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Re: Understanding And Receiving The Grace Of God by IMASTEX: 3:18pm On Jul 10, 2016
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Re: Understanding And Receiving The Grace Of God by Lateralmaths(m): 5:11pm On Jul 10, 2016
Romans 3:20-28 KJV
Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. [21] But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; [22] Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: [23] For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; [24] Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: [25] Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; [26] To declare, I say , at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus. [27] Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. [28] Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
Re: Understanding And Receiving The Grace Of God by tosinjay(m): 7:47pm On Jul 10, 2016
Lateralmaths:
Romans 3:20-28 KJV
Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. [21] But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; [22] Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: [23] For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; [24] Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: [25] Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; [26] To declare, I say , at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus. [27] Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. [28] Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
What are you implying sir, as you had to post it twice on both pages.?
Re: Understanding And Receiving The Grace Of God by uvalued(m): 7:17pm On Jul 11, 2016
tosinjay:

2Timothy 2:19-21. Grace has been trampled upon often times and taken outside it's discipline.
you still see Grace as an "it" not a He which will distort Grace as a thing.
Re: Understanding And Receiving The Grace Of God by promise10: 8:12pm On Jul 11, 2016
hopefulLandlord:
Observing
Observing what?

I thought you are an atheist, what are you observing? Grace? You need grace? IT IS FOR FREE!

You can receive by faith alone.
Re: Understanding And Receiving The Grace Of God by Kobojunkie: 10:29pm On Mar 31, 2021
tosinjay:
The grace of God
By the reason of the very topic, i do pray we receive the grace of God in our lives in Jesus name.

As we Christians say often times, it's by God's grace. There's this urge and desire we might something have to fully grab its concept but one way or the other ignorant of and there's been an error out there to the topic of grace.
The need of clarity and understanding is what this post aims at.

Grace;
Grace has teachings, grace has doctrines and grace has instructions; Just as medical prescribed drugs has instructions for its intake.
And the bible has been provided to us as it's manual by which we are thought on how to live in this present world.

The definition and operations of divine grace
Ephesians 2 v 8,9
Grace is the kindness of God towards an unmerited man.
It is the goodness of God towards sinners.
The help of God to those who will serve Him(Desire to serve Him and to make heaven)
Grace is the enablement of God toward an helpless man.
His pardon for sinners.
It is the riches of God in Christ Jesus
Isaiah 65 v 1, Romans 5 v 6-8, Philippians 2 v 13
For it is but God who worketh in all man to will amd to do; 1 Samuel 15 v 17, Ephesians 3 v 8, Exodus 33 v 12-17.
There's need to note that grace for service is different from grace for eternal life. The visions, prophecy, and revelations to people are for service, as we may think but the word says the gift of God is without repentance; But that portion refers to the grace for service.

Grace and truth
John 1 v 17, John 17 v 17, Titus 2 v 11
Grace points the way to eternal life, truth is the way to eternal life.
Grace has a book which is the bible(The truth), without truth grace is nothing.
Grace teaches us to deny worldliness and ungodliness, things to leave behind and things to hold on to. Matthew 28 v 18-20
Grace brought teachings and not alone, it's the truth that gives eternal life and not grace, grace is the the companion of truth, it is the help meet.
Grace is equally needed as truth.
I am afraid you are thoroughly mistaken. The grace of God is the eternal life that you receive from Jesus Christ when you are saved from the condemnation of sin(not to be confused with sin itself) which is Death. In place of Death which you deserved for your unbelief, Christ gives you instead Grace since you now choose to believe, and so you are no longer condemned to die but are able to live eternally thanks, not to grace, but Jesus Christ.
To suggest that the grace(eternal life) you receive from Him takes the place of the Spirit of God is to reveal you are working under some serious delusion there.
tosinjay:
What will grace do?
Grace will enlighten your mind to the truth and show you ways it can be done.
Grace seasons on truth, like salt to food.
Grace removes fear and dreadfulness of truth, so we can approach truth boldly.
It strengthens the heart to do the truth.
Grace supplies what is required to obey and do the truth.
Grace defeats the enemy of truth to cause the truth to prevail.
Grace goes out to touch the hearts of men for you and goes out to prepare the future.
Grace escorts you in the path of truth to your destination. Galatians 2 v 21.
The grace(eternal life) which God has given you in place of Death, does not grant you any of what you have listed above. All grace is is an extension of your lifeline into eternity. It is not meant to be worshipped or exalted in any manner of form. And it does not save. Instead your salvation from Death is courtesy of Jesus Christ Himself.

tosinjay:
Truth and love
2 John 1 v 1-2
Love gives peace for the truth to prosper.
Love is the truth made practical
Love is the tyre for the vehicle of truth.
With truth in us and we don't practice love everything is frustrated. Love is the reason for truth 1 Timothy 1 v 5.
Why do God say we must live in peace, follow peace with all men? It is for love to flourish. Truth without love is but a vehicle without tyre.
Love gives truth its efficacy. It is the evidence of truth which Christ said; a new commandment have i given unto you that you love as i have love the church 1 John 4 v 18.
Love gives glory to the evidence of truth, it gives courage and boldness to the bearers and preachers of truth.
And the fullness of all is that Love is God, God is love!
He loves the righteous, loves the sinners and the backsliders and wants them to come to repentance. 1 John 4 v 7-8, 1 Corinthians 13 v 4-8.
Again with more meaningless lies! God is Love and God is True. Jesus Christ, the Word of God is the Truth of God.

tosinjay:
Conclusion:
1. Grace gives us the calling
2. Truth shows us the commandments to observe for entry into heaven
3. Love is the life that qualifies for heaven.

Hebrew 4 v 16
The throne of God is the throne of grace, may we receive mercy and obtain His grace in Jesus name. Amen

This is an excerpt from the teaching of Pastor Paul Rika
The grace(eternal life) you receive by believing in Jesus Christ gives you no such thing as a calling. The worshipping of grace(eternal life) in any way of form is idol worship! undecided
Re: Understanding And Receiving The Grace Of God by Kobojunkie: 10:34pm On Mar 31, 2021
This is the first thread I've come across which made it to FP without a single comment. Well, no need to raise hell, it's worth it, a very beautiful post that could pass for a Sunday sermon, as it were. [yes I am biased to the right, goan report me to ur class captain]
To the topic, grace is one of the most abused and over applied Christian doctrines. We deliberately do things which we know to be wrong, thereafter clinging to grace for bail out. But "shall we continue in sin that grace may abound?".
I'm guilty of this too, Lord have mercy.
Well, there are indeed those who will continue in sin even after being redeemed from Death and gifted with eternal life(grace) from. For them, Hell has been prepared and so, it is their choice to continue in sin and yes, eternal life(grace) is for eternity! undecided
Re: Understanding And Receiving The Grace Of God by Kobojunkie: 10:35pm On Mar 31, 2021
davibid:
Grace is simply getting what you don't deserve!
Happy Sunday guys
Wrong! Grace refers to the eternal life that you have in Jesus Christ. simple! undecided

Jesus Christ is the way, the Truth and the Life(grace)! undecided
Re: Understanding And Receiving The Grace Of God by Kobojunkie: 10:37pm On Mar 31, 2021
Grace is also one line I use in putting the 'holier than though' Christian brethren in check whenever they begin to go off about their right standing and my seeming 'less than righteous' life.
"by grace are ye saved, not by works , lest any man should boast"
You are not saved by grace(eternal life). You are saved by believing in Jesus Christ, He is the one who then gave you eternal life(grace), taking away the condemnation(Death) placed on you by God before that. undecided

And yes, you did work in order to obtain that eternal life(grace), that work is the obedience of Jesus Christ's command that you believe in Him in order to be saved from the condemnation of sin(not to be confused with sin itself) which is Death. undecided
Re: Understanding And Receiving The Grace Of God by Kobojunkie: 10:40pm On Mar 31, 2021
iliyande:
In Romans 5:2, the law was given to show us that we are sinful But the grace of God was given to turn us to God (Ephesians 2:8-10). Clearly, the Grace of God was not given so that we could merely learn about the concept of grace. Understanding grace is important but that alone will never change a life unless we move from the knowledge and understanding of grace to the application of grace. We often know what to do, but we just don’t do it. The benefit comes from the application. Application makes all the difference. Good writerup. May His grace accompany all of us and for evermore. Paul Rika. I know him in person.
Grace simply refers to the eternal extension on life that Jesus Christ gives to you when you choose to believe in Him. Nothing else to understand about grace except that it is not to become a god in your life and existence. undecided
Re: Understanding And Receiving The Grace Of God by Kobojunkie: 10:44pm On Mar 31, 2021
rukz:
indeed grace is what lift us over our peers.
Wrong! Eternal life(grace) does no such thing. You have been deceived into thinking that grace is some magical fount that gives and does for you that which Jesus Christ said instead that He will. Be careful that you do not make for yourselves idols of that which you have little understanding of. undecided
Re: Understanding And Receiving The Grace Of God by Kobojunkie: 10:45pm On Mar 31, 2021
mizzyboy007:
I really don't understand what people mean by grace of "God".... look its either hard work pays you or you are just fvcking lucky. There is no such thing as the grace of "God".
Eternal life is what grace really means.
Re: Understanding And Receiving The Grace Of God by Kobojunkie: 10:46pm On Mar 31, 2021
Lateralmaths:
Grace is a total package. The grace for eternal life is not different from the grace for service. Grace is grace.
Selah
Wrong! Grace is eternal life that we receive when we are saved by believing in Jesus Christ, nothing more. undecided
There is no such thing as grace for service.. that is gibberish! undecided
Re: Understanding And Receiving The Grace Of God by Kobojunkie: 10:48pm On Mar 31, 2021
uvalued:
what the op is stating is GRACE is a thing RATHER Grace is the Person! so seeing grace as athing reduces it to hard cold law... GRACE is a warm loving PERSON who is YESHUA.
Grace is the eternal life that you receive in place of Death which you previously deserved when you make the choice to believe in Jesus Christ. undecided
Re: Understanding And Receiving The Grace Of God by Kobojunkie: 2:14am On Apr 01, 2021
tosinjay:

Grace is a total package because it has been given to us all, it's very well true. But that i am able dream to dreams and come to pass and see vision, heal the sick doesn't mean am qualified for heaven as those are but by the grace of God but not of my own. Making heaven makes clear that our personal life and our fruit of yielding to the truth is what make us make heaven. After the whole gifts to serve in those aspects i mentioned then having a besetting sin will then rule one out.
Eternal life is a total package? What do you mean by that? undecided

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