WesleyanA:

I share your sentiments.
It would have made a whole lot more sense if the Iraqians did it themselves

Bush sucks. funny how his family used to be business partners with Hussein in some oil deals.

that Bush monkey.
his war probably killed more iraqians than hussein himself did.
now everyone hates the US.

U see this is what happens when girls who belong on threads discussing menstruation start discussing politics.

Bush family and Saddam used to do oil deals?

Bush killed more "iraqians"than Saddam?

Who cares if all the Shia and Kurdish parties approve of hanging Saddam?

Who cares if tens of thousands of iraqis actually helped to carry out the invasion?

Who cares that most Iraqi Army Divisions did not show up to defend Iraq during the invasion?

Who cares what Iraqis think anyway?

All that matters is our opinion,we may not have lived under Saddam but we reserve the right to lecture anyone including Iraqis as to how to treat Saddam,afterall we followed the whole thing on CNN

4play, i think you should shut ya mouth if you can't stand to hear or ignore someone who has a different opinion than you have.
seriously though. . .

WesleyanA and 4play

there is no better word to describe whats going on being you two than old skool romance.

WesleyanA:

4play, i think you should shut ya mouth

Yes ma I will try and keep my mouth shut

NB:Did u see the thread on latest tampons from Pfizer?U should go there cos that is where u belong

tais-toi, bete! you must be extremely gay to be reading tampon threads.

@reverend

nice pix u posted here but these are similar arab pix of isreali kiiling arabs

is it only women and children saddam killed?

an average nigerian man wouldnt leave his wife and chidren in time of crisis to come crying later he would be there with them go ask those that saw the civil war they would tell u


this pix are stage managed cos only the dead are women and children

I read a post here about a nigerian guy being sentenced to hang in China for being caught with illegal drugs.
He is 18 or 19 years old.

No mercy or sympathy was given to this young man since he disgraced Nigeria and Nigerians.  Everyone said he deserved to be hanged in that post.

Now, Saddam Husein, a proven notorious dictator, oppressor and murderer of the innocent has been hanged, and people are raising their hands and wailing "Woe to President Bush"

Mercy and sympathy for a strange and wicked man, from a strange and wicked land where they do not fear Jehovah God.

,  interesting ,

I'm happy for world that saddam has gone, but i hope our Nigeria leaders that do silent killing will be passing away one by one soon, ire ooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Saddam Hussein's hanging was more than an act of justice spearheaded by the US, he was a scape goat, and an example for all who would stand up against the US.

It's also a brilliant distraction from the fact that this whole thing started with 911 and the Bush adminstration declared that they would smoke out Osama Bin Laden and all responsible for this horrible act against humanity. Being translated that means "How dare they do this to the US, we are all powerful, he messed with the wrong country"

But they never found Bin Laden, and in all the melee and fracas, when they weren't getting anywhere finding Bin Laden, they started to accuse Saddam of having "mass weapons of destruction", which again, were NEVER FOUND!

So okay, they got him on crimes against humanity.

So how did it shift from finding Bin Laden, to hanging Saddam Hussein.

For all the 911 deaths, for all the english and americans brutally beheaded on and off camera by muslims, for all the soldiers stationed at iraq who lost and continue to lose their lives and for the rising prices of oil, Saddam Husein was the first US retaliation.

Interesting enough, if you do your research you will find that the Bush family were friends with the Bin Laden family before, and right after 911 many of his family were rushed out of the US back to their homeland.

What does killing Saddam prove? Well, when muslims can kill in the name of their Allah, what does that prove? Does that undo any alleged injustice to them? What is "Holy" war?

If muslims believe they can murder other human beings in the name of their god, then why can't Saddam be killed in the name of justice??

Saddam was just a scapegoat, but when you live by the sword, you die by it.

The US may have helped Iran in this case to get rid of its main enemy without knowing it.

The bottomline is that Iraq will simply be another Iran with a full nation based on Islamic rule, something Saddam opposed which by the way was partly responsible for the distancing of other Arab nations to Iraq.

Iraq had a christain as the VP even though the christains in that country amounted to less than 3%, churches were burnt for the first time in Iraq after the fall of Saddam, something no one would attempt under his rule.

No single suicide attack was carried out in Iraq under Saddam, but today Iraq is now a haven for recruiting terrorists, thanks to the lying Bush and his co travellers.

But is it correct to execute Saddam? Yes, but not for the charges he faced. His sentencing was more of a revenge and vengeance than it was for justice.

Saddam should have been executed for gassing of the Kurds (even though the US provided him with the chemical weapons, part of which were previously used against Iranians) which amounted to genocide as those people were never tried for any crimes.

The killing of the over 140 people in Dujail cannot stand as an offence that will result in a death penalty on the part of Saddam because those people were arrested, tried and sentenced to death after a failed assasination attempt, Saddam only signed the death warrants just like Bush today signs death warrants brought before him and just the same way the Iraqi PM signed his death warrant even when they had to bend the rule to kill Saddam as a key requirement was waived when the Iraqi President refused to sign it as he was opposed to the death penalty.

If Saddam could be killed for siging the death warrants for people already condemned to death by the courts then Bush, Arnold Schwarzenneger & co should be executed for signing death warrants brought before them.

Unfortunately, many of us allow the media to think for us instead of picking information from what they say and making sense of the information as no one can understand a message unless you understand the creator and the motive for the message.

Many people are executed around the World each day for far less serious crimes than Saddam had committed. What ever way you want to look at it he was a murderer. He used Iraq as his private playground and abused and killed in cold blood his own people.

Many of you in this thread have expressed sadness at his death. I find that very strange but not suprising.

Many of you are affected directly or indirectly by the activities of the 419 scammers and the negative effect it has on Nigeria, but many of you are the first to defend their actions and probably quite a few of you have at one time been involved. You support the very thing that is destroying your community and future from within.

It is very sad that certain people who have contributed to this thread choose Saddam Hussein to be some kind of hero figure! He was just a criminal and a murderous despot. Nothing more, nothing less!

If this mentality persists, then there can be little hope for a free and prosperous Nigeria in the future

The main reason people are here is because of the US. Any excuse to take a pop. That's okay though. If Saddam was overthrown ripped to pieces in front of camera, there would probably be half the noise we're getting now.

The victims of Saddam are the ones that matter and they have been done right. Nairaland users will have forgotten Saddam by next week.

Reverend:

Many of you in this thread have expressed sadness at his death. I find that very strange but not suprising.

Many of you are affected directly or indirectly by the activities of the 419 scammers and the negative effect it has on Nigeria, but many of you are the first to defend their actions and probably quite a few of you have at one time been involved. You support the very thing that is destroying your community and future from within.

It is very sad that certain people who have contributed to this thread choose Saddam Hussein to be some kind of hero figure! He was just a criminal and a murderous despot. Nothing more, nothing less!

If this mentality persists, then there can be little hope for a free and prosperous Nigeria in the future

On the contrary, I believe you are the one showing happiness at the execution of someone as if the death of someone is something that one should celebrate.

I have not read on this thread where anyone is supporting Saddam, unless you take any post that does not agree with your position to mean support for Saddam.

The process leading to his death is improper with the US playing a very important role from funding the trial to holding him from 2003 to just 30 hours before his death.

I do not know if reverend is your nickname, title or realname but reverend is associated with christainity to the best of my knowledge and can you state that your happiness at the death of someone is what christainity teaches you?

As Mariory stated earlier, people are using his death to take a pop at the US!

In reference to the Christianity nonsense. It just does not fly with me or make any sense whatsoever.

Just like the ever merciful Allah, it is utter bullshit. Try telling that to Iranian women when they are hanged or your local preacher when he tell you that God loves you, but if you sin you will burn in hell for eternity.

DO WHAT I SAY OR YOU WILL SUFFER! Nice message,

Saddam is dead and the World has to be a better place because of it. If you are a Bible maniac you will be well aware of the saying 'those of you who live by the sword will die by the sword' , At least that seems to be true in this case anyway!

As for his trial. At least he had one, most of Saddam's victims were killed without any chance to speak or defend themselves,

Interesting response.

1. The US is heavily involved from start to finish so it is not out of place for anyone to involve the US while discussing the death of Saddam.

2. Those who live by the sword, , an eye for an eye, etc are ways that made sense before christianity ever came into being (focusing on christianity), I actually wanted to know what the Reverend connotes as a username used by you so one can understand how to treat your comments.

3. Saddam had a trial even though many agree the trial was not a fair one. But again he was sentenced to death for siging the death warrants of people that were actually tried in the law courts. Infact, one of the 3 that were sentenced to death was the judge that headed the trial that found the over 140 people guitly and subsequent death sentence.

Put differently, Saddam was killed for the same crime that Bush carries out against his people (since signing death warrants for people already convicted and sentenced to death by law courts amounts to crimes).

Celebrating the death of anyone is not something anyone should be proud of doing.

The Americans did not want the execution to be carried out so quickly, but the Iraqi prime minister insisted on it.
He had apparently made a promise that Saddam would be dead before the end of 2006. According to CNN,

Afam:


1. The US is heavily involved from start to finish so it is not out of place for anyone to involve the US while discussing the death of Saddam.

I agree that they are of course involved. But the point was that many people on this forum use any excuse to take a shot at the US for all kinds of twisted reasons!

Afam:

I actually wanted to know what the Reverend connotes as a username used by you so one can understand how to treat your comments.

We should never look too much into names I am a Reverend of Humanity

Afam:

Saddam had a trial even though many agree the trial was not a fair one. But again he was sentenced to death for siging the death warrants of people that were actually tried in the law courts. Infact, one of the 3 that were sentenced to death was the judge that headed the trial that found the over 140 people guitly and subsequent death sentence.
Put differently, Saddam was killed for the same crime that Bush carries out against his people (since signing death warrants for people already convicted and sentenced to death by law courts amounts to crimes).

Everybody is aware of his crimes. People face the death penalty for a single murder. I think it is fair to assume that Saddam got what was coming to him. He was executed for the sum of his crimes.

Afam:

Celebrating the death of anyone is not something anyone should be proud of doing.

I agree

You see, part of the problem with the execution was that it had nothing to do with any of the well documents crimes he commited and there are many but had everything to do with the Dujail case which would not stand as a crime in any sane court because all he did was sign the death warrants, same thing that Bush still performs till date.

I do not support the idea of using any twisted reasons to attack the US but I believe there are a lot of correct and clear statements out in the public domain that are enough for anyone to say hey "the role of the US is condemnable or that the US supervised everything from start to finish".

Anytime one points out the deafening silence that accompanied Saddam's massacres of Iraqis in the 90s and 80s,one is


met with the nauseating reply "the US did nothing as well",as if that logically justifys why the rest of humanity was not

bothered by these massacres but is strangely bothered by the hanging of the man largely responsible for the

massacres

RESIDENTS of some parts of the country are now gripped with fear over the threat by some fanatics to protest the execution of the former Iraqi president, Saddam Hussein.

Nigerian Tribune gathered that various Islamic groups in Plateau, Yobe, Kano, Borno, Sokoto, the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja, and many other states were now organising themselves to unleash terror on non-indigenes in those parts of the country.


Non-indigenes of the area and some Christian leaders, the Nigerian Tribune gathered, were also making plans to seek refuge in some security quarters in the states to protect their lives.


Intelligence reports from the security agencies also confirmed that some Muslim fanatics were planning mayhem on non-Muslims all over the country.


Police Commissioner of the Federal Capital Territory (FCT), Mr. Lawrence Alobi, disclosed to the Nigerian Tribune in a telephone interview in Abuja on Monday that “the fanatics also planned to attack churches and properties of non-Muslims.”


He, however, said that the police were ready to curtail the potential insurgence and advised residents of the FCT and other parts of the country not to panic, but to go about their normal daily activities.


He said security had been beefed up around all churches in Abuja following the intelligence report.


In Plateau State, there was a wild display by some youths while coming from the Muslim prayer ground on Saturday. The youth, who rode in trucks, threatened inhabitants with cutlasses, clubs, spears and swords.


Nigerian Tribune gathered that residents of Ahmadu Bello Way, Abattoir Road, Bauchi Road, Terminus area and other parts of Jos were disturbed by the threats of the fanatics.


In Yobe State, a group called Shittes planned demonstrations in Potiskum, threatening to stage a vengeance protest against the execution of Saddam.


The protest in Potiskum was, however, nipped in the bud by the state Commissioner of Police, Mr. Eugene Njepu, and the Emir of Potiskum. The situation in Kano State was calm on Tuesday after threats by some Islamic fundamentalists.


But, the Nigerian Tribune gathered that the group had only postponed its action. Nigerian Tribune gathered further that the Federal Government had sent a signal through the office of the Inspector General of Police, Mr. Sunday Ehindero, that security be beefed up across the country to prevent a situation where the security forces could be caught napping.


According to another source, police formations across the country, together with other security and intelligence agencies, had fortified their various states. Saddam, who ruled Iraq for about 30 years, was overthrown four years ago after the invasion of the country by forces led by the United States.


Meanwhile, a Lagos-based Non-Governmental Organisation (NGO), Human Rights Watch (HRW), has condemned the execution of the former Iraqi leader, saying “Saddam Hussein was responsible for massive human rights violations, but that can’t justify giving him the death penalty, which is cruel and inhuman punishment.”


Speaking through its director of International Justice Programme, Mr. Richard Dicker, it stated that HRW had for more than 15 years documented the human rights crimes committed by Hussein’s government, and had campaigned to bring the perpetrators to justice”, stressing that this did not mean that Hussein should be executed.


The group, in a statement, said it was opposed to the death penalty in all circumstances, noting that “increasingly, governments are abolishing the death penalty in domestic law. “The test of a government’s commitment to human rights is measured by the way it treats its worst offenders”, said Dicker in the statement, noting that “history will judge these actions harshly.”


Hussein was tried by a tribunal for crimes against humanity. The tribunal, which was backed by the United States, passed a death sentence on him in November for ordering the execution of about 140 Shiites.


Saddam was hanged on Saturday which incidentally fell on a Muslim festival and this angered some Muslims around the world. Immediately after his execution, Libya declared three days of national mourning for him just like Saudi Arabia which disrupted its aviation and telecommunications networks, while in Nigeria, the execution elicited mixed feelings among Muslims.


A report issued in November 2006 by Human Rights Watch identified numerous flaws in the trial of Hussein for the Dujail executions. The 97-page report, “Judging Dujail: The First Trial Before the Iraqi High Tribunal,” according to HRW, was based on 10 months of observation and dozens of interviews with judges, prosecutors and defence lawyers.

If this one happens again in Nigeria I will personally join protest calling for division of Nigeria. How long shall we continue like this? why should the death of Sadam Hussein even warrant insecurity in Nigeria? how does it concern Nigeria? If this happens then those who say Nigeria is never one and should not be one is not wrong afterall.

McKren:

If this one happens again in Nigeria I will personally join protest calling for division of Nigeria. How long shall we continue like this? why should the death of Sadam Hussein even warrant insecurity in Nigeria? how does it concern Nigeria? If this happens then those who say Nigeria is never one and should not be one is not wrong afterall.

u can say that again
those he -goats from the north thinks they r smart and use every opportunity they have to remind us islam is a religion of peace and slaughtering

restraint is not weakness it simple means buying time but i believe we have bought enough time

Enough is enough; any attempt my muslims to misbehave on account of saddam's death will be firmly resisted.

I believe the muslims in the North know better as regards attacking christians based on things that happen outside Nigeria.

If it indeed happens, it will be a simple case of retaliation and revenge so they should know that no one will just relax and wait for christians to be killed like that.

This is part of the problem being caused by the US when its president claims that God asked him to attack Iraq, one of the countries he labelled axis of evil even though he is responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths in a war based on outright lies.

It bothers me that some people are trying to use this thread as an avenue to propagate hate and attack muslims.  I believe your faith does not encourage you to do this.

Like I said before, there is no big deal if Saddam gets hanged, afterall he is a killer.  Lesser criminals have been killed without the batting of an eyelid.

However, being a high-profile execution, it begs the opportunity for retrospection. 

Should we support the Death Penalty? 
Does the US have the moral or legal right to orchestrate Saddam's execution?  Their excuse?
Who has caused more deaths, more suffering in Iraq and indeed other parts of the world?  Saddam or The Bush family?

Are we so blind as to see a few Americans' unflinching pursuit of blood money at the expense of developing countries like ours?

Bioye shame on to you for your contribution and no apologies for that. Arabs don't like us africans and so it makes no sense for any Nigerian to attack a fellow Nigerian in the Name of Saddam or Religion, people on this thread both christains and muslims criticized how saddam died never mind he did worst things to his fellow iraqis and muslims for that matter.
You know what Bioye if people begin to kill others because of christainity I will criticize them and if they don't change[b] I will denounce my religion[/b]. Its as simple as that.
If muslims can't call their muslim brothers to order or begin to take the lead in bringing the fanatics among you to order then you [b]guys need to explain to us what Islam is all about.[/b]The life of a Nigerian who is your compatriot is more important than those of 1million Arabs in middle east, you understand?

@Mckren,

Please, go carefully through my post.  Is there anything in their that supports muslims attacking christians (either verbally or physically) or even vice versa?  No.

I do not support violence in the name of Islam and there are appropriate threads for that discussion.  This thread is about the killing of Saddam and circumstances surrounding it.  (Has any Nigerians been killed as a result of Saddam's execution?)

Can we practise some religious tolerance and keep to the subject of the thread, please?

Whether we like it or not, these religions are simply extensions of foreign cultures fighting for supremacy among those of us who have pledged blindly to denounce our cultures.  Now, that's what I call Shame.

It bothers me that some people are trying to use this thread as an avenue to propagate hate and attack muslims. I believe your faith does not encourage you to do this.

Only God knows what you were getting at with that, the tribune has said it that there is security tension and you can not doubt it. Do we have to wait for someone to die before we act?
If people have reacted to mere cartoons then you can understand my fears. Bioye no point putting up a baseless argument take the responsibility call someone you know and advice them to discourage whoever cares to listen from attacking fellow country men cos of middle east politics.

bioye:

It bothers me that some people are trying to use this thread as an avenue to propagate hate and attack muslims. I believe your faith does not encourage you to do this.

I think the reproduced post above is out of order and trying to excuse this will be an effort in futility.

Saddam has been hanged . .
the others his half-brother and a former judge will be hanged on thursday ,
what else is new?
have the insurgents stop bombin yet?
has the shites and sunni reconciled yet?
and that stupid prime minister cant stand the heat in the kitchen
he asked for it . .he'll get it . .
slowpoke

The reality is that you can not teach heathens democratic values. I have come to the conclusion that everywhere on this planet where Islam is the predominate religion, the citizens can only be controlled by ruthless dictators.

When the threat of immediate death for any anti government rhetoric or action is carried out without mercy and the people are repressed, there seems to be order. As soon as people are given the choice to rule and decide on the future of their own Country they always decide to start a murderous spree of death defying proportions!

More people have died as a result of Iraq being liberated, more than Saddam Hussein could have ever killed and how many more victims will die in the coming weeks?

The Verdict:

Muslims living in Islamic states do not understand the concept of democracy. Law and order can only be kept when those people are controlled by murderous dictators using ruthless and cruel actions

Maybe many will be killed as a result, but far fewer than if we interfere

Reverend:


Maybe many will be killed as a result, but far fewer than if we interfere

thank you . .Iraq is gettin worst everyday . .now that idiot wants to run away . .

But i don't see any point why saddam was hanged afterall, is not going to stop violence in iraq, but it would make it worst, not some sunni muslims are protesting including saddam's daughter