Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by Kainene77: 10:39pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
RABIUSHILE04:
Ur analysis dey misplaced, and it shows how shallow ur mind/thinking is?! How can u use a Quran to. Eat popcorn, or draw an image of Muhammad when u know the people practicing the religion won't like it? u dey intentionally look fopr trouble be dat now!! Also Islam defends its religion, and naso christians no dey defend dem religion...na Christian like u dey attends the "Nights Of A Thousand Laughs" where various comedians like Akpors, Basket mouth, Gordons etc, perfoms. And for those familiar with their jokes and comedies, the Church and the pastors and even Jesus Peace be on him...are usually the play toy and target (of course they know the backlash if they should involve Islaam). They joke to blackmail Jesus, while the audience laugh uncontrollably.All this in the name of, "You can't fight for God".?!? May God guide u aright guy! How can anyone blackmail Jesus? And why would GOD THE ALMIGHTY ,who created this world, the entire universe and all species, need you, a mortal, to fight for him? This is why people think that religion and logical reasoning are mutually exclusive. 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by Nobody: 10:40pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
crusadistic:
I don't think there would be any church in proximity to Muslims if its so. But really is there any? Going down this road isn't my thing but it irks me when people try to shy away from the obvious truth, 2 Likes |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by Girl360(f): 10:42pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
delerx: It all started from the old testaments,wars BTW Israelites and Co and that's how it's gonna be till we have a new earth nd Heaven. How sad. |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by LabiaDestroyer(m): 10:42pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
Islam teaches violence
Quran (9 : 29) – “Fight those who believe not in Allah nor
the Last Day , nor hold that forbidden which hath been
forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor
acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of
the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with
willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.”
Quran (9 : 38-39) – “O ye who believe! what is the
matter with you , that , when ye are asked to go forth in
the cause of Allah , ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye
prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter ? But little
is the comfort of this life , as compared with the
Hereafter. Unless ye go forth , He will punish you with a
grievous penalty, and put others in your place .” This is
a warning to those who refuse to fight , that they will
be punished with Hell .
Quran (9 : 41) – “Go forth , light -armed and heavy -armed,
and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of
Allah! That is best for you if ye but knew.” 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by Nobody: 10:43pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
Bolustic: Germany, France and other countries opening up their doors for refugees and tolerating Islam haven't seen anything, dem just start, if there's is peace in a country, it's because Islam isn't yet there. Netherlands is the next place.
These are the reasons Donald Trump is being Islamophobic but people are pretending in the name of Liberalism, in the end we shall see he's right afterall.
Forget the current economic hardship BREXIT is gonna inflict on Britons, I'll tell you those who voted for the leave on the basis of immigration are far sighted. I thought Netherlands kicked against Islam some time ago, hmm well no worries, that is why I love Japan, only country in the world without Muslims, go figure. Happy Sweden is buckling up on Islam, let them go back to Saudi Arabia and bomb all the mosques there. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by Girl360(f): 10:45pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
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Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by Nobody: 10:47pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
surawilly: what is the meaning of Allah? and what's the meaning of God the pre-Arabic word for God is Ilah, while Allah means "the god" Prophet Muhammed father's was an idol worshipper, his name was actually Abdullah (meaning servant of Allah) 6 Likes |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by ManTiger(m): 10:47pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
falopey:
Which follower dem wan be before? Followers of Jesus or Buddha?
Hope you have kept abreast of all the terrorist attacks in Europe since the last two weeks now? From the attacks using a truck to run people over in France to the train attack by an Afghan asylum seeker in Germany to this one that just happened today in Munich?
All of these attacks were from your brothers, the followers of allah and Mohammed of the religion of piss. Lol |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by ManTiger(m): 10:49pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
horlabode:
the pre-Arabic word for God is Ilah, while Allah means "the god" Prophet Muhammed father's was an idol worshipper, his name was actually Abdullah (meaning servant of Allah) Hmmm, I see an atom of truth. An umah will never call himself a child of God but rather his servant. 3 Likes |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by macjireh: 10:52pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
TERRORISTS AT IT AGAIN,DS TIME ITS GERMANY,,,,,ITS HIGH TIME THEY BANNED D RELIGION OF PISS...ITS DOING US MORE HARM THAN GOOD....IF CHRISTIANS WERE D ONES DISPLAYING SLIGHT INHUMANITY,,,, THEY WOULD HAVE CALLED 4 EXTERMINATION OF CHRISTIANS........
FOOLISH ADOLPH HITLER COULDN'T SEE THAT D PISSFUL ONES WERE SUPPOSED TO BE CLEANSED OUT RATHER HE FOCUSED ON D JEWS......
WELL I DON'T BLAME ANYONE ITS ABRAHAM I BLAME, D SAME PLACE BLESSING COMES FROM ALSO BRINGS D CURSE 2 Likes |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by Nobody: 10:53pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
Kainene77:
How can anyone blackmail Jesus? And why would GOD THE ALMIGHTY ,who created this world, the entire universe and all species, need you, a mortal, to fight for him?
This is why people think that religion and logical reasoning are mutually exclusive.
Like make jest of ur 'god' ah bros jay, bla bla bla... Jesus is but a prophet of God. u don't read ur bible guy!!!! 1 Like 1 Share |
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Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by yeni2015(m): 10:56pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
Bolustic: I can bet with my remaining 4 months NYSC allowance that the attackers are from the RELIGION OF PEACE.
Islam is an hostile religion. I serve here in Sokoto, the seat of the caliphate and it's what I see everyday. My brother, I feel you because I also served in Mabera in sokoto in 2008, even our NCCF bus was burnt. The attackers will always be from the Religion that promise attackers Ten virgins 4 Likes |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by YongChi: 10:58pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
The media has fooled you all, recent attacks in Europe have not been claimed by any terrorist organization, yet these countries are labeling like bread sellers, this is another hoax like 9/11 attacks. Very soon these superpowers will want to retaliate and kill thousands like the US is in Afghanistan 1 Like |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by AlBillal: 10:58pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
Its sad how you guys are so ignorant of the fact that these killers aint Muslims and its rather unfortunate that most Christians on this platform find joy in calling Islam and Allah all sorts without having the slightest knowledge of what Islam stands for.. I'll advice that you refrain from condenming that which you do not understand..for the ignorant ones here, i'd also like to say that Christianity has a long history of violence and at some point it was rated the world's most violent religion...sure some people here know about the CRUSADES, THE WITCH HUNTING, THE POST MEDIEVAL PERIOD, DEMOCIDE (14million people were killed by europeans roman catholicism) and a whole lot more... There are numerous verses in the Bible that support killing for various reasons castigating all Muslims and saying all sorts about Islam cos of the actions of a few unbelievers claiming to be True Muslims is rather Wrong and unacceptable.. I am a Muslim, and i've never for once insulted christianity... 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by wyse24(m): 10:59pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
LabiaDestroyer:
why lieth thee ye moslem?
Your propheth Mohammad preached violence
Tabari 9: 69 “Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us”
The words of Muhammad , prophet of Islam .
Ibn Ishaq : 327 – “Allah said , ‘ A prophet must slaughter
before collecting captives . A slaughtered enemy is
driven from the land . Muhammad , you craved the
desires of this world , its goods and the ransom
captives would bring . But Allah desires killing them to
manifest the religion .’”
Ibn Ishaq : 990 – Lest anyone think that cutting off
someone’ s head while screaming ‘ Allah Akbar!’ is a
modern custom, here is an account of that very
practice under Muhammad , who seems to approve .
Ibn Ishaq : 992 – “Fight everyone in the way of Allah
and kill those who disbelieve in Allah.” Muhammad ’ s
instructions to his men prior to a military raid .
The Quran :
Quran (2 : 191-193 ) – “ And slay them wherever ye find
them, and drive them out of the places whence they
drove you out , for persecution [of Muslims ] is worse
than slaughter [of non -believers ]… but if desist , then lo!
Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until
persecution is no more , and religion is for Allah .”
There is a good case to be made that the textual
context of this particular passage is defensive war ,
even if the historical context was not . However , there
are also two worrisome pieces to this verse . The first
is that the killing of others is authorized in the event of
“persecution ” ( a qualification that is ambiguous at
best) . The second is that fighting may persist until
“religion is for Allah. ” The example set by Muhammad
is not reassuring.
Quran (2 : 244) – “Then fight in the cause of Allah , and
know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things .”
Quran (2 : 216) – “Fighting is prescribed for you , and ye
dislike it . But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which
is good for you , and that ye love a thing which is bad
for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not .” Not only
does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous,
but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is
intended only in self-defense , since the audience was
obviously not under attack at the time . From the
Hadith, we know that Muhammad was actually trying
to motivate his people into raiding caravans with this
verse.
Quran (3 : 56) – “As to those who reject faith , I will
punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the
Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help.”
Quran (3 : 151) – “Soon shall We cast terror into the
hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined
companions with Allah , for which He had sent no
authority” . This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it
also includes Christians , since they believe in the
Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be
‘ joining companions to Allah ’).
Quran (4 : 74) – “Let those fight in the way of Allah who
sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth
in the way of Allah , be he slain or be he victorious , on
him We shall bestow a vast reward.” The martyrs of
Islam are unlike the early Christians , led meekly to the
slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle , as they
attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause
of Allah. Here is the theological basis for today ’ s
suicide bombers .
Quran (4 : 76) – “Those who believe fight in the cause of
Allah…”
Quran (4 : 89) – “They but wish that ye should reject
Faith, as they do , and thus be on the same footing (as
they) : But take not friends from their ranks until they
flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden ) . But if
they turn renegades, seize them and slay them
wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no
friends or helpers from their ranks . ”
Quran (4 : 95) – “Not equal are those believers who sit
(at home ) and receive no hurt , and those who strive
and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and
their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to
those who strive and fight with their goods and
persons than to those who sit (at home ) . Unto all ( in
Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive
and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit
(at home ) by a special reward, - ” This passage
criticizes “peaceful ” Muslims who do not join in the
violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in
Allah’ s eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that
“Jihad ” doesn ’ t mean holy war in the Quran, but rather
a spiritual struggle. Not only is the Arabic word used in
this passage , but it is clearly not referring to anything
spiritual , since the physically disabled are given
exemption. ( The Hadith reveals the context of the
passage to be in response to a blind man’ s protest
that he is unable to engage in Jihad and this is
reflected in other translations of the verse) .
Quran (4 : 104) – “And be not weak hearted in pursuit of
the enemy ; if you suffer pain , then surely they ( too)
suffer pain as you suffer pain…” Is pursuing an injured
and retreating enemy really an act of self -defense?
Quran (5 : 33) – “The punishment of those who wage
war against Allah and His messenger and strive to
make mischief in the land is only this , that they should
be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet
should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be
imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this
world , and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous
chastisement ”
Quran (8 : 12) – “I will cast terror into the hearts of
those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads
and strike off every fingertip of them” No reasonable
person would interpret this to mean a spiritual
struggle.
Quran (8 : 15) – “O ye who believe! When ye meet those
who disbelieve in battle , turn not your backs to them.
(16) Whoso on that day turneth his back to them,
unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a
company , he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah , and
his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey ’ s end. ”
Quran (8 : 39) – “And fight with them until there is no
more persecution and religion should be only for Allah ”
From the historical context we know that the
“persecution ” spoken of here was simply the refusal by
the Meccans to allow Muhammad to enter their city
and perform the Haj . Other Muslims were able to travel
there, just not as an armed group , since Muhammad
declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction . The
Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion ,
since it was Muhammad ’ s intention to destroy their
idols and establish Islam by force ( which he later did ).
Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until
“religion is only for Allah .” According to Ibn Ishaq
(324) , Muhammad justified the violence further by
explaining that “ Allah must have no rivals.”
Quran (8 : 57) – “If thou comest on them in the war ,
deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are
behind them, that haply they may remember.”
Quran (8 : 59-60) – “And let not those who disbelieve
suppose that they can outstrip ( Allah ’ s Purpose ). Lo!
they cannot escape . Make ready for them all thou
canst of (armed ) force and of horses tethered , that
thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your
enemy.”
Quran (8 : 65) – “O Prophet , exhort the believers to
fight …”
Quran (9 : 5) – “ So when the sacred months have
passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find
them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie
in wait for them in every ambush , then if they repent
and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate , leave their
way free to them. ” According to this verse , the best
way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert
to Islam . Prayer (salat ) and the poor tax ( zakat) are
among the religions Five Pillars .
Quran (9 : 14) – “Fight them, Allah will punish them by
your hands and bring them to disgrace…”
Quran (9 : 20) – “Those who believe, and have left their
homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in
Allah’ s way are of much greater worth in Allah’ s sight .
These are they who are triumphant .” The “striving ”
spoken of here is Jihad .
Quran (9 : 29) – “Fight those who believe not in Allah nor
the Last Day , nor hold that forbidden which hath been
forbidden by Allah and His Messenger
(2:190) Fight in the way of Allah 200 against those who fight
against you but do not transgress, 201 for Allah does not love
transgressors.
200. The believers are asked to fight those who hindered their
efforts in the cause of God, and acted with hostility towards them
merely because they sought to fashion human life according to
the revealed guidance of God. Earlier, when they were weak and
scattered, the Muslims were asked merely to preach and be
patient with the wrongful repression meted out to them by their
opponents. However, now that a small city state had been
established in Madina they were commanded for the first time to
unsheathe their swords against those who had resorted to armed
hostility against their movement of reform. It was some time
after this injunction that the Battle of Badr took place, to be
followed by several other battles.
201. The believers are told that material interests should not be
the motivation for their fighting, that they should not take up
arms against those who were not in opposition to the true faith,
that they should not resort to unscrupulous methods or to the
indiscriminate killing and pillage which characterized the wars of
the pre-Islamic era, the Age of Ignorance. The excesses alluded
to in this verse are acts such as taking up arms against women
and children, the old and the injured, mutilation of the dead
bodies of the enemy, uncalled-for devastation through the
destruction of fields and livestock, and other similar acts of
injustice and brutality. In the Hadith all these acts have been
prohibited. The real intent of the verse is to stress that force
should be used only when its use is unavoidable, and only to the
extent that is absolutely necessary. |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by Juan73(m): 11:00pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
I can sense all these menace when Germany started opening their boarders to this islamic syrian asylum seekers in the name of aid,now they're trying to bite the fingers that fed'em. Anyway;am heading to China next week for the expansion/enlargeing my business for new ideals and fresh business strategies. May God Rest the soul of the dead!!! |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by wyse24(m): 11:01pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
LabiaDestroyer:
why lieth thee ye moslem?
Your propheth Mohammad preached violence
Tabari 9: 69 “Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us”
The words of Muhammad , prophet of Islam .
Ibn Ishaq : 327 – “Allah said , ‘ A prophet must slaughter
before collecting captives . A slaughtered enemy is
driven from the land . Muhammad , you craved the
desires of this world , its goods and the ransom
captives would bring . But Allah desires killing them to
manifest the religion .’”
Ibn Ishaq : 990 – Lest anyone think that cutting off
someone’ s head while screaming ‘ Allah Akbar!’ is a
modern custom, here is an account of that very
practice under Muhammad , who seems to approve .
Ibn Ishaq : 992 – “Fight everyone in the way of Allah
and kill those who disbelieve in Allah.” Muhammad ’ s
instructions to his men prior to a military raid .
The Quran :
Quran (2 : 191-193 ) – “ And slay them wherever ye find
them, and drive them out of the places whence they
drove you out , for persecution [of Muslims ] is worse
than slaughter [of non -believers ]… but if desist , then lo!
Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until
persecution is no more , and religion is for Allah .”
There is a good case to be made that the textual
context of this particular passage is defensive war ,
even if the historical context was not . However , there
are also two worrisome pieces to this verse . The first
is that the killing of others is authorized in the event of
“persecution ” ( a qualification that is ambiguous at
best) . The second is that fighting may persist until
“religion is for Allah. ” The example set by Muhammad
is not reassuring.
Quran (2 : 244) – “Then fight in the cause of Allah , and
know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things .”
Quran (2 : 216) – “Fighting is prescribed for you , and ye
dislike it . But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which
is good for you , and that ye love a thing which is bad
for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not .” Not only
does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous,
but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is
intended only in self-defense , since the audience was
obviously not under attack at the time . From the
Hadith, we know that Muhammad was actually trying
to motivate his people into raiding caravans with this
verse.
Quran (3 : 56) – “As to those who reject faith , I will
punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the
Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help.”
Quran (3 : 151) – “Soon shall We cast terror into the
hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined
companions with Allah , for which He had sent no
authority” . This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it
also includes Christians , since they believe in the
Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be
‘ joining companions to Allah ’).
Quran (4 : 74) – “Let those fight in the way of Allah who
sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth
in the way of Allah , be he slain or be he victorious , on
him We shall bestow a vast reward.” The martyrs of
Islam are unlike the early Christians , led meekly to the
slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle , as they
attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause
of Allah. Here is the theological basis for today ’ s
suicide bombers .
Quran (4 : 76) – “Those who believe fight in the cause of
Allah…”
Quran (4 : 89) – “They but wish that ye should reject
Faith, as they do , and thus be on the same footing (as
they) : But take not friends from their ranks until they
flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden ) . But if
they turn renegades, seize them and slay them
wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no
friends or helpers from their ranks . ”
Quran (4 : 95) – “Not equal are those believers who sit
(at home ) and receive no hurt , and those who strive
and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and
their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to
those who strive and fight with their goods and
persons than to those who sit (at home ) . Unto all ( in
Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive
and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit
(at home ) by a special reward, - ” This passage
criticizes “peaceful ” Muslims who do not join in the
violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in
Allah’ s eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that
“Jihad ” doesn ’ t mean holy war in the Quran, but rather
a spiritual struggle. Not only is the Arabic word used in
this passage , but it is clearly not referring to anything
spiritual , since the physically disabled are given
exemption. ( The Hadith reveals the context of the
passage to be in response to a blind man’ s protest
that he is unable to engage in Jihad and this is
reflected in other translations of the verse) .
Quran (4 : 104) – “And be not weak hearted in pursuit of
the enemy ; if you suffer pain , then surely they ( too)
suffer pain as you suffer pain…” Is pursuing an injured
and retreating enemy really an act of self -defense?
Quran (5 : 33) – “The punishment of those who wage
war against Allah and His messenger and strive to
make mischief in the land is only this , that they should
be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet
should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be
imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this
world , and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous
chastisement ”
Quran (8 : 12) – “I will cast terror into the hearts of
those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads
and strike off every fingertip of them” No reasonable
person would interpret this to mean a spiritual
struggle.
Quran (8 : 15) – “O ye who believe! When ye meet those
who disbelieve in battle , turn not your backs to them.
(16) Whoso on that day turneth his back to them,
unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a
company , he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah , and
his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey ’ s end. ”
Quran (8 : 39) – “And fight with them until there is no
more persecution and religion should be only for Allah ”
From the historical context we know that the
“persecution ” spoken of here was simply the refusal by
the Meccans to allow Muhammad to enter their city
and perform the Haj . Other Muslims were able to travel
there, just not as an armed group , since Muhammad
declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction . The
Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion ,
since it was Muhammad ’ s intention to destroy their
idols and establish Islam by force ( which he later did ).
Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until
“religion is only for Allah .” According to Ibn Ishaq
(324) , Muhammad justified the violence further by
explaining that “ Allah must have no rivals.”
Quran (8 : 57) – “If thou comest on them in the war ,
deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are
behind them, that haply they may remember.”
Quran (8 : 59-60) – “And let not those who disbelieve
suppose that they can outstrip ( Allah ’ s Purpose ). Lo!
they cannot escape . Make ready for them all thou
canst of (armed ) force and of horses tethered , that
thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your
enemy.”
Quran (8 : 65) – “O Prophet , exhort the believers to
fight …”
Quran (9 : 5) – “ So when the sacred months have
passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find
them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie
in wait for them in every ambush , then if they repent
and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate , leave their
way free to them. ” According to this verse , the best
way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert
to Islam . Prayer (salat ) and the poor tax ( zakat) are
among the religions Five Pillars .
Quran (9 : 14) – “Fight them, Allah will punish them by
your hands and bring them to disgrace…”
Quran (9 : 20) – “Those who believe, and have left their
homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in
Allah’ s way are of much greater worth in Allah’ s sight .
These are they who are triumphant .” The “striving ”
spoken of here is Jihad .
Quran (9 : 29) – “Fight those who believe not in Allah nor
the Last Day , nor hold that forbidden which hath been
forbidden by Allah and His Messenger
(2:190) Fight in the way of Allah 200 against those who fight
against you but do not transgress, 201 for Allah does not love
transgressors.
200. The believers are asked to fight those who hindered their
efforts in the cause of God, and acted with hostility towards them
merely because they sought to fashion human life according to
the revealed guidance of God. Earlier, when they were weak and
scattered, the Muslims were asked merely to preach and be
patient with the wrongful repression meted out to them by their
opponents. However, now that a small city state had been
established in Madina they were commanded for the first time to
unsheathe their swords against those who had resorted to armed
hostility against their movement of reform. It was some time
after this injunction that the Battle of Badr took place, to be
followed by several other battles.
201. The believers are told that material interests should not be
the motivation for their fighting, that they should not take up
arms against those who were not in opposition to the true faith,
that they should not resort to unscrupulous methods or to the
indiscriminate killing and pillage which characterized the wars of
the pre-Islamic era, the Age of Ignorance. The excesses alluded
to in this verse are acts such as taking up arms against women
and children, the old and the injured, mutilation of the dead
bodies of the enemy, uncalled-for devastation through the
destruction of fields and livestock, and other similar acts of
injustice and brutality. In the Hadith all these acts have been
prohibited. The real intent of the verse is to stress that force
should be used only when its use is unavoidable, and only to the
extent that is absolutely necessary. |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by Horus(m): 11:03pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
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Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by Nobody: 11:05pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
Tenkobos: Some people are warning up to blame religion. wetin e go be b4? |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by wyse24(m): 11:06pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
2:191) Kill them whenever you confront them and drive them out from where they drove you out. (For though killing is sinful) wrongful persecution is even worse than killing. 202 Do not fight against them near the Holy Mosque unless they fight against you; but if they fight against you kill them, for that is the reward of such unbelievers. 202. Here the word fitnah is used in the sense of 'persecution'. It refers to a situation whereby either a person or a group is subjected to harassment and intimidation for having accepted, as true, a set of ideas contrary to those currently held, and for striving to effect reforms in the existing order of society by preaching what is good and condemning what is wrong. Such a situation must be changed, if need be, by the force of arms. Bloodshed is bad, but when one group of people imposes its ideology and forcibly prevents others from accepting the truth, then it becomes guilty of an even more serious crime. In such circumstances, it is perfectly legitimate to remove that oppressive group by the force of arms. ﻓَﺎِﻥِ ﺍﻧۡـﺘَﻬَﻮۡﺍ ﻓَﺎِﻥَّ ﺍﻟﻠّٰﻪَ ﻏَﻔُﻮۡﺭٌ ﺭَّﺣِﻴۡﻢٌ (2:192) Then if they desist, know well that Allah is Ever-Forgiving, Most Compassionate. 203 203. God, in whom the believers have faith, is forgiving and ready to pardon even the worst criminals and sinners after they have renounced their arrogant defiance towards Him. It is suggested that this attribute of God should be reflected in the behaviour of the believers as well. As the saying goes: 'Mould your morals according to the attributes of God.' Hence, Whenever the believers have to resort to armed conflict, they should do so not for the sake of quenching their thirst for vengeance but in the cause of God's religion. Their conflict with any group should last only as long as that group resists the cause of God. As soon as it gives up this resistance hostility should cease. ﻭَﻗٰﺘِﻠُﻮۡﻫُﻢۡ ﺣَﺘّٰﻰ ﻟَﺎ ﺗَﻜُﻮۡﻥَ ﻓِﺘۡﻨَﺔٌ ﻭَّﻳَﻜُﻮۡﻥَ ﺍﻟﺪِّﻳۡﻦُ ﻟِﻠّٰﻪِؕ ﻓَﺎِﻥِ ﺍﻧﺘَﻬَﻮۡﺍ ﻓَﻠَﺎ ﻋُﺪۡﻭَﺍﻥَ ﺍِﻟَّﺎ ﻋَﻠَﻰ ﺍﻟﻈّٰﻠِﻤِﻴۡﻦَ (2:193) Keep on fighting against them until mischief ends and the way prescribed by Allah prevails. 204 But if they desist, then know that hostility is directed only against the wrong-doers. 205 204. Here the term fitnah is used in a different sense from the one in which it was used above see( verse 191 ). It is evident from the context that fitnah refers here to the state of affairs wherein the object of obedience is someone other than God. Hence the purpose of a believer's fighting is that this fitnah should cease and obedience should be consecrated to God alone. An investigation of the usages of the word din (which occurs in this verse) reveals that the core of its meaning is obedience. In its technical usage, the word refers to that system of life which arises as a result of a person recognizing someone as his Lord and Sovereign and committing himself to following his commands and ordinances. This explanation of the word din makes it quite clear that when some human beings establish their godhead and absolute dominance over others, this state of affairs is one of fitnah. Islam seeks to put an end to this and replace it by a state of affairs in which people live in obedience to the laws of God alone. 205. What is meant here by 'desisting' is not the abandonment of unbelief and polytheism on the part of the unbelievers but rather their desistance from active hostility to the religion enjoined by God. The unbeliever, the polytheist, the atheist, has each been, empowered to hold on to his beliefs and to worship who and whatever he wishes. In order to deliver these people from their error, Muslims are required to counsel them and tell them where their good lies. But Muslims ought not to try to achieve this purpose by resorting to force. At the same time, these misguided people have no right to either enforce the false laws of their own contriving instead of the laws of God or to drive the people of God to bondage of others than God. In order to put an end to this fitnah, both persuasion and force be used, whenever and to the extent to which each of the two is needed, and a true believer will not rest until the unbelievers give up this fitnah. The statement that hostility is meant only against wrong-doers seems to imply that when the true system of life replaces the false one, ordinary people should be granted a general amnesty. At the same time, however, it would be justifiable to punish those who exceeded all limits in their hostility to the Truth, at the time when they held the reins of power. Yet in dealing with such people, it becomes the true believers, after they have one final victory, to adopt a general attitude of forgiveness and tolerance towards the vanquished rather than subject them to revenge for the wrongs they committed in the past. Those criminals whose records were exceptionally bad could, however, be punished. The Prophet (peace be on him), availed himself of this permission in respect of some notorious enemies whose hostility had exceeded all limits, even though pardon and forgiveness behoved none more than him. Thus 'Uqbah ibn Abi Mu'avt and Nadr b. Harith from among the captives of the Battle of Badr were put to death and when a general amnesty, was proclaimed after the conquest of Makka four out of seventeen persons were executed. (See Ibn Hisham, vol. 1, p. 644 and vol. 2, pp. 409 ff. - Ed.) These acts were based on the permission to put to the sword those who have been conspicuously ruthless in their hostility to Islam and the Muslims.
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Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by nikaleyot: 11:10pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
LabiaDestroyer:
why lieth thee ye moslem? Your propheth Mohammad preached violence
Tabari 9: 69 “Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us” The words of Muhammad , prophet of Islam . Ibn Ishaq : 327 – “Allah said , ‘ A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives . A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land . Muhammad , you craved the desires of this world , its goods and the ransom captives would bring . But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion .’” Ibn Ishaq : 990 – Lest anyone think that cutting off someone’ s head while screaming ‘ Allah Akbar!’ is a modern custom, here is an account of that very practice under Muhammad , who seems to approve . Ibn Ishaq : 992 – “Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah.” Muhammad ’ s instructions to his men prior to a military raid . The Quran : Quran (2 : 191-193 ) – “ And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out , for persecution [of Muslims ] is worse than slaughter [of non -believers ]… but if desist , then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until persecution is no more , and religion is for Allah .” There is a good case to be made that the textual context of this particular passage is defensive war , even if the historical context was not . However , there are also two worrisome pieces to this verse . The first is that the killing of others is authorized in the event of “persecution ” ( a qualification that is ambiguous at best) . The second is that fighting may persist until “religion is for Allah. ” The example set by Muhammad is not reassuring. Quran (2 : 244) – “Then fight in the cause of Allah , and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things .” Quran (2 : 216) – “Fighting is prescribed for you , and ye dislike it . But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you , and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not .” Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense , since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time . From the Hadith, we know that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding caravans with this verse. Quran (3 : 56) – “As to those who reject faith , I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help.” Quran (3 : 151) – “Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah , for which He had sent no authority” . This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians , since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be ‘ joining companions to Allah ’). Quran (4 : 74) – “Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah , be he slain or be he victorious , on him We shall bestow a vast reward.” The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians , led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle , as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. Here is the theological basis for today ’ s suicide bombers . Quran (4 : 76) – “Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…” Quran (4 : 89) – “They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do , and thus be on the same footing (as they) : But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden ) . But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks . ” Quran (4 : 95) – “Not equal are those believers who sit (at home ) and receive no hurt , and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home ) . Unto all ( in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home ) by a special reward, - ” This passage criticizes “peaceful ” Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah’ s eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that “Jihad ” doesn ’ t mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle. Not only is the Arabic word used in this passage , but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual , since the physically disabled are given exemption. ( The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man’ s protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad and this is reflected in other translations of the verse) . Quran (4 : 104) – “And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy ; if you suffer pain , then surely they ( too) suffer pain as you suffer pain…” Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self -defense? Quran (5 : 33) – “The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this , that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world , and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement ” Quran (8 : 12) – “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them” No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle. Quran (8 : 15) – “O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle , turn not your backs to them. (16) Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company , he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah , and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey ’ s end. ” Quran (8 : 39) – “And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah ” From the historical context we know that the “persecution ” spoken of here was simply the refusal by the Meccans to allow Muhammad to enter their city and perform the Haj . Other Muslims were able to travel there, just not as an armed group , since Muhammad declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction . The Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion , since it was Muhammad ’ s intention to destroy their idols and establish Islam by force ( which he later did ). Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until “religion is only for Allah .” According to Ibn Ishaq (324) , Muhammad justified the violence further by explaining that “ Allah must have no rivals.” Quran (8 : 57) – “If thou comest on them in the war , deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember.” Quran (8 : 59-60) – “And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip ( Allah ’ s Purpose ). Lo! they cannot escape . Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed ) force and of horses tethered , that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy.” Quran (8 : 65) – “O Prophet , exhort the believers to fight …” Quran (9 : 5) – “ So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush , then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate , leave their way free to them. ” According to this verse , the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert to Islam . Prayer (salat ) and the poor tax ( zakat) are among the religions Five Pillars . Quran (9 : 14) – “Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace…” Quran (9 : 20) – “Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah’ s way are of much greater worth in Allah’ s sight . These are they who are triumphant .” The “striving ” spoken of here is Jihad . Quran (9 : 29) – “Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day , nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger You mean there r no violent verses in the bible. Have you heard about the crusaders? The age of war has gone. We all need to strive for a violent free world. 1 Like |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by Sunofgod(m): 11:11pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
I very much suspect this one has nothing to do with muslims.......even though they'll be blamed. |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by macjireh: 11:14pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
TERRORISTS AT IT AGAIN,DS TIME ITS GERMANY,,,,,ITS HIGH TIME THEY BANNED D RELIGION OF PISS...ITS DOING US MORE HARM THAN GOOD....IF CHRISTIANS WERE D ONES DISPLAYING SLIGHT INHUMANITY,,,, THEY WOULD HAVE CALLED 4 EXTERMINATION OF CHRISTIANS........
FOOLISH ADOLPH HITLER COULDN'T SEE THAT D PISSFUL ONES WERE SUPPOSED TO BE CLEANSED OUT RATHER HE FOCUSED ON D JEWS..... WELL ABRAHAM IS D FATHER OF BOTH NATIONS, D SAME PERSON DAT D BLESSING CAME FROM ALSO BROUGHT D CURSE..... D SAME PLACE WHERE JESUS CAME FROM, LUCIFER ALSO CAME FROM..... I GIVE U DS DAY D LIFE AND DEATH, BLESSING AND CURSING....CHOOSE LIFE (JESUS) THAT U MIGHT LIVE- Deut 30:19 |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by wyse24(m): 11:15pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
Islam is portrayed as a religion of “terror” and “killing”, yet this is just one of the most widely held misconceptions about Islam. Allah Almighty states unambiguously in the Quran (what means): "Nor take life -- which Allah has made sacred -- except for just cause. And if anyone is slain wrongfully, we have given his heir authority (to demand retaliation or to forgive): but let him not exceed bounds in the matter of taking life, for he is helped (by the Law)." [Quran 17:33] Based on this verse, it is Islamically unlawful to murder anyone who is innocent of any crime. At this point, we would do well to remember the distinction between the Quran and Sunnah, and the Muslims. Only the Quran and Sunnah are guaranteed to be in accordance with what the Creator desires, whereas the Muslims may possibly deviate. Hence, if any Muslim kills an innocent person, that Muslim has committed a grave sin, and the action cannot be claimed to have been committed "in the name of Islam." It should be clear, then, that the oft-used term "Muslim terrorist" is almost an oxymoron: by killing innocent people, a Muslim is committing a grave sin, and Allah is Just. This phrase is offensive and demeaning of Islam, and it should be avoided. It is hoped that as the general level of public awareness and understanding of Islam increases, people will keep "terrorism" and "Islam" separate from each other, and not use them in the same phrase. Jihaad or Holy War? Another misunderstood Islamic concept is that the Creator has imposed `Jihaad' on us. The term "holy war" has come from the time of the Crusades, and originated in Europe as a rallying cry against the Muslims in Jerusalem. Jihaad is an Arabic word, meaning struggle, but in the context of many verses in the Quran, it carries the meaning of military struggle or war. Allah gradually introduced the obligation of military struggle to the Muslim community at the time of the Messenger . The first verse ever revealed in that connection is as follows, (which means): "Permission (to fight) is given to those upon whom war is made because they are oppressed, and most surely Allah is well able to assist them." [Quran 22: 39] This verse lays down the precondition for all wars in Islam: there must exist certain oppressive conditions on the people. The Creator unequivocally orders us to fight oppression and persecution, even at the expense of bloodshed as the following verse shows in which Allah Says (what means): "And fight in the cause of Allah with those who fight with you, and do not exceed the limits, surely Allah does not love those who exceed the limits. And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from where they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque (in Makkah) until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the reward of the unbelievers. But if they desist, then surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. And fight with them until there is no persecution, and religion should be only for Allah, but if they desist, then there should be no hostility except against the oppressors." [Quran 2:190-192] As one might imagine, the method of military struggle has been clearly and extensively defined in the Quran and Sunnah. Since this is a vast subject, we can simply summarize part of it by noting that it is unlawful to kill women, children, the sick, the old and the innocent. From the Sunnah, we find: Narrated 'Abdullaah, may Allah be pleased with him: "During some of the battles of the Prophet a woman was found killed. Allah's Apostle disapproved the killing of women and children." [Al-Bukhari] A related misconception about Jihaad is often propagated by Muslims who say that: "Jihaad is only for self-defense of physical borders." The Quran and Sunnah refute this notion categorically. As the verses cited above show, Jihaad is obligatory wherever there is injustice, and Muslims need not acknowledge imaginary lines around the earth when it comes to upholding this obligation. The Messenger of Allah has also commented on this extensively in the Sunnah. From the study of the Sunnah, we find: Narrated Abu Moosaa, may Allah be pleased with him: "A man came to the Prophet and asked: 'A man fights for war booty; another fights for fame and a third fights for showing off; which of them fights in Allah's Cause?' The Prophet said: "He who fights that Allah's Word (i.e. Islam) should be superior, fights in Allah's Cause." [Al-Bukhari] Hence, the Creator obligates us to fight wherever people are being deprived of freely hearing or practicing the Message of Allah, as contained in the Quran and Sunnah. Sayyid Qutb, a famous Muslim scholar eloquently discusses the notion of Jihaad and self-defense in his book Milestones: "If we insist on calling Islamic Jihaad a defensive movement, then we must change the meaning of the word `defense' and mean by it `defense of man' against all those elements which limit his freedom. These elements take the form of beliefs and concepts, |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by wyse24(m): 11:15pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
Judicial System of Islam: A third major area of misconceptions about Islam is that of the Islamic judicial system, which is considered unnecessarily harsh. This assumption is weak in two respects. First, it presupposes that human beings are more just and more merciful than the Creator, and therefore we can change the law. Second, it is often based on gross oversimplifications of Islamic law, such as saying: "all thieves get their hands cut off!" The Quran and Sunnah make it clear that the law of retaliation (or equality) governs us for murder and physical injury, but forgiveness is better as the following verses from the Quran show; Allah Says (what means): "The recompense for an injury is an injury equal thereto (in degree): but if a person forgives and makes reconciliation, his reward is due from Allah: for (Allah) loves not those who do wrong. But indeed if any do help and defend themselves after a wrong (done) to them, against such there is no cause of blame. The blame is only against those who oppress men and insolently transgress beyond bounds through the land, defying right and justice: for such there will be a grievous penalty. And whoever is patient and forgiving, these most surely are actions due to courage." [Quran 42:40-43] The Creator ordained the law of retaliation for us, knowing full well that we might question it. In many non-Muslim societies today, there are ongoing debates about the death penalty. In Islam, this discussion is moot: The Creator has decided the matter for us. He has however given us an interesting verse in the Quran, which advises to consider the matter carefully if we want to understand it; the verse says (which means): "And there is life for you in (the law of) retaliation, O people of understanding, that you may guard yourselves." [Quran 2:179] Most people are also unaware of the stringent conditions, which must be met for the law of retaliation to be applicable. The Sunnah is full of examples of the Messenger of Allah showing us when the law's preconditions were fulfilled. For example, a thief is only liable to lose his or her hand if the stolen item exceeds a certain value, and if it is proven that the item was taken from its normal resting place. Stealing food is not punishable by the loss of one's hand, and other items are exempt as well. This is just an example of how carefully the law is applied in Islam. Moreover, it must be clarified that penalties in Islam are meant to establish peace and security for the society. The Sword of Islam: Finally, another reason advanced for this prevalent misconception is that Islam `spread by the sword'. It should be clear by now that we must always distinguish between the Quran and Sunnah and the Muslims, when it comes to determining what the Creator has asked of us. Allah has stated clearly in the Quran (which means): "There is no compulsion in religion; truly the right way has become clearly distinct from error; therefore, whoever rejects Satan (and what he calls to) and believes in Allah, he indeed has laid hold on the firmest handhold, which shall not break off, and Allah is Hearing, Knowing." [Quran 2:256] Hence, it is impossible to accept Islam under duress. Even if misguided Muslims were to try to `force' Islam somehow on others, based on the previous verse, it would not be accepted by the Creator. Historical arguments that try to demonstrate that Muslims did not `convert others by force' are actually secondary to the argument given above. However, it is worth noting that historically, Islam did spread by peaceful means. The Message of the Creator was introduced in Africa and southeast Asia by trading Muslims. People started converting to Islam in big numbers when the Muslims liberated them from the clutches of the cruel rulers, who used to tax then heavily and loot precious belongings from them whenever they wished. Today the largest Muslim country in the world is Indonesia. The military expeditions that led to the conquest of large swathes of territory in Europe and central Asia were all marked by tolerance of other creeds and faith. By Qais bin Zayed |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by lakesidepapa(m): 11:17pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
This Blood sucker Isl*m*c Terrorist should get off their ass from my beloved country.. By the name of Almighty Jesus christ, The Mission of this terrorist group in deutschland shall fail and May God expose them...! #PRAYFORGERMANY...#PRAYFOREUROPE
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God Bless Germany....! 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by osusuallstars: 11:26pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
mazimee: I pray the gunmen are not followers of Allah and his prophet. before nko? na dem dem. we know them, their trade mark and modus operandi. May God save Germany because they have fetch ants infested firewood hence lizard must be their guest. #syrian refeguees 3 Likes |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by ogaprime(m): 11:26pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
AlBillal: Its sad how you guys are so ignorant of the fact that these killers aint Muslims and its rather unfortunate that most Christians on this platform find joy in calling Islam and Allah all sorts without having the slightest knowledge of what Islam stands for.. I'll advice that you refrain from condenming that which you do not understand..for the ignorant ones here, i'd also like to say that Christianity has a long history of violence and at some point it was rated the world's most violent religion...sure some people here know about the CRUSADES, THE WITCH HUNTING, THE POST MEDIEVAL PERIOD, DEMOCIDE (14million people were killed by europeans roman catholicism) and a whole lot more... There are numerous verses in the Bible that support killing for various reasons castigating all Muslims and saying all sorts about Islam cos of the actions of a few unbelievers claiming to be True Muslims is rather Wrong and unacceptable.. I am a Muslim, and i've never for once insulted christianity... Sir, you are right, there were violence in the old testament but I will tell you this, any violence, violent crusade fights(like the ones you mentioned above) after the death of Jesus Christ is not of God. Jesus christ the son of God never held sword while here on earth but He came to redeem us, to save us, to heal us, to return us back to God, to lead us into spiritual era. That's the difference sir, that's the difference... 3 Likes |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by osusuallstars: 11:27pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
lakesidepapa: This Blood sucker Isl*m*c Terrorist should get off their ass from my beloved country.. By the name of Almighty Jesus christ, The Mission of this terrorist group in deutschland shall fail and May God expose them...! #PRAYFORGERMANY...#PRAYFOREUROPE
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God Bless Germany....! you dont know your origin 1 Like |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by osusuallstars: 11:29pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
wyse24: Judicial System of Islam: A third major area of misconceptions about Islam is that of the Islamic judicial system, which is considered unnecessarily harsh. This assumption is weak in two respects. First, it presupposes that human beings are more just and more merciful than the Creator, and therefore we can change the law. Second, it is often based on gross oversimplifications of Islamic law, such as saying: "all thieves get their hands cut off!" The Quran and Sunnah make it clear that the law of retaliation (or equality) governs us for murder and physical injury, but forgiveness is better as the following verses from the Quran show; Allah Says (what means): "The recompense for an injury is an injury equal thereto (in degree): but if a person forgives and makes reconciliation, his reward is due from Allah: for (Allah) loves not those who do wrong. But indeed if any do help and defend themselves after a wrong (done) to them, against such there is no cause of blame. The blame is only against those who oppress men and insolently transgress beyond bounds through the land, defying right and justice: for such there will be a grievous penalty. And whoever is patient and forgiving, these most surely are actions due to courage." [Quran 42:40-43] The Creator ordained the law of retaliation for us, knowing full well that we might question it. In many non-Muslim societies today, there are ongoing debates about the death penalty. In Islam, this discussion is moot: The Creator has decided the matter for us. He has however given us an interesting verse in the Quran, which advises to consider the matter carefully if we want to understand it; the verse says (which means): "And there is life for you in (the law of) retaliation, O people of understanding, that you may guard yourselves." [Quran 2:179] Most people are also unaware of the stringent conditions, which must be met for the law of retaliation to be applicable. The Sunnah is full of examples of the Messenger of Allah showing us when the law's preconditions were fulfilled. For example, a thief is only liable to lose his or her hand if the stolen item exceeds a certain value, and if it is proven that the item was taken from its normal resting place. Stealing food is not punishable by the loss of one's hand, and other items are exempt as well. This is just an example of how carefully the law is applied in Islam. Moreover, it must be clarified that penalties in Islam are meant to establish peace and security for the society. The Sword of Islam: Finally, another reason advanced for this prevalent misconception is that Islam `spread by the sword'. It should be clear by now that we must always distinguish between the Quran and Sunnah and the Muslims, when it comes to determining what the Creator has asked of us. Allah has stated clearly in the Quran (which means): "There is no compulsion in religion; truly the right way has become clearly distinct from error; therefore, whoever rejects Satan (and what he calls to) and believes in Allah, he indeed has laid hold on the firmest handhold, which shall not break off, and Allah is Hearing, Knowing." [Quran 2:256] Hence, it is impossible to accept Islam under duress. Even if misguided Muslims were to try to `force' Islam somehow on others, based on the previous verse, it would not be accepted by the Creator. Historical arguments that try to demonstrate that Muslims did not `convert others by force' are actually secondary to the argument given above. However, it is worth noting that historically, Islam did spread by peaceful means. The Message of the Creator was introduced in Africa and southeast Asia by trading Muslims. People started converting to Islam in big numbers when the Muslims liberated them from the clutches of the cruel rulers, who used to tax then heavily and loot precious belongings from them whenever they wished. Today the largest Muslim country in the world is Indonesia. The military expeditions that led to the conquest of large swathes of territory in Europe and central Asia were all marked by tolerance of other creeds and faith. By Qais bin Zayed guilty conscience 3 Likes |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by masseratti: 11:32pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
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Ur analysis dey misplaced, and it shows how shallow ur mind/thinking is?! How can u use a Quran to. Eat popcorn, or draw an image of Muhammad when u know the people practicing the religion won't like it? u dey intentionally look for trouble be dat now!! Also Islam defends its religion, and naso christians no dey defend dem religion...na Christian like u dey attend the "Nights Of A Thousand Laughs" where various comedians like Akpors, Basket mouth, Gordons etc, perfoms. And for those familiar with their jokes and comedies, the Church and the pastors and even Jesus Peace be on him...are usually the play toy and target (of course they know the backlash if they should involve Islaam). They joke to blackmail Jesus, while the audience laugh uncontrollably.All this in the name of, "You can't fight for God".?!? May God guide u aright guy! Take a chill pill and think for a second, should my head be cut of if i find a piece of Quran written in catonese and i had no knowledge of it and use it to wipe my ass? we all pray God/Allah should guide us. All the people you mentioned the comediens are created by God/Allah its not in my place if i cannot create a life to destroy it, i rather preach, persuade them, pray for them to change their ways, give them opportunity to repent, rather than cut their heads off or kill them, it is not in our place to defend our religion with killings, monarchs of old claim divine rule and leadership to fight Crusades and Jihads, from Kings, Emperors, Pope, Sheikhs, Sultans, Caliphs, Amir, Emir all they did was to use God's Allah's name to expand their territories, their wealths, raises emotions in the people and turn them into army to defend their religion, what do you think Isis and boko haram think they are doing? attacks? no my friend they are defending their religion, just the same way you will go amok if someone comes up with a picture of Mohammed. 3 Likes 1 Share |