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Re: Egyptian Devaluation Backfires -- Nigeria, Be Thankful!!! by Adminisher: 4:36pm On Apr 23, 2016
Ijaya123:


Most of them are simply filled with needless hatred and have little or no space for any sensible attributes again.

The average WAILER is some half educated, unemployed ni wit in some SE state, too educated for trading and not too smart to get a job. They spend their days typing stuff off the top of their heads without thinking first. If I flash a picture of Jonathan here now you will see the lost, pre- programmed lost kids posting worshipful and untrue accolades to the man's fake smile and confused looks. Only God himself will deliver this generation.

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Re: Egyptian Devaluation Backfires -- Nigeria, Be Thankful!!! by Excuzeme: 4:41pm On Apr 23, 2016
tsdarkside:



i noticed one thing about the wailers.....

their phantasy explode when it comes to abusing people....

but when it comes to presenting solutions............................................................................mute!!!!!.......




There is a very good reason they are called #WAILERS now....

They are all "curses" and no reason/sense! grin grin

Very bitter set of senseless HEediots.

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Re: Egyptian Devaluation Backfires -- Nigeria, Be Thankful!!! by Excuzeme: 4:44pm On Apr 23, 2016
Adminisher:


The average WAILER is some half educated, unemployed ni wit in some SE state, too educated for trading and not too smart to get a job. They spend their days typing stuff off the top of their heads without thinking first. If I flash a picture of Jonathan here now you will see the lost, pre- programmed lost kids posting worshipful and untrue accolades to the man's fake smile and confused looks. Only God himself will deliver this generation.

Let us give this your HYPOTHESIS a TRIAL.

I will flash Jonathan's picture and see what happens!
grin grin

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Re: Egyptian Devaluation Backfires -- Nigeria, Be Thankful!!! by Ijaya123: 4:54pm On Apr 23, 2016
Adminisher:


The average WAILER is some half educated, unemployed ni wit in some SE state, too educated for trading and not too smart to get a job. They spend their days typing stuff off the top of their heads without thinking first. If I flash a picture of Jonathan here now you will see the lost, pre- programmed lost kids posting worshipful and untrue accolades to the man's fake smile and confused looks. Only God himself will deliver this generation.

You have said it all.

Their clueless hero that practically brought this country to its knees and we are still struggling to get up.

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Re: Egyptian Devaluation Backfires -- Nigeria, Be Thankful!!! by MrPresident1: 5:04pm On Apr 23, 2016
Excuzeme:


America and the IMF are not smiling at any move for Nigeria to peg to the Yuan.
Just watch as they find "an excuse" (human right, devaluation, gay law, e.t.c) for one sanction or the other, just to arm twist us to continue to back their "factory-printed" paper-Dollar, at the expense of everyone.

Recall that the Dollar is no longer backed by Gold or anything of value!
So, other countries just sell/exchange their RESOURCES for the Dollar, while America just goes to its printer and tell them to keep printing the Paper.... and selling to others.

Also recall, this os one of the cardinal Sins of Ghadafi, Sadam, Castro and many other leaders like Savimbi, Samora Mitchel, e.t.c.
Any Leader of any country who tries to upstage the Dollar and expose it as the SCAM that it is, is marked for toppling, and if that is not possible, for execution
.

China is the new power in the world.

The Yuan will replace the Dollar as the premier reserve currency for global trade when it is eventually backed with gold, China has been buying gold like demons for over two years now. Investors will prefer gold backed currency over fiat currency, and this choice will be the death of the petrol dollar.

Nigeria already signed a deal with China for free flow of Yuan into our economy, some of our reserves are already being converted to Yuan, away from Dollar. America allowed Nigeria to sign the deal, didn't they? They are all in cahoots grin

When the time comes, you will see it was a 'timely and most fortuituous' move.

Buhari will be hailed as our Jesus Christ grin
Re: Egyptian Devaluation Backfires -- Nigeria, Be Thankful!!! by ugwum007(m): 5:29pm On Apr 23, 2016
aeronot:
Lets stop deceiving ourselves, if you want to do an online transaction the banks are charging black market rates 319, it is only when u are receiving money or changing dollar to naira the banks gladly charge 199! We should stop all this deceit!

I tot as much.....
Re: Egyptian Devaluation Backfires -- Nigeria, Be Thankful!!! by Ndolarr: 5:39pm On Apr 23, 2016
Nigerians should thank God for giving us Buhari who has stubbornly withstood naira devaluation despite the pressures from foreign hawks and local collaborators! Agreed, Buhari is not an economist, but he is a 'common sense' economist, who like my old dad, will always apply elderly wisdom to make the best out of a bad situation. Devaluation of naira at this time is a sure death sentence for Nigeria, especially the masses!! The Egypt example is enough warning to us all that we should do away with our stupid taste for foreign goods and patronize our locally made goods. Regulatory agencies should just ensure that standards are upheld as much as possible to improve the quality of such goods over time.
Re: Egyptian Devaluation Backfires -- Nigeria, Be Thankful!!! by Nobody: 5:42pm On Apr 23, 2016
4Play:


The sad thing is their obliviousness to their profound economic illiteracy. He puts up an article about the ill-fated move by the Egyptian government to fix exchange rates, instead of leaving it to market supply and demand to determine as economists recommend, and proclaims that this illustrates that the Nigerian government is vindicated!

To the contrary, the Egyptians are doing what the Nigerians are doing and are predictably failing. The fact that they have chosen to devalue a bit doesn't refute the fundamental diagnosis - governments cannot simply fix echange rates unless they have sufficient forex reserves to back it up. Nigeria does not have the reserves to fix the Naira at a particular price level so insisting on doing so will cause unnecessary hardship and creates opportunities for corruption via round-tripping. Why is this so difficult for Nigerians to understand?

What makes you think Nigeria needs a low FX rate?

A low fx rate is not necessarily a bonus when you are trying to restructure your economy away from imports into the real sector.

The problem is that Nigerians want to avoid changing their economic behaviour and dying occupations while maintaining their old life style. There are many imaginative and legal ways of paying for legal fx imports. In fact the increase in dollar rate is more than offset by the margins available in greenfield bottom of the pyramid opportunities.

If you are in services, trading, arbitrage, luxury real estate you will suffer. That's the name of the game.

Nigerians should boot up and get with the program.

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Re: Egyptian Devaluation Backfires -- Nigeria, Be Thankful!!! by drss1(m): 5:44pm On Apr 23, 2016
MrPresident1:
Buhari will be declared lord and saviour, the messiah of Nigeria, very soon, when the Yuan is backed with gold and the Dollar starts to flounder.

A 'most timely and fortuitous' move away from the Dollar to the Yuan in the nick of time that saved Nigeria from being affected by the economic disaster in the west.

Buhari will be hailed as the wisest leader ever liveth. grin
dis one only fit happen for dream.

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Re: Egyptian Devaluation Backfires -- Nigeria, Be Thankful!!! by ugwum007(m): 5:51pm On Apr 23, 2016
CACAWA:
dude don't dull yourself o.

Don't send money using wester Union or any useless bank transfer. Use azimo

They give you at black market rate my brother. I have been enjoying myself since I discovered it.

Can you use azimo for online transaction?
Re: Egyptian Devaluation Backfires -- Nigeria, Be Thankful!!! by faaz24: 5:51pm On Apr 23, 2016
modath:


Difaluashon nor epp Egypt... cheesy

A yaff tirai..
Honestly y'aff tirai....what a summary ! grin

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Re: Egyptian Devaluation Backfires -- Nigeria, Be Thankful!!! by Edifyer: 5:57pm On Apr 23, 2016
aeronot:
Lets stop deceiving ourselves, if you want to do an online transaction the banks are charging black market rates 319, it is only when u are receiving money or changing dollar to naira the banks gladly charge 199! We should stop all this deceit!
GTBank is N299

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Re: Egyptian Devaluation Backfires -- Nigeria, Be Thankful!!! by 19naia(m): 5:58pm On Apr 23, 2016
Nigeria should go through a devaluation. Only a devaluation to keep up with International equitability rather than the black market.
The real devaluation issue in Nigeria has nothing to do with keeping up with the black market, it has to do with Nigerian policy to artificially peg the naira at 199 to a $ rather than somewhere between 199 and the black market rate.
Its the black market that will have to adjust to the National banking currency rate while the Central bank will have to adjust to international equity.
Egypt is a different story with middle eastern economy heavily tied into it. If Egypt is devaluing to keep up with the black market, then that is their own terrible mistake. The black market of currency trade will destroy any currency for it's own profit. The currency needs to be adjusted according to International equity. After that, there will naturally grow a balance between the banking rates and black market rates. And naturally the black market rates will always compete against the banking rates no matter whats going on with devaluation in the economy.
All this currency speculation based on what the black market is doing, is nothing serious. If the banks are being starved of foriegn currency because of the black market, it is the black market that must be afraid, because the government can and will move in with enforcement and crumble the black market.

Its not the devaluation that is making issues , it is the infestation of black marketeers taking advantage of the situation. The banks of any nation should never capitulate to the black market when the law is on the bankers side. Thats why this story includes a segment about black market currency deals in secret because they know they are doing the damage rather than the banks.
The Banking system is no saint and does it's own evil upon mankind, but the black markets would form into cartels and become their own banks and wreak economic tyranny if no regulations and controls were in place. So the banks with relative order and being subject to government scrutiny and control are better than hidden corner black market dealers who funnel blood money, slave labor money and loot in general. Any bank that deals is shady money, has a better chance of being caught than a balck marketeer.

Dont be misled. The devaluation is not the cause of the problems, it is the black market that is causing the problem and should be dealt with. In fact, if you ask the black market, they want the devaluation because they have a momentary boom and they would not want value increase to come any time soon. They always want to buy low. They thrive on instability in currency. A devalued currency creates a buying low situation for the currency and people will rush in with Foriegn currency to buy low. Eventually it will all settle once the frenzy of buying low has been filled. Then the banks will once again see more currency coming their way.

Dont forget that the Naira has been constantly falling in value since the time of Kobo used to buy food. When last has the Naira been free from fall in value?
So devaluation has been a constant. How has Nigeria not already met the same conditions as Egypt by now? Egypt has a different economy and is tied into a different economic region of the world.
More foriegn money flows in when there is devaluation and it enhances exports if productivity is there to export. The devaluation is not the real issue in Nigeria but the restriction on flow of international currency and that is being done because Nigeria has serious problems with being very dependent on imports. The restriction on flow of foriegn currency is making that currency scarce for people and creates a higher price for it in the black market which soon attracts Foreign currency holders to the black market. But they are limited to certain amounts by law. Banks limit customers also but the black market is more available to criminal transactions for people who bring in undeclared cash exceedng the legal limits. Loot!
Western union, International ATM and other means bring in Foriegn currency to Nigeria and its actually quite a significant amount because each transaction comes from palces where average income exceeds Nigeria's average income. Billions of dollars a year by these means that do not go through black market hands and remain under the control of CBN. I spent only US$ last year in Nigeria via ATM card linked to a USA bank. I withdrew Naira and the banks were reimbursed $ as well as the currency exchange fee in $. I also used western union which paid out in Naira and the bank recieved dollar reimbursement. There are many Nigerians doing this with $,£ and €. And yes we often only get the bank exchange rate of 199 but it is good enough for people who dont work in Nigeria or have money in Nigeria.
Nigeria has a larger population of people than Egypt and may have many more people abroad than Egypt.

Nigeria banks may be collecting more Foreign reserves through these remittance and ATM transactions by refusing to devalue beyond 199, but they are likely losing more from detered investors who suffer under the currency flow restrictions. If the banks devalue without any new sources of foriegn income, they will reduce what foriegn income they have exchanging for Naira at remmitance and ATM sites.
But if Banks devalue Naira and reset currency flow policy, they will see foriegn investors growing again and bringing in foriegn currencies as well as growing Nigeria productivity towards a stronger economy that will in turn strengthen the Naira and attract foriegn buyers with more Foreign currency to spend.
Foreign investors show up with foriegn currency before they eventually profit and seek to repatriate their money abroad.
Its a tight situation for all, but give and take must happen while loss and gains stay ever present, and some routes will do more damage than others. Weigh the different options out of growing understanding of what is going on.

Nigeria doesn't quite have the reputation and mannerisms it needs to attract what it wants. I was driving Yesterday and came to a major intersection and the traffic lights had failed. Stop signs were placed on every corner and traffic automatically waited one by one for their alloted right to proceed and all was orderly and functional without agressive breakdown of order. This holds true in general beyond traffic here, in the market and beyond. There is a long history of practice in orderliness here.
Nigeria would see a different story even when the traffic lights are working ,there will be aggressive and constant breakdown of order and it is true in general beyond traffic, but also into the market, banking and beyond.
The root of the problem is in the people and what choices they make in the market, traffic,politics and beyond.
Conduct and productivity. The real value in any economy.

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Re: Egyptian Devaluation Backfires -- Nigeria, Be Thankful!!! by CACAWA(m): 6:05pm On Apr 23, 2016
ugwum007:


Can you use azimo for online transaction?
no, neither can you use any nigerian bank for online transaction
Re: Egyptian Devaluation Backfires -- Nigeria, Be Thankful!!! by NavierStokes(m): 6:06pm On Apr 23, 2016
GworoChewinMaga:


This is why I supported the removal of fuel subsidy and also the deregulation of the down stream sector that could only come to pass with the passage of the PIB.

If these two policies were allowed by now we would have had hundreds of small to medium scale refineries in every state.

Sometimes I just wonder how some of you think. Opposing the deregulation of the down stream sector and the subsidy removal was like Opposing the licensing of GSM operators in place of nitel only.



You see how we are light years ahead of you zombies.

Tell them bruv tell them. Everything pointed out here by most of us about the government has been coming to pass with clockwork precision (Rolex grin) "but them no go just wan gree"

Now government has put forward a budget that they are afraid of signing. Seeing that Nigeria Is producing at 1.6+ million barrels per day against benchmark of 2.2 million, currency controls stifling economic activities causing reductions in customs earnings, FIRS nothing much to tax etc.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-04-22/nigeria-s-revenue-drops-to-five-year-low-as-tax-oil-income-fall

They put a 6 trillion naira budget with reduced earnings which will likely increase deficit to almost double their already anticipated values.

These irrational supporters will drag us all into avoidable mess.

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Re: Egyptian Devaluation Backfires -- Nigeria, Be Thankful!!! by danot1030: 6:16pm On Apr 23, 2016
I have always said that those calling Buhari a dullard are the real dullard. They were the same people that advised Jonathan that made him earn the title of CLUELESS.

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Re: Egyptian Devaluation Backfires -- Nigeria, Be Thankful!!! by mightyjoe746: 6:46pm On Apr 23, 2016
GworoChewinMaga:


We must as a matter of urgency balance our deficit trade balance.

We export only crude and raw materials and in return basically everything else.

For us to begin to be a net exporter we must reduce our net imports.

The truth is that Nigerians do not deserve the life style they are living.

You basically produce nothing and depend on oil revenues shared through your corrupt governors to remain in existence.

The Nigerian policy is tantamount to a yeast culture where you consume and reproduce without recourse to the limited resources at your disposal and just like all yeast cultures when the food source is completely consumed, the culture dies out.

Nigerians should begin to wean themselves off the over dependence on free oyel money and this is why I am a staunch advocate in promoting cocoa and grounding plantations in the sw and North alongside any other cash crops you can scratch off your lands.

It's time to get back to work.

thanks for ur comment! Last cocoa harvesting season a kilo of cocoa Went up as high as 700-800 naira per kilo. It has never been like dat b4 now. We d cocoa farmer are in millions. U are right let go back to work
! We hope 4 a better price dis year!

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Re: Egyptian Devaluation Backfires -- Nigeria, Be Thankful!!! by InvertedHammer: 6:54pm On Apr 23, 2016
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The people shouting "DEVALUATION " are similar to the folks that got sucked into the bubble of "CHANGE"

When they finally get it, the mirage will clear.

The inflation and consequent hardship will be second to none.

Black market will always thrive even if abolished because everyone wants more bang for his/her bucks.

In all, after devaluation, prices will adjust up while salaries remain stagnant. Will you be ready?


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Re: Egyptian Devaluation Backfires -- Nigeria, Be Thankful!!! by Nobody: 7:28pm On Apr 23, 2016
4Play:
What has been called for is a free float of the Naira and not mere devaluation. If the CBN comes out today and announces that the Naira will now exchange at N280 to the dollar, that does not eliminate the problem as fixing exchange rates by fiat with insufficient reserves is a recipe for disaster. This is what the Egyptians have done and it goes against sound macro-economic advice.

A free float eliminates the black market as you have one exchange rate market and the market determines the exchange rate. People don't realise that having a fixed exchange rate regime in Nigeria was the norm from the 70s to the 80s and it helped hollow out our economic capacity and created all sorts of economic distortions.

Prices dictated by supply and demand play a crucial signalling role in the allocation of economic resources. By maintaining an inflated exchange rate, resources are misallocated and necessary economic adjustments are not made until it is too late.

You have to ask yourself - what does having the Naira at N200 to the dollar do for the economy other than to make imports cheaper? Why do these our so called nationalists want to make the importation of goods cheaper when they claim that Nigeria needs to weans itself off the dependence on imports?


If cbn relinquish control of the naira, and allow it float, won't we eventually have hyper inflation? If feul importer buy dollars at 320 what will become of us? We won't automatically cut our dependence on imports in a year. So there ll still be more naira chasing d dollars and it ll keep going up, untill it becomes #1000 to a dollar

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Re: Egyptian Devaluation Backfires -- Nigeria, Be Thankful!!! by Nobody: 7:33pm On Apr 23, 2016
aeronot:
Lets stop deceiving ourselves, if you want to do an online transaction the banks are charging black market rates 319, it is only when u are receiving money or changing dollar to naira the banks gladly charge 199! We should stop all this deceit!

The bankers are the cause of this problems, they re the so called currency speculators and they stand to gainn in these crisis.

I pity those parents who have children overseas, unless they are millionaires e go hard them.
Re: Egyptian Devaluation Backfires -- Nigeria, Be Thankful!!! by MathsChic(f): 7:59pm On Apr 23, 2016
4Play:


The sad thing is their obliviousness to their profound economic illiteracy. He puts up an article about the ill-fated move by the Egyptian government to fix exchange rates, instead of leaving it to market supply and demand to determine as economists recommend, and proclaims that this illustrates that the Nigerian government is vindicated!

To the contrary, the Egyptians are doing what the Nigerians are doing and are predictably failing. The fact that they have chosen to devalue a bit doesn't refute the fundamental diagnosis - governments cannot simply fix echange rates unless they have sufficient forex reserves to back it up. Nigeria does not have the reserves to fix the Naira at a particular price level so insisting on doing so will cause unnecessary hardship and creates opportunities for corruption via round-tripping. Why is this so difficult for Nigerians to understand?

Seriously? A free-floating exchange rate in Nigeria adjusted by demand and supply when the country hardly produces anything for its own consumption? There is a reason emerging economies don't have a free-floating system. Look into that.
Re: Egyptian Devaluation Backfires -- Nigeria, Be Thankful!!! by BrainnewsNg(f): 8:03pm On Apr 23, 2016
chriskosherbal:
Although we can take lessons from that, that does not in anyway stop us from taking proactive in the financial industry.

Ok
Re: Egyptian Devaluation Backfires -- Nigeria, Be Thankful!!! by blackprowler: 8:28pm On Apr 23, 2016
aeronot:
Lets stop deceiving ourselves, if you want to do an online transaction the banks are charging black market rates 319, it is only when u are receiving money or changing dollar to naira the banks gladly charge 199! We should stop all this deceit!

My broda see wahala o. They robbed me of several tens of thousands by this. Govt should just be like news people telling us what they free markets have made the rates today or tomorrow, not artificially fixing it and creating winners and losers
Re: Egyptian Devaluation Backfires -- Nigeria, Be Thankful!!! by philips70(m): 8:36pm On Apr 23, 2016
989900B:


Now tie the above into you earlier comments, you want the gov't to pay more for refined fuel?

You want official pump prices to be N150/litre and above, and when there is scarcity like there is now, we go probably N500/litre or more.

The government have foreign debts, tell me how devaluation makes that easier.

I would have loved you to answer how devaluation has helped us in the past: from 65 kobo to $1, and more recently, from N155 to 199?

What rate would you want the Naira devalued to?

Once you devalue, there is call for wage increase which triggers 'further inflation' and makes available money to buy 'the same now more expensive imported goods' = pressure back on the dollar = back to square 1.

Devaluation in our 'peculiar scenario', is a lazy man's approach to a fundamental problem.

I have over 10 written articles and tens of comments on NL about devaluation and why not.

I wrote the below a month or thereabout ago, have at it https://www.nairaland.com/2949997/dollar-vs-naira-done

It'd probably help your misconceptions, though you strongly believe in them.

Go on, amaze me!

Stop schooling idiots, the only thing that guides their thought process is hatred for one man. O Teriba cannot even convince them in this discussion.

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Re: Egyptian Devaluation Backfires -- Nigeria, Be Thankful!!! by blackprowler: 8:47pm On Apr 23, 2016
InvertedHammer:
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The people shouting "DEVALUATION " are similar to the folks that got sucked into the bubble of "CHANGE"

When they finally get it, the mirage will clear.

The inflation and consequent hardship will be second to none.

Black market will always thrive even if abolished because everyone wants more bang for his/her bucks.

In all, after devaluation, prices will adjust up while salaries remain stagnant. Will you be ready?


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What worries me the most is that some of you refuse to acknowledge or fail to realise that your fears of what happens after devaluation has already happened. It must happen; there's no other way. Prices of everything have gone up almost 100% in the last one year. The problem with Nigeria is that when someone officially says what has already happened,that's when people will start making a noise. As one previous poster alluded, the problem with Nigeria is our attitude and conduct

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Re: Egyptian Devaluation Backfires -- Nigeria, Be Thankful!!! by emorse(m): 11:17pm On Apr 23, 2016
4Play:
What has been called for is a free float of the Naira and not mere devaluation. If the CBN comes out today and announces that the Naira will now exchange at N280 to the dollar, that does not eliminate the problem as fixing exchange rates by fiat with insufficient reserves is a recipe for disaster. This is what the Egyptians have done and it goes against sound macro-economic advice.

A free float eliminates the black market as you have one exchange rate market and the market determines the exchange rate. People don't realise that having a fixed exchange rate regime in Nigeria was the norm from the 70s to the 80s and it helped hollow out our economic capacity and created all sorts of economic distortions.

Prices dictated by supply and demand play a crucial signalling role in the allocation of economic resources. By maintaining an inflated exchange rate, resources are misallocated and necessary economic adjustments are not made until it is too late.

You have to ask yourself - what does having the Naira at N200 to the dollar do for the economy other than to make imports cheaper? Why do these our so called nationalists want to make the importation of goods cheaper when they claim that Nigeria needs to weans itself off the dependence on imports?

Don't you think we're still too import dependent for this move? We import almost everything we consume even as ridiculous as tooth picks! Allowing the naira to float freely will without doubt lead to the increase in the cost of importation which will transcend into more economic hardship for the average Nigerian.

A more logical move -which I suspect is the intention of Mr President- would be to first improve our local capacity and there after, leave room for competition between local products and their foreign counterparts by allowing the naira to float as you earlier suggested. Of course by then the higher prices of foreign goods would work in favour of local goods thereby reducing the pressure on the dollar.

In all, I think your suggestion is brilliant but it can't be done impulsively. Measures have to be put in place to absorb the inevitable shock that would result from it.

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Re: Egyptian Devaluation Backfires -- Nigeria, Be Thankful!!! by bakila: 12:22am On Apr 24, 2016
MrPresident1:


China is the new power in the world.

The Yuan will replace the Dollar as the premier reserve currency for global trade when it is eventually backed with gold, China has been buying gold like demons for over two years now. Investors will prefer gold backed currency over fiat currency, and this choice will be the death of the petrol dollar.

Nigeria already signed a deal with China for free flow of Yuan into our economy, some of our reserves are already being converted to Yuan, away from Dollar. America allowed Nigeria to sign the deal, didn't they? They are all in cahoots grin

When the time comes, you will see it was a 'timely and most fortuituous' move.

Buhari will be hailed as our Jesus Christ grin
Sarcastically sarcasting yourself. One thing Nigerians are sure about is that PMB is trying to take Nigeria out of the woods Judas plung her into.
Re: Egyptian Devaluation Backfires -- Nigeria, Be Thankful!!! by InvertedHammer: 5:53am On Apr 24, 2016
blackprowler:


What worries me the most is that some of you refuse to acknowledge or fail to realise that your fears of what happens after devaluation has already happened. It must happen; there's no other way. Prices of everything have gone up almost 100% in the last one year. The problem with Nigeria is that when someone officially says what has already happened,that's when people will start making a noise. As one previous poster alluded, the problem with Nigeria is our attitude and conduct
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It went up 100%. Wait till it goes up to 500%. Once devalued, the naira will gain a few points and the nose dive starts. The problem some of you have is that you never consider long term effects. You tend to be enamoured with quick fixes that are short term solutions. Where will naira be five years, ten years, twenty years after devaluation? That's how serious nations make projections and not three months fix.

Egypt with some semblance of decorum tried it and failed. So did many other nations. Nigeria, with high reliance on import will be a basket case. The simple fact is that Nigeria has no bargaining chips. If oil ever rolls down to 20s and stay there for a while, Nigeria will go belly up. The hidden truth is that Nigeria has been having problems for years finding buyers for her oil. To move away from dependence on oil revenue takes years to implement. Nigeria has no infrastructures to support any industry with potentials. She can't even guarantee 24hrs of power supply in this 21st century.
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Re: Egyptian Devaluation Backfires -- Nigeria, Be Thankful!!! by Goldpen: 6:57am On Apr 24, 2016
Exactly! Nigerians are robbed with this
aeronot:
Lets stop deceiving ourselves, if you want to do an online transaction the banks are charging black market rates 319, it is only when u are receiving money or changing dollar to naira the banks gladly charge 199! We should stop all this deceit!
Re: Egyptian Devaluation Backfires -- Nigeria, Be Thankful!!! by 989900B: 7:19am On Apr 24, 2016
4Play:


Dude, you are a bit thick. You need to read my post that you quoted for a rebuttal of your outstanding "insight". Here is an extract from post - [s]"By narrowly focusing on devaluation, the OP misses the forest for the trees.[/s] [s]The CBN's policy misstep is not a failure to devalue but a failure to allow market forces dictate the Naira's value given the CBN's lack of ammunition [/s](i.e., forex reserves)."

If you have substantial forex reserves, you can manipulate all you want. If you don't, you have to allow market forces determines prices. No point in comparing us to China who have $3 trillion in forex reserves.

2 or 3 years ago on Nairaland I questioned why people thought Sanusi, the CBN governor, did a good job when he failed to accummulate forex reserves at a time oil prices were high. It seemed bizarre then and has left us short of forex to defend the Naira now that oil prices are low. Now that we are were we are, we need to bear the consequences and learn our lessons to avoid a repeat in the future. No amount of sloganeering and wishful thinking will dig us out of the hole we dug ourselves into.

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