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Re: When A Man Forces His Wife For Sex, Is It A Rape? by UuzbaGuuzba: 9:50pm On Jun 24, 2016
paschu:
SEX is SEX. Call it whatever you like. It does not change what it is.

1 Corinthians 7 (ISV)

Concerning Marriage

 1  Now about what you asked: “Is it advisable for a man not to marry?” (Compare)

 2  Because sexual immorality is so rampant, every man should have his own wife, and every woman should have her own husband.

 3  A husband should fulfill his obligation to his wife, and a wife should do the same for her husband.

 4  A wife does not have authority over her own body, but her husband does. In the same way, a husband doesn’t have authority over his own body, but his wife does.

 5  Do not withhold yourselves from each other unless you agree to do so just for a set time, in order to devote yourselves to prayer. Then you should come together again so that Satan does not tempt you through your lack of self-control.


 6  But I say this as a concession, not as a command.

 7  I would like everyone to be unmarried, like I am. However, each person has a special gift from God, one this and another that.

 8  I say to those who are unmarried, especially to widows: It is good for them to remain like me.

 9  However, if they cannot control themselves, they should get married, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.

 10  To married people I give this command (not really I, but the Lord): A wife must not leave her husband.

 11  But if she does leave him, she must remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband. Likewise, a husband must not abandon his wife.

 12  I (not the Lord) say to the rest of you: If a brother has a wife who is an unbeliever and she is willing to live with him, he must not abandon her.

 13  And if a woman has a husband who is an unbeliever and he is willing to live with her, she must not abandon him.

 14  For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified because of his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified because of her husband. Otherwise, your children would be unclean, but now they are holy.

 15  But if the unbelieving partner leaves, let him go. In such cases the brother or sister is not under obligation. God has called you to live in peace.

 16  Wife, you might be able to save your husband. Husband, you might be able to save your wife.

Live according to God’s Call

 17  Nevertheless, everyone should live the life that the Lord gave him and to which God called him. This is my rule in all the churches.

 18  Was anyone circumcised when he was called? He should not try to change that. Was anyone uncircumcised when he was called? He should not get circumcised.

 19  Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but obeying God’s commandments is everything.

 20  Everyone should stay in the same condition in which he was called.

 21  Were you a slave when you were called? Do not let that bother you. Of course, if you have a chance to become free, take advantage of the opportunity.

 22  For the slave who has been called to belong to the Lord is the Lord’s free person. In the same way, the free person who has been called is the Messiah’s slave.

 23  You were bought for a price. Stop becoming slaves of people.

 24  Brothers, everyone should stay in the same condition in which he was called by God.

Concerning Virgins

 25  Now concerning virgins, although I do not have any command from the Lord, I will give you my opinion as one who by the Lord’s mercy is trustworthy.

 26  In view of the present crisis, I think it is prudent for a man to stay as he is.

 27  Have you become committed to a wife? Stop trying to get released from your commitment. Have you been freed from your commitment to a wife? Stop looking for one.

 28  But if you do get married, you have not sinned. And if a virgin gets married, she has not sinned. However, these people will experience trouble in this life, and I want to spare you from that.

 29  This is what I mean, brothers: The time is short. From now on, those who have wives should live as though they had none,

 30  and those who mourn as though they did not mourn, and those who rejoice as though they were not rejoicing, and those who buy as though they did not own a thing,

 31  and those who use the things in the world as though they were not dependent on them. For the world in its present form is passing away.

 32  I want you to be free from concerns. An unmarried man is concerned about the things of the Lord, that is, about how he can please the Lord.

 33  But a married man is concerned about things of this world, that is, about how he can please his wife,

 34  and so his attention is divided. An unmarried woman or virgin is concerned about the affairs of the Lord, so that she may be holy in body and spirit. But a married woman is concerned about the affairs of this world, that is, about how she can please her husband.


 35  I’m saying this for your benefit, not to put a noose around your necks, but to promote good order and unhindered devotion to the Lord.

 36  If a man thinks he is not behaving properly toward his virgin, and if his passion is so strong that he feels he ought to marry her, let him do what he wants; he isn’t sinning. Let them get married.

 37  However, if a man stands firm in his resolve, feels no necessity, and has made up his mind to keep her a virgin, he will be acting appropriately.

 38  So then the man who marries the virgin acts appropriately, but the man who refrains from marriage does even better.

 39  A wife is bound to her husband as long as he lives. But if her husband dies, she is free to marry anyone she wishes, only in the Lord.

 40  However, in my opinion she will be happier if she stays as she is. And in saying this, I think that I, too, have God’s Spirit.




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Re: When A Man Forces His Wife For Sex, Is It A Rape? by UuzbaGuuzba: 9:58pm On Jun 24, 2016
paschu:
SEX is SEX. Call it whatever you like. It does not change what it is.

1 Corinthians 7 (ISV)

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Did you quote all this to your wife before marrying her?
There is nothing worse for a woman than an overbearing husband physically having his way and using scripture to back up his act.

The woman SIMPLY does not feel loved.
What EVER gift of tongues you can speak or passages you can quoted if you cannot LOVE your wife, You have failed. Love is the greates of ALL commandments

God commands it 2ce out of 10 commandments. You shall love. It is not optional.

If your wife does not feel the love , You have failed. Sorry she will testify FIRST HAND to God against you on judgment day.

Look, I married my friend OK. Every single time we make Love I always remember it is my friend I am making love to. Not one stubbor idiot that I am trying to cast demon out of.

It is your life sha. You have your entire life to learn how to love. God will not listen to any of your scripture gambling if you refused to show Love to him Commandment Number 1, and Love to your Neighbour (Including your wife for married people) Commandment No 2.

Jesus came and enfored that commencement AGAIN! Love One another As I have loved you.

There's no getting away with forcing your way on your wife.

If you need it badly, she will give you. But ASK IN LOVE. Not by FORCING scripture down her head like shes a demon.
Re: When A Man Forces His Wife For Sex, Is It A Rape? by Nobody: 10:08pm On Jun 24, 2016
BeastAmbition:
When a man force his wife for sex is it a rape?


I read an article or even in the US that's it's not rape but it's a sexual assault, but then again why would one gain pleasure from forcing sex on their love one.
Re: When A Man Forces His Wife For Sex, Is It A Rape? by UuzbaGuuzba: 10:35pm On Jun 24, 2016
wisemania:

it all depends on her reasons though.
Nonetheless, if she denies you the pleasure(probably because you suck), it's your duty to trigger the sensation in her.Start with pre-intimacy(licking the ears, throat, eyes, cleavage, tits,navel, down to her box).After which she shall be in the [b]mood.[/b]Life is simple man.

Always remember God who made both man an woman. He started off with Man and clearly later divided man into 2. Male and Female.

The personality of God is divided between Man and Woman.
Most of us imagine God as a man. A guy. Macho things.
But He has a clear Feminine aspect. The soft part, Emotion, Love, tenderness, forgiveness, child bearing.....

Your wife lays clear before you, A woman, to learn how to LOVE the other side of God. Do not neglect of forsake her. God who made her a woman will question your love for himself on Judegemnt day. AND YOU CANNOT LIE.
Re: When A Man Forces His Wife For Sex, Is It A Rape? by kenoz(m): 10:50pm On Jun 24, 2016
To force someone to have sex with you is rape
Re: When A Man Forces His Wife For Sex, Is It A Rape? by AyamBlaze: 11:10pm On Jun 24, 2016
Lol.. Nigerians! The man is legally married to the woman, so he can't be taken to court for rape. The law doesn't make any provision for that.
So, to y'all that is shouting "it is rape", #ReceiveSense
Re: When A Man Forces His Wife For Sex, Is It A Rape? by amtaken(f): 11:45pm On Jun 24, 2016
Keep finding faults. I know it is Criminal Code of Nigeria under the
Laws of the Federation of Nigeria 1990.

I knew there would be fault-finders like you when I made that comment.

Is my explanation there right or wrong?

I have finished saying mine.

Bye.
iamauxin:
section 7? Don't quote a wrong section dearie....and there's nothing like "Criminal Code of the Federation"
Re: When A Man Forces His Wife For Sex, Is It A Rape? by GodblessNig247(m): 1:07am On Jun 25, 2016
Onyochejohn:
are u kiding me? No law will frown at soom1 forcing his wife, there is nothing like husband forcing wife! It is husband and wife having misunderstanding.

Are u igbo?
Re: When A Man Forces His Wife For Sex, Is It A Rape? by Kunleakinpelu00(m): 4:30am On Jun 25, 2016
[b][/b]anyone who forces a lady to have sex to me is known as rape..sex is a thing ment for two people,they both must agree that's when its more enjoyable and that's what I call it love making
Re: When A Man Forces His Wife For Sex, Is It A Rape? by paschu: 4:49am On Jun 25, 2016
Funny that you use love and judgement (fear based manipulation) in the same context.

Anyway, keep lifting your theory above the Truth.

I guess you are smarter than Paul who said that sex is a mutual OBLIGATION in marriage and it's FRAUDLENT to deprive your spouse of sex (be it husband or wife) since you no longer have RIGHT OF OWNERSHIP over your body.

UuzbaGuuzba:


Did you quote all this to your wife before marrying her?
There is nothing worse for a woman than an overbearing husband physically having his way and using scripture to back up his act.

The woman SIMPLY does not feel loved.
What EVER gift of tongues you can speak or passages you can quoted if you cannot LOVE your wife, You have failed. Love is the greates of ALL commandments

God commands it 2ce out of 10 commandments. You shall love. It is not optional.

If your wife does not feel the love , You have failed. Sorry she will testify FIRST HAND to God against you on judgment day.

Look, I married my friend OK. Every single time we make Love I always remember it is my friend I am making love to. Not one stubbor idiot that I am trying to cast demon out of.

It is your life sha. You have your entire life to learn how to love. God will not listen to any of your scripture gambling if you refused to show Love to him Commandment Number 1, and Love to your Neighbour (Including your wife for married people) Commandment No 2.

Jesus came and enfored that commencement AGAIN! Love One another As I have loved you.

There's no getting away with forcing your way on your wife.

If you need it badly, she will give you. But ASK IN LOVE. Not by FORCING scripture down her head like shes a demon.
Re: When A Man Forces His Wife For Sex, Is It A Rape? by God2man(m): 5:50am On Jun 25, 2016
opalu:
[b]MEN, HEAR THIS:
If you can convince your wife to drop her father's name and marry you, then you have ALL it takes to convince that same woman to make love with you when you need it. If you approach the door of your bedroom and command it to open instead of using the right key to open it, you will be dissappointed, because it would not open. If you stand there praying all manner of prayers, it will still not open. If you use force it won't open if it is security door (some women are like that these days). With force, many doors will open but disfigured.
From this analogy, forcing your wife to have sex leaves you with a disfigured marriage. Begging your wife for sex is equally an abnormality. You don't beg for what belongs to you neither do you break what belongs to you that you would still need tomorrow (or this evening cool )
The way a man 'rises' and 'falls' in sex is sudden just like someone using Elevator (Lift). A woman on the other side uses the staircase to rise and come down. So except 2 agree together they cannot tangle. So you as a man need to leave your elevator-mindset and follow her climbing the staircase step by step. And it starts from when you wake in the morning. As a matter of fact, If your wife does not release in sex, then YOUR wife is in bondage till now. Release her!!
To many women, sex is one hell just because of the way you have continually done it. We are in the age of smartness and the earlier you help your wife to become a smart-wife sexually the better. It is an evil under the sun to leave your own wife as an analogue wife (sex-wise) and then have a spaggetti girl somewhere who gives you sex in Kit-kat, Jelly bean and all latest styles. [/b]


Let me no forget to say that i only talked to MATURE Men... those who are married. The only way to prove you are a mature man is by marrying. Too many ladies are single and time is not on their sides. If your own reason is 'I am not yet ready for marriage' Then STOP having sex! Because it is strictly for those guys who are married!

Little experience from my 8 years of peaceful marriage undecided

Very sensible post indeed.
Re: When A Man Forces His Wife For Sex, Is It A Rape? by eyinjuege: 6:17am On Jun 25, 2016
paschu:
Funny that you use love and judgement (fear based manipulation) in the same context.

Anyway, keep lifting your theory above the Truth.

I guess you are smarter than Paul who said that sex is a mutual OBLIGATION in marriage and it's FRAUDLENT to deprive your spouse of sex (be it husband or wife) since you no longer have RIGHT OF OWNERSHIP over your body.


Did Paul also ask you to force your wife?
Do you really think the bible supports forcing your wife?
If your wife chooses not to obey your bible, were you instructed to carry out punishment on behalf of God? Can't God do that on his own?
If its a sin, its between her and God.
You choosing to force her is of your own choice, and not commanded by God so please don't justify that with the Bible.

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Re: When A Man Forces His Wife For Sex, Is It A Rape? by Nobody: 9:32am On Jun 25, 2016
davedpo:
it's certainly a rape so far it's a forced sex

What if she starts saying " Harder " during the process ?
Re: When A Man Forces His Wife For Sex, Is It A Rape? by Nobody: 9:34am On Jun 25, 2016
keepingmum:
yes it is. Just like a woman needs her husband's consent to go on a spending spree with his card, so does the man need the woman's consent to conjugate.

There are lots of cases enshrined in law that backs this up. Even in marriage, consent has to be given.

Any man that argues otherwise, dont worry, tomorrow, your daughters will end up with men who will violate them daily at will. The man can choose to invite his friends to gang ba*g ur daughter without her consent; after all, he owns her body, he paid for it

Gbam
Re: When A Man Forces His Wife For Sex, Is It A Rape? by UuzbaGuuzba: 11:18am On Jun 25, 2016
paschu:
Funny that you use love and judgement (fear based manipulation) in the same context.

Anyway, keep lifting your theory above the Truth.

I guess you are smarter than Paul who said that sex is a mutual OBLIGATION in marriage and it's FRAUDLENT to deprive your spouse of sex (be it husband or wife) since you no longer have RIGHT OF OWNERSHIP over your body.


It all depends on what you think about your wife. The pharisees were expert Bible quoters. But they daily received a bashing from Jesus the Messiah that the whole bible was written about and they even connived with Pilate and killed him.

We do Jungle justice in Nigeria because someone stole a phone or watch or bike.

What was it that Jesus did that deserved crucifixion from "holy" Bible quoting Pharisees?

Killed your own Messiah due to pride? Because he spoke a truth that touched deeply into your soul.

Love does not demand. It is mutual between husband and wife. If wife requires toasting to be aroused, do the toasting. That's how it works. Stop being proud about it. Else she will be tempted to fall for someone else who does the toasting better than you. May God forbid. But marred women have had affairs.

It always appears ridiculous to married men to realise that they have to toast and re-toast their wives during marriage. Men's brain functions "conquered and finish" mentality. Women are never really totally conquered. They keep exercising you to start again, conquer. again and again and again.
Re: When A Man Forces His Wife For Sex, Is It A Rape? by iamauxin(m): 2:10pm On Jun 25, 2016
amtaken:
Keep finding faults. I know it is Criminal Code of Nigeria under the
Laws of the Federation of Nigeria 1990.

I knew there would be fault-finders like you when I made that comment.

Is my explanation there right or wrong?

I have finished saying mine.

Bye.
I called your attention to a wrong section....and law....better know the law before you say anything. I wouldn't have bothered if u said it's your opinion. You started by saying from the "legal"standpoint....lemme educate u a lil...

In Nigeria, we've got Criminal Code for the southern part of Nigeria and Penal code for the Northern states... almost all the states now have theirs. And you shouldn't be talking about LFN 1990, the extant one is LFN 2004. Moreover it's not section 7 of the Criminal Code of the southern Nigeria that defined rape, it's Section 6. Pls be informed. And there is a difference between "fault finding" and "polite Correction"....im quite sure you're at one of those peeps that think peeps in Nairaland are dumb. Have a nice day!

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