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Re: Christianity Or Islam Which Religion First Existed? by Nobody: 2:37pm On Feb 28, 2016
God permit prophet mohammed to marry a six year old child and furking hell out his eyes at that tender age,is such a person a prophet sent by God,blood shedding of opposite faith is allowed and taken their woman captives for sex is allowed.A prophet that can Bleep 11 woman from morning till night giving the power of 30 men by god to do so.Some religion is too fake to believe and totally built on lust of the flesh, that is why in northern and some western part of Nigeria, 30% of girls between the ages of 6 and 12 are suffering from verginal and anal disorder,leaking bladder all because of a prophet of god.

[b]Bukhari (5:268) - "The Prophet used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day and night and they were eleven in number." I asked Anas, "Had the Prophet the strength for it?" Anas replied, "We used to say that the Prophet was given the strength of thirty men.
Re: Christianity Or Islam Which Religion First Existed? by Newnas(m): 11:33am On Feb 29, 2016
gimakon:


One question, when you say your prayers, you say in mohammeds name? If the answer is no, we say in Jesus name, O lord hear our prayers, guide and protect us, in Jesus name.

Jesus said I am the way, the truth and the life, no one comes to the father only by me. If we solicit for our selves and we ask God for things through his own child, I don't see it as wrong doctrine. The same way we see it, is the same way you see mohammed.

What if I say the mosaic laws of moses, you worship moses, because virtually old testament laws is what every Muslim follows.

See how silly and dragging you talk. Ok your Quran speaks of Jesus as Al mashish,i do hear muslims saying they have accepted Jesus as prophet and Allah as his god, so many things... I would conclude and say the only confused religion in the world is islam. as much as they confuse you,they confuse themselves also.

I didn't bother to read about your ibrahim, false tales are what your imams preach, I wonder how one person would practice a religion and would make you come here to say islam is the oldest religion, do you realise that a religion is accepted by many? Let someone like me form one new religion and see how people would look at me.

No day confuse me jare.
Re: Christianity Or Islam Which Religion First Existed? by tartar9(m): 5:04pm On Feb 29, 2016
Amberon:
[s]so wonder the Arab world has not invented anything or contributed to any scientific discovery. inbred fellow[/s].
you just confirmed that you are one big ignorant human being.
Re: Christianity Or Islam Which Religion First Existed? by Banjoramos(m): 9:07pm On Feb 29, 2016
FreeBoss:
Christianity or Islam which religion first existed?
Bible or Quaran which one was first written going
by history?



From veteran historians and history lovers, I want
to know from you which one of the two first existed,
christianity or islam?
Salam Brother Freeboss,

Thank you for your question

Let me first correct your statement that “Christianity or Islam which religion first existed?”. On the contrary, it can be proved that Islam came to correct the deviations of Christians and Jews away from the original message, which was basically Islam. It is the message by which all Prophets were sent, starting with Adam to the seal of prophets, Muhammad, peace be upon them all.

This can be verified through a careful unbiased reading of the Bible itself. The Bible is a collection of human books documenting the traditions of the Israelites and early Christians. Hence, they are not the word of God. Yet, whatever is attributed therein to either Moses or Jesus can be shown to directly nullify the major beliefs advocated by the Christian Churches.

God – in the Bible - is “One” according to the following examples:

“Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is One Lord.” (Deuteronomy 6:4)

“Know therefore this day, and consider it in thine heart, that the Lord He is God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none else.”
(Deuteronomy 4:39)

“And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is One Lord: (Mark 12:29)

“Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and Him only shalt thou serve. (Matthews 4:10)

Regarding the so-called “divine sonship” of Jesus, Jesus himself referred to God as “Father”, i.e. Guardian, Provider, Cherisher … etc. for all people, including Jesus:

“And he said unto them: ‘When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.’” (Luke 11:2)

“Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.” (Matthews 5: 9)

“That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret Himself shall reward thee openly.” (Matthews 6:4)

“Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them: ‘I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.’” (John 20:17)

Jesus even repeatedly – in the Bible - referred to himself as the “son of Man”:

“And Jesus saith unto him: ‘The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the son of Man hath not where to lay his head.’” (Matthews 8:20)

“And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the son of Man be lifted up.” (John 3:14)

Actually, the claimed “original sin and atonement” contradicts the Bible:

“The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers. Every man shall be put to death for his own sin.” (Deuteronomy 24:16)

“But every one shall die for his own iniquity: every man that eateth the sour grape, his teeth shall be set on edge.” (Jeremiah 31:30)

“The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.” (Ezkiel 18:20)

It is a fact that children are born sinless, so the “original sin” cannot be inherited:

“But Jesus said: ‘Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.’” (Matthews 19:14)

Why then should God – unjustly - sacrifice his “alleged” son to die on the cross and be raised from among the dead, for the salvation of all humanity? Here again we are faced with a contradiction to the sayings of Jesus:

“Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.” (Matthews 7:1-2)

It was Paul, not Jesus, who advocated these claims, against the original teachings of Jesus:

“Then was Saul [Paul] certain days with the disciples which were at Damascus.
And straightway he preached Christ in the synagogues, that he is the Son of God.” (Acts 9:19-20)

“And some said: ‘What will this babbler [Paul] say?’ Other some: ‘He seemeth to be a setter forth of strange gods: because he preached unto them Jesus, and the resurrection.’” (Acts 17:18)

“Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my [Paul’s] gospel.” (2 Timothy 2:cool

To conclude, Islam accepts and is the completed final version of the previous messages originally revealed to Moses and Jesus, as well as Abraham, Noah …etc.

In the Quran, Allah Almighty says what means:

{Truly, the religion with Allah is Islam. Those who were given the Scripture (Jews and Christians) did not differ except, out of mutual jealousy, after knowledge had come to them. And whoever disbelieves in the Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, signs, revelations, etc.) of Allah, then surely, Allah is Swift in calling to account.}
(Aal-Imran 3:19)

Allah Almighty also says what means:

He (Allah) has ordained for you the same religion (Islam) which He ordained for Nooh (Noah), and that which We have inspired in you (O Muhammad), and that which We ordained for Ibraheem (Abraham), Moosa (Moses) and Iesa (Jesus) saying you should establish religion (i.e. to do what it orders you to do practically), and make no divisions in it (religion) (i.e. various sects in religion). Intolerable for the Mushrikoon, is that to which you (O Muhammad) call them. Allah chooses for Himself whom He wills, and guides unto Himself who turns to Him in repentance and in obedience.

And they divided not till after knowledge had come to them, through selfish transgression between themselves. And had it not been for a Word that went forth before from your Lord for an appointed term, the matter would have been settled between them. And verily, those who were made to inherit the Scripture (i.e. the Taurah (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)) after them (i.e. Jews and Christians) are in grave doubt concerning it (i.e. Allahs true religion Islam or the Quran).

So unto this (religion of Islam, alone and this Quran) then invite (people) (O Muhammad), and Istaqim ((i.e. stand firm and straight on Islamic Monotheism by performing all that is ordained by Allah (good deeds, etc.), and by abstaining from all that is forbidden by Allah (sins and evil deeds, etc.)), as you are commanded, and follow not their desires but say: "I believe in whatsoever Allah has sent down of the Book (all the holy Books, this Quran and the Books of the old from the Taurat (Torah), or the Injeel (Gospel) or the Pages of Ibrahim (Abraham)) and I am commanded to do justice among you, Allah is our Lord and your Lord. For us our deeds and for you your deeds. There is no dispute between us and you. Allah will assemble us (all), and to Him is the final return.
{Quran 42:13-15}

Thus, Islam is the first and the only message to remain preserved intact to the end-of-time. Allah also says what means:
{Surely We, Ever We, have been sending down the Remembrance, and surely We are indeed Preservers of it.} (Al-Hijr 15:9)

I hope my answer is satisfactory. If you need any more clarification please do not hesitate to contact us again. Thank you again for your question and please keep in touch.

Salam.
Re: Christianity Or Islam Which Religion First Existed? by Amberon: 9:59pm On Feb 29, 2016
direct your frustration at your prophet, not me. The entire Arab world has achieved absolutely nothing.
tartar9:

you just confirmed that you are one big ignorant human being.
Re: Christianity Or Islam Which Religion First Existed? by tartar9(m): 11:15pm On Feb 29, 2016
Amberon:
direct your frustration at your prophet, not me. The entire Arab world has achieved absolutely nothing.
no need arguing,you yourself know you're lying.someone can't be this ignorant undecided

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Re: Christianity Or Islam Which Religion First Existed? by Amberon: 12:14am On Mar 01, 2016
nah... I'm not used to al taquiya. Google is your friend. Or better still, consult your Arabic websites for more info.
tartar9:

no need arguing,you yourself know you're lying.someone can't be this ignorant undecided
Re: Christianity Or Islam Which Religion First Existed? by Annunaki(m): 6:51am On Mar 01, 2016
tartar9:

no need arguing,you yourself know you're lying.someone can't be this ignorant undecided

Apart from islamic terrorism, what else have your arab slave masters contributed to the modern world
Re: Christianity Or Islam Which Religion First Existed? by Blackfire(m): 9:12am On Mar 01, 2016
Annunaki:


Apart from islamic terrorism, what else have your arab slave masters contributed to the modern world

haba why are u talking like this annunaki, Islam contributed alot to our society especially here in Africa, y'Allah we thank u for mohamed who invented chewing stick for my grand parents here in Africa.

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Re: Christianity Or Islam Which Religion First Existed? by darkenrahl2(m): 9:39am On Mar 01, 2016
gimakon:


One question, when you say your prayers, you say in mohammeds name? If the answer is no, we say in Jesus name, O lord hear our prayers, guide and protect us, in Jesus name.

Jesus said I am the way, the truth and the life, no one comes to the father only by me. If we solicit for our selves and we ask God for things through his own child, I don't see it as wrong doctrine. The same way we see it, is the same way you see mohammed.

What if I say the mosaic laws of moses, you worship moses, because virtually old testament laws is what every Muslim follows.

See how silly and dragging you talk. Ok your Quran speaks of Jesus as Al mashish,i do hear muslims saying they have accepted Jesus as prophet and Allah as his god, so many things... I would conclude and say the only confused religion in the world is islam. as much as they confuse you,they confuse themselves also.

I didn't bother to read about your ibrahim, false tales are what your imams preach, I wonder how one person would practice a religion and would make you come here to say islam is the oldest religion, do you realise that a religion is accepted by many? Let someone like me form one new religion and see how people would look at me.

No day confuse me jare.
Mr gimakon can you tell me where exactly it is in your bible that religion is name Christianity
Re: Christianity Or Islam Which Religion First Existed? by Annunaki(m): 10:07am On Mar 01, 2016
Blackfire:


haba why are u talking like this annunaki, Islam contributed alot to our society especially here in Africa, y'Allah we thank u for mohamed who invented chewing stick for my grand parents here in Africa.

grin grin grin
Re: Christianity Or Islam Which Religion First Existed? by tartar9(m): 12:02pm On Mar 01, 2016
Annunaki:


Apart from islamic terrorism, what else have your arab slave masters contributed to the modern world
if you like deny from now till you die,you can't change the history books,Arabs only due to Islam have already made their mark.You should be more consigned with what your own black race have ever contributed than fighting over your white master.
Re: Christianity Or Islam Which Religion First Existed? by Nobody: 4:48pm On Mar 01, 2016
darkenrahl2:
Mr gimakon can you tell me where exactly it is in your bible that religion is name Christianity


Acts 11:26
New International Version (NIV)

26 and when he found him, he brought him to Antioch. So for a whole year Barnabas and Saul met with the church and taught great numbers of people. The disciples were called Christians first at Antioch.

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