nemesis2u:


can u post details on the various guided munition used by china

There are too many guided bombs rockets or missles used by China,of Soviet or Western origin ,I don't have time to post them.You may paste some articles from internet if you want to.

Flight hour cost of US plane


A-10C Warthog Attack Plane — $17,716



AC-130U Spooky Gunship — $45,986



B-1B Lancer Bomber — $57,807


B-2A Spirit Stealth Bomber — $169,313



B-52H Stratofortress Bomber — $69,708



C-130J Hercules Cargo Plane — $14,014



C-17 Globemaster Cargo Plane — $23,811



C-20B VIP Plane (Senior Pentagon Officials) — $32,212



C-32A VIP Plane (Vice President, Cabinet Officers) — $42,936



C-5B Galaxy Cargo Plane — $78,817


CV-22B Osprey Tilt-Rotor — $83,256



E-3B Sentry AWACS Radar Plane — $39,587



E-4B Flying Headquarters — $163,485



F-15C Eagle Fighter — $41,921



F-16C Viper Fighter — $22,514



F-22A Raptor Fighter — $68,362



HH-60G Pave Hawk Helicopter — $24,475



KC-10A Extender Tanker — $21,170



MC-130H Combat Talon II Special Operations Plane — $32,752



MQ-1B Predator Drone — $3,679



MQ-9A Reaper Drone — $4,762



RQ-4B Global Hawk Drone — $49,089



T-38C Talon Jet Trainer — $9,355



T-6A Texan II Turboprop Trainer — $2,235



U-2 Dragon Lady Spy Plane — $30,813



UH-1N Huey Helicopter — $13,634


VC-25A Air Force One — $161,591

TATA LAMV



MAHINDRA LAMV

- the multi mission helicopter AW-149 presented at Farnborough 2016 is the version with rocket launchers (70/80mm), 7.62 minigun pod or 12,7mm machine guns, door mounted 12,7mm machine guns and window mounted 7.62mm mimiguns and provision for air-to-air and air-to-ground missiles.
The AW149 can be used for: troops transport, MEDEVAC/CASEVAC, special operations, CSAR/SAR, close-air support and re-supply -
(Source: Leonardocompany.com)

jakeporeshenko:
- the multi mission helicopter AW-149 presented at Farnborough 2016 is the version with rocket launchers (70/80mm), 7.62 minigun pod or 12,7mm machine guns, door mounted 12,7mm machine guns and window mounted 7.62mm mimiguns and provision for air-to-air and air-to-ground missiles.
The AW149 can be used for: troops transport, MEDEVAC/CASEVAC, special operations, CSAR/SAR, close-air support and re-supply -
(Source: Leonardocompany.com)

Cause of the poor performance of the A109 in service with SAAF.


I'm unsure of this one.

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Protecting fuel distribution lines in support of military operations in hot danger zones is a major concern for military planners. The French Army has recently deployed the Carapace, a highly protected fuel lorry designed to survive an ambush attack, fight back and cpress on delivering the fuel to the front lines

https://ria.ru/defense_safety/20160916/1477120166.html

Russian Helicopters to deliver a squadron (12 helos) of Mi-35M to Nigeria

[img]http://cdn4.img.ria.ru/images/147633/43/1476334344.jpg[/img]

@bidexiii henry240

[img]http://sdelanounas.ru/i/d/3/d/d3d3LmF1c2FpcnBvd2VyLm5ldC9QVk8tUy81OU42LVByb3Rpdm5pay1HRS1STFMtMlMuanBnP19faWQ9ODE3NjE=.jpg[/img]

long-range M-Band radars Protivnik-GE

nemesis2u:
[img]http://sdelanounas.ru/i/d/3/d/d3d3LmF1c2FpcnBvd2VyLm5ldC9QVk8tUy81OU42LVByb3Rpdm5pay1HRS1STFMtMlMuanBnP19faWQ9ODE3NjE=.jpg[/img]

long-range M-Band radars Protivnik-GE

Radars. I love them lol. Always remind me of spark gap.

nemesis2u:
https://ria.ru/defense_safety/20160916/1477120166.html

Russian Helicopters to deliver a squadron (12 helos) of Mi-35M to Nigeria

[img]http://cdn4.img.ria.ru/images/147633/43/1476334344.jpg[/img]

@bidexiii henry240

ETA?

MikeCZA:
Cause of the poor performance of the A109 in service with SAAF.


I'm unsure of this one.

Can you elaborate on poor performance or share experiences SAAF had.

nemesis2u:
https://ria.ru/defense_safety/20160916/1477120166.html

Russian Helicopters to deliver a squadron (12 helos) of Mi-35M to Nigeria

[img]http://cdn4.img.ria.ru/images/147633/43/1476334344.jpg[/img]

@bidexii henry24

A squadroun is appropriate. We've always known this, not new information, the Air Chief on national T.V did confirm 2 months back, the service had ordered 12 MI-35M helicopters from Russia.


Thanks for providing a Russian source.

Henry240:


A squadroun is appropriate. We've always known this, not new information, the Air Chief on national T.V did confirm 2 months back, the service had ordered 12 MI-35M helicopters from Russia.


Thanks for providing a Russian source.

It is actually an extension of the previously signed contract to 2018

jakeporeshenko:


Can you elaborate on poor performance or share experiences SAAF had.

Poor performance in hot and high environment.

High level above sea level.


Hot temperatures.

Great for airshows, but it would get you killed in real AA combat.
You bleed off virtually all your airspeed doing these manoeuvres. BIG no-no in dogfighting. Even if you get a missile shot off, the other guys wingman will kill you almost for certain, so the best outcome is a 1 for 1 suicide tactic. IF you get the other guy.

M14A1:

How many persons out of 50 do you know that can perform a backflip at a spot??
.......not many i guess.

The kulbit is a full cobra


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2dgi2NhMSw

nemesis2u:


TATA LAMV



MAHINDRA LAMV

looks good. what's the engine and transmission?

[img]http://st.galaxypub.vn/staticFile/Subject/2015/01/08/379049/tim-hieu-suc-manh-cua-lu-doan-679_8043550.png[/img]

[img]http://st.galaxypub.vn/staticFile/Subject/2014/05/27/redut_2702084.jpg[/img]

Radar guided Redut P35 Missile, very old but still deadly. range 500km, speed 1.4 Mach, 1,000kg conventional warhead.

used by Vietnam supplied by USSR

The TATA LAMV (Light Armoured Multipurpose Vehicle) can be deployed in troop transportation, reconnaissance, border patrol, convoy protection, light strike and urban warfare missions.

The all-composite detachable crew pod and V-shaped hull is based on 4x4 chassis.

The forward crew cab houses two while the troop section offers seating for four soldiers. The rear compartment provides space for carriage of equipment and cargo. The vehicle also contains a single roof hatch.

The modular design of the LAMV allows for future upgrades while maintaining operational superiority during its service life. The vehicle also offers low life cycle cost as it uses indigenous equipment and systems. The major subsystems share commonality with the other fleet of vehicles in service.

The driver and commander display systems enable observation for the crew. The crew pod can be installed with an electro-optic (EO) system, radio, global positioning system (GPS) and driver assistance camera.

The vehicle also integrates a navigation unit including a GPS and an inertial positioning system in the absence of GPS signals. The LAMV can be equipped with charge-coupled device (CCD) cameras, thermal imaging systems and laser range finder (LRF).

The LAMV comes installed with telescopic mast on the rear of its hull. The mast is equipped with surveillance systems. The advanced observation and surveillance systems fitted aboard the vehicle ensure the detection of various threats on all terrains and allow missions in urban warfare scenarios.

The open-top turret above the crew compartment of the LAMV is mounted with a 7.62mm or 12.7mm machine gun. The vehicle can also be optionally armed with a range of weapon stations and smoke grenade launchers.

The monocoque composite material pod mounted on high hardness steel bottom V hull provides a high degree of blast protection. The crew capsule is built using composite and ceramic armour systems to offer all-around protection in high threat environments.

The vehicle is provided with Stanag level II (a) and (b) blast protection and Stanag level II ballistic protection. The crew survivability is further enhanced with the inclusion of mine-blast protected seats. The vehicle can also be fitted with AFDSS (Automatic Fire Detection and Suppression System) as required by the customers.

The sides and forward parts of the turret offer NIJ level III ballistic protection for the gunner.

The LAMV is fitted with a 210hp water cooled turbocharged diesel engine coupled to an automatic transmission (five forward and one reverse). The engine provides the vehicle a high power to weight ratio of 25hp/t.

The vehicle features all wheel independent double wish bone type suspension. The self-levelling suspension with anti-roll bars provides comfort for the crew irrespective of the vehicle's load. The rubber-tired road wheels fitted with run flats and central tire inflation system (CTIS) enhance the mobility. The LAMV can achieve a maximum road speed of 105km/h. The 4x4 LAMV has a length of 5.5m, width of 2.5m and a height of 2.3m. The gross vehicle weight is 8,000kg and the payload carrying capacity is 1,500kg.

no info on the 2nd one , the pic i posted is the first picture to be snapped by anybody, nobody is sure of it , we decided it was mahindra product because of design similarities with other vehicles made by the company for the military . the vehicle sported a red plate which indicates it is being trialed by the military.



we think it is derived from this one mahindra AXE, the Israelis can be seen trialing/evaluating it in the pic.

nemesis2u:


The TATA LAMV (Light Armoured Multipurpose Vehicle) can be deployed in troop transportation, reconnaissance, border patrol, convoy protection, light strike and urban warfare missions.

The all-composite detachable crew pod and V-shaped hull is based on 4x4 chassis.

The forward crew cab houses two while the troop section offers seating for four soldiers. The rear compartment provides space for carriage of equipment and cargo. The vehicle also contains a single roof hatch.

The modular design of the LAMV allows for future upgrades while maintaining operational superiority during its service life. The vehicle also offers low life cycle cost as it uses indigenous equipment and systems. The major subsystems share commonality with the other fleet of vehicles in service.

The driver and commander display systems enable observation for the crew. The crew pod can be installed with an electro-optic (EO) system, radio, global positioning system (GPS) and driver assistance camera.

The vehicle also integrates a navigation unit including a GPS and an inertial positioning system in the absence of GPS signals. The LAMV can be equipped with charge-coupled device (CCD) cameras, thermal imaging systems and laser range finder (LRF).

The LAMV comes installed with telescopic mast on the rear of its hull. The mast is equipped with surveillance systems. The advanced observation and surveillance systems fitted aboard the vehicle ensure the detection of various threats on all terrains and allow missions in urban warfare scenarios.

The open-top turret above the crew compartment of the LAMV is mounted with a 7.62mm or 12.7mm machine gun. The vehicle can also be optionally armed with a range of weapon stations and smoke grenade launchers.

The monocoque composite material pod mounted on high hardness steel bottom V hull provides a high degree of blast protection. The crew capsule is built using composite and ceramic armour systems to offer all-around protection in high threat environments.

The vehicle is provided with Stanag level II (a) and (b) blast protection and Stanag level II ballistic protection. The crew survivability is further enhanced with the inclusion of mine-blast protected seats. The vehicle can also be fitted with AFDSS (Automatic Fire Detection and Suppression System) as required by the customers.

The sides and forward parts of the turret offer NIJ level III ballistic protection for the gunner.

The LAMV is fitted with a 210hp water cooled turbocharged diesel engine coupled to an automatic transmission (five forward and one reverse). The engine provides the vehicle a high power to weight ratio of 25hp/t.

The vehicle features all wheel independent double wish bone type suspension. The self-levelling suspension with anti-roll bars provides comfort for the crew irrespective of the vehicle's load. The rubber-tired road wheels fitted with run flats and central tire inflation system (CTIS) enhance the mobility. The LAMV can achieve a maximum road speed of 105km/h. The 4x4 LAMV has a length of 5.5m, width of 2.5m and a height of 2.3m. The gross vehicle weight is 8,000kg and the payload carrying capacity is 1,500kg.

Design similar to the RG32.

Lower mobility.


Border security is what this vehicles should mostly be utilised for.

TATA xenon supplied to myanmer thailand , months back there was a repeat order for 400 of these.

61mech:
Great for airshows, but it would get you killed in real AA combat.
You bleed off virtually all your airspeed doing these manoeuvres. BIG no-no in dogfighting. Even if you get a missile shot off, the other guys wingman will kill you almost for certain, so the best outcome is a 1 for 1 suicide tactic. IF you get the other guy.

Low airspeed is where you don't want to be in a dog fight, so yeah completely accurate.

MPV made by mahindra DLSI (JV)

nemesis2u:


TATA xenon supplied to myanmer thailand , months back there was a repeat order for 400 of these.

asia is traditionally Toyota pick-up truck market,why would they chose TATA? even a second hand toyota engine is more reliable and effectient than most US engine,and I don't think TATA can beat toyota,there must be some other reasons rather than technical advantages.

MikeCZA:


Border security is what this vehicles should mostly be utilised for.

lol

the army tender specifies that the vehicle should be suitable for use as

1.Light Multipurpose Reconnaissance Vehicle (LAM)

2.Armed Reconnaissance Vehicle

3.LSV with Protection for Counter Insurgency Operations

4.Observation Post (OP) Party Vehicle

5.Field Artillery Tractor (FAT) for Para Field Artillery Regiments

6.Recce Vehicle for Gun Position Officer (GPO) for Artillery Regiments

7.Recce, Surveillance & Ghatak Platoon Vehicle for Infantry

8.Engineering Reconnaissance Vehicle

9.Common Utility Communication Vehicle

10.Ambulance Vehicle

11.Field Repair Team Vehicle

12.Para (SF) and BC/OC Parties of Para Field Regiment

13.Low Level Lightweight Radar for Air Defence Artillery

14.IGLA Carrier for Air Defence Artillery

15.Coverer Vehicle for Air Defence Artillery

16.LSV-based Light Radio Vehicle/Communication Rover for Signals

17.LSV for Tactical Satellite Terminals for Signals

18.Shelter for Unit Entity Vehicle for Signals

19.Cable Utility Vehicle for Corps of Signals

20.Shelter for Unit Field Wireless System for Corps of Signals

among others

the vehicle must operate in deserts, in marshy terrain, in sub zero icy mountainous regions etc too

i am curious
u said lower mobility . how did u come to the conclusion?

chinese8107:


asia is traditionally Toyota pick-up truck market,why would they chose TATA? even a second hand toyota engine is more reliable and effectient than most US engine,and I don't think TATA can beat toyota,there must be some other reasons rather than technical advantages.

dont know

u should ask the govt. of Myanmar, Thailand, Indonesia, Philippines etc

while you are at it, u could also ask European , African , Latin American , middle east countries among others too
and inform/enlighten me ASAP

nemesis2u:


lol

the army tender specifies that the vehicle should be suitable for use as

1.Light Multipurpose Reconnaissance Vehicle (LAM)

2.Armed Reconnaissance Vehicle

3.LSV with Protection for Counter Insurgency Operations

4.Observation Post (OP) Party Vehicle

5.Field Artillery Tractor (FAT) for Para Field Artillery Regiments

6.Recce Vehicle for Gun Position Officer (GPO) for Artillery Regiments

7.Recce, Surveillance & Ghatak Platoon Vehicle for Infantry

8.Engineering Reconnaissance Vehicle

9.Common Utility Communication Vehicle

10.Ambulance Vehicle

11.Field Repair Team Vehicle

12.Para (SF) and BC/OC Parties of Para Field Regiment

13.Low Level Lightweight Radar for Air Defence Artillery

14.IGLA Carrier for Air Defence Artillery

15.Coverer Vehicle for Air Defence Artillery

16.LSV-based Light Radio Vehicle/Communication Rover for Signals

17.LSV for Tactical Satellite Terminals for Signals

18.Shelter for Unit Entity Vehicle for Signals

19.Cable Utility Vehicle for Corps of Signals

20.Shelter for Unit Field Wireless System for Corps of Signals

among others


i am curious
u said lower mobility . how did u come to the conclusion?

From the information you provided. I don't know if it's from one of those sites.

The officers and procurement augments who drew up those requirements...

Ashok Leyland Colt (developed with Panhard)

nemesis2u:


dont know

u should ask the govt. of Myanmar, Thailand, Indonesia, Philippines etc

while you are at it, u could also ask European , African , Latin American , middle east countries among others too
and inform/enlighten me ASAP

Not certain about military versions but Tata civilian bakkies(that's what we call pickup trucks in SA) aren't that rugged compared to Japanese and American bakkies. As operated by many farmers in SA.


Procurement at times isn't about going after promised military capabilities.

Some put sovereign control before anything else.

While some prefer "up front payments".

MikeCZA:
From the information you provided. I don't know if it's from one of those sites.

The officers and procurement augments who drew up those requirements...

i am really at loss of words at ur reply

anyways none of the competitors passed the competitive trials and the tender was cancelled.

army is expected to issue a new one again with almost same specifications.

total projected requirements 4000-5000 , maybe end up double the nos.

few months back they ordered 4000 light GP vehicles taking tally to 10000 plus

MikeCZA:


Procurement at times isn't about going after promised military capabilities.

Some put sovereign control before anything else.

While some prefer "up front payments".

maybe

or may not be