flamingREED:

Okie_

You can also laugh at Israel for this reason

1 Samuel 8
1 And it came to pass, when Samuel was old, that he made his sons judges over Israel.
2 Now the name of his firstborn was Joel; and the name of his second, Abiah: they were judges in Beersheba.
3 And his sons walked not in his ways, but turned aside after lucre, and took bribes, and perverted judgment.

Kumuyi is not his sons and Kumuyi's sons are not him.
There's nothing to hypocritically revel in.

Why Oyakilome visited Joshua, I have no idea.

And as yet I can't put it side by side with Kumuyi's evangelical reach-outs.

Kumuyi's preached before many preachers, churches including the Celestial church.

Deeming him as bird of a feather with those to whom he preaches amounts to castigating Jesus as a minister of sin because He sends us to sinners everywhere men are found.

Again Kumuyi was on outreach.

He has no time for cross-ministerial fantasies

SalC:
Odi mma
Good to know you've been aound.
I didn't leave you o, just that NL is hardly interesting these days, just boring and recycled threads.

How are you and yours?

Gombs:


Remind me why Eli died please!

Gombs:


It's been his character... . In fact see this thread.. Way back 2013.

https://www.nairaland.com/1362417/olaadegbu-soiling-deeper-life-reputation/3#16953727

That John Kumuyi's wedding is a good laugh tonic... For me sha!

Come see Ola in action

The guy BERNIMORE did a perfect Job in that thread

Muafrika2:

It's not confusion. This is an honest discussion about doctrine

PastorAIO:


Yes, that must be their doctrine of Hypocrisy.

Muafrika2:


Actually, it's the testing of mens spirits. It's a command. To know if they are Godly or not. These two are testing each pastor's spirit.

flamingREED:

Kumuyi's son was disciplined,
And the punishment for their error was transmitted worldwide.

Although, 'twas the lady's transgression, not his son's_
But it served him right because he didn't hear from God before choosing a frivolous lady'_

And in that nation DLB church had no right to supervise a wedding,
The minister was even hired_

So things rolled out badly.

But the discipline meted out was strong_
The couples apologized to the entire DLBC's.

Since then, I've heard nothing 'bout them.

While their stigma lingers,

They have no influence on us.

Also note that Kumuyi's son wasn't a pastor.

Eli died not because of his sons' sins.

[s]He died because he LET THEM CONTINUE IN THE PRIESTS' OFFICE while they dishonored God_
[/s]

God requires discipline among his ministers:

Leviticus 10
1 And Nadab and Abihu, the sons of Aaron, took either of them his censer, and put fire therein, and put incense thereon, and offered strange fire before the LORD, which he commanded them not.
2 And there went out fire from the LORD, and devoured them, and they died before the LORD.
3 Then Moses said unto Aaron, This is it that the LORD spake, saying, I will be sanctified in them that come nigh me, and before all the people I will be glorified. And Aaron held his peace.

Notice Eli RESTRAINED THEM NOT.
He was too tolerant:

1 Samuel 3
13 For I have told him that I will judge his house for ever for the iniquity which he knoweth; because his sons made themselves vile, and he restrained them not.

This negligence cost him his life_

Muafrika2:
What happened to the gospel of extreme grace Gombs? .

Gombs:


Yeah... I rarely have time here too... I just come paste rhapsody of Realities, and Waka! When I see topics created, I wonder... I just wonder in awesome awe.

I'm fine jare... Mine? As in my family? Or my parent and siblings?

Gombs:


Don't derail.

Thanks

SalC:
Lol
All of the above, your family, your parents, your siblings etc

Muafrika2:

I won't.
So what is this all about from a grace preacher if works don't count? This looks like emphasis on works of personalities and an attempt at character assassination (not any of your preachers here) to me.

Gombs:
Hypocrisy is the moral self-contradiction whereby the behavior of one or more people belies their own claimed or implied possession of certain beliefs, standards or virtues.

I have an online personality who the above definition suits almost perfectly. He's a regular here, and an 'elder' in the religion section having being here for a longer period than many. He's of the Deeper Christian Life Ministry, and a core believer of their values. He has the my-church-is-holier-than-yours mentality, but he's seems to be a great guy.

Many years ago, Pastor Chris Oyakhilome visited Prophet T. B. Joshua, and many went agog, saying a lot of stories about it. Olaadegbu was one of such who accused Chris Oyakhilome of being a false preacher, and sighted some hilarious reasons as his basis of accusation. There are a plethora of threads to prove this, most were swept with nairaland tsunami few years ago, but here's one.

https://www.nairaland.com/1893751/10-terrible-scandals-pastor-oyakhilome#26133778

Pastor Chris Oyakhilome was labelled false because he visited another man of God, T. B. Joshua.

Fast forward years on, Pastor Kumuiyi the GS of DLBC, Olaadegbu 's church traveled to Ukraine to minister at Pastor Sunday Adelaja's Church. Olaadegbu couldn't keep the joy down, he was all over nairaland like white on rice.

Sunday Adelaja's church was one of the largest in Europe, with an outstanding followership. Olaadegbu posted a video, he talked about the miracles and testimonies. Boy! Olaadegbu was excited. He cheered on the miracles he earlier slandered Oyakhilome for, both of the visit to T. B Joshua's church and the Healing school.

Of one of the threads he spoke about the visit he IMPLIED that anyone associated to T B Joshua was not of God, and Pastor Chris' visit was just a confirmation of his ineligibility of being a man of God.

Here's the thread where he was excited like a fly that just spotted a heap of poo.

https://www.nairaland.com/647876/pastor-w.f-kumuyi-god-embassys

Few weeks ago, same pastor Sunday Adelaja was in the news for many wrong reasons, adultery, mismanagement of church funds etc. (Now, I'm not saying he's guilty of any of the accusations), and yesterday, I read he's been declared a persona non grata in Russia, and also He's back to Nigeria. Olaadegbu suddenly went missing.

Let's take a little digression. When pastor Chris was accused of adultery by the media (His wife never accused him of such ) Ola was one of the many who seemed orgasmic about the news, in fact he created a thread and named it "10 Terrible Scandals Of Pastor Oyakhilome, As Wife Claims Adultery". He's yet to create another thread on Pastor Sunday Adelaja.

Now, if by the reasoning of Olaadegbu, that Pastor Chris Oyakhilome was not a 'true man of God', merely because he visited TB Joshua's church, should we now say same of Kumuiyi?

Has olaadegbu not read the news? Why's he suddenly weary of creating a thread? Just as he celebrated miracles in Pastor Sunday Adelaja's Church when Kumuiyi visited, why was Pastor Chris' visit then a problem?


Is olaadegbu plainly a hypocritical or was it just a clear case of calling a dog a bad name just so that you'd hang it?

What makes Kumuiyi's visit sooooooo different from Chris' to other church?

If Pastor Chris' association with TB Joshua (a man who was accused of being an agent of the devil) earned him widespread criticism even from Ola, should Kumuiyi's association with Adelaja be seen in same negative light?

NB:
I'm NOT accusing any pastor of crimes they're accused of, I pray for Pastor Sunday, I'll always do. I'm however asking if Ola's hypocrisy isn't nauseating?

Cheers

brosci:



op i just saw the post and it is really funny.ivhave heard of this olalgbeu or whatever and he is one of the reason innocent deeper life are been criticized in nairaland. i am a deeper life also and i love and respect t.b joshua, i dnt care what people or olagbeu says about him. olagbeu shd stop all his rantings because if t.b is not evil then he has slandered God annoited and there is consequences. people often call me a free minded deeper lifer and as much as i love the church, i am not happy wit some of its traditions as it has hindered many outsiders coming to the church even if they want to, though changes are already happening. so i will advice olagbeu to stop his holy holy mentality because it is doing more harm than good to the church. kumuyi doesnt even encourage it.

brosci:



op i just saw the post and it is really funny.ivhave heard of this olalgbeu or whatever and he is one of the reason innocent deeper life are been criticized in nairaland. i am a deeper life also and i love and respect t.b joshua, i dnt care what people or olagbeu says about him. olagbeu shd stop all his rantings because if t.b is not evil then he has slandered God annoited and there is consequences. people often call me a free minded deeper lifer and as much as i love the church, i am not happy wit some of its traditions as it has hindered many outsiders coming to the church even if they want to, though changes are already happening. so i will advice olagbeu to stop his holy holy mentality because it is doing more harm than good to the church. kumuyi doesnt even encourage it.

brosci:



op i just saw the post and it is really funny.ivhave heard of this olalgbeu or whatever and he is one of the reason innocent deeper life are been criticized in nairaland. i am a deeper life also and i love and respect t.b joshua, i dnt care what people or olagbeu says about him. olagbeu shd stop all his rantings because if t.b is not evil then he has slandered God annoited and there is consequences. people often call me a free minded deeper lifer and as much as i love the church, i am not happy wit some of its traditions as it has hindered many outsiders coming to the church even if they want to, though changes are already happening. so i will advice olagbeu to stop his holy holy mentality because it is doing more harm than good to the church. kumuyi doesnt even encourage it.

Gombs:

Olaadegbu, bring a pen and paper and take notes.

Gombs:

Olaadegbu, bring a pen and paper and take notes.

Gombs:


Olaadegbu, bring a pen and paper and take notes.

SalC:
@Gombs
Mine are good too.

Gombs:



Greet them...please don't go again.

PAGAN9JA:
Religion is truely a fraud.

Gombs:


True!


However, Christianity is not a religion

PAGAN9JA:


True!

It is a cult.

petra1:


A good cult oh not like yours

PAGAN9JA:


True!

It is a cult.

Gombs:


yessssss..we drink the blood of Christ and eat his Flesh