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Re: Women Aren't Getting The Promotion Because They Don't Want It - Bloomberg by Nobody: 6:50pm On Jul 14, 2016 |
crackhaus: This is a point I can go with. Many women lack confidence in themselves and instead of changing it, they complain. It may not be smooth sailing all through, but is it ever that easy for anyone - male or female? It's very easy for me. |
Re: Women Aren't Getting The Promotion Because They Don't Want It - Bloomberg by crackhaus: 7:14pm On Jul 14, 2016 |
Mindfulness:They have, but are you now going to pretend you're not aware that the chasm in racial divide is much more pronounced compared to that between genders? But they are naturally less inclined and environment has nothing to do with it, aight?And you have taken us back to my first post. Now that the environment is conducive in such places as the US, UK, and other regions listed by Tim, what then is stopping the women there? The answer to your question is already in the question. 2 Likes |
Re: Women Aren't Getting The Promotion Because They Don't Want It - Bloomberg by crackhaus: 7:18pm On Jul 14, 2016 |
Mindfulness:Refer to my post above. You will not be honest with yourself if you claim not to know that the racial divisions still plague those societies. Unless you're now of the opinion that there's still gender discrimination in developed countries? Is this your point? In fact I dare you to type it, so we can all know that Africa isn't the only place where women are still subdued. 2 Likes |
Re: Women Aren't Getting The Promotion Because They Don't Want It - Bloomberg by Nobody: 7:20pm On Jul 14, 2016 |
crackhaus: So if the answer is not the way you want it, I pretend? And you have taken us back to my first post. My answer remains the same, it's partly nature and it's partly nurture. And even in places where gender discrimination has been outlawed, it's the same as with racism, certain stereotypes and roles still prevail. |
Re: Women Aren't Getting The Promotion Because They Don't Want It - Bloomberg by crackhaus: 7:21pm On Jul 14, 2016 |
Mindfulness:It's a man's world because even you with all your razzmatazz and preaching of self-love will not feel complete if you have to go to bed and wake up with no man by your side, by the time you're 35years old. 4 Likes |
Re: Women Aren't Getting The Promotion Because They Don't Want It - Bloomberg by crackhaus: 7:24pm On Jul 14, 2016 |
Mindfulness:Is it the stereotypes that is stopping women from aspiring to become CEOs and board members, or is it the demands of such positions that discourage them? You seem to be changing goalposts. 2 Likes |
Re: Women Aren't Getting The Promotion Because They Don't Want It - Bloomberg by Nobody: 7:27pm On Jul 14, 2016 |
crackhaus: I remember one poster from Britain here who claimed that there are no racial barriers in the UK. It's a matter of subjective experience and perception and thus opinion. Whether I am honest or dishonest, opinions are divided on this subject. Unless you're now of the opinion that there's still gender discrimination in developed countries? Is this your point? Personally, I don't feel discriminated at all in Europe. I have never seen my se.x as an obstacle. It's partly due to the way I was brought up by my father for sure but it would be a lie to say that people are no longer conditioned to perceive and accept certain gender roles. However, I am not saying that it is the result of social conditioning entirely. The fact that women bring children to this world has a natural impact too. In fact I dare you to type it, so we can all know that Africa isn't the only place where women are still subdued. Of course not but I never come across so much hostility against women as on NL. What we also have to consider is that Nigeria is much more religious than other European countries and we all know what gender roles are prescribed by world religions. It's starts with Adam and Eve. She is the one who was created in the second place to serve him but this bitch took him out of paradise. |
Re: Women Aren't Getting The Promotion Because They Don't Want It - Bloomberg by Nobody: 7:30pm On Jul 14, 2016 |
crackhaus: I believed this fairy tale when I was in my 20s. In my 30s I realized that many women - especially in this part in the world - prefer to have lose relationships with a man or men leaving before it's time for breakfast. 1 Like |
Re: Women Aren't Getting The Promotion Because They Don't Want It - Bloomberg by Nobody: 7:31pm On Jul 14, 2016 |
crackhaus: It's a combination of different factors. You are too intelligent to buy one-dimensional explanations to complex human behavior and psyche, I assume. |
Re: Women Aren't Getting The Promotion Because They Don't Want It - Bloomberg by crackhaus: 7:32pm On Jul 14, 2016 |
Mindfulness:If it's that easy for you, then I guess you were born with a silver spoon and are on your way to becoming the CEO of your daddy's big company....assuming However, I hope your daddy's big company is in Nigeria cos if it's in Germany, you might not even make it into the Board of Directors. 3 Likes |
Re: Women Aren't Getting The Promotion Because They Don't Want It - Bloomberg by Nobody: 7:35pm On Jul 14, 2016 |
crackhaus: Is it a tactic to find out what I or my family do for a living? I know you are a curious cat. |
Re: Women Aren't Getting The Promotion Because They Don't Want It - Bloomberg by PresVA: 7:35pm On Jul 14, 2016 |
Raising a family hinders or slows a lot of women from reaching their desired height (when due)... especially ones so passionate about their marriage/family. . Most women are quite selective about what jobs/occupations/positions they take up just so that their families don't suffer.. But men are a lot more flexible. . Men can leave their families for weeks/months in pursuit of career but women rarely do this without worrying about what's going on back home So, it's not like the women don't want to get the top; difficulty in balancing life and career makes it hard... men on the other hand have more time to spare as regards career hence we have more of them at the top... |
Re: Women Aren't Getting The Promotion Because They Don't Want It - Bloomberg by crackhaus: 7:35pm On Jul 14, 2016 |
Mindfulness:Which is why they only look happy on the surface and have become strong advocates of self-love...why won't they be preaching self-love when no man is around to shower them with it. Fairy tale ni, fish tail ko... 4 Likes |
Re: Women Aren't Getting The Promotion Because They Don't Want It - Bloomberg by Nobody: 7:36pm On Jul 14, 2016 |
PresVA: TRUE! 1 Like |
Re: Women Aren't Getting The Promotion Because They Don't Want It - Bloomberg by Nobody: 7:37pm On Jul 14, 2016 |
crackhaus: Yeah, and that's why most divorces are initiated by women ... because they are scared of loneliness. |
Re: Women Aren't Getting The Promotion Because They Don't Want It - Bloomberg by Nobody: 8:00pm On Jul 14, 2016 |
PresVA: Well, it also hinders and slows men's careers too, though, it could be a catalyst for career advancement as he'll work harder. Furthermore, the difference between husbands and wives in the work force is needs versus wants. Most men because they need to, most women work because they want to. Yes, there are women who work out of need but only because their husbands cannot afford them a decent lifestyle or that lifestyle they desire. If a woman works not because of need but desire, it would make sense to take a less-demanding job. It is the height of vanity for a woman to work a job that deprives her quality home time just because she "went to school". Did you go to school to slave at a job brainlessly or to increase your opportunity for better living? There's a reason why married men are the most dependable employees. Most men work jobs they hate because the alternative is a drop in living standards and even hunger. That women have to sacrifice their dreams to run their homes is not oppression, or discrimination or man's-worldism. It is common sense and pragmatism. The dreams of billions of men died the day they had families. It cuts both ways. Unless a man is unhappy in his home and marriage, I doubt he would choose having a job that takes him away from home and one that affords him quality time with family. The difference in how men handle their roles in life and how women handle theirs is acceptance of fate. We have resigned ourselves to our provisioning role. That is what we do. You, women need to accept yours. As my posts on Page1 illustrate, women in Sweden do the barest minimum when the basics are covered. Na so life be. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Women Aren't Getting The Promotion Because They Don't Want It - Bloomberg by crackhaus: 8:00pm On Jul 14, 2016 |
Mindfulness:Racial discrimination isn't as pronounced in the UK when compared to other European countries and the US...but it's there on an institutional level. Personally, I don't feel discriminated at all in Europe. I have never seen my se.x as an obstacle. It's partly due to the way I was brought up by my father for sure but it would be a lie to say that people are no longer conditioned to perceive and accept certain gender roles. However, I am not saying that it is the result of social conditioning entirely. The fact that women bring children to this world has a natural impact too.Are you going to tell me that you can visit every single city in Germany and not find one where you won't feel some racial discrimination? Don't lie oo.. Of course not but I never come across so much hostility against women as on NL.Lol, you're not being honest. How many other forums do you actively visit? What you call hostility against women on NL is just people speaking their minds but unfortunately, some Nigerian girls/women have developed this princess mentality that makes them feel it's their right to be respected by anonymous men for doing absolutely nothing to earn it. It's all fun and games till you people start to take it personal due to your fragile feelings..and besides, it's the internet. Nigerian dudes love Nigerian women...some might have just finished making love to two, and then went online to become 'hostile' to women as you put it. 2 Likes |
Re: Women Aren't Getting The Promotion Because They Don't Want It - Bloomberg by crackhaus: 8:06pm On Jul 14, 2016 |
Mindfulness:No tactics, that post was tongue-in-cheek. Obviously, you're not the CEO of any company neither are you a billionaire...so I guess it's not so easy afterall. |
Re: Women Aren't Getting The Promotion Because They Don't Want It - Bloomberg by Nobody: 8:15pm On Jul 14, 2016 |
crackhaus: It's not as pronounced and yet Blacks are underrepresented in different fields in these countries, what stops them? After all racial discrimination has been outlawed just like gender discrimination. Anyway dear, you got the point, I am sure. I don't want to dig further into it because it's an ugly topic if one argues that a certain group of people is naturally less inclined to be successful and wealthy. Are you going to tell me that you can visit every single city in Germany and not find one where you won't feel some racial discrimination? I can visit any city in Europe, be it Berlin, Athens, Madrid or Prague and people will think I am fabulous. Lol, you're not being honest. It's how you choose to see it. It's all fun and games till you people start to take it personal due to your fragile feelings..and besides it's the internet. I have seen many men hyperventilate here too. Nigerian dudes love Nigerian women...some might have just finished making love to two, and then went online to become 'hostile' to women as you put it. So you have to be gay to treat women in an unfair and degrading way? |
Re: Women Aren't Getting The Promotion Because They Don't Want It - Bloomberg by Nobody: 8:17pm On Jul 14, 2016 |
crackhaus: Who knows? |
Re: Women Aren't Getting The Promotion Because They Don't Want It - Bloomberg by crackhaus: 8:21pm On Jul 14, 2016 |
Mindfulness:Because they know they will get spousal support and will finally start fvcking another man, daz why. At the end of the day, there will always be a man in the equation for you lots, whether he is being subtracted via divorce or being added via dating anew. 3 Likes |
Re: Women Aren't Getting The Promotion Because They Don't Want It - Bloomberg by Nobody: 8:28pm On Jul 14, 2016 |
crackhaus: So women do not end up lonely and sad after all even when they divorce in their 30s and even more frequently in their 40s? At the end of the day, there will always be a man in the equation for you lots, whether he is being subtracted via divorce or being added via dating anew. So all the 'be careful you don't end up bitter and lonely once you turn 35 because nobody will want you' was a lie? Now there will always be a man? And to think that we started getting used to the scenario. All for nothing. |
Re: Women Aren't Getting The Promotion Because They Don't Want It - Bloomberg by crackhaus: 8:37pm On Jul 14, 2016 |
Mindfulness:It's not as sexist as you make it sound. I'm sure you also got my point too, so we squared. Is anyone else surprised she just mentioned cities that have a substantial population of immigrants? Let's not go too far... I said in your own Germany, can you confidently visit every single city and not feel racial discrimination in some? You will be surprised at how many people on NL share that same opinion. Yea, and then we get over it. However, you and Sam.barry seem to be the only females in this section that can take a hit today and get over it by the next day. No, not my point - my point was, it isn't as bad as you paint it. Your so-called hostility against women hasn't stopped guys from speaking beautiful nothings into the ears of the random women they meet face to face daily. And when you say "treat women in an unfair and degrading way," that's exactly what I mean by the princess mentality. You come on the internet and expect everyone to treat you nice? Because you are who and what? 4 Likes |
Re: Women Aren't Getting The Promotion Because They Don't Want It - Bloomberg by crackhaus: 8:41pm On Jul 14, 2016 |
Mindfulness:Only one thing I want to know. Are you Igbo, Yoruba, Hausa, or any one of the other numerous ethnicities? |
Re: Women Aren't Getting The Promotion Because They Don't Want It - Bloomberg by crackhaus: 8:49pm On Jul 14, 2016 |
Mindfulness:Lol, nor be if dem see man wey go marry their old azzes by the time they're 40? 2 Likes |
Re: Women Aren't Getting The Promotion Because They Don't Want It - Bloomberg by Nobody: 8:53pm On Jul 14, 2016 |
crackhaus: I did. Is anyone else surprised she just mentioned cities that have a substantial population of immigrants? Can I visit all cities in Nigeria without facing 'racial discrimination' as someone who looks different? You will be surprised at how many people on NL share that same opinion. Trust, I won't. Yea, and then we get over it. Well, .... no! Getting over it would me approaching a poster without any past baggage and we both know that this NOT what people - men and women - do here. People attack people here on personal levels all the time. They wouldn't if they got over it. However, you and Sam.barry seem to be the only females in this section that can take a hit today and get over it by the next day. No comment. No, not my point - my point was, it isn't as bad as you paint it. Of course not and for altruistic reasons. And when you say "treat women in an unfair and degrading way," that's exactly what I mean by the princess mentality. Good to know but I am past the age of princes and princesses. You come on the internet and expect everyone to treat you nice? I expect anything here. |
Re: Women Aren't Getting The Promotion Because They Don't Want It - Bloomberg by Nobody: 8:56pm On Jul 14, 2016 |
crackhaus: What a tragedy! |
Re: Women Aren't Getting The Promotion Because They Don't Want It - Bloomberg by crackhaus: 9:10pm On Jul 14, 2016 |
Mindfulness:You're kidding right? Racial discrimination in Nigeria? You've still not answered the question though. Seen |
Re: Women Aren't Getting The Promotion Because They Don't Want It - Bloomberg by Nobody: 7:40am On Jul 15, 2016 |
crackhaus: I have and I got the point you were making. |
Re: Women Aren't Getting The Promotion Because They Don't Want It - Bloomberg by crackhaus: 3:51pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
Mindfulness:Yes you have...in your usual coy tail-tucked-between-legs kinda way. I was however hoping for an outright admission, on the off-chance that you'll be bold enough for once to give an answer which discredits your initial stance. |
Re: Women Aren't Getting The Promotion Because They Don't Want It - Bloomberg by Nobody: 6:33pm On Jul 17, 2016 |
crackhaus: My initial stance was comprehensive and logical and I stand by it. You are a dreamer. |
Re: Women Aren't Getting The Promotion Because They Don't Want It - Bloomberg by crackhaus: 7:42pm On Jul 17, 2016 |
Mindfulness:You're certifiable. |
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