The writer seems to forget he should maintain the narrative as coming from Allah and suddenly changes the narrative. For example, when the speaker-writer says: " I swear by Allah that they will not believe....", one wonders who is speaking - Allah or a writer? Or how could these statements have existed in heaven in a book before creation?

Some historians have attempted to prove that the Quran was written neither by Muhammad nor even during his lifetime. They say Muhammad was, in fact, illiterate. According to then, the book we call the Quran today is a product of some zealots of Islam under supervision of a caliph, who, after the death of their master felt they must have a sacred book just as Christians and the Jews for their religion; and so they tried to recollect what their leader was preaching before his death. Part of it is said to be from the parchment written and kept before the death of the prophet. According to the Hadith, some of the fragments were collected from "tablets of stone,ribs of palm branches,camels' shoulder-blades and ribs, pieces of board, and the breasts of men - (that is from men's memory)".

The first attempt of compilation is said to have been made by Muhammad's daughter, Fatima, who had to contest some of the facts with some followers of her father since there were different versions being recited by the people. Muhammad's wife, Hafsa, also helped in the compilation. The final work, however, is credited to Zaid ibn Thabit, whom some believe as merely the editor.

Because of the predominant use of the first person plural and singular narratives, we will accept for now that there was being from whom Muhammad was receiving his messages, and this being is called 'Allah' in Arabic; and that even if the book was written by the followers after his death, it is not impossible to remember some of the words of Muhammad when he was being inspired to recite the Quran

This position is necessary to establish our logic. If we accept the Quran as divinely inspired by some being, we should not be afraid to identify the being. If we say from the outset that there was no supernatural being speaking to Muhammad or at least giving him the inspiration to say what he was quoted as saying, we would have no choice than to dismiss the whole bunch of the Quran as a fraud and regard Muhammad as one of the most successful liars and deceivers the world has ever see . But that is not the case because throughout the pages of the Quran, Allah is quoted exhaustively as one speaking, even in the first person plural, signifying a dignified or honorific personality or deity.

So, we take a stand: that there was an Allah talking to or inspiring Muhammad. The issue we face here, then, is whether or not the Allah from whose angel Muhammad was receiving his messages is the same Jehovah of the Bible.

We cannot impose an opinion. There are sufficient facts in this book for a sincere reader to determine his or her own conclusion. But it is important for the Muslim reader to be very honest with himself and read the book through because this is a serious matter that has an eternal consequence for his soul. This is the greatest question you will find an answer to...

TILL NEXT WEEK SUNDAY, GOD BLESS YOU ALL AS YOU PATIENTLY READ THIS THREAD...

https://www.nairaland.com/2934119/allah-forward-preface/1#42961274

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Re: Who Is This Allah (chapter 1) By G.J.O MOSHAY by truthmans2012: 3:24pm On Feb 21, 2016
Keenysbojan:
If a Muslim reader is confused at this juncture, he has enough reasons to be. But we do not intend to weary anybody with this confusion. So, let us come down and agree on one point and then proceed. Some enlightened Muslims believe that it would be more reasonable to regard the book as the written form of the verbal message given to Muhammad, and so a revelation. Reading through the comments of most Islamic scholars who translated the Quran, one easily sees that apart from their stereotypical romanticism, they too are not sure of the authorship of the book. All they can say is that it is the book of Allah.

A careful student who reads it either in the Arabic or in translations will see that apart from direct quotes from reported events, some parts of the narratives are in the first person plural, while some are in the third person and then first person singular, and so on. There are places where Allah is being addressed by the writer. The writer seems to forget he should maintain the narrative as coming from Allah and suddenly changes the narrative. For example, when the speaker-writer says: " I swear by Allah that they will not believe....", one wonders who is speaking - Allah or a writer? Or how could these statements have existed in heaven in a book before creation?

Some historians have attempted to prove that the Quran was written neither by Muhammad nor even during his lifetime. They say Muhammad was, in fact, illiterate. According to then, the book we call the Quran today is a product of some zealots of Islam under supervision of a caliph, who, after the death of their master felt they must have a sacred book just as Christians and the Jews for their religion; and so they tried to recollect what their leader was preaching before his death. Part of it is said to be from the parchment written and kept before the death of the prophet. According to the Hadith, some of the fragments were collected from "tablets of stone,ribs of palm branches,camels' shoulder-blades and ribs, pieces of board, and the breasts of men - (that is from men's memory)".

The first attempt of compilation is said to have been made by Muhammad's daughter, Fatima, who had to contest some of the facts with some followers of her father since there were different versions being recited by the people. Muhammad's wife, Hafsa, also helped in the compilation. The final work, however, is credited to Zaid ibn Thabit, whom some believe as merely the editor.

Because of the predominant use of the first person plural and singular narratives, we will accept for now that there was being from whom Muhammad was receiving his messages, and this being is called 'Allah' in Arabic; and that even if the book was written by the followers after his death, it is not impossible to remember some of the words of Muhammad when he was being inspired to recite the Quran

This position is necessary to establish our logic. If we accept the Quran as divinely inspired by some being, we should not be afraid to identify the being. If we say from the outset that there was no supernatural being speaking to Muhammad or at least giving him the inspiration to say what he was quoted as saying, we would have no choice than to dismiss the whole bunch of the Quran as a fraud and regard Muhammad as one of the most successful liars and deceivers the world has ever see . But that is not the case because throughout the pages of the Quran, Allah is quoted exhaustively as one speaking, even in the first person plural, signifying a dignified or honorific personality or deity.

So, we take a stand: that there was an Allah talking to or inspiring Muhammad. The issue we face here, then, is whether or not the Allah from whose angel Muhammad was receiving his messages is the same Jehovah of the Bible.

We cannot impose an opinion. There are sufficient facts in this book for a sincere reader to determine his or her own conclusion. But it is important for the Muslim reader to be very honest with himself and read the book through because this is a serious matter that has an eternal consequence for his soul. This is the greatest question you will find an answer to...

TILL NEXT WEEK SUNDAY, GOD BLESS YOU ALL AS YOU PATIENTLY READ THIS THREAD...

https://www.nairaland.com/2934119/allah-forward-preface/1#42961274

Well done, God bless you.
Re: Who Is This Allah (chapter 1) By G.J.O MOSHAY by Keenysbojan(m): 3:55pm On Feb 21, 2016
truthmans2012:

Well done, God bless you.
Thank you bro

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Re: Who Is This Allah (chapter 1) By G.J.O MOSHAY by nnenneigbo(f): 12:04am On Aug 29, 2016
Basically, Allah is the satan? God is God. End of story.

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Re: Who Is This Allah (chapter 1) By G.J.O MOSHAY by surplusspending(m): 8:12pm On Jan 17, 2017
may God bless you. this is an eye opener . I will be looking forward to read more when you continue
Re: Who Is This Allah (chapter 1) By G.J.O MOSHAY by Alajiki(m): 12:39pm On May 14, 2017
So, after more than a year...nothing to add again?

Why don't you kukuma give us the link to the book instead of dropping it in piecemeal?

Some lazy crusader!

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Re: Who Is This Allah (chapter 1) By G.J.O MOSHAY by sirshevy: 1:09am On Aug 10, 2017
There is this book titled ‘Who is this Allah?’. In it, vitriolic out-pours were rendered against Islam. I want to take it upon myself to demolish one of the strong footholds of apologetic, militant Christianity. This book as the name portends seeks to explain, albeit in a characteristically Christian way, who the God of the Muslims is. Allah, as we all understand is the name of God in Arabic, the language of the Qur’an, the book of the Muslims. This arrant nonsense called ‘Who is this Allah?’ has had detailed refutations made for it so it isn’t my intent to do that here. Plus space wouldn’t even allow me do justice to that. My point of stay is the character called G.J.O Moshay. This faceless individual collected baseless views about Islam, and quite foolishly muddled up his arguments; all in a bid to paint Islam polytheistic. I’ve always insisted that Christianity is both paganistic and polytheistic . The silliest thing about the book is its author. No one knows him. He only claims to be ‘a Nigerian, from the mainly Muslim Northern part of the country.’ A cursory look however reveals a multitude of such assertions including some claiming to be kids of prominent Muslim rulers. However, not one of them has been acknowledged by the sane public. While it isn’t any new writing under pen names (George Orwell of the ‘Animal Farm’ fame springs to mind), it is however childish to hide under the well known literary concept to peddle falsehood. This is even more important when those accused have debunked your lies and even called you out for a debate. A Muslim writer, Yusuf Mabera, author of ‘Allah is the Creator’, a sound rebuttal for the devilish book is known to have challenged the being called G.J.O.Moshay to an open debate. He never showed up. Maybe with the advent of the internet this will change. So I’m calling him out today also. Respond to my invitation, and let’s see what you have. If this Moshay thing keeps existing in the imagination of himself and his followers, then methinks we should view every propagator of this evil piece as being deluded, foolish and not worthy of attention. The Christian way as referred to above is the way of falsehood. Christian apologetics and proselytism feeds fat on lies. This is not a problem in the moral system of Christianity as the ‘top dog’ of the faith, Paul himself confessed to his own lewd ways. He said: “For if the truth of God hath more abounded by my lie unto his glory, why yet am I also adjudged a sinner?” Romans 3/7. Call this an hypothetical statement if you wish, but how do describe this; “Being crafty, I caught you with guile.” (2 Cor. 12:16). Or this; “Unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews.” (1 Cor. 9:20). And this; “I am made all things to all men.” (1 Cor. 9:22) “Little wonder then that his protégés have carried on with this evil way in more daring forms. But lies don’t last. And liars sure need good memory. Unfortunately for them, their too short memory made them mix up points thereby coming up with a contraption of contradictions called the bible. Easily, anyone conversant with Christian rhetoric will remember the story of the Egyptian woman who converted to Christianity. She did this with her two daughters. But her Muslim husband got mad at this, killed her and the kids, and then buried them. A man in shiny white clothes would come around to feed them. This continued until they were found alive deep down in the soil. This was reported on National TV. Don’t ask me what National TV as the liar who concocted the fable couldn’t name it. While it may sound incredulous that religious people lie, it isn’t any big deal to the Christian preacher. Countless such evil accounts of deceit exist. Other such intriguing lies by modern Christians include but not limited to: • The Missionary who was protected from murderous attackers by the miraculous appearance of 26 armed guards in the jungle of Africa? • Diane, the young Christian university student who prayed for protection while walking home late one night so was saved by two angels who kept her safe from rape. • The Christians forbidden by the city’s Muslims to celebrate Christmas in Meulaboh, Indonesia but instead gathered on a high hill nearby and so were spared from the tsunami that wiped out the city. • The story of three small Indonesian Christian islands that were raised three metres above sea level by the tsunami thus spared, while it wiped out the large adjoining Muslim island. • In the India, “…in the middle of the night prior to the earthquake, a prophet at the (Christian) training center on Rameswaram was awakened and met by the angel of death. The angel said that he was going to destroy the island of Rameswaram. The prophet called the elders of the church together to pray against this declaration. They didn’t know what would happen but they prayed through the night. In the morning the quake occurred and the wave began to work its devastation. Sri Lanka, mere miles away, was inundated, however, the island of Rameswaram was untouched to the degree that they didn’t even lose a chicken. The training center is also untouched…” • The story of how St Thomas’ miraculous post kept the invading waves away, sparing the newly renovated Santhome Cathedral in India. For detailed discussions about the lies enumerated above and many more, check www.snopes.com . Do we still have to talk about the fake miracles we see on TV? Becoming Christian based on these lies is like climbing a mountain to find a lie, then digging a grave to bury one. For the truth is meant to be told, never to be sold. I am not holding brief for Islam or the Muslims, but I have an obligation to call a spade a spade. G.J.O. Moshay is a lie, his book is a lie, so also is what he claims to believe in; Christianity.

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Re: Who Is This Allah (chapter 1) By G.J.O MOSHAY by sirshevy: 1:23am On Aug 10, 2017
the idiot nd his fellow Christian cohorts has forgotten Jesus himself never call his creator God while on earth but ELI "mathew 27vs46
King James Bible
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli,
Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast
thou forsaken me?..... is Eli nt also God because an idiot just claimed God is God while ALLAH is satan... u fools want we muslims to believe and acept Jesus as our god yet we saw it written in d novel u call bible dat Jesus was forsaken by another entity believed to be God again "ELI".. who is forsaken who, why is one of ur god forsaken the other i thought you said they are one

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Re: Who Is This Allah (chapter 1) By G.J.O MOSHAY by Keenysbojan(m): 8:47am On Aug 10, 2017
Alajiki:
So, after more than a year...nothing to add again?

Why don't you kukuma give us the link to the book instead of dropping it in piecemeal?

Some lazy crusader!
sorry i have not been around with the book
Re: Who Is This Allah (chapter 1) By G.J.O MOSHAY by Keenysbojan(m): 8:58am On Aug 10, 2017
sirshevy:
There is this book titled ‘Who is this Allah?’. In
it, vitriolic out-pours were rendered against Islam.
I want to take it upon myself to demolish one of the
strong footholds of apologetic, militant
Christianity. This book as the name portends seeks
to explain, albeit in a characteristically Christian
way, who the God of the Muslims is. Allah, as we
all understand is the name of God in Arabic, the
language of the Qur’an, the book of the Muslims.
This arrant nonsense called ‘Who is this Allah?’
has had detailed refutations made for it so it isn’t
my intent to do that here. Plus space wouldn’t even
allow me do justice to that. My point of stay is the
character called G.J.O Moshay. This faceless
individual collected baseless views about Islam, and
quite foolishly muddled up his arguments; all in a
bid to paint Islam polytheistic. I’ve always insisted
that Christianity is both paganistic and
polytheistic . The silliest thing about the book is its
author. No one knows him. He only claims to be ‘a
Nigerian, from the mainly Muslim Northern part of
the country.’ A cursory look however reveals a
multitude of such assertions including some claiming
to be kids of prominent Muslim rulers. However,
not one of them has been acknowledged by the sane
public. While it isn’t any new writing under pen
names (George Orwell of the ‘Animal Farm’ fame
springs to mind), it is however childish to hide
under the well known literary concept to peddle
falsehood. This is even more important when those
accused have debunked your lies and even called you
out for a debate.
A Muslim writer, Yusuf Mabera, author of
‘Allah is the Creator’, a sound rebuttal for the
devilish book is known to have challenged the being
called G.J.O.Moshay to an open debate. He
never showed up. Maybe with the advent of the
internet this will change. So I’m calling him out
today also. Respond to my invitation, and let’s see
what you have. If this Moshay thing keeps
existing in the imagination of himself and his
followers, then methinks we should view every
propagator of this evil piece as being deluded,
foolish and not worthy of attention.
The Christian way as referred to above is the way
of falsehood. Christian apologetics and proselytism
feeds fat on lies. This is not a problem in the moral
system of Christianity as the ‘top dog’ of the
faith, Paul himself confessed to his own lewd ways.
He said: “For if the truth of God hath more
abounded by my lie unto his glory, why yet am I also
adjudged a sinner?” Romans 3/7. Call this an
hypothetical statement if you wish, but how do
describe this; “Being crafty, I caught you with
guile.” (2 Cor. 12:16). Or this; “Unto the
Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the
Jews.” (1 Cor. 9:20). And this; “I am made
all things to all men.” (1 Cor. 9:22) “Little
wonder then that his protégés have carried on with
this evil way in more daring forms. But lies don’t
last. And liars sure need good memory.
Unfortunately for them, their too short memory
made them mix up points thereby coming up with a
contraption of contradictions called the bible.
Easily, anyone conversant with Christian rhetoric
will remember the story of the Egyptian woman who
converted to Christianity. She did this with her
two daughters. But her Muslim husband got mad
at this, killed her and the kids, and then buried
them. A man in shiny white clothes would come
around to feed them. This continued until they
were found alive deep down in the soil. This was
reported on National TV. Don’t ask me what
National TV as the liar who concocted the fable
couldn’t name it.
While it may sound incredulous that religious people
lie, it isn’t any big deal to the Christian preacher.
Countless such evil accounts of deceit exist. Other
such intriguing lies by modern Christians include
but not limited to:
• The Missionary who was protected from
murderous attackers by the miraculous appearance
of 26 armed guards in the jungle of Africa?
• Diane, the young Christian university student
who prayed for protection while walking home late
one night so was saved by two angels who kept her
safe from rape.
• The Christians forbidden by the city’s Muslims
to celebrate Christmas in Meulaboh, Indonesia but
instead gathered on a high hill nearby and so were
spared from the tsunami that wiped out the city.
• The story of three small Indonesian Christian
islands that were raised three metres above sea level
by the tsunami thus spared, while it wiped out the
large adjoining Muslim island.
• In the India, “…in the middle of the night prior
to the earthquake, a prophet at the (Christian)
training center on Rameswaram was awakened and
met by the angel of death. The angel said that he
was going to destroy the island of Rameswaram.
The prophet called the elders of the church
together to pray against this declaration. They
didn’t know what would happen but they prayed
through the night. In the morning the quake
occurred and the wave began to work its
devastation. Sri Lanka, mere miles away, was
inundated, however, the island of Rameswaram was
untouched to the degree that they didn’t even lose a
chicken. The training center is also untouched…”
• The story of how St Thomas’ miraculous post
kept the invading waves away, sparing the newly
renovated Santhome Cathedral in India.
For detailed discussions about the lies enumerated
above and many more, check www.snopes.com .
Do we still have to talk about the fake miracles we
see on TV?
Becoming Christian based on these lies is like
climbing a mountain to find a lie, then digging a
grave to bury one. For the truth is meant to be
told, never to be sold. I am not holding brief for
Islam or the Muslims, but I have an obligation to
call a spade a spade. G.J.O. Moshay is a lie,
his book is a lie, so also is what he claims to believe
in; Christianity.
i wil be bak
Re: Who Is This Allah (chapter 1) By G.J.O MOSHAY by OtemAtum: 10:02am On Aug 10, 2017
Both Allah and Yahweh are the creatures of God Almighty.
Re: Who Is This Allah (chapter 1) By G.J.O MOSHAY by Keenysbojan(m): 10:44am On Aug 10, 2017
OtemAtum:
Both Allah and Yahweh are the creatures of God Almighty.
that's wrong of you. Yahweh is the God Almighty go and read ur bible. Allah and Yahweh are nt dsame
Re: Who Is This Allah (chapter 1) By G.J.O MOSHAY by OtemAtum: 12:00pm On Aug 10, 2017
L
Keenysbojan:
that's wrong of you. Yahweh is the God Almighty go and read ur bible. Allah and Yahweh are nt dsame
Yes Allah and Yahweh are not the same and the DOCTUFOS OF TRUTH confirms this. It also confirms that God Almighty is the creator of both of them:

Doctufos:

Otem Erectus 3:1a

1. Now Asuku said, this is my genealogy from the beginning till these days. God Almighty created Tem, Aten, Moloki, Chimed, Allah, Yahweh...
Re: Who Is This Allah (chapter 1) By G.J.O MOSHAY by Bizgold: 5:17pm On Aug 11, 2017
But when u read Bible and quran logically, which one seems to be Devine?
Re: Who Is This Allah (chapter 1) By G.J.O MOSHAY by Keenysbojan(m): 8:36pm On Aug 11, 2017
OtemAtum:
L Yes Allah and Yahweh are not the same and the DOCTUFOS OF TRUTH confirms this. It also confirms that God Almighty is the creator of both of them:

what is this one saying?
Re: Who Is This Allah (chapter 1) By G.J.O MOSHAY by OtemAtum: 8:43pm On Aug 11, 2017
Keenysbojan:
what is this one saying?

Lemme explain to you better. God ALMIGHTY created many beings; Allah is one of the beings created by God and Yahweh is another being created by God as well as Atum, Olorun, Abassi, Jupiter, Iweya and thousands of others.
If you had read the passage above, you would have seen how Asuku specifically mentioned Yahweh and Allah as separate entities. They are different entities. I can give you even more references regarding this.
Re: Who Is This Allah (chapter 1) By G.J.O MOSHAY by Keenysbojan(m): 9:22pm On Aug 11, 2017
OtemAtum:


Lemme explain to you better. God ALMIGHTY created many beings; Allah is one of the beings created by God and Yahweh is another being created by God as well as Atum, Olorun, Abassi, Jupiter, Iweya and thousands of others.
If you had read the passage above, you would have seen how Asuku specifically mentioned Yahweh and Allah as separate entities. They are different entities. I can give you even more references regarding this.
the question who is Asuku?
Re: Who Is This Allah (chapter 1) By G.J.O MOSHAY by OtemAtum: 9:40pm On Aug 11, 2017
Keenysbojan:
the question who is Asuku?
One of my descendants.
Re: Who Is This Allah (chapter 1) By G.J.O MOSHAY by OtemAtum: 9:41pm On Aug 11, 2017
Keenysbojan:
the question who is Asuku?
One of my ancestors.
Re: Who Is This Allah (chapter 1) By G.J.O MOSHAY by HMZi: 9:46pm On Aug 11, 2017
I have read it like twice,a powerful book.It exposes islam to the point that no sane being can doubt its truth...I LOVE THE BOOK and for obvíous reasons muslims hate it....
Re: Who Is This Allah (chapter 1) By G.J.O MOSHAY by Keenysbojan(m): 10:46pm On Aug 11, 2017
HMZi:
I have read it like twice,a powerful book.It exposes islam to the point that no sane being can doubt its truth...I LOVE THE BOOK and for obvíous reasons muslims hate it....
yeah u are right, dats i prefer nt to argue with them

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Re: Who Is This Allah (chapter 1) By G.J.O MOSHAY by Keenysbojan(m): 10:47pm On Aug 11, 2017
OtemAtum:

One of my ancestors.
you need to go and take ur drugs, it has been a while you've taken them
Re: Who Is This Allah (chapter 1) By G.J.O MOSHAY by OtemAtum: 11:27pm On Aug 11, 2017
Keenysbojan:
you need to go and take ur drugs, it has been a while you've taken them

Oh, so you think I don't have ancestors right! Is it possible for me or you or anyone not to have ancestors? I'm never on medical drug, so always get your facts right before you start talking. Wait, is it the Holy spirit that reveals to you that I'm on drug?
Anyway, Doctufos of truth given to me by Atum is my drug cheesy
See it here:
Re: Who Is This Allah (chapter 1) By G.J.O MOSHAY by OtemAtum: 11:28pm On Aug 11, 2017
Keenysbojan:
you need to go and take ur drugs, it has been a while you've taken them

Oh, so you think I don't have ancestors right! Is it possible for me or you or anyone not to have ancestors? I'm never on medical drug, so always get your facts right before you start talking. Wait, is it the Holy spirit that reveals to you that I'm on drug?
Anyway, Doctufos of truth given to me by Atum is my drug cheesy
See it here:

https://www.nairaland.com/2938907/doctrine-ufos
Re: Who Is This Allah (chapter 1) By G.J.O MOSHAY by worlexy(m): 5:39pm On Oct 24, 2017
Keenysbojan:
yeah u are right, dats i prefer nt to argue with them
Pls bro can you give me the link to download the book and "The Anatomy of the Quran " by the same author.
Thanks in anticipation
Re: Who Is This Allah (chapter 1) By G.J.O MOSHAY by UmarIbnShittu(m): 6:02pm On Oct 24, 2017
C person wey never finish knw him religion just come post nonsense

U c the way bible is being read Quran can't be read that way
Re: Who Is This Allah (chapter 1) By G.J.O MOSHAY by OtemSapien: 6:20pm On Oct 24, 2017
nnenneigbo:
Basically, Allah is the satan? God is God. End of story.
No, Yahweh got the title 'satan' while Allah got the title 'Lucifer'. But God Almighty created them both.
Re: Who Is This Allah (chapter 1) By G.J.O MOSHAY by OtemSapien: 6:31pm On Oct 24, 2017
Keenysbojan:
that's wrong of you. Yahweh is the God Almighty go and read ur bible. Allah and Yahweh are nt dsame
why are you referring me to the book of lies called the bible when I the DOCTUFOS OF TRUTH revealed? Maybe you should know, currently, Yahweh, Allah and all the gods of religions who are obsessed with being worshipped have been captured in a spiritual
Doctufos:
Otem Erectus 226:26-27

26. And they said, Otem of truth, we have overcome the gods by vacuums, so go and make known all the things which you have seen. For we imagined the vacuums with our thoughts for the capture of the gods who are antihumans.
27. And in the vacuums shall they be for a thousand years. This is the spiritual cage of all gods who oppose development. And focus shall be shifted from the words in the books to the thoughts of the heads.
Re: Who Is This Allah (chapter 1) By G.J.O MOSHAY by tartar9(m): 8:27pm On Oct 24, 2017
HMZi:
I have read it like twice,a powerful book.It exposes islam to the point that no sane being can doubt its truth...I LOVE THE BOOK and for obvíous reasons muslims hate it....
I couldn't agree better.Truly,it takes some touches of insanity to harbour any doubts regarding the absurdity of such puerile a work.
Re: Who Is This Allah (chapter 1) By G.J.O MOSHAY by olasesi(m): 9:27pm On Oct 24, 2017
Allah (English pronunciation: /ˈælə/ or /ˈɑːlə/;[1] Arabic: الله‎ Allāh, IPAsmiley is the Arabic word for God (al ilāh, literally "the God"wink.[2][3][4]

The word has cognates in other Semitic languages, including Elah in Aramaic, ʾĒl in Canaanite and Elohim in Hebrew.[5][6]

It is used mainly by Muslims to refer to God in Islam,[7] but it has also been used by Arab Christians since pre-Islamic times.[8]

It is written as ܐܠܗܐ (ʼĔlāhā) in Biblical Aramaic and ܐܲܠܵܗܵܐ (ʼAlâhâ) in Syriac as used by the Assyrian Church, both meaning simply "God".[17]

Pre-Islamic Christians, Jews and the monotheistic Arabs called Hanifs used the name Allah and the terms 'Bismillah', 'in the name of Allah' to refer to their supreme deity in Arabic stone inscriptions centuries before Islam.[29]

According to Böwering, in contrast with pre-Islamic Arabian polytheism, God in Islam does not have associates and companions, nor is there any kinship between God and jinn.[30]

According to Francis Edwards Peters, "The Qur’ān insists, Muslims believe, and historians affirm that Muhammad and his followers worship the same God as the Jews (29:46). The Qur’an's Allah is the same Creator God who covenanted with Abraham". Peters states that the Qur'an portrays Allah as both more powerful and more remote than Yahweh, and as a universal deity, unlike Yahweh who closely follows Israelites.[22]

The Aramaic word for "God" in the language of Assyrian Christians is ʼĔlāhā, or Alaha. Arabic-speakers of all Abrahamic faiths, including Christians and Jews, use the word "Allah" to mean "God".[5]

The Christian Arabs of today have no other word for "God" than "Allah".[21]

(Even the Arabic-descended Maltese language of Malta, whose population is almost entirely Roman Catholic, uses Alla for "God".) Arab Christians, for example, use the terms Allāh al-ab (الله الأب) for God the Father, Allāh al-ibn (الله الابن) for God the Son, and Allāh al-rūḥ al-quds (الله الروح القدس) for God the Holy Spirit. (See God in Christianity for the Christian concept of God.)

According to Marshall Hodgson, it seems that in the pre-Islamic times, some Arab Christians made pilgrimage to the Kaaba, a pagan temple at that time, honoring Allah there as God the Creator.[39]

Some archaeological excavation quests have led to the discovery of ancient pre-Islamic inscriptions and tombs made by Arabic-speaking Christians in the ruins of a church at Umm el-Jimal in Northern Jordan, which contained references to Allah as the proper name of God, and some of the graves contained names such as "Abd Allah" which means "the servant/slave of Allah".[40][41][42]
The name Allah can be found countless times in the reports and the lists of names of Christian martyrs in South Arabia, as reported by antique Syriac documents of the names of those martyrs from the era of the Himyarite and Aksumite kingdoms.[8][43]

In pre-Islamic Gospels, the name used for God was "Allah", as evidenced by some discovered Arabic versions of the New Testament written by Arab Christians during the pre-Islamic era in Northern and Southern Arabia.[47][48][49]

Pre-Islamic Arab Christians have been reported to have raised the battle cry "Ya La Ibad Allah" (O slaves of Allah) to invoke each other into battle.[50]

"Allah" was also mentioned in pre-Islamic Christian poems by some Ghassanid and Tanukhid poets in Syria and Northern Arabia.[51][52][53]

References:
1 "Allah". Random House Webster's Unabridged Dictionary.

2 "God". Islam: Empire of Faith. PBS. Archived from the original on 2014-03-27. Retrieved 18 December 2010.

3 "Islam and Christianity", Encyclopedia of Christianity (2001): Arabic-speaking Christians and Jews also refer to God as Allāh.

4 L. Gardet. "Allah". Encyclopaedia of Islam Online.

5 Columbia Encyclopedia, Allah

6 Brown, Francis; Driver, S.R.; Briggs, Charles. A. Hebrew and English Lexicon. Peabody, Massachusetts: Hendricksen. p. 41, entry 410 1.b. ISBN 9781565632066.

7 Merriam-Webster. "Allah". Merriam-Webster. Archived from the original on 2014-04-20. Retrieved 25 February 2012.

8 Rick Brown, Who was 'Allah' before Islam? Evidence that the term 'Allah' originated with Jewish and Christian Arabs (2007), page 8.

17 The Comprehensive Aramaic Lexicon – Entry for ʼlh Archived October 18, 2013 at the Wayback Machine

21 Lewis, Bernard; Holt, P. M.; Holt, Peter R.; Lambton, Ann Katherine Swynford (1977). The Cambridge history of Islam. Cambridge, Eng: University Press. p. 32. ISBN 978-0-521-29135-4.

22 F.E. Peters, Islam, p.4, Princeton University Press, 2003

29 Hitti, Philip Khouri (2002-09-06). History of the Arabs. Basingstoke: Palgrave Macmillan. p. 800. ISBN 9780333631423.

30 Böwering, Gerhard, God and His Attributes, Encyclopaedia of the Qurʼān, Brill, 2007.

39 Marshall G. S. Hodgson, The Venture of Islam: Conscience and History in a World Civilization, University of Chicago Press, p. 156

40 James Bellamy, "Two Pre-Islamic Arabic Inscriptions Revised: Jabal Ramm and Umm al-Jimal", Journal of the American Oriental Society, 108/3 (1988)

41 Enno Littmann, Arabic Inscriptions (Leiden, 1949)

42 Rick Brown, Who is "Allah" ? - International Journal of Frontier Missions, (23:2 Summer 2006), page 80.

43 Ignatius Ya`qub III, The Arab Himyarite Martyrs in the Syriac Documents (1966), Pages: 9-65-66-89

45 Adolf Grohmann, Arabische Paläographie II: Das Schriftwesen und die Lapidarschrift (1971), Wien: Hermann Böhlaus Nochfolger, Page: 6-8

46 Beatrice Gruendler, The Development of the Arabic Scripts: From the Nabatean Era to the First Islamic Century according to Dated Texts (1993), Atlanta: Scholars Press, Page:

47 Rick Brown, Who was 'Allah' before Islam? Evidence that the term 'Allah' originated with Jewish and Christian Arabs (2007), page 10.

48 Frederick Winnett V, Allah before Islam-The Moslem World (1938), Pages: 239–248

49 Michael Macdonald, Personal Names in the Nabataean Realm-Journal Of Semitic Studies (1999), Page: 271

50 Irfan Shahîd, Byzantium and the Arabs in the Fourth Century, Dumbarton Oaks Trustees for Harvard University-Washington DC, page 418.

51 Irfan Shahîd, Byzantium and the Arabs in the Fourth Century, Dumbarton Oaks Trustees for Harvard University-Washington DC, Page: 452

52 A. Amin and A. Harun, Sharh Diwan Al-Hamasa (Cairo, 1951), Vol. 1, Pages: 478-480

53 Al-Marzubani, Mu'jam Ash-Shu'araa, Page: 302

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