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Reply To Can Igbos Survive Without Lagos? by Nobody: 10:11am On Jul 12, 2016 |
The answer to this question can be found in history. Remember the Abiola crisis (Oso Abiola ) when due to insecurity, a lot of Ndigbo relocated to the east. Lagos became a dead zone. A desert. I initially vowed not to go back to the east, but could not cope after a few days. Lagos needs Ndigbo to survive. 3 Likes |
Re: Reply To Can Igbos Survive Without Lagos? by PureWays(m): 10:19am On Jul 12, 2016 |
Bullshit! |
Re: Reply To Can Igbos Survive Without Lagos? by winetapper: 10:20am On Jul 12, 2016 |
S6un:Noborry forze you to stay in lagoz If you feelz you cant remainz gerara there 2 Likes |
Re: Reply To Can Igbos Survive Without Lagos? by SuperS1Panther: 10:38am On Jul 12, 2016 |
Hunger nearly killed Igbos in the gully eroded land of red mud and they had to run back. 6 Likes |
Re: Reply To Can Igbos Survive Without Lagos? by Nobody: 10:43am On Jul 12, 2016 |
SuperS1Panther: No, a lot of igbo stayed back in the east after that crisis. A case in point, my cousin stayed back, he is now a naira billionaire 4 Likes |
Re: Reply To Can Igbos Survive Without Lagos? by BE811APP: 10:48am On Jul 12, 2016 |
Diversities Has done more harm than Good to Nigeria at all Levels.. I Blame our Colonial Masters and Our Leaders Past.. We have not moved an inch forword Just because of DIVERSITY #SAD |
Re: Reply To Can Igbos Survive Without Lagos? by Nobody: 10:58am On Jul 12, 2016 |
Economic activity makes Lagos thick. Think of what will happen to the following Lagos port Banks Markets Schools Everything Remove Ndigbo, Lagos will not last 6 months 5 Likes |
Re: Reply To Can Igbos Survive Without Lagos? by SuperS1Panther: 11:00am On Jul 12, 2016 |
S6un: Naaa. Rather millions came back with their relatives and kinsmen. 5 Likes |
Re: Reply To Can Igbos Survive Without Lagos? by RockHard: 11:12am On Jul 12, 2016 |
We all saw what happened after Fashola deported some of them the other time. That right there is a pointer to what will become of them. "There will be [igbo] weeping and gnashing of teeth". . Lagos is like Oyingbo market, it's too big to miss them. Nothing they offer that can't be replaced. Absolutely nothing. 6 Likes |
Re: Reply To Can Igbos Survive Without Lagos? by temptnow: 12:23pm On Jul 12, 2016 |
Igbos own Lagos period. Without us yorubbers can't eat. They are too lazy. 1 Like |
Re: Reply To Can Igbos Survive Without Lagos? by DexterousOne(m): 12:53pm On Jul 12, 2016 |
There are many ethnic groups who live in Lagos... But it baffles me that it is only Igbo people that SOME Yoruba people like picking on, and directing their bigotry to... But why? 2 Likes |
Re: Reply To Can Igbos Survive Without Lagos? by T8ksy(m): 1:11pm On Jul 12, 2016 |
^^^^ For the simple reason that ibos always allude the success of Lagos to themselves ONLY as if they are the only ethnic group aside yorubas, in the city. 6 Likes |
Re: Reply To Can Igbos Survive Without Lagos? by StOla: 1:12pm On Jul 12, 2016 |
Does the Igbo man manufacture anything in Lagos that is sold as export, thereby bringing money to the purse of Lagos State that wasn't in Lagos before? Answer is NO! The Igbo man is an economic refugee in Lagos. He needs the market that Lagos population provides so that he will sell his goods. The Igbo man needs me to buy his goods, and he will pay his taxes in return to the government of Lagos State. The Igbo man imports goods from China and India and collects the bulk of his money from the Lagos population to keep factory workers in China and India employed. How has this Igbo man brought money to develop Lagos? Instead he takes money from Lagos and makes it his own. Who should be grateful? Who needs Lagos? He has in no way generated any money for Lagos that wasn't resident in Lagos before. Now take the Igbo man away from Lagos. How will he survive? The demolished shops in Oshodi resulted to a lot of cries from the Igbo tenants while the Yoruba owners of the demolished shops moved on after the initial disappointment. The government had already given numerous notices to have the traders relocate. The Igbos who were just tenants couldn't move on and exclaimed, "how are we going to survive?". The irrelevant Ohaneze then declared the governor of Lagos State as an enemy of the Ndigbo, and gave the usual irrelevant ultimatum to have him revert his development strides in Lagos to accommodate the chaos associated with any Igbo grouping in Lagos. At no time did the affected Igbo traders consider even relocating to Biafran land to continue their trade. At no time did Ohaneze encourage the Igbo traders to come home and deprive Lagos of IGR for the benefit of Anambra or Ebonyi. Who can guess where those affected traders are now? They have either found another soon to be demolished market to survive in Lagos, or they have found their way to Sango-Otta, Ibadan, Akure, Ilorin, Abuja, Kaduna, Kano, or even Maiduguri, so as to survive. Why the vehement distaste for Igboland to continue their business at home with their fellow hardworking tribesmen who don't envy them? So who needs Lagos? So who is master and who is servant in Lagos? Who has ever heard a dispensable servant giving the master of the field ultimatums on how he organises his field? If the master does not want the servant, the servant goes. If the servant does not like the master, the servant still goes. If the master decides to redevelop his field, the servant must still go. Let the servant know his place, as the Master's place is already known. 8 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Reply To Can Igbos Survive Without Lagos? by attackgat: 1:18pm On Jul 12, 2016 |
S6un: Oh yeah! 'Oso Abiola'. A reminder of how the Northerners kidnapped MKO Abiola and snuffed the life out of him in detention. 6 Likes |
Re: Reply To Can Igbos Survive Without Lagos? by malton: 4:30pm On Jul 12, 2016 |
StOla: This comment should have closed the thread. You've said all that there is to. 1 Like |
Re: Reply To Can Igbos Survive Without Lagos? by scorpio2013: 4:39pm On Jul 12, 2016 |
They Igbos make up to 40percent of lagos, the market you are talking about has a significant Igbo population so if Igbos leave lagos, they will leave with a significant propotion of the lagos market, not forgeting their capital and the tax they pay to lagos govt. About servant and master, your focus should be on how to build public toilets in your place so that your people will stop defecating in public.[ quote author=StOla post=47463772]Does the Igbo man manufacture anything in Lagos that is sold as export, thereby bringing money to the purse of Lagos State that wasn't in Lagos before? Answer is NO! The Igbo man is an economic refugee in Lagos. He needs the market that Lagos population provides so that he will sell his goods. The Igbo man needs me to buy his goods, and he will pay his taxes in return to the government of Lagos State. The Igbo man imports goods from China and India and collects the bulk of his money from the Lagos population to keep factory workers in China and India employed. How has this Igbo man brought money to develop Lagos? Instead he takes money from Lagos and makes it his own. Who should be grateful? Who needs Lagos? He has in no way generated any money for Lagos that wasn't resident in Lagos before. Now take the Igbo man away from Lagos. How will he survive? The demolished shops in Oshodi resulted to a lot of cries from the Igbo tenants while the Yoruba owners of the demolished shops moved on after the initial disappointment. The government had already given numerous notices to have the traders relocate. The Igbos who were just tenants couldn't move on and exclaimed, "how are we going to survive?". The irrelevant Ohaneze then declared the governor of Lagos State as an enemy of the Ndigbo, and gave the usual irrelevant ultimatum to have him revert his development strides in Lagos to accommodate the chaos associated with any Igbo grouping in Lagos. At no time did the affected Igbo traders consider even relocating to Biafran land to continue their trade. At no time did Ohaneze encourage the Igbo traders to come home and deprive Lagos of IGR for the benefit of Anambra or Ebonyi. Who can guess where those affected traders are now? They have either found another soon to be demolished market to survive in Lagos, or they have found their way to Sango-Otta, Ibadan, Akure, Ilorin, Abuja, Kaduna, Kano, or even Maiduguri, so as to survive. Why the vehement distaste for Igboland to continue their business at home with their fellow hardworking tribesmen who don't envy them? So who needs Lagos? So who is master and who is servant in Lagos? Who has ever heard a dispensable servant giving the master of the field ultimatums on how he organises his field? If the master does not want the servant, the servant goes. If the servant does not like the master, the servant still goes. If the master decides to redevelop his field, the servant must still go. Let the servant know his place, as the Master's place is already known.[/quote] |
Re: Reply To Can Igbos Survive Without Lagos? by StOla: 5:34pm On Jul 12, 2016 |
scorpio2013: If Igbos make up to 40% of Lagos, I reckon Yorubas are just 30% of the population since we have to also accommodate all the other ethnic groups in Nigeria in this statistics by imagination? If Igbos are that critical to Lagos, why not leave and punish the wicked and ungrateful Yorubas by so doing? As I have stated elsewhere, it is the curse of the immigrant to always think he is doing his host society some favour, even if he migrated using illegal paperwork, or sold all his assets to raise the fees for his relocation. The Igbos are no different, so I do not begrudge them for this attitude of self importance. However, whatever contribution any immigrant ethnic grouping thinks it contributes to the host society, that service is waiting to be rendered by the next wave of immigrants waiting to fill the vacuum left by the former. As long as Lagos is still geographical located as it is and the society remains relatively peaceful, it will always attract the attention and capital of true investors, not people hoping to come sell foreign and Aba goods in Lagos to take money from Lagos residents. How exactly does importation done by Igbos to sell foreign made goods or Aba goods to Lagos customers translate to them bringing in money already resident in the hand of Lagosians? How does Lagos develop when funds are transferred to a factory in China, India or Aba whenever goods are sold in Lagos? The wealth resident in Lagos is only redistributed with the Igbo man as one of the beneficiaries, who in turn must pay tax to the government of that society where he has made his money. He has only brought his goods to Lagos and gets my money in return. He needs to play in the Lagos market, the Lagos market has enough merchants waiting for their own opportunity. He is the one at the mercy of Lagos. He goes, he suffers, some other competitor fill the void. The dynamics of Lagos ensures no one can hold it to ransome, excepts its own people decide to self destruct their society like the Niger Delta has mastered to perfection. When the Igbo man brings a large scale industry to Lagos like Dangote, that would see funds from other parts of Nigeria and the rest of the world, transferred back to Lagos in terms of purchases made for goods and services manufactured in Lagos, employing Nigerians resident in Lagos and all paying their taxes to Lagos, then I would hold the Igbo man in high regard. For now, let the Igbo merchant continue importing foreign goods and making his money from Lagos residents while he still can, with much gratitude and appreciation to me the customer, who is king. 5 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Reply To Can Igbos Survive Without Lagos? by ba7man(m): 5:40pm On Jul 12, 2016 |
I remember growing up in Lagos before the influx of Igbo migrants. There was a lot of sanity back then. Computer village was a gated estate. Lagos island had lots of Brazilian style bungalows. Festac town had parks, walkways, gardens etc. Compare it to the pollution, overcrowding and chaos we're experiencing today. Their influx has resulted in a lot of environmental degradation in the State. 4 Likes |
Re: Reply To Can Igbos Survive Without Lagos? by 33xtr33r: 5:40pm On Jul 12, 2016 |
T8ksy: Stop being clever by half and diverting attention from the very obvious... "For Lagos State, more than 70% of the manufacturing concerns and major industries in the State are owned by the Igbos. If the Igbos were to stop paying tax in Lagos State, the IGR of Lagos State will reduce by over 60%. In contrast, Sir, go to the South East and look at the manufacturing concerns in Onitsha, Aba and Nnewi. Please don't forget those were areas ravaged by civil war a mere forty something years ago. The Igbos have certainly made tremendous progress but the Yoruba nation has regressed. I wish to state that this letter is not meant to whip up primordial considerations or ethnic sentiments but just to put things in proper perspective." - Maj. Gen Adebayo Adeyinka (rtd.) https://www.nairaland.com/3173893/open-letter-asiwaju-bola-ahmed-tinubu
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Re: Reply To Can Igbos Survive Without Lagos? by Kayode1979: 5:53pm On Jul 12, 2016 |
Never |
Re: Reply To Can Igbos Survive Without Lagos? by Kayode1979: 5:55pm On Jul 12, 2016 |
Never.....but Igbos and Yoruba's be like
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Re: Reply To Can Igbos Survive Without Lagos? by Perceptor(m): 5:57pm On Jul 12, 2016 |
temptnow:It's good thing dat an igbo claim to belong to lagos which is a yoruba state, it's pathetic that nobody frm other tribe can claim to belong to any igbo state because there is nothing there to be proud of. 2 Likes |
Re: Reply To Can Igbos Survive Without Lagos? by Perceptor(m): 6:02pm On Jul 12, 2016 |
Yorubas CANNOT stand alone without igbos(unproven); igbos ARE NOT standing alone without yorubas (PROVEN) 2 Likes |
Re: Reply To Can Igbos Survive Without Lagos? by 33xtr33r: 6:09pm On Jul 12, 2016 |
Perceptor: And yet at the mere hearing of Biaf... or NK cold shiver travel down Yoruba spines, causing you lots to convulse terribly and helplessly... |
Re: Reply To Can Igbos Survive Without Lagos? by Perceptor(m): 8:53pm On Jul 12, 2016 |
33xtr33r:blah blah blah...dey dia dey deceive urself, because u see dem discussin biafra wt u on nairaland? u shld knw dat yorubas can adapt to any situation, they dont giv a rat ass on wether u escape or not. You all shld migrate from lagos to ur land first and see what will happen to the yorubas 1 Like |
Re: Reply To Can Igbos Survive Without Lagos? by temptnow: 9:09pm On Jul 12, 2016 |
Perceptor:we made it what it is today. So we own it period |
Re: Reply To Can Igbos Survive Without Lagos? by scorpio2013: 9:23pm On Jul 12, 2016 |
The statistics is from your govt, go to google. And findout. Where were you when fashola conducted census in lagos. Look, a significant amount of your igr comes from Igbo businesses.o StOla: |
Re: Reply To Can Igbos Survive Without Lagos? by 33xtr33r: 10:26pm On Jul 12, 2016 |
Perceptor: 'Yorubas can adapt to any situation' indeed and yet you lots shamelessly earn a living on pay-per-post basis attempting in vain to quench the call for self-determination by the Igbos. Keep on deceiving yourselves in your hypocrisy and great delusion... It's this fraudulent union that gave you Yoruba bigots the effrontery to rant carelessly and senselessly against Igbos. BTW, is Lagos your father's property? Can a Yoruba man who lazy around in Alayeism fend for someone who fares better than he? I don't blame many Yorubas who lay claim to Lagos since Yoruba enclaves of Oshogbo, Ilesha, Saki, Kisi, Ibarapa, Oye-ekiti are juju-infested. Igbos travel to Lagos to take advantage of Yoruba visionlessness, docility and gross ineptitude. The same reason the Chinese, Lebanese, Indians, Americans and Italians troop to Lagos to create opportunities and conquer the land. If you can't bear it no more go back to your juju-infested enclave and leave Igbos out of your miseries. 1 Like |
Re: Reply To Can Igbos Survive Without Lagos? by Perceptor(m): 5:27am On Jul 13, 2016 |
temptnow:what have u made wt ur igbo land? |
Re: Reply To Can Igbos Survive Without Lagos? by Perceptor(m): 5:47am On Jul 13, 2016 |
33xtr33r:You pple no go kee person wt lafta o...so u admit d fact dat there is no such opportunity in igbo land, that's good. The chinese, americans etc troop to Lagos, why not any SE state? They call all horned animals and d snail shows up; so for mind now u ar in thesame category wt d chinese bah? The American and Chinese may av come to explore opportunities, go to igbo land and u'll knw dat they av to come lagos seeking greener pasture. For ur other aggitation, what's ur bizness wt dat if d everybody in d SW decides to migrate to lagos, na ur igbo state? Those juju infested enclaves u see were build wen u pple were still living in huts. Earnin a living on pay per cost basis is a form of adaptation, leave SW first and see em employ other form of adaptation. |
Re: Reply To Can Igbos Survive Without Lagos? by 33xtr33r: 7:50am On Jul 13, 2016 |
Perceptor: If you still feel that Lagos is your father's consider venturing into the streets to prove your rants. "By the time the Europeans came, even the Yoruba people, did not even learn how to live with each other, they were fighting and all over the north, they were fighting everywhere, there were tribal wars." I just remember only recently the Yoruba leaders said they want to break, break from where. The Yoruba are probably the people who economically enjoy Nigeria more than anybody, economically. So why are they going?" - Mallam Adamu Ciroma
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