davien:
And if we were to even date the moons age it corresponds with the earths 4.5 billion year age, the same moon that Abrahamic religions claim is younger from their Biblical interpretations...

The universe doesn't have room for god/gods as explanative features anymore...

well said @captain

captainnigeria:
Thanks. It just pains me that a lot of people don't understand this stuff and how impossible it is for science to be wrong. If the theory is wrong it is abandoned. People will make excuses for each verse in the bible or quran no matter how stupid it sounds. They still try to rationalize everything. loads of bollocks if you ask me

captainnigeria:
Thanks. It just pains me that a lot of people don't understand this stuff and how impossible it is for science to be wrong. If the theory is wrong it is abandoned. People will make excuses for each verse in the bible or quran no matter how stupid it sounds. They still try to rationalize everything. loads of bollocks if you ask me

captainnigeria:
The idea of God is a hoax. This is a lie perpetuated by ignorance and the need to keep hope alive. People want to believe in something so they can say their lives meant something. Alas we are not special. You are the same dacaying organic matter as everybody else. I will give just one evidence to prove this illusion called God though many examples abound
The age of the earth. According to the Abrahamic religions which include christianity and islam, the earth is probably like 9000 YEARS OLD if we take from the beginning when Adam was created and we progress through to jesus christ and anow 2016 years after death. Geology and quantum physics tell us otherwise. These denials of modern geology are astonishing in the extreme to any scientist familiar with the depth and strength of the evidence for a 4.54 billion-year-old earth. Geologic dates are calculated using any of several well-established techniques based on known rates of radioactivity, a phenomenon that is rooted in fundamental laws of physics (quantum mechanics), and which follows simple mathematical formulas. Dating schemes based on rates of radioactivity have been refined and scrutinized for several decades. For details on how these ages are measured and calculated, see Radiometric dating.
So how reliable are these dates?
As with any experimental procedure, these measurements are subject to certain “glitches” and “anomalies,” as noted in the literature. But through several decades of extensive use, scientists have identified these difficulties and have designed careful experimental procedures to avoid them. And modern high-tech mass spectrometers can obtain reliable dates even on microscopic samples.
The chance that a single peer-reviewed measurement is off by a factor of millions is slim indeed. But the chance that every one of the these measurements is off by such a huge factor is absolutely zero.
Besides, one can determine the rough age of the earth by a very simple calculation. It is a fact that among all known isotopes found on earth that are not themselves products of radioactive decay,everyisotope with a half life less than about 70 million years is absent (evidently because all traces have disappeared during the age of the earth), yeteveryisotope with a half life greater than about 70 million years is present at some detectable level. Since our current technology can detect isotopes with an abundance of roughly one part in a trillion (corresponding to the amount remaining after 40 half lives), this shows that the material from which our earth formed is at least 40 x 70 million (= 2.8 billion) years old. Now please explain to me how you can still blindly believe in the Abrahamic God after such irrefutable evidence. Evolution and theory of natural selection show a progression and the obey the law of probability. There is no evidence for creationism.

Edelweiss44:


Thrash written by a big fool who is just too ignorant of the bible that his ignorance stinks!

Before you come here to quote, misquote and misinterprete the bible, you may want to go back and open your eyes to read Genesis chapter 1 verses 1-3 again, then you will see that the earth according to the bible should be far much older than the 9000years you falsely claim the bible says the earth is.

In the beginning, God created the heaven and earth. That beginning was long before the creation of Adam & Eve. In verse 2 of Genesis 1, it states that "the earth BECAME void and darkness covered the face of the waters". Between verses 1 & 2 of Genesis chapter 1 was a gap of many years, probably millions or billions of years. What happened from Genesis chapter 1 verse 3 up to Adam was just a RECREATION OF THE EARTH. Read the passages again and you will know that God had first created the earth in verse 1, then something occured that made the earth become void and covered in darkness, and that was why God decided to do a Recreation of the earth from verse 3 upwards. Dinosaurs most likely existed on the planet before something went wrong in verse 2 of Genesis 1 that wiped them out and God now had to recreate and finally created Adam and Eve afterwards. That Adam & Eve can be traced back to between 6000 - 9000years ago according to the bible does not mean the earth was created within that same time. The earth was created very long ago before Adam & Eve were created.

Stop disgracing yourself and showing your gross ignorance in public just because you want to delude yourself and unsuspecting victims to think God does not exist!

Seelurd:



Guy, there is no difference btw you and the islamic extremist in the north killing people as they like under the umbrella of religion. Op created a thread and stated his opinion and all you could say is to call him a fool. Why are all you relgion folks so aggresive? The Op didnt force you to check his thread or made it compulsory. Why should you now come in here and start displaying your level of childish and barbaric atitude. No be by force.

Secondly, you are using the bible loophole to justify whats not real. If the bible is truely the word of God, why should it not have stated the yrs btw creation of earth and Adam. That means the bible is imcomplete. You make me laugh when you said SOMETHING HAPPEN and the earth became void. Did you listen to yourself? You are not sure of what happen and if you do say it. Cos ur bible didnt say why earth became void quoting from what you said. You tends not to believe science and tech, and you might be one of the first people to buy Samsung S7. You better wake up and question your sky daddy. Mtcheeeewwwww.

Op welldone o jaare.

Edelweiss44:


If you were really as smart as you think you are, your brain should have told you that it is impossible to include every little detail of all creation in the bible. With the minimal details included in the bible, you can see how big it is, then imagine the size of the book that will now contain the volume of details if God decided that every little detail must be included. If only the details of everything about Jesus' life while on earth were written in a book, you would need books more than the size of a house to contain them. God is not foolish to understand that human beings do not need unnecessary details and that is why only the most important details are recorded for want of space.

You that is talking, if they were to write down everything about your life so far in a book from the day you were born, do you think a book the size of your bedroom could contain every detail? Yet you want God to write down every detail about creation, Adam, Eve, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David, Jesus, etc etc in a book that is small enough for you to read and carry about easily? God is not daft like your brain is deceiving you to think!

Edelweiss44:


If you were really as smart as you think you are, your brain should have told you that it is impossible to include every little detail of all creation in the bible. With the minimal details included in the bible, you can see how big it is, then imagine the size of the book that will now contain the volume of details if God decided that every little detail must be included. If only the details of everything about Jesus' life while on earth were written in a book, you would need books more than the size of a house to contain them. God is not foolish to understand that human beings do not need unnecessary details and that is why only the most important details are recorded for want of space.

You that is talking, if they were to write down everything about your life so far in a book from the day you were born, do you think a book the size of your bedroom could contain every detail? Yet you want God to write down every detail about creation, Adam, Eve, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David, Jesus, etc etc in a book that is small enough for you to read and carry about easily? God is not daft like your brain is deceiving you to think!

SirWere:

Hey, at least if he cannot tell us everything; then he should not mislead us...

For Bleep sake, it's repeated continously that the earth is created in 6 days; that plants came before the sun.

The falsehood continues when we hear about an earth that is flat; the sun stopping its movement and a rod turning to a snake and everyone tracing their progeny back to some middleeastern people....

If the bible cannot give accurate information containing the history of the world; then it should have kept quiet; rather than saying unreliable information which were probably the leading "scientific" thought at the time.

Edelweiss44:


Thrash written by a big fool who is just too ignorant of the bible that his ignorance stinks!

Before you come here to quote, misquote and misinterprete the bible, you may want to go back and open your eyes to read Genesis chapter 1 verses 1-3 again, then you will see that the earth according to the bible should be far much older than the 9000years you falsely claim the bible says the earth is.

In the beginning, God created the heaven and earth. That beginning was long before the creation of Adam & Eve. In verse 2 of Genesis 1, it states that "the earth BECAME void and darkness covered the face of the waters". Between verses 1 & 2 of Genesis chapter 1 was a gap of many years, probably millions or billions of years. What happened from Genesis chapter 1 verse 3 up to Adam was just a RECREATION OF THE EARTH. Read the passages again and you will know that God had first created the earth in verse 1, then something occured that made the earth become void and covered in darkness, and that was why God decided to do a Recreation of the earth from verse 3 upwards. Dinosaurs most likely existed on the planet before something went wrong in verse 2 of Genesis 1 that wiped them out and God now had to recreate and finally created Adam and Eve afterwards. That Adam & Eve can be traced back to between 6000 - 9000years ago according to the bible does not mean the earth was created within that same time. The earth was created very long ago before Adam & Eve were created.

Stop disgracing yourself and showing your gross ignorance in public just because you want to delude yourself and unsuspecting victims to think God does not exist!

Edelweiss44:


Bros you don't need to fall your hand in public like this with your gross ignorance naa.......abeg, where in the bible was it ever said that the earth is flat? can you pls quote the book, chapter and verse where it was stated? We are waiting for your quote....

By the way, if you read through my first post before making this comment, you should have understood the simple explanation according to the bible; In Genesis chapter 1 vs 1, God first created the heaven and earth. In verse 2, it says "the earth BECAME void and darkness was upon the face of the waters". In verse 3, it says "and God said let there be light". Before God started creating the sun and the animals and trees and Adam and Eve, God had already created the earth long before then. The bible did not specify the exact number of years between Genesis chapter 1 vs 1 when God first created the earth & heaven and Genesis chapter 1 vs 2 when something occured that made the earth become void and covered in darkness (that time frame could as well have been thousands or millions or even billions of years, we were not told precisely how long a time it was). What God did in 6days was just a recreation of an already existing earth that He had already created before in the beginning but something had happened according to verse 2 that made the earth become void and full of darkness. There was already an earth before verse 3 when God said "Let there be light" (day 1 out of 6 of the recreation).

Stop turning the bible upside down to confuse yourself and deceive others!

Edelweiss44:


Thrash written by a big fool who is just too ignorant of the bible that his ignorance stinks!

Before you come here to quote, misquote and misinterprete the bible, you may want to go back and open your eyes to read Genesis chapter 1 verses 1-3 again, then you will see that the earth according to the bible should be far much older than the 9000years you falsely claim the bible says the earth is.

In the beginning, God created the heaven and earth. That beginning was long before the creation of Adam & Eve. In verse 2 of Genesis 1, it states that "the earth BECAME void and darkness covered the face of the waters". Between verses 1 & 2 of Genesis chapter 1 was a gap of many years, probably millions or billions of years. What happened from Genesis chapter 1 verse 3 up to Adam was just a RECREATION OF THE EARTH. Read the passages again and you will know that God had first created the earth in verse 1, then something occured that made the earth become void and covered in darkness, and that was why God decided to do a Recreation of the earth from verse 3 upwards. Dinosaurs most likely existed on the planet before something went wrong in verse 2 of Genesis 1 that wiped them out and God now had to recreate and finally created Adam and Eve afterwards. That Adam & Eve can be traced back to between 6000 - 9000years ago according to the bible does not mean the earth was created within that same time. The earth was created very long ago before Adam & Eve were created.

Stop disgracing yourself and showing your gross ignorance in public just because you want to delude yourself and unsuspecting victims to think God does not exist!

captainnigeria:
Thanks. It just pains me that a lot of people don't understand this stuff and how impossible it is for science to be wrong. If the theory is wrong it is abandoned. People will make excuses for each verse in the bible or quran no matter how stupid it sounds. They still try to rationalize everything. loads of bollocks if you ask me

Edelweiss44:


How you will know you're not as smart as you think is when you look into the history of modern science and discover that most of the scientists who invented the basics of the technologies we enjoy today were mostly christians or Jews who both believe in God.
Thomas Edison believed in God
The Wright Brothers (aeroplane) believed in God (as a matter of fact, their father was a Pastor)

Graham Bell believed in God

Albert Einstien believed in God (he was a Jew)

The guy who discovered Penicilin as the first antibiotics was a Jew who believed in God.

The list goes on and on. You yourself that is claiming atheist, what have you invented or discovered? Nothing! rather you are enjoying the phone technology that has it's foundation from the invention of Alexander Graham Bell who was a believer in God, and you're here making noise that you're an atheist. #IgnoramusEverywhereTheseDaysWhoThinkTheyKnowItAll

donnffd:


Hi bro, Nice writeup...i have gotten to a point where i dont argue with theist anymore, to all man is own, and i hear things like "when we die, we would know who is right", and it pains me alot, you know why?, its because when we die, we wont know that we are dead talkless of knowing who got it right...so leave the misinformed to their misinformation and try to educate the young and willing to learn for thats the only way we can move the human race forward

Ranchhoddas:
I sincerely hope death is not the end. The thought is depressing.

captainnigeria:
There's no need for name calling here. Why are all these theists acting so butthurt. BTW eistein did not believe in Abrahamic God. I just wanna put that out there. Also most scientist do not believe in God. Please do your research. The science from my original post is not wrong. The earth is over 4 billion years old fact! Ergo no God due to the creationist story being wrong. God created the earth in 6 days. Not possible as dinosaurs came before man about 2 billion years in fact. Just look at the time line. The dinosaur fossils that have been found have been carbon dated and quantum physics is not wrong fact! Read about pangea and how the earth fragmented. Expand your mind. Smoke some weed. Read and appreciate life and take care of your problems. No whimsical diety is gonna do shit for you. You might as well believe in father christmas

Edelweiss44:


Thrash written by a big fool who is just too ignorant of the bible that his ignorance stinks!

Before you come here to quote, misquote and misinterprete the bible, you may want to go back and open your eyes to read Genesis chapter 1 verses 1-3 again, then you will see that the earth according to the bible should be far much older than the 9000years you falsely claim the bible says the earth is.

In the beginning, God created the heaven and earth. That beginning was long before the creation of Adam & Eve. In verse 2 of Genesis 1, it states that "the earth BECAME void and darkness covered the face of the waters". Between verses 1 & 2 of Genesis chapter 1 was a gap of many years, probably millions or billions of years. What happened from Genesis chapter 1 verse 3 up to Adam was just a RECREATION OF THE EARTH. Read the passages again and you will know that God had first created the earth in verse 1, then something occured that made the earth become void and covered in darkness, and that was why God decided to do a Recreation of the earth from verse 3 upwards. Dinosaurs most likely existed on the planet before something went wrong in verse 2 of Genesis 1 that wiped them out and God now had to recreate and finally created Adam and Eve afterwards. That Adam & Eve can be traced back to between 6000 - 9000years ago according to the bible does not mean the earth was created within that same time. The earth was created very long ago before Adam & Eve were created.

Stop disgracing yourself and showing your gross ignorance in public just because you want to delude yourself and unsuspecting victims to think God does not exist!

captainnigeria:
The idea of God is a hoax. This is a lie perpetuated by ignorance and the need to keep hope alive. People want to believe in something so they can say their lives meant something. Alas we are not special. You are the same dacaying organic matter as everybody else. I will give just one evidence to prove this illusion called God though many examples abound
The age of the earth. According to the Abrahamic religions which include christianity and islam, the earth is probably like 9000 YEARS OLD if we take from the beginning when Adam was created and we progress through to jesus christ and anow 2016 years after death. Geology and quantum physics tell us otherwise. These denials of modern geology are astonishing in the extreme to any scientist familiar with the depth and strength of the evidence for a 4.54 billion-year-old earth. Geologic dates are calculated using any of several well-established techniques based on known rates of radioactivity, a phenomenon that is rooted in fundamental laws of physics (quantum mechanics), and which follows simple mathematical formulas. Dating schemes based on rates of radioactivity have been refined and scrutinized for several decades. For details on how these ages are measured and calculated, see Radiometric dating.
So how reliable are these dates?
As with any experimental procedure, these measurements are subject to certain “glitches” and “anomalies,” as noted in the literature. But through several decades of extensive use, scientists have identified these difficulties and have designed careful experimental procedures to avoid them. And modern high-tech mass spectrometers can obtain reliable dates even on microscopic samples.
The chance that a single peer-reviewed measurement is off by a factor of millions is slim indeed. But the chance that every one of the these measurements is off by such a huge factor is absolutely zero.
Besides, one can determine the rough age of the earth by a very simple calculation. It is a fact that among all known isotopes found on earth that are not themselves products of radioactive decay,everyisotope with a half life less than about 70 million years is absent (evidently because all traces have disappeared during the age of the earth), yeteveryisotope with a half life greater than about 70 million years is present at some detectable level. Since our current technology can detect isotopes with an abundance of roughly one part in a trillion (corresponding to the amount remaining after 40 half lives), this shows that the material from which our earth formed is at least 40 x 70 million (= 2.8 billion) years old. Now please explain to me how you can still blindly believe in the Abrahamic God after such irrefutable evidence. Evolution and theory of natural selection show a progression and the obey the law of probability. There is no evidence for creationism.

Edelweiss44:


Thrash written by a big fool who is just too ignorant of the bible that his ignorance stinks!

Before you come here to quote, misquote and misinterprete the bible, you may want to go back and open your eyes to read Genesis chapter 1 verses 1-3 again, then you will see that the earth according to the bible should be far much older than the 9000years you falsely claim the bible says the earth is.

In the beginning, God created the heaven and earth. That beginning was long before the creation of Adam & Eve. In verse 2 of Genesis 1, it states that "the earth BECAME void and darkness covered the face of the waters". Between verses 1 & 2 of Genesis chapter 1 was a gap of many years, probably millions or billions of years. What happened from Genesis chapter 1 verse 3 up to Adam was just a RECREATION OF THE EARTH. Read the passages again and you will know that God had first created the earth in verse 1, then something occured that made the earth become void and covered in darkness, and that was why God decided to do a Recreation of the earth from verse 3 upwards. [b]Dinosaurs most likely existed on the planet before something went wrong in verse 2 of Genesis 1 that wiped them out and God now had to recreate and finally created Adam and Eve afterwards. [/b]That Adam & Eve can be traced back to between 6000 - 9000years ago according to the bible does not mean the earth was created within that same time. The earth was created very long ago before Adam & Eve were created.

Stop disgracing yourself and showing your gross ignorance in public just because you want to delude yourself and unsuspecting victims to think God does not exist!